Originally posted by fulmanfu -actualy it was originally intended to be add on for mir. -high lvl maps and mobs is what is new, i.e. add on -i wouldnt call the fact you can now throw wind balls and ice balls instead of just fire balls a whole new spell system. the fact is you will still be using the good old lightning bolt over and over.
After reading this I thought it would be good to clarify some points.
-It was intended to be an "add on" at first but since the developers ambitions were so high it would not of been possible to just have it as a patch. So they went ahead and redeveloped it as a game. Doing this allowed them to exceed the potential of mir2.
-The point about spells is also of interest. In mir3 mobs have different resistances to different types of magic, as I believe Vengi mentioned earlier. This means that although you could use the same spell eg.Tbolt against all mobs it wouldn't be the wisest thing to do. This is just one of the ways in which mir3 is more varied than mir2.
I would suggest that before anyone prejudges this game that they try out the open beta, afterall it will be free and if you don't like it, you don't have to play it
I have to agree with fulmanfu. Mir3 does look like an add on too Mir2. A few extra mobs {somebody said 150 but that seems way too high}, maps, spells etc but the basic gameplay is still the same. I don't see how anyone can argue differently.
I think the main reason people are excited about Mir3's release though is because a lot of people who quit Mir2 through boredom and bad service are going to give it a try. Its going to be a reunion of sorts. Although Mir2 is a very good game it was the community that made it great.
Mir was a gr8 game.....many are lookin 4ward to it
You may have played a private server but these are not the original and are totally different. Lvlin speeds are different....stats and not to mention the whole attitude when playing.
Looks are not everything many gamers wud take community spirit and gameplay n e day over these many new games that have ownage graphics and little else.
The game play of the new 3d games i have played are really boring. With no potion to regen. ur health and mp points. U have to fight and rest. Making lvling even more boring.
Lol @ all the people saying it's the same game. Simply because it has the same isometric perspective.
yet newsflash all the 3d games your playing really are the same they are all clones of each other, take linage2 I've never seen a more blatant EQ1 clone and EQ 1 still better lol.
What EI is, is a very similar game as similar as most of the current mmorpgs out there are to each other ie they look pretty similar. Well it does have enough gameplay and basic coding differences to make it a new game in my opinion at least as much as nearly every other mmorpg out there claims to be.
Go read the petition thread for a change in the industry the gentleman rightly claims the market is saturated with terrible cheap nasty clones, all graphics + bugs and no gameplay so frankly mir3 is a newer game in the style of mmorpgs (Despite being old lol) that are currently in trend.
So stop talking poo it looks like an addon when you completely change a games graphics (which they are you all just look at it and see 2d isometric and stop thinking there) and basicly program it from scratch just in a similar setting and style of the series its a new game.
And no one can accuse me of having tinted specs about this game lmao.
the current phase of alpha in the mmorpg freeword, they overhauled the graphics, and added a rideable spider pet for the altrog race to ride(among other things im sure).
you LoM guys need to go tell them to change the name to freeworld2, becasue unbeknownst to the devs there, they are working on a completely new game now.
p.s. i never said it looked like an add-on, i said it IS an add-on, becuase IT IS! christ this is like trying to teach my beagle table manners..
Originally posted by fulmanfu the current phase of alpha in the mmorpg freeword, they overhauled the graphics, and added a rideable spider pet for the altrog race to ride(among other things im sure). you LoM guys need to go tell them to change the name to freeworld2, becasue unbeknownst to the devs there, they are working on a completely new game now. p.s. i never said it looked like an add-on, i said it IS an add-on, becuase IT IS! christ this is like trying to teach my beagle table manners..
Hmmm Lets see... new engine, new areas, new spells, new control system but you call it a patch. Wake up and smell the roses. By your definition every game that brings out a sequel is just a patch.
Mir3 was first envisioned as a patch but then they decided to take it a step further.. new engine etc and at that point they decided that it should go it's separate ways. I doubt this will sink in because you come across as a very stubborn 'black is the same as white, because I say so' type of person. You keep saying that EQ2 is a new game compared to EQ1. That is the only thing you have said that makes sense. You cannot have it both ways. You tell me why EQ2 is a different game to EQ1 and also tell me why the same rules don't apply to LOM3.
Back your arguments up with fact instead of trolling for arguments.
Originally posted by fulmanfu the current phase of alpha in the mmorpg freeword, they overhauled the graphics, and added a rideable spider pet for the altrog race to ride(among other things im sure). you LoM guys need to go tell them to change the name to freeworld2, becasue unbeknownst to the devs there, they are working on a completely new game now. p.s. i never said it looked like an add-on, i said it IS an add-on, becuase IT IS! christ this is like trying to teach my beagle table manners..
Your Freeworld argument has no bearing on the case as it's still in development.
Mir2 in Korea has existed side my side with mir3 for quite a while now...Mir2 still has a large user base and is getting regular patches so it's development history is separate from Mir3.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
The question we all should be asking is "what is a patch"?
Well a patch is piece of software that either corrects the present code or grafts something on to it, in the case of a MMORPG that would be items, maps etc.
Mir3 is new code that is not compatible with mir2 therefore can not be classed as a patch. This is fact and can not be really be argued against in any logical manner.
Your second post basically said you had illegal server code in your possession
"i can put up a server for it tonight if i want" - fulmanfu
In the end you are using old knowledge and obsolete code to base your fragile arguments on.
Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
Originally posted by Vengi Your second post basically said you had illegal server code in your possession "i can put up a server for it tonight if i want" - fulmanfu In the end you are using old knowledge and obsolete code to base your fragile arguments on.
never said i would, never said i did. i just said i 'could' as could anyone with a half decent computer, becasue the files for it are readilly available for some reason.
Originally posted by Vengi In the end you are using old knowledge and obsolete code to base your fragile arguments on.
no, i am using commone sense to base my fragile arguments on. that and the fact that anyone who played mir2 and logs into mir3 for 30 seconds will say i am right(unless they are fanboi or just trying to sell the game, dishonestly mind you)
Originally posted by Fireburst Hmmm Lets see... new engine, new areas, new spells, new control system but you call it a patch. Wake up and smell the roses. By your definition every game that brings out a sequel is just a patch. Mir3 was first envisioned as a patch but then they decided to take it a step further.. new engine etc and at that point they decided that it should go it's separate ways. I doubt this will sink in because you come across as a very stubborn 'black is the same as white, because I say so' type of person. You keep saying that EQ2 is a new game compared to EQ1. That is the only thing you have said that makes sense. You cannot have it both ways. You tell me why EQ2 is a different game to EQ1 and also tell me why the same rules don't apply to LOM3. Back your arguments up with fact instead of trolling for arguments.
ok fireburst, where are your facts to back up your arguments? cant have it both ways. hey, maybe the 'new' engine and control system is real, who knows, but it plays exactly like mir2 , so if it is new, no wonder the 'whole new game' didnt go anywhere the first go round, i guess the devs of it just got disheartened when they realized it was the same exact thing, exept the horses and desert.
like i said, anyone who played mir2 and logs into mir 3 will see the truth, no matter how hard you fanbois try to sell it, eventually people will log in (or just take a quick look at both 'games' screenshots and map pages')
It's pretty clear now you set out from the beginning just to bash mir3, you have ignored all arguments against your ideas and have resorted to the "fanboi" slur.
Sure if you don't look alittle deeper (say like 30 seconds which seems obviously to be fulmanfu's attention span) it will seem very like mir2, which is a Very good thing as Mir2 has a great system, I aways said the difference wasn't just cosmetic, even so it's pretty clear that the graphics are much better.
I think this is really my last post on this topic as I've stated my case pretty clearly (and I don't want to get into a degrading flamming match )
In the end Fulmanfu I just love Mir3 and you asked a question which I was happy to answer (you made the topic and now you accuse me of trying to sell it!!), if you do not want to listen to me, thats your right but I'm not going to waste my time, bashing my head against a brick wall.
In the end if you liked mir2 you'll love Mir3, and when you play it you'll know the truth.
If you (the reader) have never played Mir2 then I say "try out the beta of Mir3 when it comes out as it will rock!!"
like i said, anyone who played mir2 and logs into mir 3 will see the truth, no matter how hard you fanbois try to sell it, eventually people will log in (or just take a quick look at both 'games' screenshots and map pages')
If you had tried out Mir3 when it was in beta in Korea you would know well it plays like a completely different game. You rant on matters you know nothing of. You are obviously a ex Mir2 player with a axe to grind.
Regarding the facts in regards the new engine. A fool can see it's a completely different game engine. The fact that it is 16 bit as opposed to Mir2's 8 bit engine should sink into even your think skin.
As I said, why don't you pick a subject to troll on which you have a little knowledge about.
one of the qgo team (at least 1, i dont know the rest socially speaking) used to run a private server
biosphere, savage eden, and lagheim are all the same game, run by different companies
i already said i enjoy the game anyway, i dont have an axe to grind. im just saying the truth, i will be in the closed beta, i will be in when/if it releases as well.
you can argue till your head pops off, but the bottom line, i have the facts behind me, you have wishful thinking. when people log on, they arent going to see your wishful thinking, they are going to see the same game.
So I do know what I'm talking about, I just disagree with your definition of the word "patch" and thats seems to be what this thread is about (which is pretty pointless). The Features I and others have mentioned are all in the game so I don't see how anyone will be disappointed.
To answer your very first question :
The game features
having anyone other then GN running the game
The servers are in England and on the British Telecom Backbone
The fast response times of the QGO staff
Memories of korean Mir3 beta
Yes thats enough to get me hyped, and thats not even including the later JoB patch
This thread really only confuses people who have never heard of mir, as they don't have a clue what we are talking about. It should of really been thrashed out in a mir based forum so more people could have their say, nm.
I only can speak for the wizard class as thats the only char I played in Korean Mir3, but my experience was very different from Mir2, if yours wasn't then fine, tell it how you see it...and I'll tell it as I see it...but in the end it doesn't really matter.
I'm sure we would all be happy to see your screen shots
Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
Originally posted by fulmanfu i already admitted its a little more colorful :pyou can argue till your head pops off, but the bottom line, i have the facts behind me, you have wishful thinking. when people log on, they arent going to see your wishful thinking, they are going to see the same game.
I am hoping it will be the same game play(and it is because i have played the Korean version), because Mir 2 was fuken the best. Except Mir 3 will be better with more land and more everything. Mir 2 and Mir 3 has the same look, but Mir 3 is a lil more colorful and a lil more detailed. Cant get better with 2d.
But most importanly better Costumer service. Only if you have played Mir 2 u will know how horrible GN was.
Originally posted by fulmanfu i already admitted its a little more colorful i did play the beta i am currently playing a closed beta of it now one of the qgo team (at least 1, i dont know the rest socially speaking) used to run a private server biosphere, savage eden, and lagheim are all the same game, run by different companies i already said i enjoy the game anyway, i dont have an axe to grind. im just saying the truth, i will be in the closed beta, i will be in when/if it releases as well. you can argue till your head pops off, but the bottom line, i have the facts behind me, you have wishful thinking. when people log on, they arent going to see your wishful thinking, they are going to see the same game.
Sorry, I've got to laugh at this and the rest of your recent posts. You are letting your true colours shine through here.
Reality of new game engine - Mir2 developed in Delphi, LoM3 developed in C++. And, yes, its more colourful as well as you keep saying.
Same spells? You just have to compare the spell lists from the two guides and you will see the significant differences at all levels, not just high levels. Yes there are some spells that are the same, but that is to be expected in a sequel.
Only high level content added? Apart from new spells relating to the split of magics into 4 and 3 elelements for Sorcerers and Taoists respectively, new low level mobs (nothing stunniung but then, they're low level mobs so what do you expect?). Spell/skill aquisition now through quests and transaltion of books rather than simply from drops. Increased number of quests. Low level maps increased in number, area and design. And finally, not to forget, horses.
Other new content includes: completely revamped interface; revamping of the way pets work and what's allowed as a pet; combat works differently; HP/MP regening works differently.
Anyway, by your arguements, that of course is still just patches. Even the fact that since Mir2 v1.5 (now at 1.9) and the initial Evil's Illusion release of LoM3 (now up to its 3rd episode) the two games have developed in separate directions with no more content overlap.
People who played Mir2 will be able to log in to LoM3 and see if they think its a new game or not. Hopefully they will recognise the similarities and the differences, even if you can't. To people that never played Mir2, it'll be a new game in any case.
Finally, to reiterate, the answer to your supposed thread question: What's all the Hype? Even if all you say were true, the hype is about the anticipation of a reliable service with good quality customer support. All the hype will be justified as long as that comes to pass. The game itself is excellent, whether its Mir2, Mir2 with patches or a totally new game.
Oh, and all my views are personal and in no way affiliated with QGO. My experience comes from playing only the official Mir2 release and the Korean beta of EI. I've never touched a private server and never will as in any case, they cannot give a true picture of what the real game will be like.
PS: you haven't got a beagle, its only a wolf with a few patches added
Originally posted by TheHiddenOne [Same spells? You just have to compare the spell lists from the two guides and you will see the significant differences at all levels, not just high levels. Yes there are some spells that are the same, but that is to be expected in a sequel.
quick look at warrior magic, this is all of them (according to both official websites) before lvl 40
Mir3 1. swordmanship(same thing as fencing swordmanship) 2. slaying 3. advanced slaying(same thing as thrusting 4. halfmoon 5. shoulderdash 6. flaming sword 7. dragon rise(same thing) 8. bladestorm(lvl 38, the first thing resembling a new skill) 9. full moon
guess its just a small patch for warriors, whole new game for everyone else. hopefully exp rate will be 10x what it is in mir2(which it is not, atm anyway) or you play for a year before you get one of these great skill from this whole brand spankin new game!!
and yes im sure hes a beagle, but i just bought him a new collar, so..according to logic of you guys on this thread, heas a whole different beagle now!!
Originally posted by Fireburst Originally posted by crazytn Everyone forgot about houses? Been too long cant remeber if u can have houses. But I think u can right? Hmmm not sure about houses. I just like the idea of playing a warrior and having a pet
Pets are kinda usless to buy. Cost too much. But its fun to buy one once in a while just for fun.
Pets do cost quite a bit (30K for decent pet) but in the korean beta they paid for themselves after the first hour...a BES at lvl 7 when your lvl 20 is pretty useful
I once took a Right guard to the mines and wiped the place out....loads of Gold drops and exp.
If the gold drops are high in Euro Mir3 (like in Korean beta) then it should be cost effective.
Originally posted by Vengi Pets do cost quite a bit (30K for decent pet) but in the korean beta they paid for themselves after the first hour...a BES at lvl 7 when your lvl 20 is pretty useful I once took a Right guard to the mines and wiped the place out....loads of Gold drops and exp. If the gold drops are high in Euro Mir3 (like in Korean beta) then it should be cost effective. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vengi LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon ServerLvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta http://www.totalformat.com/Guides/LOM3/guide/ this is the unofficial guide to mir3 http://www.totalformat.com/Mir3/siege.avi (right click and save) This is an ingame movie of the siege of Sabuk Wall (a Guild owned castle).
Dont think its worth it for a Warrior tho, because u cant heal it. W8ing for it to heal up sucks, and they are weak at lvl 0 when u get them.
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After reading this I thought it would be good to clarify some points.
-It was intended to be an "add on" at first but since the developers ambitions were so high it would not of been possible to just have it as a patch. So they went ahead and redeveloped it as a game. Doing this allowed them to exceed the potential of mir2.
-The point about spells is also of interest. In mir3 mobs have different resistances to different types of magic, as I believe Vengi mentioned earlier. This means that although you could use the same spell eg.Tbolt against all mobs it wouldn't be the wisest thing to do. This is just one of the ways in which mir3 is more varied than mir2.
I would suggest that before anyone prejudges this game that they try out the open beta, afterall it will be free and if you don't like it, you don't have to play it
this game looks like RTS
I have to agree with fulmanfu. Mir3 does look like an add on too Mir2. A few extra mobs {somebody said 150 but that seems way too high}, maps, spells etc but the basic gameplay is still the same. I don't see how anyone can argue differently.
I think the main reason people are excited about Mir3's release though is because a lot of people who quit Mir2 through boredom and bad service are going to give it a try. Its going to be a reunion of sorts. Although Mir2 is a very good game it was the community that made it great.
Mir was a gr8 game.....many are lookin 4ward to it
You may have played a private server but these are not the original and are totally different. Lvlin speeds are different....stats and not to mention the whole attitude when playing.
Looks are not everything many gamers wud take community spirit and gameplay n e day over these many new games that have ownage graphics and little else.
The game play of the new 3d games i have played are really boring. With no potion to regen. ur health and mp points. U have to fight and rest. Making lvling even more boring.
Lol @ all the people saying it's the same game. Simply because it has the same isometric perspective.
yet newsflash all the 3d games your playing really are the same they are all clones of each other, take linage2 I've never seen a more blatant EQ1 clone and EQ 1 still better lol.
What EI is, is a very similar game as similar as most of the current mmorpgs out there are to each other ie they look pretty similar. Well it does have enough gameplay and basic coding differences to make it a new game in my opinion at least as much as nearly every other mmorpg out there claims to be.
Go read the petition thread for a change in the industry the gentleman rightly claims the market is saturated with terrible cheap nasty clones, all graphics + bugs and no gameplay so frankly mir3 is a newer game in the style of mmorpgs (Despite being old lol) that are currently in trend.
So stop talking poo it looks like an addon when you completely change a games graphics (which they are you all just look at it and see 2d isometric and stop thinking there) and basicly program it from scratch just in a similar setting and style of the series its a new game.
And no one can accuse me of having tinted specs about this game lmao.
the current phase of alpha in the mmorpg freeword, they overhauled the graphics, and added a rideable spider pet for the altrog race to ride(among other things im sure).
you LoM guys need to go tell them to change the name to freeworld2, becasue unbeknownst to the devs there, they are working on a completely new game now.
p.s. i never said it looked like an add-on, i said it IS an add-on, becuase IT IS!
christ this is like trying to teach my beagle table manners..
Its run by a diff. company. So You cant go and delete Mir2 off the list and replace it with Mir 3.
Since its listed as two games, Mir 3 is a diff game
Hmmm Lets see... new engine, new areas, new spells, new control system but you call it a patch. Wake up and smell the roses. By your definition every game that brings out a sequel is just a patch.
Mir3 was first envisioned as a patch but then they decided to take it a step further.. new engine etc and at that point they decided that it should go it's separate ways. I doubt this will sink in because you come across as a very stubborn 'black is the same as white, because I say so' type of person. You keep saying that EQ2 is a new game compared to EQ1. That is the only thing you have said that makes sense. You cannot have it both ways. You tell me why EQ2 is a different game to EQ1 and also tell me why the same rules don't apply to LOM3.
Back your arguments up with fact instead of trolling for arguments.
Your Freeworld argument has no bearing on the case as it's still in development.
Mir2 in Korea has existed side my side with mir3 for quite a while now...Mir2 still has a large user base and is getting regular patches so it's development history is separate from Mir3.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
The question we all should be asking is "what is a patch"?
Well a patch is piece of software that either corrects the present code or grafts something on to it, in the case of a MMORPG that would be items, maps etc.
Mir3 is new code that is not compatible with mir2 therefore can not be classed as a patch. This is fact and can not be really be argued against in any logical manner.
Your second post basically said you had illegal server code in your possession
"i can put up a server for it tonight if i want" - fulmanfu
In the end you are using old knowledge and obsolete code to base your fragile arguments on.
Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server
LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
http://www.totalformat.com/Guides/LOM3/guide/ this is the unofficial guide to mir3
http://www.totalformat.com/Mir3/siege.avi (right click and save) This is an ingame movie of the siege of Sabuk Wall (a Guild owned castle).
never said i would, never said i did. i just said i 'could' as could anyone with a half decent computer, becasue the files for it are readilly available for some reason.
no, i am using commone sense to base my fragile arguments on. that and the fact that anyone who played mir2 and logs into mir3 for 30 seconds will say i am right(unless they are fanboi or just trying to sell the game, dishonestly mind you)
ok fireburst, where are your facts to back up your arguments? cant have it both ways. hey, maybe the 'new' engine and control system is real, who knows, but it plays exactly like mir2 , so if it is new, no wonder the 'whole new game' didnt go anywhere the first go round
, i guess the devs of it just got disheartened when they realized it was the same exact thing, exept the horses and desert.
like i said, anyone who played mir2 and logs into mir 3 will see the truth, no matter how hard you fanbois try to sell it, eventually people will log in (or just take a quick look at both 'games' screenshots and map pages')
Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server
LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
http://www.totalformat.com/Guides/LOM3/guide/ this is the unofficial guide to mir3
http://www.totalformat.com/Mir3/siege.avi (right click and save) This is an ingame movie of the siege of Sabuk Wall (a Guild owned castle).
Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server
LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
http://www.totalformat.com/Guides/LOM3/guide/ this is the unofficial guide to mir3
http://www.totalformat.com/Mir3/siege.avi (right click and save) This is an ingame movie of the siege of Sabuk Wall (a Guild owned castle).
If you had tried out Mir3 when it was in beta in Korea you would know well it plays like a completely different game. You rant on matters you know nothing of. You are obviously a ex Mir2 player with a axe to grind.
Regarding the facts in regards the new engine. A fool can see it's a completely different game engine. The fact that it is 16 bit as opposed to Mir2's 8 bit engine should sink into even your think skin.
As I said, why don't you pick a subject to troll on which you have a little knowledge about.
i already admitted its a little more colorful
i did play the beta
i am currently playing a closed beta of it now
one of the qgo team (at least 1, i dont know the rest socially speaking) used to run a private server
biosphere, savage eden, and lagheim are all the same game, run by different companies
i already said i enjoy the game anyway, i dont have an axe to grind. im just saying the truth, i will be in the closed beta, i will be in when/if it releases as well.
you can argue till your head pops off, but the bottom line, i have the facts behind me, you have wishful thinking. when people log on, they arent going to see your wishful thinking, they are going to see the same game.
Care to elaborate upon that...
On a different note I played Korean beta and to me it played like a completely different game so we will just have to agree to disagree.
It's not wishful thinking it's experience, see the screenie of the gold drop well thats me
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/screens/gameID/155
So I do know what I'm talking about, I just disagree with your definition of the word "patch" and thats seems to be what this thread is about (which is pretty pointless). The Features I and others have mentioned are all in the game so I don't see how anyone will be disappointed.
To answer your very first question :
The game features
having anyone other then GN running the game
The servers are in England and on the British Telecom Backbone
The fast response times of the QGO staff
Memories of korean Mir3 beta
Yes thats enough to get me hyped, and thats not even including the later JoB patch
This thread really only confuses people who have never heard of mir, as they don't have a clue what we are talking about. It should of really been thrashed out in a mir based forum so more people could have their say, nm.
I only can speak for the wizard class as thats the only char I played in Korean Mir3, but my experience was very different from Mir2, if yours wasn't then fine, tell it how you see it...and I'll tell it as I see it...but in the end it doesn't really matter.
I'm sure we would all be happy to see your screen shots
Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server
LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
http://www.totalformat.com/Guides/LOM3/guide/ this is the unofficial guide to mir3
http://www.totalformat.com/Mir3/siege.avi (right click and save) This is an ingame movie of the siege of Sabuk Wall (a Guild owned castle).
Mir 2 and Mir 3 has the same look, but Mir 3 is a lil more colorful and a lil more detailed. Cant get better with 2d.
But most importanly better Costumer service. Only if you have played Mir 2 u will know how horrible GN was.
Sorry, I've got to laugh at this and the rest of your recent posts. You are letting your true colours shine through here.
Reality of new game engine - Mir2 developed in Delphi, LoM3 developed in C++. And, yes, its more colourful as well as you keep saying.
Same spells? You just have to compare the spell lists from the two guides and you will see the significant differences at all levels, not just high levels. Yes there are some spells that are the same, but that is to be expected in a sequel.
Only high level content added? Apart from new spells relating to the split of magics into 4 and 3 elelements for Sorcerers and Taoists respectively, new low level mobs (nothing stunniung but then, they're low level mobs so what do you expect?). Spell/skill aquisition now through quests and transaltion of books rather than simply from drops. Increased number of quests. Low level maps increased in number, area and design. And finally, not to forget, horses.
Other new content includes: completely revamped interface; revamping of the way pets work and what's allowed as a pet; combat works differently; HP/MP regening works differently.
Anyway, by your arguements, that of course is still just patches. Even the fact that since Mir2 v1.5 (now at 1.9) and the initial Evil's Illusion release of LoM3 (now up to its 3rd episode) the two games have developed in separate directions with no more content overlap.
People who played Mir2 will be able to log in to LoM3 and see if they think its a new game or not. Hopefully they will recognise the similarities and the differences, even if you can't. To people that never played Mir2, it'll be a new game in any case.
Finally, to reiterate, the answer to your supposed thread question: What's all the Hype? Even if all you say were true, the hype is about the anticipation of a reliable service with good quality customer support. All the hype will be justified as long as that comes to pass. The game itself is excellent, whether its Mir2, Mir2 with patches or a totally new game.
Oh, and all my views are personal and in no way affiliated with QGO. My experience comes from playing only the official Mir2 release and the Korean beta of EI. I've never touched a private server and never will as in any case, they cannot give a true picture of what the real game will be like.
PS: you haven't got a beagle, its only a wolf with a few patches added
quick look at warrior magic, this is all of them (according to both official websites) before lvl 40
Mir2
1.fencing
2.slaying
3.thrusting
4.halfmoon
5.shoulderdash
6.flaming sword
7.twin drake blade
8.cross half moon
Mir3
1. swordmanship(same thing as fencing swordmanship)
2. slaying
3. advanced slaying(same thing as thrusting
4. halfmoon
5. shoulderdash
6. flaming sword
7. dragon rise(same thing)
8. bladestorm(lvl 38, the first thing resembling a new skill)
9. full moon
guess its just a small patch for warriors, whole new game for everyone else. hopefully exp rate will be 10x what it is in mir2(which it is not, atm anyway) or you play for a year before you get one of these great skill from this whole brand spankin new game!!
and yes im sure hes a beagle, but i just bought him a new collar, so..according to logic of you guys on this thread, heas a whole different beagle now!!
Everyone forgot about houses?
Been too long cant remeber if u can have houses. But I think u can right?
But its fun to buy one once in a while just for fun.
Pets do cost quite a bit (30K for decent pet) but in the korean beta they paid for themselves after the first hour...a BES at lvl 7 when your lvl 20 is pretty useful
I once took a Right guard to the mines and wiped the place out....loads of Gold drops and exp.
If the gold drops are high in Euro Mir3 (like in Korean beta) then it should be cost effective.
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Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server
LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
http://www.totalformat.com/Guides/LOM3/guide/ this is the unofficial guide to mir3
http://www.totalformat.com/Mir3/siege.avi (right click and save) This is an ingame movie of the siege of Sabuk Wall (a Guild owned castle).
Vengi
LvL 32 Wiz on Dragon Server
LvL 23 Wiz on server 4 EI Korean Beta
http://www.totalformat.com/Guides/LOM3/guide/ this is the unofficial guide to mir3
http://www.totalformat.com/Mir3/siege.avi (right click and save) This is an ingame movie of the siege of Sabuk Wall (a Guild owned castle).
if ya going to mention just the warior spells then at least get them right
1. swordsmanship
2. slaying
3. Advanced slaying
4. half moon
5. shoulder dash
6. flaming sword
7. dragon rise
8. blade storm
9. full moon
10. interchange
11. defience
12. beckon
13. might
and more still to be anounced
Alternitively goto www.totalformat.com/guides/lom3/
you will also notice that taoists and sorcerors have new skill as well