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Can I? or Should I?

Omega431Omega431 Member UncommonPosts: 92

u have all heard it before, but i have ran system req test after system req test, and i want the communities opinion now, can my computer run Vanguard half way decent.

3.0 gig Pentium 4

1 gig of Ram

GeForce 6800 128 MB OC edition

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  • Publish6246Publish6246 Member Posts: 346

    No chance in hell.

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  • methulahmethulah Member Posts: 236

    My 3700+, 2 gigs of RAM and 7900GT made it unpleasant to play on low settings.

  • VortigonVortigon Member UncommonPosts: 723

    You'll be struggling above minimum settings TBH, at very least look at doubling your RAM.

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    The really sad thing is that the OP's rig would run LOTRO extremely well, and its got beautiful graphics, stunning in spots. It would run most MMOs pretty well, I'd wager.

    How the heck did they fail to optimize VG's engine to that extreme? Really.. the responses to the OP are just so bad for Vanguard.

  • JadetoothJadetooth Member UncommonPosts: 372

    I doubt you'd be able to play it aswell. I wonder what sort of rigs they tested it on when they made it.

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  • BabyJesusBabyJesus Member Posts: 33

    This is what happens when you release an engine before its ready.

     

    To be honest, I don't know whats taking them so long to optimize it either. They licensed it, they should have some adequate support available, though their financial issues could mean they can't afford it.

  • v0xxv0xx Member Posts: 8

    You know, the game just sucks period.

  • SouvecSouvec Member UncommonPosts: 693

    I am not sure how many who responded actually VG today, but I will give you my perspective.

    System:

    3 GHZ P4 - Hyperthreaded

    2 gigs of RAM

    ATI 1950 XT 256 Graphics

    36 gig Raptor Drive

    My setup is very basic, and by far unimpressive.... but today I am able to play VG with medium settings, without to many issues.  I have chunking issues, I have stuttering, and of course there are some bugs such as graphic elements like walls dissapear from time to time.  Now with that said I have had no CTD's, which is a miracle considering most do. 

    Now wih your setup, I am certain you will be able to play the game, but with lower settings than what I have.  I think its going to mainly fall on two elements, your ram and your video card.  2+ gigs of Ram will help alot.  A video card that is a little more current will also do wonders as well.  But even if you have a rig that is capabale of running VG at 40-50 FPS, that doesn't equal jack.  You can still have high FPS and still get the stuttering and other issues that VG has at the moment.  I am not going to blow sunshine up anyone's ass, it needs work yet.  If you can get past some of the initial issues, you'd be surprised at how interesting, and diverse VG can be at times.  With the upcoming game updates, unless they have not tested it thoroughly, will help out performance for most who are playing right now.

    So yeah your rig can play it, but not at the "Highest Settings" or even at "Medium Settings".  With a little more ram and a slightly newer vid card you should be able to play at with "Medium Settings" like I am currently. 

    Hope this helped.

  • healz4uhealz4u Member Posts: 1,065

    Can You?

    I am not exactly sure, but I would strongly suggest 2 gigs of ram for this game and others.

     

    Should You?

    If I were not on the Station Pass, I would not be playing the game.  Overall, I do not think you should until SOE has made greater progress in fixing, finishing, and enhancing the game. 

     

  • Omega431Omega431 Member UncommonPosts: 92

    couple of things, my processor is Hyperthreadin also, probably doesnt matter though, and i was also thinkin about waiting for the Vanguard trial coming soon. and yes my setup can play most MMOs on high visual setting, although LoTRO still didnt look very good even on the highest settings.

  • SouvecSouvec Member UncommonPosts: 693

    PerOriginally posted by Omega431


    couple of things, my processor is Hyperthreadin also, probably doesnt matter though, and i was also thinkin about waiting for the Vanguard trial coming soon.
    Personally, even though I play it, I'd wait for the trial.  Some people can play just fine right now, and enjoy the game.  Some just can not handle it, and wish they never bought the game.

    I'd rather see you try it out, see if you like it first, then go from there.  That way you can also test your hardware, with their new optimizations that are coming up with that trial.

  • Omega431Omega431 Member UncommonPosts: 92

    k, Thanks everyone for your opinions, i think ill wait for the trial

  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281

    Originally posted by Omega431


    couple of things, my processor is Hyperthreadin also, probably doesnt matter though, and i was also thinkin about waiting for the Vanguard trial coming soon. and yes my setup can play most MMOs on high visual setting, although LoTRO still didnt look very good even on the highest settings.
     Your right hyperthreadin does nothing at all to help run VG. (as my computer had all the reccommended specs as well as that and I still couldn't really play on anything higher then min graphic settings)

      So no your computer can't run it, you really need at least 2 gig ram one just won't do it.

  • TwohededboyTwohededboy Member Posts: 200

    Your rig is similar to mine except I have 2 gigs of RAM and a NVIDIA 7300gs.  After much tweaking of the VGClient.ini and reading the forums, I am able to run it on medium settings with little or no hitching. The main thing is the hitching graphics while moving around. I am waiting now to see if they can pull of another EQ2 before I put alot of time in to this game.

  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281

    Originally posted by healz4u


    Can You?
    I am not exactly sure, but I would strongly suggest 2 gigs of ram for this game and others.
     
    Should You?
    If I were not on the Station Pass, I would not be playing the game.  Overall, I do not think you should until SOE has made greater progress in fixing, finishing, and enhancing the game. 
     
     Umm who are you really and what have you done with the real Healz4u ????!! 

     Just joking with you but you have to admit this post is a big turn around from your posts a few months back when you were saying tha game was ruinning fine and almost all problems had been fixed etc.

  • jayheld90jayheld90 Member UncommonPosts: 1,726

    Originally posted by methulah


    My 3700+, 2 gigs of RAM and 7900GT made it unpleasant to play on low settings.
    thats pretty funny since my computer has almost exactly the same as the OP.

    amd 64 3200+

    1g ram

    6800gs 256mb

    and it runs right above medium w/35-40+ fps...

  • ctzn99ctzn99 Member UncommonPosts: 75

    Originally posted by skinnys


    I doubt you'd be able to play it aswell. I wonder what sort of rigs they tested it on when they made it.

    They tested it?  Did you play the same Vanguard i played?  But in all honesty both bugs and performance have improved.

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
  • LoothurLoothur Member Posts: 120

    Originally posted by Omega431


    u have all heard it before, but i have ran system req test after system req test, and i want the communities opinion now, can my computer run Vanguard half way decent.
    3.0 gig Pentium 4
    1 gig of Ram
    GeForce 6800 128 MB OC edition

    I run a VERY similar setup to yours.  The only difference between your system and mine is that I have 2 gigs of ram instead of 1 gig.  I run the game on Balanced settings, and it runs very nicely.  I do get major lag in big cities, but that has more to do with the optimization of the code then my system.  That being said, SoE is actively working to optomize the game, so as more and more content gets optomized, the video lag will subside.

    I do highly suggest that you get 2 gigs of ram to play the game.  The game easily uses up 1gig of ram, and there are memory leaks in the game that will pump your memory usage up to 70% or more usage of 2gigs of ram.  Don't bother going with anything above 2 gigs of ram because the game will NOT take advantage of more then 2 gigs of ram.

    I do NOT suggest upgrading your video card.  This might seem odd at first, but the reason for this is because the newer GeForce cards are having a lot of driver issues right now.  This is one of the greatest confusions amoung those angry with Vanguard.  They went out and bought the top of the line GeForce card and the game runs like crap on it.  The majority of the problem actually has to do with the Nvidia drivers for the newest GeForce cards are buggy as hell.  Compound that on top of the fact that Vanguard's code is highly unoptomized and has bugs, and you just get a nightmare.  Until Nvidia perfects their new video drivers, your 6800 will run the game just fine.

    For the most part, here is what you can expect when playing the game.  When you are in outside areas with tons of mobs or people around you, the game will run badly.  Expect it.  Until the code gets better optomized, this is just how it will be.  As soon as you get to an indoor area, the video lags cuts down greatly.

    Obviously, the more you do to improve your cpu, motherboard bus speed, ram speed, and such, the better the game will run.  Just don't focus solely on your video card and expect that to fix all the video lag.  That's the biggest mistake people make with games.  They think that the majority of their video lag has to do with their video card.  The trueth of the matter is that there are MANY factors that relate to your video performance in games such as:

    1. How fast is your cpu

    2. are you running a dual core cpu

    3. what is the speed of your motherboard's bus system.  (This is highly important because this relates to how fast data can move between your cpu, memory, and video card.  As you play games, data is constantly being moved around your computer, and the faster you can transport that data, the faster it can render the graphics.)

    4. how fast is your system memory.  (again this is very important.  If you have 2 gigs of slow system memory, then you are going to have worse performance then someone with super fast system memory.)

    5. how big is the data path in your video card... are you on a 64bit, 128bit, or 256bit card.

    6. what is the speed of the memory on your video card.  (if you have the fastest motherboard/system memory combination out there, but your video card's memory is slow, then you will not get the performance out of your games that you think you should)

    etc.  There are so many factors to consider.

    Simply put, get at least 2 gigs of ram before considering to play the game.  And, then be prepared for the game to run "ok" in balanced mode on your computer.  If you decide to upgrade your computer, get at least a dual core cpu with the fastest system memory available at the time and a 7000 series GeForce video card.  Stay away from the 8000 series GeForce video cards until Nvidia improves their video drivers.

     

    Loothur VonRichten
    Wood Elven Ranger of the Florendyl RP Server

  • goofy3kgoofy3k Member UncommonPosts: 250

    These people must all be talking poo. My comp is only an Athlon 64 3000+, 1.5gb ram, 7600gs and i can run the game smoothly. Since the new updates to the game they have actually improved performance, and are going to continue to improve the issues. Obviously there are times where i will suffer fps loss - such as cities and when there is alot going on nearby, but this happens in other games too..even in wow i got slight fps drop when first entering cities.

    Thay have just recently merged the servers to increase player population, which is alot better too. I used to hate VG, i hyped it so much personally i thought it was gonna be the ultimate mmo, when my pc couldnt play it on max gfx i bashed the hell out of this game. I regret it now though, im actually enjoying it, and i might upgrade my pc soon anyways so i can see everything on max settings.

     Edit - also the gfx i currently have ingame are better than those the game auto detected during beta. most settings are at medium (half way on sliders etc) with bloom and lighting/shadows.

  • boojiboyboojiboy Member UncommonPosts: 1,553

    Originally posted by Omega431


    u have all heard it before, but i have ran system req test after system req test, and i want the communities opinion now, can my computer run Vanguard half way decent.
    3.0 gig Pentium 4
    1 gig of Ram
    GeForce 6800 128 MB OC edition
    Processor is fine, 1 gig of ram is workable now, but not optimal.  The video card won't work I don't believe.  I used to own this exact card and it wouldn't even run EQ2 for me.  Something about shaders.... it simply didn't have on of the technical requirements.

    That said, plug in a 8800 of any type and you would have a very similar rig to me which runs it fine on medium settings.

  • LoothurLoothur Member Posts: 120

    Originally posted by goofy3k


    These people must all be talking poo. My comp is only an Athlon 64 3000+, 1.5gb ram, 7600gs and i can run the game smoothly. Since the new updates to the game they have actually improved performance, and are going to continue to improve the issues. Obviously there are times where i will suffer fps loss - such as cities and when there is alot going on nearby, but this happens in other games too..even in wow i got slight fps drop when first entering cities.
    Thay have just recently merged the servers to increase player population, which is alot better too. I used to hate VG, i hyped it so much personally i thought it was gonna be the ultimate mmo, when my pc couldnt play it on max gfx i bashed the hell out of this game. I regret it now though, im actually enjoying it, and i might upgrade my pc soon anyways so i can see everything on max settings.
     Edit - also the gfx i currently have ingame are better than those the game auto detected during beta. most settings are at medium (half way on sliders etc) with bloom and lighting/shadows.
    I agree with you man...  a lot of people talk down the performance of the game because they have not played it since SoE took over.  SoE has actually made a lot of good changes to the game, and it runs a ton better then it did in beta.

     

    Loothur VonRichten
    Wood Elven Ranger of the Florendyl RP Server

  • tombear81tombear81 Member Posts: 810

    Originally posted by Loothur


     


     Stay away from the 8000 series GeForce video cards until Nvidia improves their video drivers.

    Now come on! The 8 Series cards problems have been solved by NVIDIA driver updates in the past few months. The only real trouble I ever had was slow OpenGl performance in linux and Battlefeild 2142 locking up with Rivatuner in the background.

    VG has problems and  is one of the few remaing new games to have problems. I rather suspect this is down to the lack of testing VG recieved by Sigil.

  • tombear81tombear81 Member Posts: 810

    Originally posted by goofy3k


    These people must all be talking poo. My comp is only an Athlon 64 3000+, 1.5gb ram, 7600gs and i can run the game smoothly.

    Similar to my old rig but with a 6600 Card, 1 Gig of RAM. The game ran crap on all settings low medium and high.. Below 16 FPS generally anywhere and below 4 FPS in crowded areas.  Smoothly was not an applicable word for me :(

  • VirgoThreeVirgoThree Member UncommonPosts: 1,198

    I played the game with this set up on med-low settings with around 20fps.

     

    1gig ram

    3.0 Pentium 4

    ATI RAdeon x850 pro 256mb

    10,000rpm harddrive

    I played vanguard from closed beta 3 starting in September up to release. I never went to the lowest setting just because it looked god awful. Although performance wasn't great it was playable most of the time.

    On a side note i think during beta 3 i had like 5fps.

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