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airborne519airborne519 Member Posts: 542
in The Pub at MMORPG.COM

If you haven't seen this article, I thought I would share it.  Really sad that the kids suffered, however it's sad that it was due to Dungeons and Dragons Online..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289331,00.html

 

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  • BigMangoBigMango Member UncommonPosts: 1,821

    Yep, unfortunately that's what hardcore guilds are all about. 

     And they call themselves "3l33t".

     

     

  • PrebThorPrebThor Member UncommonPosts: 452

    Already posted here:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/139609

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Putting them in jail?

     

    The role of the law is to make society better.  I fail to understand how putting peoples who neglect life and their responsabilities will actually improve society.

     

    See, putting peoples who are DANGERous for other, society or the good functionning of it in jail; sure.  Might even codemn them to death.  However, to threat peoples who are evading life, neglecting it and their family, in jail?

     

    I really don't see how this will improve society in anyway.  It is obvious they don't deserve to keep their kids and they should be strip of parental rights and obligations...but put in jail?  You want them as contributing citizen and they represent no risk for society.

     

    Jail = for peoples who represent a risk to society, in a form or another.  If you strip them of their kids, they represents no risk whatsoever to anyone, anywhere, in anyform.  You can put them to hardwork, social programs or whatever...but jail?  Someone is been a dimwit somewhere!

     

    Jail is not to be considered a punishment, but a mean to ensure that society is better.  I fail to see how society will be better with them in jail.  They need to be put into social programs, so they work and developp ties or whatever...A killer, you remove him from society.  A thief, you remove him from society.  A madman which attack strangers, you remove him from society.  A guy who put a house on fire, you remove him from society.  Someone who isn't motivated and doesn't take his responsabilities...err you strip him of many rights (parentals among them) and you put them to hardwork, you don't remove them from society, in fact, removing them from society is the WORST thing you can do them; might as well just murder them.

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  • SidurisSiduris Member Posts: 50

    That's Americans for you, just shove em in the slammer, gotta solve something right? Good ole American logic

  • seabass2003seabass2003 Member Posts: 4,144
    Originally posted by Siduris


    That's Americans for you, just shove em in the slammer, gotta solve something right? Good ole American logic

    Until your country is perfect you might want to stay quiet.

    In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.

  • daelnordaelnor Member UncommonPosts: 1,556

    What I don't get is....how DDO???

    DDO was fun, but its design in and of itself is so that you can log on, play a couple dungeons and log off.

    I could see if it was a game with 12 hour raids and stuff..but DDO is so fast paced...and doesn't require you to raid for hours on end.

    D.

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  • daelnordaelnor Member UncommonPosts: 1,556

    Originally posted by Siduris
    That's Americans for you, just shove em in the slammer, gotta solve something right? Good ole American logic

    WTF does this have to do with what country someone lives in? Stop being a bigot. This is about people with mental issues, regardless of where they are from.

    D.

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  • Unknown
    Originally posted by seabass2003

    Originally posted by Siduris


    That's Americans for you, just shove em in the slammer, gotta solve something right? Good ole American logic

    Until your country is perfect you might want to stay quiet.

    I second that.

  • JaggaSpikesJaggaSpikes Member UncommonPosts: 430

    Anofalye: I couldn't agree more with you. well said

  • SidurisSiduris Member Posts: 50

    Didn't mean to offend, but you shouldn't try and slander my own country, rather disagree with me  using the word American's as a hole rather then the miss placed legal view behind the sentence. The thing is when i look at this kind of thing in  America its more like the people are proud of such judgment rather then  the opposite. 

  • JjaybrownJjaybrown Member Posts: 74

    It's sad, but I hear this all too often these days. I really don't get how someone could neglect a child like that. The parents should consider themselves lucky they didn't die.

    Oh well, now they'll be getting the best wake up call one can get - surprise rape!

  • COAgamerCOAgamer Member Posts: 190

    Originally posted by Anofalye


    Putting them in jail?
     
    The role of the law is to make society better.  I fail to understand how putting peoples who neglect life and their responsabilities will actually improve society.
     
    See, putting peoples who are DANGERous for other, society or the good functionning of it in jail; sure.  Might even codemn them to death.  However, to threat peoples who are evading life, neglecting it and their family, in jail?
     
    I really don't see how this will improve society in anyway.  It is obvious they don't deserve to keep their kids and they should be strip of parental rights and obligations...but put in jail?  You want them as contributing citizen and they represent no risk for society.
     
    Jail = for peoples who represent a risk to society, in a form or another.  If you strip them of their kids, they represents no risk whatsoever to anyone, anywhere, in anyform.  You can put them to hardwork, social programs or whatever...but jail?  Someone is been a dimwit somewhere!
     
    Jail is not to be considered a punishment, but a mean to ensure that society is better.  I fail to see how society will be better with them in jail.  They need to be put into social programs, so they work and developp ties or whatever...A killer, you remove him from society.  A thief, you remove him from society.  A madman which attack strangers, you remove him from society.  A guy who put a house on fire, you remove him from society.  Someone who isn't motivated and doesn't take his responsabilities...err you strip him of many rights (parentals among them) and you put them to hardwork, you don't remove them from society, in fact, removing them from society is the WORST thing you can do them; might as well just murder them.
    Well considering they almost killed their children becuase they couldnt stop playing video games, I would think that would make society better. What else are they sopose to do? Take there kids away? That means more time for video games. Stirp them of rights and put them to work? That kind of sounds like jail or maybe you mean something else...

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  • JetrpgJetrpg Member UncommonPosts: 2,347

     

    Originally posted by Anofalye


    Putting them in jail?
     
    The role of the law is to make society better.  I fail to understand how putting peoples who neglect life and their responsabilities will actually improve society.
     
    See, putting peoples who are DANGERous for other, society or the good functionning of it in jail; sure.  Might even codemn them to death.  However, to threat peoples who are evading life, neglecting it and their family, in jail?
     
    I really don't see how this will improve society in anyway.  It is obvious they don't deserve to keep their kids and they should be strip of parental rights and obligations...but put in jail?  You want them as contributing citizen and they represent no risk for society.
     
    Jail = for peoples who represent a risk to society, in a form or another.  If you strip them of their kids, they represents no risk whatsoever to anyone, anywhere, in anyform.  You can put them to hardwork, social programs or whatever...but jail?  Someone is been a dimwit somewhere!
     
    Jail is not to be considered a punishment, but a mean to ensure that society is better.  I fail to see how society will be better with them in jail.  They need to be put into social programs, so they work and developp ties or whatever...A killer, you remove him from society.  A thief, you remove him from society.  A madman which attack strangers, you remove him from society.  A guy who put a house on fire, you remove him from society.  Someone who isn't motivated and doesn't take his responsabilities...err you strip him of many rights (parentals among them) and you put them to hardwork, you don't remove them from society, in fact, removing them from society is the WORST thing you can do them; might as well just murder them.

    I have to agree, still out of jail they are on the government pay check (because they make no money, and tax the system ) They don't contribute anyway.

     

    What should be done is that they should not go to jail, their kids should be taken away (forever, none of this  we are giving you back to mommy so she can starve you again [5 times over]) , and finally the government should remove all federal aid to both of these people for 2-5 years, and anytime in the future where it is obvious that they are slacking off again.

    Oh yes it sounds bad but hey i don't want to pay for these people to be lazy ass, and i don't want them killing their kids, and i don't want to pay for them to be put into jail so we can let a rapist or murder out.

     

    Oh IR to the america hate, Australia has about one thing going for it better than the Us and that is their immigration laws. Which doesn't leave them that much more enlightened.

    "Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine

  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111

    Jail isn't the answer, that just costs taxpayers $20, 000 a year per inmate. They are not a danger to society.

     Clearly these two idiots should not be allowed to breed. Sterilize them. The kids have already been placed in foster care and will be put up for adoption.  Have a judge issue a court order that they can't own any pets either. Once sterilized they can play all the video games they want.

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    Originally posted by Samuraisword


    Jail isn't the answer, that just costs taxpayers $20, 000 a year per inmate. They are not a danger to society.
     Clearly these two idiots should not be allowed to breed. Sterilize them. The kids have already been placed in foster care and will be put up for adoption.  Have a judge issue a court order that they can't own any pets either. Once sterilized they can play all the video games they want.



    lmao and force them to play runescape and only runescape

    or put them on house arrest and make it so the only web page they can get to is runescape and they cant install or run anything else

    and then just to torture them give them the new dell xps m120  ( the one for $2999)

    now thats gamer hell

  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923
    Originally posted by seabass2003

    Originally posted by Siduris


    That's Americans for you, just shove em in the slammer, gotta solve something right? Good ole American logic

    Until your country is perfect you might want to stay quiet.

    Well that's the thing we are not perfect but we are pretty darn close to it

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  • deucalliondeucallion Member Posts: 183

    Originally posted by Siduris


    Didn't mean to offend, but you shouldn't try and slander my own country, rather disagree with me  using the word American's as a hole rather then the miss placed legal view behind the sentence. The thing is when i look at this kind of thing in  America its more like the people are proud of such judgment rather then  the opposite. 

      So you can criticize my country, but i can't criticize yours?  Didn't mean to offend?  Are you so think that you actually thought posting a comment like that wouldn't piss anyone off?  And you have the nerve to talk about judgement?  LOL, gimme a break.  The fact that your country is no better than any other not withstanding, there ARE multitudes of people here in America that are just as disgusted by this story as you are.  The fact that it happened in America means nothing.  You think tragedies like this don't happen in your own country?

  • SavvonSavvon Member Posts: 98

     

    Originally posted by Siduris


    That's Americans for you, just shove em in the slammer, gotta solve something right? Good ole American logic

    I have noticed on these forums that when people give their opinions about certain topics here that is not the same as the moderators, they get banned...

     

     

    and when ignorance, hate and personal attacks are all over these forums, nobody gets banned for it.

     

    /boggle

     

  • jjrenyjjreny Member Posts: 15

    classic shit

  • SidurisSiduris Member Posts: 50

    well.... i don't know what to say, you didn't really respond to what i said...... you just said things like this happens everywhere, and yes that is true, just look at Korea...  But back to the subject  at hand,  i don't blame America for this happening or American people, but why put them in jail? Then i read other posts about never giving back children and such... surely every one deserves a second chance, one that has to be earned. that's it from me, unless someone has some thing to say worth responding to.

  • ManmadegodManmadegod Member Posts: 501

    I am a bit more heavy handed, I say slaughter them. Clearly they do not appreciate life, so take it away.

  • ASmith84ASmith84 Member Posts: 979

    already been discussed.  if you cant stop playing a game then you need serious help.

  • khragkhrag Member Posts: 184

    Originally posted by Siduris


    surely every one deserves a second chance
    Yes, the innocent children are getting a second chance, the lousy ass parents deserve nothing! Why should we give them their children back or let them have more? So they can do the same again? Funny thing is, if either of them had touched their children inappropriatly, you wouldn't be saying they deserve a second chance (and most times that doesn't kill them)

     

    Also, I am a Canadian, and we have the habit of throwing everyone in jail too. It's not just American's, there are places all over the world where you can go to jail just for not agreeing with the government. So where as I am no US fanboi, I know prison is an outdated useless money loser all over the world, so why mouth off about one place.

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  • LiddokunLiddokun Member UncommonPosts: 1,665

    They were put in jail in order to enforce a kind of reform on them in the hopes of them becoming better citizens when they get out. Why do you think offenders are put in jail ? To have fun ? Inmates in jail do not live the happy carefree life... even tho they cost taxpayers $20,000 a year some are given jobs inside the jail in order to defray some of the cost as well as for punishment. Prisoners are given counsel as well as a regimented life style, they cannot play any games, can't eat whatever they wanted or have sex. I think the punishment suits the crime and this is what you call justice.

  • sirespersiresper Member Posts: 317
    Originally posted by liddokun


    They were put in jail in order to enforce a kind of reform on them in the hopes of them becoming better citizens when they get out. Why do you think offenders are put in jail ? To have fun ? Inmates in jail do not live the happy carefree life... even tho they cost taxpayers $20,000 a year some are given jobs inside the jail in order to defray some of the cost as well as for punishment. Prisoners are given counsel as well as a regimented life style, they cannot play any games, can't eat whatever they wanted or have sex. I think the punishment suits the crime and this is what you call justice.



    Oh they can have sex. Though its not really consentual if you get my drift.

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