I've voted Britonnia vs vampire counts now,but i would enjoy also skaven vs lizardmen(or Britonnia) or beastmen vs wood elves(but three elven races are a bit too much...).
I would take either Skaven or Lizard men, but they would both be destruction... Maybe Brit versus skaven...
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Lizardmen would NOT be destruction. Not even close.
Indeed. For those not familiar with Warhammer Lore:
Lizardmen are pretty much the only really Good Race. In fact, because they are so good, they wouldn't even really fit with the rest of the Order guys.
But a Beasty Pairing, Lizardmen vs. Skaven sounds too good not to have it
Lizardmen are kindo far away from the now existing races though. I'm not sure where skaven can be found (except that they can be found everywhere and have they're tunnels etc) since they never really interested me much.
Lizardmen are kindo far away from the now existing races though. I'm not sure where skaven can be found (except that they can be found everywhere and have they're tunnels etc) since they never really interested me much.
Well I'm by no means a Lore buff either, as I only started picking up Lore info from WAR Forums, but Lustria, where the Lizardmen are located sounds like a good Expansion-place, don't you think?
I mean you got Mountains, Northlands, and...I dunno, Forest? Whereever High Elves live in, along with Wastelands.
The Jungles of Lustria sounds like a good additional Landscape, and I think Skaven have dug tunnels beneath the whole world pretty much, so I don't think it would be difficult to Lore-place them in a Conflict with the Lizardmen in Lustria.
Destruction could use the Skaven TUnnels to travel there, Order could use Portals I believe the Lizardmen have.
There was not long ago whole lustria campaing in tabletop game centered on lizardmens and skaven "plaguebearer" clan. As an expansion I would like to see Brettonnians (I play them in tabletop game) in order side of cource (going to shoot anyone who says 2 humans "race" suck) fighting againt Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, Skaven or Beastmen faction of Chaos. I dont think that they are going to introduce Cathay or Araby since they dont have miniatures to support them. Unlease GW launces them in near future. I hope not since I WANT MY 7th EDITION BRETTONIAN ARMYBOOK NOW!!! It is btw hard to imagine that narsistic Vampires would ally with current factions of Destruction nor Tomb Kings so Bretonnia vs Beastmen or Skaven plix.
Originally posted by mcharj11 The movie 300 was supposed to be based on a true event but they mixed too much US liberty/freedom crap into it and the spartans ran around and shouted HOOAH! like US marines ect. In reality the Spartans couldn't care less about freedom, infact they had an entire nation of people asslaves to do all their work for them. This allowed Spartans to be only soldiers, they could train all the time because there was nothing else for them to do and that is why they were so good. Sorry for the rant but i don't like seeing true events being made into movies and being made really corny and cheesy with the whole US freedom force thing. A couple of examples, 300 and Braveheart.
I dont think it was that bad in Braveheart, but anyways, this isnt the forum for it
tomb kings vs araby - tomb kings, seem a little "samey" all will be mummies that do different things, doubt there will be another human race in first exp
skaven vs lizardmen - Most Likely
cathay vs orge kingdom - Cathay See Araby, Ogres too big to be a player class straight away (esp with blocking)
khorne vs kislev - Khorne has been said no to already as its a WARRIOR race, no magic, Kislev see Araby.
wood elf vs beastmen - Possible but "another Elf race" but the beastmen seem likely.
brittonia vs vampire counts - Brets See Araby and Vamp Counts seem over powered as prev person said.
so I guess id like to see Skaven vs Slann as I bloody detest Skaven and would like to kick 3 shits outta them!
actually the lizardmen are on the side of order... they dont like it when the empire or anyone else comes and steals there stuff (lots of gold) but they would be the most likly to allie themselves against chaos and all that since the old ones made them and chaos is there enemy.
well araby pretty cool you know there bunch of persians lol, makes a good 300 and cathay is bunch of samuri hehe with elemental mages hehe
Actually Arabs and Persians are different tribes, Araby is where Crusades and holy wars took places so i would go with Bretonnia vs Araby witha crusade as the reason.
The movie 300 was supposed to be based on a true event but they mixed too much US liberty/freedom crap into it and the spartans ran around and shouted HOOAH! like US marines ect. In reality the Spartans couldn't care less about freedom, infact they had an entire nation of people asslaves to do all their work for them. This allowed Spartans to be only soldiers, they could train all the time because there was nothing else for them to do and that is why they were so good. Sorry for the rant but i don't like seeing true events being made into movies and being made really corny and cheesy with the whole US freedom force thing. A couple of examples, 300 and Braveheart.
I voted Brets vs. VC and the reason is 1. I want Vampires, and no I don't even remotely think they would be too "Overpowering" because there are Vampire Thralls, which although are much stronger than the human heroes, so are Chaos Chosen, but that doesn't seem to stop them from making the Chosen so why not? The classes would be interresting, perhaps different bloodlines? The Blood Dragon (Tank), the Necrarch (mage), The Lahmia (or Strigoi) (Offensive), and the Von Carstein (Combination) 2. The reason is Brets would be nice to see in the form of having 4 classes; the Paladin, the Damsel, the Pilgrim, and the Man-at-Arms, maybe?
Off topic, but I can't help but reply, it's hard pressed to say that 300 was propaganda for the "US freedom force thing." and I know I'm quoting two different posters. Although I somewhat agree with the above post about how the Spartans enslaved people to do their everyday work so they could become better fighters. I have to disagree with the "...US liberty/freedom crap...." The fact was the Persians were on their way to destroy Greece, enslave their women into concubines, and kill the men. I'd have to say that justifies fighting for freedom, reguardless of how you want to interpret it to some kind of political meaning reflecting today's situations. It's pretty easy to find what you want in history and say it's political rehtoric because it somehow reflects what one party or another supports.
Second, 300 was based on a comic book, it's pretty hard to place real historical events into entertainment and draw movie goers. There are plenty of examples; Alexander, Pearl Harbor, Kingdom of Heaven, Enemy at the Gate,... I could continue but why? None of these movies accurately portrayed the real life events or even the characters they portrayed. It's Hollywood, not History channel.
It would actually be more appropriate to pair Brets with Tomb Kings in my honest opinion, because the crusaders vs. the undead Arabians would fit more closely than Brets vs. the Vampire Counts since most of the VC hide within the confines of the Empire, mostly.
Not to mention that Araby would not ally themselves with the Empire, EVER. The Empire (along with the Brets) and Araby are always waging wars against each other.
I don't think that they should use the Men-at-arms as a class since they are the worst human unit in the game and even with balancing and stuff it'd be pretty damn weird if they could hold their own against a chosen of chaos for even one second.
Originally posted by Imrahill There was not long ago whole lustria campaing in tabletop game centered on lizardmens and skaven "plaguebearer" clan. As an expansion I would like to see Brettonnians (I play them in tabletop game) in order side of cource (going to shoot anyone who says 2 humans "race" suck) fighting againt Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, Skaven or Beastmen faction of Chaos. I dont think that they are going to introduce Cathay or Araby since they dont have miniatures to support them. Unlease GW launces them in near future. I hope not since I WANT MY 7th EDITION BRETTONIAN ARMYBOOK NOW!!! It is btw hard to imagine that narsistic Vampires would ally with current factions of Destruction nor Tomb Kings so Bretonnia vs Beastmen or Skaven plix.
The Tombs Kings are about as evil as Lizardmen and Wood Elves. That is to say they would normally kill off any intruders who enter their domain but so would the Lizardmen and Wood Elves. In fact the Tomb Kings protect the Numa people from any invading armies. The Numaians are their direct decedents of the Tomb Kings. Basically people who were not within range of Nagash's killer AOE, WTFPWNAGE, turn everyone undead spell.
Of course Tomb kings are natural enemies of the Vampire Counts because after all they were brought back to life by Nagash who also created the first vampires. All Vampires owe allegiance to Nagash and thus the Vampire Counts vs Tomb King scenario is most likely to happen IMHO.
As others have noted with Brets, (or any other human nation) they will not make it because it would detract the spotlight placed on The Empire itself. Wood Elves would probably make it IMHO because they are just as culturally different from High Elves as Dark Elves are to High Elves. This would also allow Beastmen to become a playable faction in the game because Wood Elves are always fighting against them.
Of course the obvious next expansion race IMHO would more then likely be Skaven vs Lizardmen. This combo has more going for it then Wood Elves vs Beastmen and much more then Tomb Kings vs Vampire Counts.
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tomb kings vs araby - tomb kings, seem a little "samey" all will be mummies that do different things, doubt there will be another human race in first exp
skaven vs lizardmen - Most Likely
cathay vs orge kingdom - Cathay See Araby, Ogres too big to be a player class straight away (esp with blocking)
khorne vs kislev - Khorne has been said no to already as its a WARRIOR race, no magic, Kislev see Araby.
wood elf vs beastmen - Possible but "another Elf race" but the beastmen seem likely.
brittonia vs vampire counts - Brets See Araby and Vamp Counts seem over powered as prev person said.
so I guess id like to see Skaven vs Slann as I bloody detest Skaven and would like to kick 3 shits outta them!
It is likely to be Wood Elves and Beastman.
"Another elf race" = less work, = pleasing for the peoples so they can focus on what matter, animations (haha still think they can't do Wardancers properly, noobs devs, this is a challenge!) and improving the game.
Beastmans are definitely more needed then anything else. What is missing the most atm in WAR...the beastman are missing badly...and the Skaven. Yet, the Skavens is a hiding race...while the Beastman, they run up front...so Beastmen. Beastmen are Chaos, there are no justification, no need to explain anything, they are naturally with Chaos...
What does the players want: Elves.
EQ most played race: Wood Elves.
EQ second most played race: Dark Elves.
EQ third most played race: High Elves.
What is WAR missing? Wood Elves.
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Originally posted by Imrahill I would like to see Bretonians vs Beastmen. Brettonian classes could be something like: Paladin = tank (They are not your regular WoW paladins but kick ass fighters that beat crap out of enemies of bretonia and lady) Questing Knight = melee DPS (they wield two-handed sword this could make up lack of Greatsword class in Empire) Damsels of the Lady = caster/healer (female only class study for some lore why) Yeoman = Ranged DPS (Yeomen are the most privelaged of the peasant rabble. They could be armed with longsbows)
Compare Brettonia with Empire there is much difference as HE vs WE.
1.) They would detract from the Empire being the main focus for the human race in the game.
2.) Their religion is being manipulated by the High Elves according to lore.
3.) They are not as popular as Skaven vs Lizardmen. More people would rather see Skaven vs Lizardmen. Hell Chaos Dwarfs vs Tomb Kings would be more exciting.
4.) Bret's aren't iconic enough in the Warhammer world IMHO. Mythic is going for iconic races that stand out.
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I really like the medieval culture so it would have to be brets vs vamps! plus the bretonnians have a perfect female only class...
uk.games-workshop.com/bretonnia/miniature-gallery/4/
I would take either Skaven or Lizard men, but they would both be destruction... Maybe Brit versus skaven...
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Its abit early to be asking for expansions, the game isnt even OUT yet..
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Vampire Counts are a weeee bit overpowered, wouldn't you think? And their Slaves are just that, mindless Slaves.
With a bit of Lore bending it could work of course, but undead vs. knights doesn't sound as special as Lizardmen against freaky Ratmen
Skaven ftw!
well araby pretty cool you know there bunch of persians lol, makes a good 300 and cathay is bunch of samuri hehe with elemental mages hehe
I've voted Britonnia vs vampire counts now,but i would enjoy also skaven vs lizardmen(or Britonnia) or beastmen vs wood elves(but three elven races are a bit too much...).
Yeah it is quite annoing that they are using history that is not even their own as propaganda...
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Lizardmen would NOT be destruction. Not even close.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Lizardmen would NOT be destruction. Not even close.
Indeed. For those not familiar with Warhammer Lore:
Lizardmen are pretty much the only really Good Race. In fact, because they are so good, they wouldn't even really fit with the rest of the Order guys.
But a Beasty Pairing, Lizardmen vs. Skaven sounds too good not to have it
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Lizardmen would NOT be destruction. Not even close.
Indeed. For those not familiar with Warhammer Lore:
Lizardmen are pretty much the only really Good Race. In fact, because they are so good, they wouldn't even really fit with the rest of the Order guys.
But a Beasty Pairing, Lizardmen vs. Skaven sounds too good not to have it
Lizardmen are kindo far away from the now existing races though. I'm not sure where skaven can be found (except that they can be found everywhere and have they're tunnels etc) since they never really interested me much.
Well I'm by no means a Lore buff either, as I only started picking up Lore info from WAR Forums, but Lustria, where the Lizardmen are located sounds like a good Expansion-place, don't you think?
I mean you got Mountains, Northlands, and...I dunno, Forest? Whereever High Elves live in, along with Wastelands.
The Jungles of Lustria sounds like a good additional Landscape, and I think Skaven have dug tunnels beneath the whole world pretty much, so I don't think it would be difficult to Lore-place them in a Conflict with the Lizardmen in Lustria.
Destruction could use the Skaven TUnnels to travel there, Order could use Portals I believe the Lizardmen have.
There was not long ago whole lustria campaing in tabletop game centered on lizardmens and skaven "plaguebearer" clan. As an expansion I would like to see Brettonnians (I play them in tabletop game) in order side of cource (going to shoot anyone who says 2 humans "race" suck) fighting againt Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings, Skaven or Beastmen faction of Chaos. I dont think that they are going to introduce Cathay or Araby since they dont have miniatures to support them. Unlease GW launces them in near future. I hope not since I WANT MY 7th EDITION BRETTONIAN ARMYBOOK NOW!!! It is btw hard to imagine that narsistic Vampires would ally with current factions of Destruction nor Tomb Kings so Bretonnia vs Beastmen or Skaven plix.
I want Chaos Dwarfs!!!!!
I know that they would only do this if GW got in gear to resurrect this poor neglected army, Pair them against the Ogres as nothing else would fit.
I dont think it was that bad in Braveheart, but anyways, this isnt the forum for it
Wood elves with their wardancers for sure...(haha, Mythic doesn't have the skill to make that)
Bestman are cool, for the bloodbawl player in me!
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I think its entirely to early to even try to guess about an expansion...this thread makes me want to die haha.
I find it kinda funny, I find it kinda sad, The dreams in which I'm dieing are the best I've ever had.
so I guess id like to see Skaven vs Slann as I bloody detest Skaven and would like to kick 3 shits outta them!
actually the lizardmen are on the side of order... they dont like it when the empire or anyone else comes and steals there stuff (lots of gold) but they would be the most likly to allie themselves against chaos and all that since the old ones made them and chaos is there enemy.
Actually Arabs and Persians are different tribes, Araby is where Crusades and holy wars took places so i would go with Bretonnia vs Araby witha crusade as the reason.
The movie 300 was supposed to be based on a true event but they mixed too much US liberty/freedom crap into it and the spartans ran around and shouted HOOAH! like US marines ect. In reality the Spartans couldn't care less about freedom, infact they had an entire nation of people asslaves to do all their work for them. This allowed Spartans to be only soldiers, they could train all the time because there was nothing else for them to do and that is why they were so good. Sorry for the rant but i don't like seeing true events being made into movies and being made really corny and cheesy with the whole US freedom force thing. A couple of examples, 300 and Braveheart.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________I voted Brets vs. VC and the reason is 1. I want Vampires, and no I don't even remotely think they would be too "Overpowering" because there are Vampire Thralls, which although are much stronger than the human heroes, so are Chaos Chosen, but that doesn't seem to stop them from making the Chosen so why not? The classes would be interresting, perhaps different bloodlines? The Blood Dragon (Tank), the Necrarch (mage), The Lahmia (or Strigoi) (Offensive), and the Von Carstein (Combination) 2. The reason is Brets would be nice to see in the form of having 4 classes; the Paladin, the Damsel, the Pilgrim, and the Man-at-Arms, maybe?
Off topic, but I can't help but reply, it's hard pressed to say that 300 was propaganda for the "US freedom force thing." and I know I'm quoting two different posters. Although I somewhat agree with the above post about how the Spartans enslaved people to do their everyday work so they could become better fighters. I have to disagree with the "...US liberty/freedom crap...." The fact was the Persians were on their way to destroy Greece, enslave their women into concubines, and kill the men. I'd have to say that justifies fighting for freedom, reguardless of how you want to interpret it to some kind of political meaning reflecting today's situations. It's pretty easy to find what you want in history and say it's political rehtoric because it somehow reflects what one party or another supports.
Second, 300 was based on a comic book, it's pretty hard to place real historical events into entertainment and draw movie goers. There are plenty of examples; Alexander, Pearl Harbor, Kingdom of Heaven, Enemy at the Gate,... I could continue but why? None of these movies accurately portrayed the real life events or even the characters they portrayed. It's Hollywood, not History channel.
After I posted I thought of something,
It would actually be more appropriate to pair Brets with Tomb Kings in my honest opinion, because the crusaders vs. the undead Arabians would fit more closely than Brets vs. the Vampire Counts since most of the VC hide within the confines of the Empire, mostly.
Not to mention that Araby would not ally themselves with the Empire, EVER. The Empire (along with the Brets) and Araby are always waging wars against each other.
I don't think that they should use the Men-at-arms as a class since they are the worst human unit in the game and even with balancing and stuff it'd be pretty damn weird if they could hold their own against a chosen of chaos for even one second.
The Tombs Kings are about as evil as Lizardmen and Wood Elves. That is to say they would normally kill off any intruders who enter their domain but so would the Lizardmen and Wood Elves. In fact the Tomb Kings protect the Numa people from any invading armies. The Numaians are their direct decedents of the Tomb Kings. Basically people who were not within range of Nagash's killer AOE, WTFPWNAGE, turn everyone undead spell.
Of course Tomb kings are natural enemies of the Vampire Counts because after all they were brought back to life by Nagash who also created the first vampires. All Vampires owe allegiance to Nagash and thus the Vampire Counts vs Tomb King scenario is most likely to happen IMHO.
As others have noted with Brets, (or any other human nation) they will not make it because it would detract the spotlight placed on The Empire itself. Wood Elves would probably make it IMHO because they are just as culturally different from High Elves as Dark Elves are to High Elves. This would also allow Beastmen to become a playable faction in the game because Wood Elves are always fighting against them.
Of course the obvious next expansion race IMHO would more then likely be Skaven vs Lizardmen. This combo has more going for it then Wood Elves vs Beastmen and much more then Tomb Kings vs Vampire Counts.
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"Another elf race" = less work, = pleasing for the peoples so they can focus on what matter, animations (haha still think they can't do Wardancers properly, noobs devs, this is a challenge!) and improving the game.
Beastmans are definitely more needed then anything else. What is missing the most atm in WAR...the beastman are missing badly...and the Skaven. Yet, the Skavens is a hiding race...while the Beastman, they run up front...so Beastmen. Beastmen are Chaos, there are no justification, no need to explain anything, they are naturally with Chaos...
What does the players want: Elves.
EQ most played race: Wood Elves.
EQ second most played race: Dark Elves.
EQ third most played race: High Elves.
What is WAR missing? Wood Elves.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I would like to see Bretonians vs Beastmen.
Brettonian classes could be something like:
Paladin = tank (They are not your regular WoW paladins but kick ass fighters that beat crap out of enemies of bretonia and lady)
Questing Knight = melee DPS (they wield two-handed sword this could make up lack of Greatsword class in Empire)
Damsels of the Lady = caster/healer (female only class study for some lore why)
Yeoman = Ranged DPS (Yeomen are the most privelaged of the peasant rabble. They could be armed with longsbows)
Compare Brettonia with Empire there is much difference as HE vs WE.
1.) They would detract from the Empire being the main focus for the human race in the game.
2.) Their religion is being manipulated by the High Elves according to lore.
3.) They are not as popular as Skaven vs Lizardmen. More people would rather see Skaven vs Lizardmen. Hell Chaos Dwarfs vs Tomb Kings would be more exciting.
4.) Bret's aren't iconic enough in the Warhammer world IMHO. Mythic is going for iconic races that stand out.
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