Huh, not sure what screenies you looked at... but to all their own, I know almost all of my buddies in RL love AC2's graphics... Screenshots do it little justice unless you have everything on high graphics levels.
I would say, start the DL when you go to bed & start it up, try it for a little bit, then post on the graphics
heh i cant yet .. my pc is busted .. and i need to hook it up to the internet .. right now im useing a mac but once my pc is hooked to the internet ill see what i can do ...
1,2 buckle my shoe 3,4 knock on the door 5,6 pick up sticks 7,8 GO AND SKATE !
Be that as it may; You realize that in AC1 there were no melee attacks other than 'high low middle' and variations of speed.
In AC1 anyone that didn't min/max was gimped, with no real way to ungimp themselves (until they added the quest to untrain); leading everyone to have the same spec's.
Yet you claim AC1 is soo much better. So your real point is that you can not loot other people, and you can not slaughter mobs as quickly (AC2 combat is not slow, it just takes awhile to kill something - two totally different things.).
So, AC2 is not for you - don't play it; I think I hear a Diablo 'trainer' calling you.
I could only stand this game for 3 days, when it was FREE. I played the free trial and thought it sucked.
1. No merchants add to this games design flaw and help to create its lack of depth.
2. I found there were only a few weapons I could use and that the game was scarecly populated.
3. The way of leveling and putting points into skills is BS. The skills are all lame along with the combat in this game. I would play ANY other mmorpg (TSO, AO, ANYTHING) besides this one.
Overall this game sucks and should never be played by anyone.
I buy from merchants all the time. Didn't you talk to anyone on the Trade channel? Or are you talking about NPC shopkeepers? Why buy a MMOG and ignore the humans? Might as well play a single player...
Theres more than "a few" weapons, especially with Crafting 2.0. You can get a weapon that will do almost anything now and totally customize the spells on it.
The way of leveling and putting points into skills is traditional in this type of game. What alternate system were you expecting??
Overall this game ROCKS and should be played by everyone.
Personaly i think this game sucks i have played for almost a week i signed up for the free trial and it just sucks, i started playing with a friend and soon found out this game had buggs then dogs have fleas. I mean i have been killed like 5 times just cause my friend gets STUCK on rocks and stuff and cant move jump doesnt help and you have to log in and out again to be able to move and by then i am very dead and he is alone deep in a vault/dungeon. I have also died in the water swiming a cuple of times hmmm who told me that swiming takes vigor and then health??LOL and i dont even get a warning like your health is low or something you just die!! Next i would like to take up the class/skill system the whole game is unbalanced casters haver more/same HP as melee tanks!! Human have more/same HP as Lugians i mean its a mess normaly tanks would have more HP then casters and BIG giant warrior races should have more HP then the tiny Humans. I have been stuck on stuff in dungeons and such and doomes both me and my friend many times also so it isnt just him. His computer crashes and so on..... The "guild" thing in AC2 sucks also lol "Monarch"?? And the "guild" members are called vassels i mean i rather stop playing a game then calling myself a vassel, and on top of that you give him xp?? The "mining" function SUCKS BAD either you can choose to specialize in Butchery and do the craft lvls during hunting or you can waste hour after hour hunting iron/wood/silver et.c with a MAP!!! One word content=KING this game is empty you can adventure for hours seeingt the same hills with the same mobs on ( the names difer LOL). The Dungeons and the Vaults take about 15 mins to do and after that??I have been in lvls were i couldent find a dungeon in my lvl to hunt in and who wants to run around the whole island looking for mobs in your own lvl! ahh and the coning system sucks also i have been killed by orange mobs like 10 times and in the same lvls killed red cons without even geting down to half of my health. I only got 1 good thing to say about this game AWSOME graphics.
Comments are very welcome, this is just my experiance of the game other ppl may find it different (maybe my years on EQ made me spoiled ).And sorry for the long post lol take care and travel safe.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
well your heath degenerates and it shows it on the bar... it says in the manual too....
osteth does have some rubberbanding issues
mining doesn't suck - you just suck at mining because your low level so its hard for you with all the monsters
it doesn't have that many bugs
the game isn't balanced on health stats until lv 50 - until then its based on the equipment that your character can equip. Turbine took a different approach than the average mmorpg with this. The skills that the professional classes have also reflects their amount of hp. For example, the Human defender has lots of strong heals and defensive buffs (which keeps them alive longer) compared to the alchemist class which has lots of high damage dealing skills that allow it to throw out damage faster than other classes. Not all games have to follow the Everbore template.
this game has more content in its pinky than everquest has with 9 expansion packs - plus we get ours free.
the guild system is awesome. It awards both vassles and patrons. I'm a vassle but my title is Lord and I like that .
The leveling is very fast at low levels so yes the early dungeons are very easy. That was done on purpose to entice casual gamers. Most of the quests take several hours to complete.
Everquest has TONS of mobs that are identical with different name changes.. so do most mmorpgs so I dont understand why you are being so critical on that point.
You are getting killed by some orange monsters but not some red monsters because of your base profession. Evidentally you didn't see that because you believe that all types are the same in this game.
Yes I do think that your Everquest has made you want every mmorpg to follow the Everquest template. For me I couldn't stand the endless sitting in Everquest and feeling like everything I did was meaningless. Ac2 gives me the fast and exciting combat that I expect from my games as well as free new content that is very fun.
Some people just like to nit pick at games weaknesses. However that isn't how someone should pick a game because every game has weaknesses and things it could be better at. The way to choose a game is to find a game where it's strengths are what you enjoy to do. Asheron's Call 2 isn't for everyone, but it sure is the game for me. After all the MMO games I've played, I found Asheron's Call 2 to be the best overall game experience. Sure there are things I don't like about it, but it's strengths far out weigh its weaknesses. And that is why I enjoy this game so much.
Currently Playing: AC2, WW2Online, SWG
Retired: Everquest, DAoC
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"Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's azz by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?" - Tommy Boy
Storm thanks alot for the info and the explaining, i dont want to nag but if the HP dif doesnt get balanced until lvl 50 then what good are the melee characters in a group?I mean casters outdamage warriors by far off what i have seen anyway i have seen casters in my lvl solo places that i barely solo like 3 lvls later .You are probably right about the mining it wasnt as it used to be and i didnt like so i bitch about it sorry . If the skills also reflects the HP ( i know professional skills) then it should say just that, so that warriors dont think they are being done an injustice as i did .
I agree that EQ have little content but for original EQ and Kunark the first expansion was good. AC2's contesnt are also more easily accesable which a good thing.
Lord wow that sounds realy cool .
EQ has tons of mobs with same names this is true but their mobs are in one place like Crushbone where there are orcs and there are a cuple outside alos but mainly thats where they are. In AC2 the same mobs are everywhere you can travel through the whole island you will stil se the same mobs. In EQ you can travel 1 or 2 zones are you wont se the mobs again in a long time or if you go back.
I agree that EQ was way to much sitting but i didnt feel like it was meaningsless myself, i alsmot never sat camping in those boring PL places where all the other guys were. I was exploring the continents with my rag tag band of friends which gave a much better adrenaline kick then sitting camping good xp mobs like you prolly did.
You make good points and the game is prolly real good but it isnt my style, i am going WoW because i know SOE sucks!!
And one good point EQ has over AC is that the buggs aint geting you killed.
Anyway thanks for the reply and take care!
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Casters outdamage warriors in AC2? Are you sure you are playing the right game? From the 30's on, serkers are the damage dealers over everyone else. Ferals and Defenders can solo due to their tanking abilities. Casters are debuffers and healers, not damage dealers. Sure they can solo, but not mobs meless can't solo.
Originally posted by tomken48 Casters outdamage warriors in AC2? Are you sure you are playing the right game? From the 30's on, serkers are the damage dealers over everyone else. Ferals and Defenders can solo due to their tanking abilities. Casters are debuffers and healers, not damage dealers. Sure they can solo, but not mobs meless can't solo.
Isnt Invokers what you will call a "caster"??? They are damage dealers if they go the GM line aint they? Yes they are... darn god ones if i might say! Can easyly keep ther vit in combat, and rearly need to be healed couse of the distance. They are to close to be attacked whit missile shots, and whit summoned creatures kepping the mobs away from the melee attacks, can they use ther consentration on damage dealing themselfs... Lets say a lvl 50 invoker whit two lvl 50 brats, and master: 100-300 damage/sec, and the invoker 200-500 damage/ every 1-4 secs. Is a preaty nice Damega Dealer... Im a lvl 51 invoker whit (drum; 315 damage), and i "killed" one of the dummyes in the allyhall in under 2 minuts (25000 hitpoints) - dont think a serker can do that at lvl 51! no matter if he got two 400+ damage swords!!!
Not flaming or anything, just commenting on casters vs pet-casters
I dont think you can really call an invoker a pure casting class.. what sort of dmg do you do without yer pets?? THEN try to take on a zerker... That is like an elementalist saying how their dmg is from casting... NOPE, their pets do MUCH MUCH more dmg than the caster themselves actually do.
I think what he was referring to as casters are sorc's, chanters, sage, healer. If I am wrong so be it...
FYI, a zerker will take WAY under 2mins to take down a drudge at lvl 51... heck, by doing their AoE's they could easily take down 2 of the 3 straw drudges in less than 2 mins. Testing out my buddies lvl 52 zerker, he takes off from the drudge in 1 line(the 3 hit, 4hit, 5 hit, & 6hit) in appx time 10-15 secs about 8k hp... & can completely kill the drudge with using wellspring 1 time.
Anyways, just saw this & had to comment
I am however VERY interested in the invoker rewrite...
well, if you are on TD, we'll meet up & have a race ...
I last night tested my lvl 51 elem against a lvl 51 zerker and I lost by a hair... thats a lvl 55 fiend, & lvl 55 warrior & a lvl 46 tstorm with enraged pets and the zerker barely beat me out on it.. And I havn't had a voker outdmg me on a regular basis yet when playing my elem... so, maybe I'm wrong, but I would have to be proven wrong to believe it
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Huh, not sure what screenies you looked at... but to all their own, I know almost all of my buddies in RL love AC2's graphics... Screenshots do it little justice unless you have everything on high graphics levels.
I would say, start the DL when you go to bed & start it up, try it for a little bit, then post on the graphics
heh i cant yet .. my pc is busted .. and i need to hook it up to the internet .. right now im useing a mac
but once my pc is hooked to the internet ill see what i can do ...
1,2 buckle my shoe 3,4 knock on the door 5,6 pick up sticks
7,8 GO AND SKATE !
without life we'd be dead.
Sounds like a winner!
Have to hate it when you have PC problems tho
Hope you get them straightened out soon.
And you wonder why your account was banned . . .
Be that as it may; You realize that in AC1 there were no melee attacks other than 'high low middle' and variations of speed.
In AC1 anyone that didn't min/max was gimped, with no real way to ungimp themselves (until they added the quest to untrain); leading everyone to have the same spec's.
Yet you claim AC1 is soo much better. So your real point is that you can not loot other people, and you can not slaughter mobs as quickly (AC2 combat is not slow, it just takes awhile to kill something - two totally different things.).
So, AC2 is not for you - don't play it; I think I hear a Diablo 'trainer' calling you.
What will he do next?
Why this game sucks...
I could only stand this game for 3 days, when it was FREE. I played the free trial and thought it sucked.
1. No merchants add to this games design flaw and help to create its lack of depth.
2. I found there were only a few weapons I could use and that the game was scarecly populated.
3. The way of leveling and putting points into skills is BS. The skills are all lame along with the combat in this game. I would play ANY other mmorpg (TSO, AO, ANYTHING) besides this one.
Overall this game sucks and should never be played by anyone.
I buy from merchants all the time. Didn't you talk to anyone on the Trade channel? Or are you talking about NPC shopkeepers? Why buy a MMOG and ignore the humans? Might as well play a single player...
Theres more than "a few" weapons, especially with Crafting 2.0. You can get a weapon that will do almost anything now and totally customize the spells on it.
The way of leveling and putting points into skills is traditional in this type of game. What alternate system were you expecting??
Overall this game ROCKS and should be played by everyone.
Personaly i think this game sucks i have played for almost a week i signed up for the free trial and it just sucks, i started playing with a friend and soon found out this game had buggs then dogs have fleas. I mean i have been killed like 5 times just cause my friend gets STUCK on rocks and stuff and cant move jump doesnt help and you have to log in and out again to be able to move and by then i am very dead and he is alone deep in a vault/dungeon. I have also died in the water swiming a cuple of times hmmm who told me that swiming takes vigor and then health??LOL and i dont even get a warning like your health is low or something you just die!! Next i would like to take up the class/skill system the whole game is unbalanced casters haver more/same HP as melee tanks!! Human have more/same HP as Lugians i mean its a mess normaly tanks would have more HP then casters and BIG giant warrior races should have more HP then the tiny Humans. I have been stuck on stuff in dungeons and such and doomes both me and my friend many times also so it isnt just him. His computer crashes and so on..... The "guild" thing in AC2 sucks also lol "Monarch"?? And the "guild" members are called vassels i mean i rather stop playing a game then calling myself a vassel, and on top of that you give him xp?? The "mining" function SUCKS BAD either you can choose to specialize in Butchery and do the craft lvls during hunting or you can waste hour after hour hunting iron/wood/silver et.c with a MAP!!! One word content=KING this game is empty you can adventure for hours seeingt the same hills with the same mobs on ( the names difer LOL). The Dungeons and the Vaults take about 15 mins to do and after that??I have been in lvls were i couldent find a dungeon in my lvl to hunt in and who wants to run around the whole island looking for mobs in your own lvl! ahh and the coning system sucks also i have been killed by orange mobs like 10 times and in the same lvls killed red cons without even geting down to half of my health. I only got 1 good thing to say about this game AWSOME graphics.
Comments are very welcome, this is just my experiance of the game other ppl may find it different (maybe my years on EQ made me spoiled
).And sorry for the long post lol take care and travel safe.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
well your heath degenerates and it shows it on the bar... it says in the manual too....
osteth does have some rubberbanding issues
mining doesn't suck - you just suck at mining because your low level so its hard for you with all the monsters
it doesn't have that many bugs
the game isn't balanced on health stats until lv 50 - until then its based on the equipment that your character can equip. Turbine took a different approach than the average mmorpg with this. The skills that the professional classes have also reflects their amount of hp. For example, the Human defender has lots of strong heals and defensive buffs (which keeps them alive longer) compared to the alchemist class which has lots of high damage dealing skills that allow it to throw out damage faster than other classes. Not all games have to follow the Everbore template.
this game has more content in its pinky than everquest has with 9 expansion packs - plus we get ours free.
the guild system is awesome. It awards both vassles and patrons. I'm a vassle but my title is Lord and I like that
.
The leveling is very fast at low levels so yes the early dungeons are very easy. That was done on purpose to entice casual gamers. Most of the quests take several hours to complete.
Everquest has TONS of mobs that are identical with different name changes.. so do most mmorpgs so I dont understand why you are being so critical on that point.
You are getting killed by some orange monsters but not some red monsters because of your base profession. Evidentally you didn't see that because you believe that all types are the same in this game.
Yes I do think that your Everquest has made you want every mmorpg to follow the Everquest template. For me I couldn't stand the endless sitting in Everquest and feeling like everything I did was meaningless. Ac2 gives me the fast and exciting combat that I expect from my games as well as free new content that is very fun.
~Yiir~
~Yiir~
Currently Playing:
AC2, WW2Online, SWG
Retired:
Everquest, DAoC
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Currently Playing: Eve-Online
On the Backburner: EQ2
Retired: EQ, DAoC, WW2Online
RIP: AC2
Tried: Ryzom, Roma Victor, RoM, KH2, Forsaken World, AO, AoC, APB
Quit: SWG PRE-CU(Radiant/Starsider), WoW
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It's a fact that many AC1 addicts didn't care for ac2, but it's not a bad game because it's different.
IMO they are a little different genre of game. I prefer ac2 because ac1 is outdated, and it'd be nice
to see the ac1 crew support ac2 being a turbine family.
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Storm thanks alot for the info and the explaining, i dont want to nag
but if the HP dif doesnt get balanced until lvl 50 then what good are the melee characters in a group?I mean casters outdamage warriors by far off what i have seen anyway i have seen casters in my lvl solo places that i barely solo like 3 lvls later 
.You are probably right about the mining it wasnt as it used to be and i didnt like so i bitch about it sorry 
. If the skills also reflects the HP ( i know professional skills) then it should say just that, so that warriors dont think they are being done an injustice as i did 
.
I agree that EQ have little content but for original EQ and Kunark the first expansion was good. AC2's contesnt are also more easily accesable which a good thing.
Lord wow that sounds realy cool
.
EQ has tons of mobs with same names this is true but their mobs are in one place like Crushbone where there are orcs and there are a cuple outside alos but mainly thats where they are. In AC2 the same mobs are everywhere you can travel through the whole island you will stil se the same mobs. In EQ you can travel 1 or 2 zones are you wont se the mobs again in a long time or if you go back.
I agree that EQ was way to much sitting but i didnt feel like it was meaningsless myself, i alsmot never sat camping in those boring PL places where all the other guys were. I was exploring the continents with my rag tag band of friends which gave a much better adrenaline kick then sitting camping good xp mobs like you prolly did.
You make good points and the game is prolly real good but it isnt my style, i am going WoW because i know SOE sucks!!
And one good point EQ has over AC is that the buggs aint geting you killed.
Anyway thanks for the reply and take care!
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Hukkan Leafstorm explorer of the world of Norrath.
Hitpoints isn't what defines a tank. Their shield and their skills do. Don't worry about the balance between mages and melees, it's not a problem.
They are damage dealers if they go the GM line aint they? Yes they are...
darn god ones if i might say! Can easyly keep ther vit in combat, and rearly need to be healed couse of the distance. They are to close to be attacked whit missile shots, and whit summoned creatures kepping the mobs away from the melee attacks, can they use ther consentration on damage dealing themselfs...
Lets say a lvl 50 invoker whit two lvl 50 brats, and master: 100-300 damage/sec, and the invoker 200-500 damage/ every 1-4 secs. Is a preaty nice Damega Dealer...
Im a lvl 51 invoker whit (drum; 315 damage), and i "killed" one of the dummyes in the allyhall in under 2 minuts (25000 hitpoints) - dont think a serker can do that at lvl 51! no matter if he got two 400+ damage swords!!!
"Casters" can solo and do alot of damage!
~Yiir~
~Yiir~
Not flaming or anything, just commenting on casters vs pet-casters
I dont think you can really call an invoker a pure casting class.. what sort of dmg do you do without yer pets?? THEN try to take on a zerker... That is like an elementalist saying how their dmg is from casting... NOPE, their pets do MUCH MUCH more dmg than the caster themselves actually do.
I think what he was referring to as casters are sorc's, chanters, sage, healer. If I am wrong so be it...
FYI, a zerker will take WAY under 2mins to take down a drudge at lvl 51... heck, by doing their AoE's they could easily take down 2 of the 3 straw drudges in less than 2 mins. Testing out my buddies lvl 52 zerker, he takes off from the drudge in 1 line(the 3 hit, 4hit, 5 hit, & 6hit) in appx time 10-15 secs about 8k hp... & can completely kill the drudge with using wellspring 1 time.
Anyways, just saw this & had to comment
I am however VERY interested in the invoker rewrite...
You are absolutly right about the "none pet part"
But a zerker vs. invoker whit pets = 0-1 to the invoker
~Yiir~
~Yiir~
well, if you are on TD, we'll meet up & have a race
...
I last night tested my lvl 51 elem against a lvl 51 zerker and I lost by a hair... thats a lvl 55 fiend, & lvl 55 warrior & a lvl 46 tstorm with enraged pets and the zerker barely beat me out on it.. And I havn't had a voker outdmg me on a regular basis yet when playing my elem... so, maybe I'm wrong, but I would have to be proven wrong to believe it
Damn!... ther are going to redo the entire invoker skill tree
after this ther will be no more soloing 4 the invoker 
Think i quite the game this time!
~Yiir~
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