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Child abuse secondary to Video game addiction..
SWGLover
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Words escape me. I hope these crappy excuses for piss-poor parents fry.
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The real problem is that this turns out really bad for the people that say there's no such thing as an addiction to video games.
If you think that it's an actual addiction (which normally is something that involves an actual chemical component and a biological need) you can just go on and say ban videogames.
However, if you're on the side of the people that say there is in fact no addiction, these people have made a (albeit maybe subconscious) decision to let their child starve in favor of having fun.
Problem here is, people are afraid to think that. Either they can't accept it due to their religion, or they're too stuck up to go forth and say how horrible these people (and thus, humans in general) are capable of being.
So the blame will simply fall on the video game addiction, and result in even more blame being put on video games for whatever evil exists in this world, because denying the existence of said addiction would lead to a most inconvenient realization about human nature.
Not another "The mom put her baby in the microwave, because it wouldn't stop crying while she was on a raid" thread.
Let me post my view - this case is 100% pure bad parenting by two sub-humans.
"Video game addiction" has zip to do with this case, but the drive-by media will play up that stupid angle, of course.
I should think, you will begin to see more of these types of news stories, sadly.
The people mentioned on the OP's cross-thread may very well have been meth uses rather than gamers,couldn't they? But, alas it was D & D mentioned in the news story rather than a drug habit. I agree with the second person making their post. It may very well be that "knee-jerk" reaction initially will be to blame the online video gaming rather than the individuals here.
It makes us all think seriously about our own real lives versus our gaming behavior, I should think. Maybe we should push back occassionally and look at ourselves in the mirror, as it were, especially if we have family responsibilities. Gamers, especially those of us adult gamers need to think clearly here. Take a stand to defend our rights to play games, but NEVER lose sight of our real life responsibilities. Like alcohol, take in smaller quantities. Do not allow the game to engulf you to the point you lose vision of the real world.
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon
They may have been playing online games, but I seriously doubt they were so enthralled that they stopped caring for the world. The problem is the are worthless people. They would have neglected their children to watch grass grow. Authorities are probably overreacting trying to describe why parents would do this. No one will ever know why parents choose to abuse their own children. Why do people beat and kill their singificant other? It can't be explained as easily as online addiction.
Seriously,the AMA just had a conference on this topic.There's to many with to much involved for them to make a decision.If they make on-line addiction an official medical condition.Then Insurance companies and employers may have to pay for treatment,or game companies may be held liable.
howd they even have a kid if they were addicted to video games?
this is why i dont like games like wow and ff11. they require so much time you have to get into it to get anything done. this is why i like gw because its easy to level up and with no monthly fee you arent forced to get your moneys worth. you can play it when you want for how long you want.
im bein serious here. if you find yourself to where you wont go out with your friends somewhere because you want to play a game please stop playing for awhile. if you cant tell someone to force you not to play or break your computer anything thatll help you. like these parents you might be hurting other people by your addiction. always realize this. it is just a game. it will NOT help you in life. all these games are meant to do is to entertain you for awhile. that is it.
Well just another example of the people trying to find an excuse for crap behavior.
Unfortunately a game is going to be touted as an excuse for people not taking their responsibilities seriously. That door is swinging farther and farther open, the twinkie defense.
Personal responsibility is sorely lacking, if the world would hold people responsible for their actions without resorting to excuses such as a video game / music / television / movie /books / the internet / twinkies made me do it. If you commit a crime no excuse should be valid to avoid punishment. I certainly hope those parents get the maximum penalty, and not in some country club prison with internet access.
just my 2 cents.
People are too quick to blame others or other things instead of taking responsibility for their actions. As mentioned, this was not a games fault, it was parents that should never have been nor had the right to be. They are bad people. The game is not.
Society as a whole tends to want to blame anything other than the person(s) that commit the act when something bad happens. It's a shame.
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I find the fact they are addiced to D&DO more shocking then the fact they neglected their children
yea seriously, that is just sad because D&D Online really sucked too.
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I'd say there aren't "addictive" things,
there are addicted people,
quite a huge difference....
Myself, I'm addicted to gaming, but I can't seem to get addicted to nicotine.
This is because I'M weak towards mental stimulation but not physical stimulation.
This doesn't make Games addictive and 'bad'
Heck people are also addicted to
Food
Sun
Alcohol
Exercise (and steroid in some cases)
Watching sports
Watching TV in general
Flowering
Studying
Music
Sex
Attention
Aaaaaand everything else you can think of..
So, well, those idiot parents should
Not have kids
A) Not have games
or
This does in no way affect ANYONE else other than them, as it's THEIR addicted personalities that matter and not WHAT they're addicted to
Played so far: 9Dragons, AO, AC, AC2, CoX, DAoC, DF, DnL, DR, DDO, Ent, EvE, EQ, EQ2, FoMK, FFO, Fury, GW, HG:L, HZ, L1, L2, M59, MU, NC1, NC2, PS, PT, R:O, RF:O, RYL, Ryzom, SL, SB, SW:G, TR, TCoS, MX:O, UO, VG, WAR, WoW...
It all sucked.
I categorically disbelieve anything Fox news spouts, until it has been reported by another station.
Haha, that's funny, yes DDO sucks. Shit, ATARI could view this as an advertising oppurtunity: NEGLECT YOUR CHILDREN! PLAY DDO!
I'm just kidding, but seriously, it's not the game. It's the parents. This story just saddens me, I have a little brother who has a little boy and a little girl and I can't imagine anything like that ever happening. It's just sad all around, I feel bad for the children, and I feel bad for the parents. It sounds like they didn't realize what they were doing, but who really knows. They face up to a maximum of 12 years in prison. That should give them some time to think about it.
I believe video game addiction can actually be a serious problem. I experienced it when I first started playing Star Wars Galaxies way back when (pre-cu). I quit my job, and played for 15-20 hours a day. I'd play all night, sleep when the servers went down, then get back on. I only left my house to go to the 24-hour gas station to refill on Mountain Dew, Hot Pockets, and cigarettes. It was REALLY bad. I had to quit obviously because my bills weren't getting paid... Haven't played a game that hardcore since, and I'm glad that's over LOL I do know some people who still play it and just don't do anything else. They freak when they can't play their game, it's a little sick
Here ya go Ikvar, the article comes up on the Windows Live Messenger Today page when you log in:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19766590/
Definition of addiction:
Compulsive physiological need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful.
It was therefore long thought that you couldn’t be an addict, unless an actual drug was involved. It is only “recent” that we have acknowledged things like gambling, extreme sport and some competitive gaming, releases the same drugs in your brain and body, which some addictive drugs also do.
There is no test to become a parent, its an unskilled labor job, most people who become parents are in NO way ready to be parents and they muddle along best they can, there is no golden book that tells you what to do and not do with your kids you just have to use common sense and remember how your folks brought you up.
There are a million books on bringing kids up all written by vern intellegent profs with out any children of there own, the same as almost all the self help book.
What is needed is a test for just plain old common sense, if the test comes up to low then you can't have children, hell I'm all for taking all the warning labels of everything and letting the problem solve itself, and yes if you need to be told not to put a plastic bag over your head then your one of them, or be told that the coffee if HOT when you first get it then you are one of them.
Yes games are addictive and it how you handle that defines your level of common sense, this couple should of never had a child, but due to having no common sense they did, I don't feel sorry for them, just for the child.
Not every addiction is a chemical based addiction. There are addictions that revolve around emotional and mental issues most of which stem from childhood issues that have not be dealt with at all.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
You should of listed the other definitions as well.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=addiction
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
Hey this is good news. Now that the kids are in foster care the parents have more time for gaming.
First of all I do think there is such a thing as Video Game addiction. Secondly there is also such a thing as bad parents. Both issues are involved.
You may say, if it wasn't games it would be something else, and I say from personal experience – not necessarily.
Compulsive physiological need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful.
It was therefore long thought that you couldn’t be an addict, unless an actual drug was involved. It is only “recent” that we have acknowledged things like gambling, extreme sport and some competitive gaming, releases the same drugs in your brain and body, which some addictive drugs also do.
You should of listed the other definitions as well.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=addiction
Why? they all say the same.
Not true, there are people with addictive personalities and there are addictive things. Cocaine and Nicotine are addictive. But these are chemicals rights? Well certain actives cause chemical reactions in certain people. So a non chemical addiction can actual be a chemical addiction.
It's not surprising really. The media always jump to conclusions about everything, just look at the Chris Benoit story. Immediately, they were blaming steroids without any proof. In this case, multiple reasons, instead of addiction, could be blamed on the parents. My advice is, don't take the media garbage too seriously, because it's not fair and balanced.
Suuuuure......, because the other channels certainly aren't biased, are they?
They are not all the same. Some definitions use a narrow "drugs/alcohol" example to describe addiction while others imply that an addiction is any act in which a person is complied to do over and over again such as gambling addiction.
One gives a narrow definition the others give a much broader definition that is not stereotypical of what people generally think is considered to be an addiction.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
Suuuuure......, because the other channels certainly aren't biased, are they?
They're all biased. I just get my news online but still don't believe the majority of garbage they report.