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The "I Give Up on Funcom" Thread
Varol5
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Awesome. The one person who that was intended for got to see it! Hooray!
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OP, you need to relax. In the SD world we call projects like MMO launches "Big-Bang" projects, and they are some of the hardest to develop and release on time since you implement the code all at once, instead of small agile releases which can guarantee a much greater degree of certainly with regards to cost and schedule.
In fact, very few big bang projects meet their deadline...has Microsoft ever hit a targeted release date with a new operating system..(or in fact, do their operating systems really work that well initially after release?)
You're just way too high strung about this... fact is, this game launches w/o being as polished as LotRO, and fully functional with all the features they promised us and it will be buried by WAR or some other game. They've got too much at stake to screw it all up now by releasing a broken game right now.
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That was sad...
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Acutally, if it was a lie, that would mean that they never had any intention of releasing on October 30th, that they knowingly and willfully did not tell the truth. Or do you think that they felt they were setting a reasonable date that they could hit back then?
Not to be rude, but I'm guessing that you were not the one who gave them the $30 million, so you pretty much have no idea exactly what they told the investor, nor what the terms of that agreement are. If you do have that info, please feel free to share it with us. In addition, it's much more reasonable to assume that any decision they make is for the long term health and success of a game, and if the investor is aware of the reasoning, then hard to believe that would not want to protect their investment by seeing it succeed.
From this part, it's obvious that you arent dealing too well with it. No offense, but a 32 year old adult should understand, and it should not cause this kind of emotional response. The fact that it does, raises all sorts of red flags about your post, but no reason to go into 'em you know your own issues. I'd suggest a game like this if you dont understand the industry, and if you are getting this upset over a delay, not to mention trying to present things in a manner that indicate you dont even have a full grasp of the facts yourself.
Take a step back, a deep breath, and relax. Good luck in your quest to find another game, I hope it meets all your requirements, and you end up enjoying it. Best wishes to ya!
All they need to do is to release the game and not have players become "engrossed" and they have a flop. In this day and age it has to be "great" or else players will go on the attack.
I'm sorry but OP, you are sound like a 6 year old who was promised dessert, didn't get it and you throw a temper tantrum. Sure you have the right to be upset but it just seems "too much".
And "flame away losers". Wow... what does this say about you. You need to take a deep breath. Else you come across as a highly strung gamer who isn't getting their way.
Quite frankly, it seems that game companies are going to have to start expanding their release dates. The "3 year" mmorpg development time might just not be realistic nevermind 4 year. It almost seems like game companies need to be working on a game 2 years before they start releasing any information.
I personally applaud their decision to create something that is good from the beginning. Becuase quite frankly, I wonder how many game players would be the first to crucify the game companies because the game doesn't "quite" grab them at the start.
I tend to wonder if our OP would be first in line with a torch and pitchfork.
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WHAT?!? They pushed back the release date on a game that clearly isn't ready for release? What could they be thinking?!? Those bastards must have our best interests in mind. How dare they.....
On a side note, who gives a rat's ass when they release, as long as the game is good? It doesn't cost me (or you) one cent extra to wait until the game is ready. In fact, it'd cost us more if they release before the game was ready, because we'd be paying for beta (much like I did with Vanguard - ugh).
Yes it sucks to wait another 5-6 months, but 7 or 8 months from now, you'll be glad that you did.
But it does make you wonder what sort of monkeys are passing themselves off as game developers these days!
Every recent "WoW killer" has taken 4 years to develop, is at least a year late and the ones already launched either need another year in development (Vanguard) or are bland, unimaginative copies of WoW with most of the content still missing (LOTRO).
I guess they (and we) are learning that producing a stable, imaginative, polished and involving MMORG is not as easy to cash in in as they thought ...... and Blizzard are laughing all the way to the bank!
So how long do you think it took to create WoW? I first heard at the end of 2001 (Im betting before that) and didnt come out until the end of 2004. Seriously, people need to chill and ttake a step back, its a fucking game. If it comes out and is shit after you've forked out for it moan your balls off but until then stop poxy whining. Fucking maggots, all decent games will take years to develop, live with it or wait until you have pubes, then live with it some more.
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So how long do you think it took to create WoW? I first heard at the end of 2001 (Im betting before that) and didnt come out until the end of 2004. Seriously, people need to chill and ttake a step back, its a fucking game. If it comes out and is shit after you've forked out for it moan your balls off but until then stop poxy whining. Fucking maggots, all decent games will take years to develop, live with it or wait until you have pubes, then live with it some more.
So ......... any comments on the point I was actually making? Both your attitude and mathematics would appear to need some work btw
Not that it matters. But I know WoW was being worked on to some degree within 7 or so months of Everquest 1 release as some blizzard people were already talking about it. I didn't asked so Its possible that they might have been working on it even before that time. One thing blizzard did have were plenty of cash and the sense not to announce a release date until they were really ready to release.
Personally I didn't think WoW was in all that much better shape than the current games when it was released. Of course now people are comparing a mature WoW to newly released games.
I like this thread.
It made me laugh.
Wow my 2 posts earlier in the thread vanished.... hmmmm!
Big differance is that few people actually want new OSs from Microsoft. ;-0
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Bye Bye OP,
You wont be missed - go try Runescape you will fit in there perfect.
Take it you think your funny editing: In relation to your edited post:
"Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating
victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous English longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as
"plucking the yew" (or "pluck yew").
Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, See, we can still pluck yew!
Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant
cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodentals
fricative F, and thus the words often used in conjunction with the
one-finger-salute!
It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird."
"Pluck Yew"
I got a temp ban for saying that maybe the fact the ncsoft made AA was why it failed... WTF is up with that really. I think ncsoft suxs and they have never made a good game... Why can't i post that.
Its not trolling i really feel that way.
So i kinda agree with the very first part ... but i do not understand at all why you are mad at Funcom ... becuase they pushed back release?? Doesn't seem to be a reason to get mad at a game co. if you ask me.
Out of all your flip offs only one that is really warrented is the fanboys onne , becuase well for one year i been telling them in these forums that the combat and animations look junkyy ... and all i got was , your a troll, its beta, WAr/WOW/ETc etc etc look worse (which they don't), even with vids they still denied the truth. And often post a link to a vids that is 1 speed up in frame rate, or 2 heavily edited. Had they started saying made you know what i like the idea of AoC but that looks shitty, then the dev may have listened soon , and wasted less time and started fixing what needed to be fixed. Instead they gave funcom an exposer safety-net and well now you have your second delay.
PS. I d/l'ed this Runescape game and its so amazing graphix are totally tubular and quest/combat/gameplay beats anything out for like 20 year from now ... right on.
Lot of mod/ total post user editing going on in this thread... kinda said .. freedom >>> nice words and pretty flowers .... though i do like flowers.
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No, I wont. Cause the lying, incompetent thieves at Funcom wont see a penny from me. I pity those of you who are so caught up in blind loyalty and fanboyism that you feel the need to rush to defend a company who is misleading you.
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Hmm, how do I put this. My concern is as a fan of Robert E. Howard(I don't want them to distort his stories), not as a fan of MMORPG's(I'm still convinced that AoC will be the best MMO ever), and the reason I'm angry is because FC is saying one thing while doing another. And while these things won't matter to the casual gamer, they do matter to RP'ers and fans of the lore.
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its a sad day. now we must try to find something else to play till aoc cums out
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I gave up following this game, last year, to all those that I told it would be a dud...
I told you so. lol.
I can however see AOC being decent a year after it releases, once the majority of players have DX10 cards, and they've worked out the massive balance issues and graphics issues in AOC. By then it will be too late, for WAR will be going strong!
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lol.......................lolWhat have they stolen from you?
What have they stolen from you?
His happiness apparently. geeze, couldn't you tell.
I think the misleading thing is starting to become a little truer than months and months ago though. Hopefully they'll actually show what they promised at Leipzig and some faith will be restored in them for their previous followers.
I think that's going to be where they either soar or fall straight to the earth in a ball of fire.
I mean if they don't make a huge appearance and show a lot of stuff at Leipzig, they're not going to have many more legs to stand on. By a lot of stuff, or course I mean a lot of PvP stuff.
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What have they stolen from you?
No kidding, even if Funcom decided to turn into a more legit looking version of Loud Ant Software (or whatever the hell they're calling themselves now) and the game never existed, the only thing "stolen" from anyone is the time they chose to spend looking at it. Funcom hasn't even started taking preorders. Anyone gipped in that way would have had their money stolen by gamestop or whatever other site they bought a preorder from, not FC.
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Big differance is that few people actually want new OSs from Microsoft. ;-0
I just installed vista today and just to say
it broke me physicly
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