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obviously not in the very near future, but what is everones oppinion on when WoW will finally die its inevitable death? i know WoW fanboys like to think it will be around forever, but every mmo fails one day. Will it be a sudden death brought on by an expansion which makes all the million hours you've farmed and raided for nothing ( TOA for Daoc), or by introducing a key feature which conflicts with the values of the game ( Trammel for UO) of do you guys think it will just slowly decay over the next 5 years from newly released games?
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Many players did like me. I guess that someday they will add so muchc rap that every mature players will leave and finaly the game will die by itself in like 6 years or so.
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I doubt Blizzard will radically change it. I tend to think that a radical change in technology (ie. A new form of internet) will be the thing that ends up killing WoW. Why? because it won't be all that much longer untill new technology that could replace the internet comes about.
If we remade the internet today by completely erasing it we could make it much more secure and everything better and faster. Sweden (I think it's Sweden) has made a new fibre optic internet connection that gets download speeds of 40gigabytes a second. It is extremely expensive and so far it is only be tested by certain people but it's there.
WoW has too many people to just die. New people are joining all the time, more than enough to fill up the void of people leaving. No, I do not like WoW but that is where it stands.
I think a slow and gradual decay will be the swan song of WoW, unless they make a bone headed mistake.
Nothing on the horizon is going to challenge them as most of the upcoming titles are pvp games that will have a rapid growth with a just as rapid decline as players grow sick of the problems associated with pvp ( think about it.....pvp servers in games are *always* the smallest population servers )
I quit WoW simply because PvE was boring and PvP was unbalanced. I'm looking forward to playing Fury.
I agree. I think they'll run out of ideas and people will eventually want something new.
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The problem i find though with a game so heavily embedded with super long raids and stuff is that an expansion is released with all these new items, as i said this is just like what happened for daoc, that make the old ones almost obsolete. So what does someone do that finally just got all these sweet items from farming for 100 hours only to find that he needs to farm another 200 hours just to get the bare minimum. This i believe could cause a problem in a future expansion in a game so pve and farming driven.
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To be honest, I doubt WoW will ever die. Sure it might eventually lose the majority of it's player base, but Blizzard will just merge servers if that becomes too much a problem. In the distant future I see WoW existing like EverQuest, Asheron's Call and Ultima Online, a loyal fan base will keep the game going enough to turn a profit.
As to possible ways they could lose their player base, I think they'd have to do something insanely stupid to drive them away in a short amount of time, but instead I think the departure will be a slow process as new games are released.
*shrug* just my thoughts.
It will eventually die because it will fall behind on the tech end. But if they make WoW2 at the right time it will continue to have players. Blizzard has done good things with the worldcraft series, and I think they can continue to do so. I currently play Wow although it is not the best MMO I have ever played or even the best out right now, but a group of my RL friends are playing it, and that is good enough for me. I don't think I will leave until I can convince my friends to follow, or until another game impresses me so much that I don't have time for WoW anymore.
What will kill WoW is Blizzard's characteristic laziness and their utter contempt for their playerbase. It took them two years to release their first expansion and haven't even announced details on the next. They have no plan to add more classes, despite player outcry. One of the Community Managers (I think it was Tseric, who is no longer there) said that new classes were not needed because they have the basic party occupations already covered. This indicates a real loss of creativity in the development teams. Blizzard developers have a notoriously short attention span and have a hard time staying on task unless Vivendi threatens them. WoW was rushed to release because of this. From what I saw during that time, the game was done months prior, but the release marketing had to be hastily put together to meet the deadline set by Vivendi. Why else would they stick nothing but a paperback book that had been out for months in their pre-sell boxes? Blizzard was too busy with their "Friends and Family" playing their game that they didn't care if it ever released as long as the checks kept coming.
Frankly, I think Blizzard's only remaining interest in World of Warcraft is cash. There's no creativity left. Look for more raid dungeons and useless trinkets, but nothing of any substance. So much potential wasted.
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WoW wont die for atleast a decade.
It has numeral expansions left in it, new classes alone would bring back thousands of players. However Blizzard continues to focus on high level raiding which doesnt cater to the entire WoW community. Provided this doesnt continue, this game will continue to rise for years to come. Theress plenty of content that can be added to this game in improvement, and the difference between Blizzard and other Developers is that Blizzard have the manpower and the desire to achieve that.
They could design an RVR system with keeps capturable by guilds with siege weapons. New classes, new leveling areas to go with new classes. New races, the Naga? Northrend? The Maelstrom?
There will come a point when the game has been over designed, much like EQ as it is today. But its member base will never dwindle to nothingness, it will linger on just as past MMO's have shown to do. The only difference is that no MMO can compare their subscriber base to WoW's, one can only assume that WoW when it starts to die will still have a degree of success when compared with todays MMO's.
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I'd imagine WoW's player base will dwindle slowly throughout the course of several expansions, as was the case with EQ and DAoC, with ups-and-downs and spikes in their player population. As MMORPGs and player tastes evolve over time, WoW, like any other game, will start to look tired and old-fashioned as technology and PC's capabilities increase and catch up with what the next generation of designers are now only imagining in their heads.
Think of how expansive the world seemed in the first MMORPG you ever played. Now try to imagine what it'll be like 5 or 10 years down the line. Or imagine a TRUELY seamless game world that satiated both sandbox players and people looking for a more linear game structure. And these possibilities are only based on current MMORPG conventions. Who knows what might be around the corner?
I think the more interesting question is, How long will Blizzard continue to be the dominant force in the industry? Their titles like Diablo and Starcraft retain a rabid fanbase even close to a decade after their respective releases. For all we know, 8 years down the line, Blizzard could release a WoW 2 that will succeed in capturing their current player base unlike how EQ2 initially turned off a big portion of original EQ players.
Yes wows player base could be cut in half, and it stil would dominate the mmo market. Games only die if they had a small player base to begin with in the first place, or they just manage to survive. With wows playerbase it wont be ending or dying which you want anytime soon.
If im correct though, the reason WoW has done so well is that it has appealed to millions of people who didnt even know what an mmo was, its not like 8 million people came from daoc and ac and eq to WoW. That being said, they are much more susceptible to new games being released since its not like they're veterans of mmos and know waht they like. If WoW is they're first game then they're likely to try a different mmo and leave WoW. just my oppinion
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Why do u care about the downfall of of wow so much?
You dont like the game your playing atm? or are the rest of the wow killing mmos even craper than wow?
They make a game the millions of people enjoy to play, that is what video games are for, for people to enjoy. This fact is just lost on alot of people on this site from a very very long time ago.
Oh, this is easy.
No game is going to be the "be all end all" of any other game. Looking through the history of MMO's, we dont see any population suddenly leaving the games all high and dry for another. Yes, there are big population sinks when a new game comes out, but not one game is going to be the "WoW killer."
WoW, like any other game, will slowly deteriorate in population as new games come out. We'll probably see a small dent when AoC comes out, but I can garuntee a larger exodus will happen once WAR comes out. But WoW will still have a huge population and it will slowly diminish as new games are released.
World of Warcraft will not die anytime soon, you are only fooling yourself if you think that it is going to happen. It will be around for years to come and there really is nothing you can say or do to change it. Of course it is going to loose subscriptions over time but that is bound to happen.
blizzard is afraid of changing wow... they watched swg attempt to clone them and crash/burn...
they have millions of consumers hooked up to the nipple, all they have to do is keep providing juice and they'll be content for years to come.
billions of easy dollars.
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Yes its a game, not life, if its not broken dont fix it.
Once any other mmo gets their share of the market then you can start dancing like vamps burning copies of wow. Well made and produced game. And if u even think war is touching wow u are going to be in for a very rude awakening. If u want to know more about war, PM me.
World of Warcraft is not going to fall for at least 5 more years.
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It shall slow down, young sire, but never die.
I should think that if the likes of WoW should vanish from the heart of gamers, then this format of gaming would go the same way. No, not this game young one. It shall remain strong and vibrant, but maybe just not as enormous as it once was. As the upcoming years looms with what I have called the bottlenecking of so many MMO's you shall see what I mean.
There are only truly a few classic MMO's out the Master Fensus. Many of the adventures that post after me shall tell you what they think, but I see that the original EverQuest, EQ 2, WoW, EVE, , and possibly the old DAoC, as well as Ryzome. Of this list you shall find those that have remained true all these years and shall continue on as long as there is that game with which to play, my young game master. Allow this king to age gracefully and bow humbly to the new prince of game yet ahead.
Give WoW it's certain due.. and thus seek other advantures over the horizone, impetuous one.
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What makes you think MMOs die one day. Presumably all things die one day, but what are you basing this on? EQ is still up and running. There are MUDs that have been going on for Light knows how long.
Unless you are talking about entropy or something, this isn't inevitable. We have nothing to base when or if or how MMOs die.
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"The bigger they are, they harder they fall."
I firmly believe that this big fall WILL happen with World of Warcraft.
Why? ..It has no real "staying" power.
People will leave. For boredom of end game. For other games. For real life. And when these people leave, so will their friends. And when the populations really die down, the gold farmers will also look for greener pastures.
I predict a HUGE server merger by next summer with WoW. I mean a server merger to about 1/3 of it's current number of servers. 60-70% of their servers here now will be "swooosh", gone by next summer.
From there, the game will continue a downward spiral in server populations and it will be all over the internet by that time that World of Warcraft is known for the biggest drop in players of any game in the shortest timespan ever.
Within 3 years max, I'd say Blizzard will pull the plug on this game and probably look for greener pastures themselves. They won't stick around for years and years for loyal fans simply because by then WoW will have such a negative image, they will see it better for them and their future to just pull the plug and take their insane profits elsewhere.
Actually... I predict either just before WoW has it's plug pulled or shortly after that Blizzard entertainment will be bought out by some other company and this change will alter Blizzard forever. Someone will buy them out in the next few years. Maybe it will be some damn big cell phone company who buys them out in an attempt to make HUGE online cell phone games themselves. Maybe it will be EA who buys them out in an attempt to try and monopolize the mmo market as much as possible (actually I can really see this happening quite easily with what EA did with the NFL and Madden video games.. and EA has the money to buy out such a big company such as Blizzard). Blizzard is all about the money and will not be able to resist the insane $$ offer thrown at them. And if it is EA that buys them out, maybe it will before WoW is dead, and EA will be sure as hell to screw up WoW beyond fixing and THAT will be it's real death. Heh. I dunno, but I just don't see WoW as being around forever, sorry guys.
- Zaxx
For better or worse, WoW probably won't die in the forseeable future. Games that break ground tend to stay alive well past the time their plug should have been pulled. Ultima Online was the first successful graphical MMO, and thus it still limps along to this day. Everquest followed with the first successful 3D MMO, and it capture the feel of the classic DikuMUD almost perfectly. Star Wars Galaxies broke ground with the most innovative crafting system to date, factional warfare, and player run cities, and even after the NGE travesty, it still putters along. EVE-Online gave us player controlled territory, a nearly player driven market, and player developed content being integrated into the developers' storyline. It's actually doing quite well and will probably continue to do so unless another big sci-fi game bumps it out of that niche. City of Heroes gave us instances, which almost every MMO has used since.
What has WoW given us? Polish and population. WoW handed us an amalgamation of the best traits from lots of other games, but they delivered it with so much more polish than other games to date, that it became an instant hit. It runs on low-spec systems and because of the cartoon-artwork, it looks as good there as on high-end systems. Because of the huge player base, it also raised the bar for other games. As Vanguard learned, post-WoW, games that launch with major bugs or unfinished content are no longer acceptable.
I enjoyed WoW for a year and a half. I'm bored of it now, and annoyed that Vanguard failed. *I* have no desire to return to WoW, but I know others who just keep making new characters in the hopes that something will keep them interested. If ever there were a time for a new game to launch, this is it. Unfortunately, other companies watched the Vanguard shipwreck and quickly pushed their release dates out 6 months. They realized that any game that wasn't polished out the door would share the same fate... and so we wait.
I hope it lands on anyone who still plays WoW, in fact I'd pay 15$ to see that.
/Bows with dignity..yet keeps a weather eye out for betrayal...
Sire, take a more careful look at this picture. A classic game does have "staying" power. A weak and unpopular game barely can make ends meet and carry on for 2 and half years.
I suppose it is with those of you that wish to see the entire MMO market come crashing down. You should be thankful at least for the likes of this great game and what it given to all the MMO developers out there.
I dare say that is NOT they that so rudely or with such malice look on such a historic game, rather they respect it, and challenge to do one better. Now, that's the true spirit here.
Give the old king his just dues, Master Zaxx. Allow the old master to go his own way and those that contnue to play and nice smile. As many classic games there will always be a strong number that understand it's design and purpose.
Over two years on top and looking at another strong showing next makes me smile at your comments, as well as all those that apparently do not understand the importance of what this game has brought to this genre.
Watch what happens over the next 14 to 16 months as the bottlenecking of all the upcomers dare and try to take the throne of World of Warcraft. /Grins wryly, only room for a couple, I predict...the rest shall fall...
Ah, well...time will tell, young master, we shall see, won't we... /nods..and winks..rubbing a grizzled chin...
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