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SWG is completly ruined now

I was playing for awhile,the new beast master system was completely ridiculous! almost impossible to make a pet

it was sad when I spawned in lowca not a soul! boring then I tried bloodfin nothing but a bunch of little brats running around challenging low lvl players to duals.

THEN! yesterday I went in to play and a new update has made it extremely hard to kill NPC,s I ran up to a Blackscale lvl 81 I was a 90 jedi

sad to say I couldent beat a lvl 81 blackscale finally after 3 tries I gave up nothing fun in getting slaughter 100 times before winning

well SOE you really killed the game! to anyone wanting to even try going back forget it! dont bother unless your a nose picking brat!

resource prices are like 9999999 its ridiculous! just figured Id fill you in.

 

 

RIP sow

sad

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  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495
    Originally posted by kinohihi


    I was playing for awhile,the new beast master system was completely ridiculous! almost impossible to make a pet. Why was this impossible?, was it due to not having the patients to try it, or was it the lack of understading how it actualy works?. Still you don't have to like it, don't be ashamed if you don't like it, its alright
    it was sad when I spawned in lowca not a soul! boring then I tried bloodfin nothing but a bunch of little brats running around challenging low lvl players to duals.
    THEN! yesterday I went in to play and a new update has made it extremely hard to kill NPC,s I ran up to a Blackscale lvl 81 I was a 90 jedi, Are you talking about the Blackscale Processing Camp? If so how many people where in your group?

    Natural Level: 81
    HAM 39993
    Aggressive: Yes
    Stalker: No
    Deathblows: Yes, depending on quest
    Social: Yes
    Tamable: No
    Mountable: No
    Difficulty: Elite

    sad to say I couldent beat a lvl 81 blackscale finally after 3 tries I gave up nothing fun in getting slaughter 100 times before winning
    well SOE you really killed the game! to anyone wanting to even try going back forget it! dont bother unless your a nose picking brat!
    resource prices are like 9999999 its ridiculous! just figured Id fill you in. Ah i see you are new to the game, well let me explain when you see prices like 9999999 its not ridiculous, it more like people who use it a storage and do not want to sell these items, sure there are some people that seem ot put even 5units of wood up in storage, but for use gamers its not like they try to sell these things but more using it as away to keep their stuff in storage. But again all a person has do to is have just alittle patient, who cares resources are over priced, its not like its not easy enough to get them yourself so why complain about something you have in hand into changing yourself, set up a miner and mine your own stuff. All the skill one needs is patients, but even if a person has patients its still not a garanty he or she wil like a game, its all about what people want out of a game.
     
    RIP sow
    sad

    Let me be clear not one person i know has any problem fighting a "normal" cl 81 mob, i mean i as Master Trader can deal with Cl86/87 mobs so let alone what damage a Combatant can do. This is meant for the comment below as it seems you think that people can't fight these "normal" mobs, as we all can, like i said if a Trader can do, a Jedi will most definitly.  And well if its the Blackscale camp then the whole topic that is created makes no sense atall, regardles if someone is able to, its simple not meant, and sure some might try but then don't come to a forum complain about something you already knew would be hard or quite impossible to do.

  • xacovaxacova Member Posts: 190

    When is a jedi  not a jedi ? answer: in swg thats  when!   im sorry but a lev 90 jedi or any profession should be able to beat a lev 81 mob  fullstop. perhaps not an elite master just my opinion.

    as for the 99999999 over priced items  yes that just people using there vendors for storage reasons  that nothing new at all.

     

    But hey its good news if SOE keep screwing up  perhaps swg will close and a new one made by someone else will come out ! 

  • DeaconXDeaconX Member UncommonPosts: 3,062
    Originally posted by xacova


    When is a jedi  not a jedi ? answer: in swg thats  when!   im sorry but a lev 90 jedi or any profession should be able to beat a lev 81 mob  fullstop. perhaps not an elite master just my opinion.
    as for the 99999999 over priced items  yes that just people using there vendors for storage reasons  that nothing new at all.
     
    But hey its good news if SOE keep screwing up  perhaps swg will close and a new one made by someone else will come out ! 



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  • eccotoneccoton Member UncommonPosts: 1,340

    Completely ruined now? It was ruined the day NGE hit SWG.

  • in4sitin4sit Member Posts: 130
    Originally posted by eccoton


    Completely ruined now? It was ruined the day NGE hit SWG.



    Says it all right there!  As I said in other posts,... I really hope it was worth it for SOE and LA... to take a "Ok" game to one of the worst games ever...   I would give them 2 thumbs up on that one.

    Been there done that:
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  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293
    Originally posted by eccoton


    Completely ruined now? It was ruined the day NGE hit SWG.

    Yeah you cant kill whats already dead. Sony may screw things up again... but what SGE was is gone.

  • TeiraaTeiraa Member UncommonPosts: 447
    Originally posted by DeaconX
    BioWare. 2009.  See you there. .. .. i hope...(More Like I WISH hehe)

    What if it's developed by BioWare, and co-published by LA and SOE... , would you still like it? 

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293
    Originally posted by Teiraa

    Originally posted by DeaconX
    BioWare. 2009.  See you there. .. .. i hope...(More Like I WISH hehe)

    What if it's developed by BioWare, and co-published by LA and SOE... , would you still like it? 

    thats like dating siamese twins, where one of the twins is GORGEOUS, and the other twin looks like a burn victim.

  • azgarthazgarth Member UncommonPosts: 188

    If you were a master creature handler before NGE you are probably not rich, unless you kept another account and had some profitable crafting profession, or a active guild that went to places that allowed you to loot nice gear. Again you would have to put it on a vendor. I received from a veteran friend a few million credits he made that way. It gave me to buy some medium quality stuff to create a pet and picked Beastmaster. The pet has a cap of 43 or so points if that much, so compared to my creatures from before NGE it aint good.

    I had to spend a lot of money with each change on Creature Handler. The armour droped, the levels changed, the specials came in, I lost track of the changes to be honest, but were many. So i needed BE pets with good specials. The levels changed so I could not convert older BE pets due to the patches and was forced to buy more BE pets to replace old ones. Then I had to go tame creatures again because those BE pets became worthless at a certain point, a little before NGE.

    So playing since 2 weeks after the game went live, with max lvl master creature handler/BH, all i had of my own was 2 millions. The rest went to armour, repairs, weapons, droids, pets, stims, pet stims, and so on, plus ship components. If it wasn't for the heritage i got i could only make a totaly useless pet, so I understand what the OP means on what regards beastmaster.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,488
    Originally posted by Teiraa

    Originally posted by DeaconX
    BioWare. 2009.  See you there. .. .. i hope...(More Like I WISH hehe)

    What if it's developed by BioWare, and co-published by LA and SOE... , would you still like it? 



    This is most likely going to be the case, along with SOEs F2P model.

    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803

    Originally posted by azgarth


    If you were a master creature handler before NGE you are probably not rich, unless you kept another account and had some profitable crafting profession, or a active guild that went to places that allowed you to loot nice gear. Again you would have to put it on a vendor. I received from a veteran friend a few million credits he made that way. It gave me to buy some medium quality stuff to create a pet and picked Beastmaster. The pet has a cap of 43 or so points if that much, so compared to my creatures from before NGE it aint good.
    I had to spend a lot of money with each change on Creature Handler. The armour droped, the levels changed, the specials came in, I lost track of the changes to be honest, but were many. So i needed BE pets with good specials. The levels changed so I could not convert older BE pets due to the patches and was forced to buy more BE pets to replace old ones. Then I had to go tame creatures again because those BE pets became worthless at a certain point, a little before NGE.
    So playing since 2 weeks after the game went live, with max lvl master creature handler/BH, all i had of my own was 2 millions. The rest went to armour, repairs, weapons, droids, pets, stims, pet stims, and so on, plus ship components. If it wasn't for the heritage i got i could only make a totaly useless pet, so I understand what the OP means on what regards beastmaster.

    If you were serious about PvP, being a CH was not a good option, for many of the reasons you cite...at least after the Great Nerf of December '03.

    It's true that the CU messed so badly with BE creature stats that many creatures that were decent in combat became uncallable..another example of the the devs capricious and cavalier treatment of the player base.  They did the same thing with armor stats, with weapon stats, with pharmaceutical stats, with food stats.  Hours of reasearch and crafting experimentation wiped out with a causal keystroke by the devs, destroying player accomplishments on a whim.

    Then they do even more of the same, with a bloody vindictiveness, with the NGE.

    CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.

    Once a denizen of Ahazi

  • xPaladinxPaladin Member UncommonPosts: 741

    Originally posted by SioBabble


     
    It's true that the CU messed so badly with BE creature stats that many creatures that were decent in combat became uncallable..another example of the the devs capricious and cavalier treatment of the player base.  They did the same thing with armor stats, with weapon stats, with pharmaceutical stats, with food stats.  Hours of reasearch and crafting experimentation wiped out with a causal keystroke by the devs, destroying player accomplishments on a whim.
    Then they do even more of the same, with a bloody vindictiveness, with the NGE.

    On my recent odyssey through SWG I recently discovered all of my slicing supplies and components were outright deleted.

    Regarding the OP's point about inflation, it seems that with item decay gone and instances made more difficult, suits of "perfect" armor will drive around the 10s of millions range. The latter probably has a lot more affect on the price than anything.

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  • NGESUCKSNGESUCKS Member Posts: 153

    Im not sure whats more shocking what your telling me or that your actually playing it LOL.That whole beastmaster thing was a joke to begin with its not even a proffesion or class just a poorly done WOW talent tree ripoff and whats with the bright colors and  hardcore pokemon crap lol i thought it was bad before but not its like pink colored blue horned rancor i choose you!! WTF? What i would pay to kill this game off seriously i would pay monthly fee for this nugget of deer turd to be flushed so we could get a REAL star wars MMO non soe involved and little lucasarts as possible.

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  • LaterisLateris Member UncommonPosts: 1,848

    Try eve online. You might like it.

  • Esquire1980Esquire1980 Member UncommonPosts: 568

    I can believe all the OP said about BM.  It has been discussed via their forums many a time.

    What I can't believe is that they increase difficulty even further?  The PVE difficulty thread is at 64 pages the last time I saw it.  There are plenty of posts, on thier forums, about the C6CD running off what little player base they had and people screaming for server mergers or free transfers to get off the ghost servers.

    It would seem this is typical SOE mentality.  "If you do not like what we have done, you sure ain't gonna like this."  They almost HAVE to be trying to run people off now.

  • KenzeKenze Member UncommonPosts: 1,217

    I just recently gave SWG a go. Played for 3 month got a Jedi and a Commando to mid 30's Got a Structure Trader to 90. Never once found a group and would count the number of people i actually saw(not gold spammers) in the low 20's(over the whole 3 month period). Now Im sure there were quit a few cl90 guys off doing CL 90 stuff on worlds my little 30ish toons would die horribly and instantly on, but I really tried I kept LFG on, I searched for those LFG I traveled around  those planets I could, I shouted in the cities. NOT one group, NOT a single other person even with LFG tag on. I tried to like it and stick with it, I really did.

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  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278

    Originally posted by Kenze


     I tried to like it and stick with it, I really did.

    We all did at one point or another. Many people like to say us Vets are nothing but haters and are not giving it a chance. What those people fail to realize is we've given this game more chances than any normal company would get, let alone what any customer in any other market would give. It's a pretty strong IP that can bring that kind of loyalty (and blind devotion, of which I too was guilty). It takes some pretty stupid decisions to botch it up (I want to refrain from calling individuals stupid, but if you want to think it, I won't object).

    Man, it's been almost 2 years and I'm still angry...

  • stevesmithjrstevesmithjr Member Posts: 257

    /yawn /stretch *look kinda half eyed because the world is too bright*

    "Is it over yet? No? Alrighty, well, wake me up when it is..."

    /sleep /snore

    Classic SWG > CUNGE

  • StellosStellos Member UncommonPosts: 1,491

    LOL the game has been ruined.  However, thanks for the update.  It's always good to know that SWG is one step closer to death!  I just keep hoping for a remake with all the mistakes avoided.  But yes, this game is blown to hell at this point. 

  • LuRaviLuRavi Member UncommonPosts: 239

    Originally posted by xacova


    When is a jedi  not a jedi ? answer: in swg thats  when!   im sorry but a lev 90 jedi or any profession should be able to beat a lev 81 mob  fullstop. perhaps not an elite master just my opinion.
    as for the 99999999 over priced items  yes that just people using there vendors for storage reasons  that nothing new at all.
     
    But hey its good news if SOE keep screwing up  perhaps swg will close and a new one made by someone else will come out ! 
    So basically you want an IWIN pve button. No skill, no enjoyment of battle no reason. Just I am max level and Jedi I win, no contest.

    Your not playing a game, your simply farming and your the reason why MMOs suck and are not evolving into something enjoyable.

  • xacovaxacova Member Posts: 190

    Originally posted by LuRavi


     
    Originally posted by xacova


    When is a jedi  not a jedi ? answer: in swg thats  when!   im sorry but a lev 90 jedi or any profession should be able to beat a lev 81 mob  fullstop. perhaps not an elite master just my opinion.
    as for the 99999999 over priced items  yes that just people using there vendors for storage reasons  that nothing new at all.
     
    But hey its good news if SOE keep screwing up  perhaps swg will close and a new one made by someone else will come out ! 
    So basically you want an IWIN pve button. No skill, no enjoyment of battle no reason. Just I am max level and Jedi I win, no contest.

     

    Your not playing a game, your simply farming and your the reason why MMOs suck and are not evolving into something enjoyable.


    Blame me all you like for down fall of swg i left with the other 300,000 players, perhaps the reason that mmo's might suck is due to players like you Luravi funding under par crap and allowing soe and the likes to get away with it.

    By the way im no farmer, and i assure you when i played i was a skilled player and used decent tatics in pve and pvp and also there must be a point in a game where a player must be able to solo something and i dont think a lev 81 mob is that point.

    and  dont bother comming out with the i win button  line  that dont wash no more, clear your a jedi hater here hate me some more i was jedi pre-cu  as well, shame  they gave jedi away to lazy bandits like your self.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261
    Originally posted by xacova


    When is a jedi  not a jedi ? answer: in swg thats  when!   im sorry but a lev 90 jedi or any profession should be able to beat a lev 81 mob  fullstop. perhaps not an elite master just my opinion.
    as for the 99999999 over priced items  yes that just people using there vendors for storage reasons  that nothing new at all.
     
    But hey its good news if SOE keep screwing up  perhaps swg will close and a new one made by someone else will come out ! 

    The Jedi I know in game have no issues soloing most Mob's on their own...if the OP were to invest some time in their character they'd probably find the same thing ;)

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    If it meant  by  "starwarsy"  to make Jedi a joke, they ..succeed. Do i have to go all over why NGE Jedi arn't nearly Star Wars like ?

    some hints : starter prof , joke char abilities , joke  handicaps compared to ranged.....

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  • GrayKnightukGrayKnightuk Member UncommonPosts: 7

    I have been playing swg now for over 4 years and in that time i have watched friends disapear and yes i play a jedi. I loved the idea that jedi was something to aim for that you had to overcome obsticals and adversity ( though the hologrind nearly put paid to my chance of jedi) then they brough out the village what a differance that made to my time it was a brillient idea and while i completed 14 of the 11 unlocks needed to become a jedi yes i did more then was nessisary just failed to collect enough xp to get the final quest.

    I loved the idea that you could combine professions to make a unique character i was terris kai master/best master them tkm/doctor then they took that away from us to make thing less complated

    At the moment i would say iam a casual player i have a lvl 90 jedi i prefure pve but at moment i getting my arse kicked by the few npc i bother about and most pc i pvp against :P  yes it would be better if i didnt solo play but thats what i prefure so i guess i shouldnt whine about that

    but apart from all that i still love the game iam not on as much as i used to be but i doubt i will delete GrayKnt becouse he has brought me much fun and iam hoping for a change in dirction foir the better

    by way anyone know where there are any lootable default apperance boxs i miss the ones i had when they fixed the bug that made them

     

  • xPaladinxPaladin Member UncommonPosts: 741

    Originally posted by Obraik

    The Jedi I know in game have no issues soloing most Mob's on their own...if the OP were to invest some time in their character they'd probably find the same thing ;)

    It's most likely because they're highly itemized. One thing I'm experiencing in PvP thus far is that itemization is crucial and very expensive, thanks to CH6 and the difficulty increase. No offense intended, Obraik, but I do think you look through a rose colored lens on some issues, though it's probably through no fault of your own.

    You have the "lucky" advantage of a strong PA, as you repeatedly state. Joe Blow coming back into the game, on the other hand, has an uphill battle to fight unless they are lucky enough to find a very benevolent/experienced PA. Not many of those exist, even on populated servers. But, PA or not, unless they find a way to itemize they'll be ineffective compared to average players. Veteran loot/gear didn't convert very well and is easily outclassed by items crafted under the new system (surprise surprise). This is further exacerbated by the game mechanics favoring burst DPS (in the form of crits) over strategy.

    Yes, time investment solves everything -- but I don't see my main character becoming as competitive with other characters unless I invest most of my online and personal time in it (not an option), and that definitely won't be in the 21 days before the Vet period expires.

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