Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Pre-Cu servers back, would you return.... but
Gutboy
Member Posts: 630
If Sony brought back pre-cu servers, intergrated all the new content the game has today.............................
but took out any and all Jedi and prevented anyone from ever being a Jedi would you play?
Comments
if i could hunt down people as a bounty hunter!!! (when do i get payed!)
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
As long as any of the intergated content does not include a loot based economy and the nerfation of crafters and ents, I certainly would give it a try. The only Jedi should be NPC Jedi to kick players' backsides in combat!
I might play pre-cu for free if I ever had the chance and if it had additional content I might stay longer. I wouldn't want to pay, because I expect I wouldn't make it a month before I'd say: "meh, I've done this". The real problem is I'd be going places I've been and the people I need to be there wouldn't be. No guild of old friends = no SWG. $OE lost all of us due to "customer service" abuse long before CU or NGE...I just got tired of being pissed at them all the time and nothing changing and left when customer service wouldn't help me with an in game issue with a vendor.
You make it sound like a condition to play it without Jedi when in fact I would insist on no Jedi.
There were thousands of good, viable ideas on the SWG forums to make Jedi the alpha class, but not so powerful that everyone and their grandma would be grinding to it. But developers lack imagination, and brainpower to do something truley revolutionary and interesting. So I guess they just go around breaking copywrite laws by plageurizing WOW.
Not at this point. First off they won't do it. Secondly, by the time they did do it the emu will be done, and given any choice I will choose NOT to support SOE.
6 months, a year ago, a year ago, yes I would have. Not now, I'm playing Eve which will either keep me for good (especially with it's upcoming avatars and ground game) , or at least until the emu hits.
EVE is a great game, I've played it myself, (Although there will not be a 'ground game' so to speak, you'll just be able to walk your character around spacestations etc. I don't want to mention the EMU here, as i know how LA is about its trademarks and copyrights.
One way or another, Pre-CU is going to be the only SWG within the next year.
With how fast the subs are falling again, I see development of the current live game to slow even more or even stop completely by the end of the year.
It's not Star Wars without Jedi. It's just not.
The main characters in the movies were Jedi. The game is based off of the movies.
I know there are books and comics about other characters... fair enough. But this game is just another 'sci-fi' game without Jedi.
I highly doubt I would play. Jedi was a goal. It was something to strive for. There isn't anything like that now.
yes i would. Jedi should never have been a player profession. Ruins the immersion factor. i would greatly prefer a no jedi server
Shouldn't make this a Jedi or no Jedi discussion. No good will ever get out of that discussion
I would reactive atleast one of my accounts. No doubt. Would I be as active as I was before? doubt it.
Playing on a private server (emu) will never be the same, and I don't think I will trust any private driven (free) server to be stable enough for me to invest time in it.
--
Leemeg.
For many vets it's already to late, but I also think there's still a large amount of players left that would return to a pre-CU SWG. For instance, I'm one of those that would go back right now. However, my patience won't last forever. SOE needs to act NOW or even the hopeless ones (like myself...) will walk away from SWG to never look back again.
no, the game is dead just let it die. There is no point to drag a dead horse around the town.
SWG setting: 1 known Sith (Vader), 1 Force sensitive (Luke) who is training himself with lightsaber and exploring his abilities
Second movie, The Empire Strikes Back: 1 Jedi (Yoda), 2 Sith (Vader and Emperor), 1 Padawan (Luke), 1 Force sensitive (Leia)
Third movie, Return of the Jedi: 2 Jedi (Yoda and Luke), 2 Sith (Vader and Emperor), 1 Force sensitive (Leia)
That there are massive numbers of Jedi before and after this period is not relevant, nor is the assertion that are many Jedi living in hiding at the time. They are not seen or heard of in the movies, and should not be in the game either. That said, I would have no objection to seeing the Village in a returned pre-CU game (ha ha ha); the quests were a load of fun and desperately-needed content, and the Force skills were also a nice addition. It might also be fun to have the Village quests leading to Force Adept professions: fill any 4 branches and you can get 1 of several Force Adept boxes, each with a handful of various Force abilities and a saber weapon cert. If 1 branch was in Force Crafting, you could get Lightsaber schematics (using Weaponsmith assembly/experimentation). You would not be a Jedi, though I expect the Empire would ignore such fine distinctions and apply Order 66 to you anyway.
SWG was my first MMO and i loved it, Pre CU, I met great people and had a great experience but if they brought back pre cu I wouldnt go back, why? Its in the past, and theres new stuff coming out that I am looking forward to, things change and its time to move on.
A man dies daily, only to be reborn in the morning, bigger, better and wiser.
-Playing AoC
-Playing WoW
-Retired- SWG
-Retired- EVE
-Retired- LotR
Computer (- Phenom 9600 Black Edition @ 2.81 Ghz (Quad Core CPU)- Gigabyte MA790FX-DS5 - 4 Gigs of PC 8500 ram (1066)- EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS PCI Express 2.0 - WD 500GB 7500RPM - Zalman CPU cooler (air cooled)
- 24" Widescreen 1080P HD display).
Without a substantial change in the way SOE operates, and more importantly, treats their customers, no I would not play SWG, or any other SOE related game. Since the current management of SOE thinks that acknowledging their problems and holding a few 'We really care about what you think! No, we really mean it this time! Seriously!' events, without doing anything of actual substance to change what they acknowledge is wrong with the way they treat their customers, is the same as fixing the problem, I don't see any substantive changes occurring without a substantial change in the company's management. The dwindling number of people paying to play SOE games has caused them to only go so far as to give lip service to their problems. With the current folks in charge of the company, I think the company would have to fold before they actually would be willing to do anything about what is wrong with their company.
Unfortunately, if the company did actually fold, the folks in management would end up dispersed in other current companies, along with several of them doing their own start-ups, which would just make all of what is wrong with SOE much more widespread. Really, the best thing the majority of the folks who work at SOE could do for the gaming industry, and those of us who are gamers, would be to find jobs outside the gaming industry.
SWG setting: 1 known Sith (Vader), 1 Force sensitive (Luke) who is training himself with lightsaber and exploring his abilities
Second movie, The Empire Strikes Back: 1 Jedi (Yoda), 2 Sith (Vader and Emperor), 1 Padawan (Luke), 1 Force sensitive (Leia)
Third movie, Return of the Jedi: 2 Jedi (Yoda and Luke), 2 Sith (Vader and Emperor), 1 Force sensitive (Leia)
That there are massive numbers of Jedi before and after this period is not relevant, nor is the assertion that are many Jedi living in hiding at the time. They are not seen or heard of in the movies, and should not be in the game either. That said, I would have no objection to seeing the Village in a returned pre-CU game (ha ha ha); the quests were a load of fun and desperately-needed content, and the Force skills were also a nice addition. It might also be fun to have the Village quests leading to Force Adept professions: fill any 4 branches and you can get 1 of several Force Adept boxes, each with a handful of various Force abilities and a saber weapon cert. If 1 branch was in Force Crafting, you could get Lightsaber schematics (using Weaponsmith assembly/experimentation). You would not be a Jedi, though I expect the Empire would ignore such fine distinctions and apply Order 66 to you anyway.
That is how the whole Force thing should have been dealt with in the game from the start. The fiction of the game's universe would have been left intact, and marketing would have gotten their glowsticks. Had development spent much less time trying to find the one big change that could be made to Jedi that would cause a million people to flock to the game, and instead spent much more time adding content to the game, they would have had a much better chance of increasing the playerbase. Then again, considering almost all of the non-Jedi development time was spent tweaking and nerfing professions, we would likely have only received more tweaks and nerfs, still leading to two unwanted game destroying revamps.
Well stated!
the vets dont want to have to reroll and lose their phat l00tz im sure.
Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.
I have to side with the OP on this one.........
Jedi have to be removed period. They are the reason the game started spiraling downward in the first place. Having an alpha class unbalances a game. I would not have been averse to having some force sensitive points for people who earned it but to have a bunch of overpowered Jedi running all over is ridiculous and it ruined the economy and diversity the game had before they came along.
Perhaps if they had retained the original concept of player jedi as a random occurrence instead of a profession grind and had stuck with perma death then it would have been acceptable. As soon as the masses started grinding their way to alpha status the game hit the skids and the result of those lost subscriptions is the NGE.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
Jedi=Star Wars.
They have to be there.
That said, Jedi should have been risk/reward, as they once were. Also, those who complained about Jedi mostly in my experience were those unwilling to do the work.
Even so, Jedi were always beatable to those who put forth the effort. TKA/Doc for example...
Keep the village as is.
Remove the Aurillia grind, and shorten the XP, so that Jedis aren't really longer to train than any normal profession...
Keep the FRS so as to make sure those Jedis are busy on some quiet, remote planets.
Any character that goes beyond padawan immediately loses its faction, and can't join one again until they've untrained padawan.
Problem solved.
Was it that hard ? That complex ? Nope.
"Peace through superior firepower"
jedi made the game worse period. was 2 jedi and 2 sith during the games time period. Instead we had 1000's of players grinding for one alpha class while the rest of the game went to shit.
I'd go back and I think a lot of others would as well. I don't see it happening, but if in some bizzaro world it happened I would go back to SWG.
On the Jedi issue, I would allow Jedi as a regular played class. Nerf them so they are no better than any other combat class and then were good. Jedi are a large part of the SWG universe, and playing as one is some people's idea of a Star Wars game. But, there is no reason they have to be more powerful than your average player. A little nerf and a small divation from canon is acceptable for the purposes of game balance.
I think this dead horse has been beat enough.
Raven