That's the problem with a game that isn't based on skill or ability, only the amount of time you've been subscribed.
this is the most ignorant thing i have seen in a long time.
this 'problem' is the great joy, any player can sopecialise and cartch up with a long term player easily due to the structure of the skill system. also the youngest noob can fight and make a difference in a gang against older players.
and if you believe that skill has nothing to do with things pick up a long an old well trained character (there are legitamet and illigitamate ways to do so) then try and play the game, you will fail.
What it will take him a couple of days? Point and click, and look at the market real close, and a New player can master Eve in a 40 million SP character. Eve is nothing but the Best items, on the Best ship, and Point and click. No dodging, no tactics, just the knowledge of what things can and can not do.
de..de..deeee.. thats every MMO.
However, unlike most MMOs, this one has strategy and risk. You can't and wont beat every ship with one ship, some ships are better than other ships at certain circumstances. Go play a FPS please.
I would love to know what other MMO out there does not require you to "spend time" to have fun in ? Seriously name one were you just jump in and don't need to "spend time" to have some good PvP fun and get to know your role?
DAOC.
Really so you start pvping at level 1 in same fashion as level 50 in daoc ? Sorry but I highly doubt it.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
i just don't understand this, there is a game that can hold your interest for three and a half years, but you want it all right now? Good grief, if you have everything within a month of grinding you will be bored in 3 months.
A month of grinding?
I'm bored after 5 minutes of grinding. Too many games on the shelf to waste my time.
I have played 1 year and some months and this was the reasons to leave the game
- Skill based games are funny. Skill learning over time, not.
- It is not based on grinding to progress with your character. Except if you are talking about money. Yes, you can be a trader, but that way of making money needs a lot of knownledge about Offer and Demand (more than usual in other games, it's almost like the real world).
The other ways to make money are mining belts or killing rats repetitively
- PVP is too expensive. Yes, you can use tech I ships, but you won't get good results with them. And tech II ships are more expensive and hard to pilot (due to skills)
- The big wars are too boring. Hold the position during 1 hour or so while you see your ship shooting to an inmobile object like a POS is too boring. And, in fleet battles, you spend most of your time hearing your fleet commander and waiting the order to warp to somewhere to shoot the enemy and then go back. And this battles usually need several hours until they end.
- Missions can be boring. The PVE missions and the transport missions.
Anyway, this game is certainly original and it isn't a clone of WoW-like games
What it will take him a couple of days? Point and click, and look at the market real close, and a New player can master Eve in a 40 million SP character. Eve is nothing but the Best items, on the Best ship, and Point and click. No dodging, no tactics, just the knowledge of what things can and can not do.
Wow dude you no nothing about what eve really is. There ships with the big guns would be nothing with out the newbies in the small tackler ship stoping the enemy from running. Play the game for more then the 14 day trial before you begin to comment on the gameplay. EVE is the only MMORPG thats really given me an adrenilene rush. Mounths of work can be gone with just on missle. This is the only game ware im aculley afraid to die.
Eve is almost like chess I love it kids or players who are more into mashing buttons or playing 18 hrs a day and getting great gear to massacre noobs then eve not for you.
I wanted to repost an old recruitment post from another forum I made when I started the game almost 2 years ago. This post can show you the merits of a new person and the fun you can have without having any skills. This was before they released the patched that put new players from 30k skillpoints to 900k which it is now. I dont play anymore but the thoght of going back pulls at me. Anyways.. here is the story..
---------
As a 2 month new player to Eve and corp member of Eve university I can vouch for this corp and alliance and say it will provide for any type of gameplay experience you like with no strings attached.
I joined and within 3 weeks there was a war declared on our alliance by a top notch mercenary group. I had never ventured to our 0.0 space and was just puddling my way through empire missions and the like. Well not having any training as of yet and being green to most everything I was a early casualty of war and lost my most expensive(battlecruiser) ship in Empire space. The corp was kind enough to cover a sizable chunk of my loss even though I had insurance without me asking or anything.
Next day they put forth all hands on deck type message for all pilots who wanted to come to our station in 0.0 and take part in military defense and operations. I had never been to 0.0 and this was all new to me. It was not safe for me to stay in empire so I went for the experience and to take part in the war. Euni provided us with basic tackling frigs and modules and I volunteered at every opportunity. When things were clear of hostiles vets in the alliance took us out ratting in 0.0 but went over all the basic strats of instas, bookmarks, tackling, proper overview setups, safespots, alligning etc etc.. All things that would come in handy for me on my ops.
The stage was set and I got to go on an op to chase down some hostiles war targets in Empire space near our 0.0 home. Well after some cat and mouse chases by the gates we finally uncloaked a cov ops pilot of theirs. The chase was on! The adrenaline rush was insane. I hit my mwd, got into close orbit range, got the web and scrambler down and laid into the target with my gang. To my great surprise the covert pilot was the very same one who started the engagement with me a few days before and took out my BC! Oh was it sweet revenge to lay the final blow on him
wow! Romble from eve u I was in your class that focused in correctly setting up your overview window I´m sure the current students of eve uni would love to have you back
I was thinking about getting back into EVE. Not sure if my character is still there or not. Need to know who to team with. I think that was the problem the first time around. No one to play with.
"And thus I clothe my naked villany/ with old odd ends stolen forth from holy writ/ and seem a saint when most I play the devil." Shakespeare's Richard III Act I Scene 3.
It helps a great deal to post on the official forums and get involved with the community in some way. Even if its just to post that you're looking for a certain type of corp. You're not expected to join the first one that offers, so make sure you do some research on each one if possible before joining so that you can pick the best one for you yourself.
I have played a lot of mmo's. Probably too many considering the bad taste in mouth still lingering long after Vanguard. I am pretty ruthless with how I spend my time online and so most games only last 1-3 months tops. So 3.5 years later I am still playing EVE Online, paying 2 full accounts and yesterday's gameplay sums up why:
I have been almost the exact same way for the past few years.. I've played over 20 different MMO's and none seem to keep my interest longer then 3 months.. I've always wanted to play EVE. You may have just gave me the final nudge to get me over the edge of doing so.
As for adrenalin rush, Tibia was probably the last game I was fully addicted to, Until the later Updates. I loved the Rush that game gave you. It was awesome.
I would love to know what other MMO out there does not require you to "spend time" to have fun in ? Seriously name one were you just jump in and don't need to "spend time" to have some good PvP fun and get to know your role?
DAOC.
Sorry but it takes 'months' to get enough uber lewt/artifacts/MLs etc etc just to even get an invite into a decent PvP group. To complete a DAoC template you would need about a year. Even classic with the expansions gear, it isnt a few days work.
I have been playing EVE for just lil over a month now. I have a outfitted drake with some tech II. I'm doing .4 Complexes (yes, I'm finding complexes with no Astrometrics skill, just takes lil more time to find them), I'm doing level 3's soon to do 4s, I have 6 ships i use for different aspects of the game (Osprey-mining, kestrel-scouting, Cormant-salvaging, Caracal-rat hunting, Drake- PVP/Complexes/missioning, Badger for Hauling stuff around to sell). You can do every aspect of the game, as soon as you start playing you just won't do it as effectively as a higher skillpoint guy. I have been doing all aspects of the game, exploration, salvaging, mining, pvp and missioning. I only have 2mil SP, but i still can do everything in the game that I want to. Just is lil tougher and have to watch out for the big dogs with higher sp... When you start playing eve, you can go mine stuff or blowup stuff and it will be useful to a new guy or someone that has been playing for awhile. There is no levels. Anything that you obtain at day one, you could possibly use 1-2 years into the game.
EVE is a very complex game. I almost gave up on it. But if you sit down and learn the game there is quite a bit to do out there even with low skillpoints. Just like WoW, you can't be the best within a month of play. Hell, It takes about 2 months to get to 70 then after that you have to raid over and over and over again to get gear to be worth a damn.
Most EVE players frown on people that have played WOW. I played WoW and liked it. I play EVE and like it. Both games are good, they are just different types of mmos. If you don't like EVE don't play it. If you don't like WoW don't play it. Too each his own.
That's the problem with a game that isn't based on skill or ability, only the amount of time you've been subscribed.
this is the most ignorant thing i have seen in a long time.
this 'problem' is the great joy, any player can sopecialise and cartch up with a long term player easily due to the structure of the skill system. also the youngest noob can fight and make a difference in a gang against older players.
and if you believe that skill has nothing to do with things pick up a long an old well trained character (there are legitamet and illigitamate ways to do so) then try and play the game, you will fail.
What it will take him a couple of days? Point and click, and look at the market real close, and a New player can master Eve in a 40 million SP character. Eve is nothing but the Best items, on the Best ship, and Point and click. No dodging, no tactics, just the knowledge of what things can and can not do.
When one doesn't know what one is talking about one should keep their opinions to themselves. There is no way that a brand new player could even BEGIN to 'master' EVE in 'a couple days'. The market varies from region to region. The market varies based on the political and military situation in 0.0. The market varies based upon the influence of minor changes in game mechanics and/or the discovery of new tactics in the game.
And that's just the market, you haven't even grazed the surface of the game if all you care about is the market.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I would love to know what other MMO out there does not require you to "spend time" to have fun in ? Seriously name one were you just jump in and don't need to "spend time" to have some good PvP fun and get to know your role?
DAOC.
You obviously don't play DAOC
First you have to grind to 50... even if you have good friends power levelling you it'll take you a good 2 or 3 weeks to do this.
Then you have to grind through your master levels.... easily another 3-4 weeks, possibly longer....
Then you have to get your champ gear/levels etc.
Then you have to get all the epic equipment
Next you need to manage to get to realm rank 4 or higher to really be worth a crap in PVP.
2 years ago yeah, you could get into pvp in DAOC fairly quickly. But like every other MMORPG on the planet it takes TIME to catch up to the top elite players. Except that in EVE you are NEEDED in PVP from the time you can fly a decently fitted tackling frigate/interceptor (about 2-4 weeks of play).
I played DAOC for years, and was in THE premier guild on my server. Don't even try to say that you can just jump into DAOC and be competitive 'quickly' in PVP.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
You obviously don't play DAOC First you have to grind to 50... even if you have good friends power levelling you it'll take you a good 2 or 3 weeks to do this. Then you have to grind through your master levels.... easily another 3-4 weeks, possibly longer.... Then you have to get your champ gear/levels etc. Then you have to get all the epic equipment Next you need to manage to get to realm rank 4 or higher to really be worth a crap in PVP. 2 years ago yeah, you could get into pvp in DAOC fairly quickly. But like every other MMORPG on the planet it takes TIME to catch up to the top elite players. Except that in EVE you are NEEDED in PVP from the time you can fly a decently fitted tackling frigate/interceptor (about 2-4 weeks of play). I played DAOC for years, and was in THE premier guild on my server. Don't even try to say that you can just jump into DAOC and be competitive 'quickly' in PVP.
Can I just add that in WoW it took me nearly two years of mind numbing RAIDING to actually be kitted out in amazingly good epics and be top of my game in PvP.
I can't understand why people think that just because Eve takes a while to get into Tech 2 ships etc is so different from them. Plus in WoW you are expected to grind Alterac Valley for Honour or grind Gruul's Lair for epics or SSC etc in your OWN TIME, so basically you login and can spend upwards of 12hrs grinding those things, while in Eve the system allows you the freedom to do WHATEVER YOU PLS, whilst your skills are training
Not any MMORPG's I know of that allow you to do whatever you want whilst grinding....
Because other games like WoW hold the hand of the new player a lot better than EVE. They have a much friendlier newbie experience that slowly sucks you in. EVE is pretty overwhelming for a new player, they do a lot of things differently than other games and people aren't very comfortable with new things.
I have heard that EVE has revamped a number of things since I played including the tutorials. They have also done a good job of slowly building up a loyal fan base over the last few years.
Still can't believe I bought a Joystick with my copy.
I call BS
1) You can't "buy a copy" of EVE. You can only purchase it online.
2) EVE has never, ever, had joystick support.
i bought eve at Gamestop... in august of 03
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You? if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it. Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
Eve is a very complex game, i started playing in October of 2004, back then the tutorial was unforgiving and confusing, i had no clue to what i was doing. But i persisted, and three years later i am still around, granted i have taken a half-year haitous in between but i always manage to come back. There is nothing more exciting then the rush of the game, let it be trying to escape a gate camp and warp bubble in a shuttle or hauler, or ambushing a convoy in low sec space only to have reinforcements warp in and warp scramble you as you try to flee. This game takes a lot of patience to get into and is very detailed when it comes down to equipment and outfitting, after 3 years only now do i grasp the concepts of optimal range for weapons, ammo types and how they affect dmg, equiping modules and how it affects ship performance, this game has a lot to offer to somone who is willing to be patient and willing to learn. But the greatest strength is the community of players and corporation support, i play with a dedicated group of people and most of us have been around for a few years and Eve, and we still recruit and play with new people and pass on our knowledge of the game.
Eve is a very complex game, i started playing in October of 2004, back then the tutorial was unforgiving and confusing, i had no clue to what i was doing. But i persisted, and three years later i am still around, granted i have taken a half-year haitous in between but i always manage to come back. There is nothing more exciting then the rush of the game, let it be trying to escape a gate camp and warp bubble in a shuttle or hauler, or ambushing a convoy in low sec space only to have reinforcements warp in and warp scramble you as you try to flee. This game takes a lot of patience to get into and is very detailed when it comes down to equipment and outfitting, after 3 years only now do i grasp the concepts of optimal range for weapons, ammo types and how they affect dmg, equiping modules and how it affects ship performance, this game has a lot to offer to somone who is willing to be patient and willing to learn. But the greatest strength is the community of players and corporation support, i play with a dedicated group of people and most of us have been around for a few years and Eve, and we still recruit and play with new people and pass on our knowledge of the game.
Fantastic! What corporation are you in, by the way?
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this is the most ignorant thing i have seen in a long time.this 'problem' is the great joy, any player can sopecialise and cartch up with a long term player easily due to the structure of the skill system. also the youngest noob can fight and make a difference in a gang against older players.
and if you believe that skill has nothing to do with things pick up a long an old well trained character (there are legitamet and illigitamate ways to do so) then try and play the game, you will fail.
What it will take him a couple of days? Point and click, and look at the market real close, and a New player can master Eve in a 40 million SP character. Eve is nothing but the Best items, on the Best ship, and Point and click. No dodging, no tactics, just the knowledge of what things can and can not do.
de..de..deeee.. thats every MMO.
However, unlike most MMOs, this one has strategy and risk. You can't and wont beat every ship with one ship, some ships are better than other ships at certain circumstances. Go play a FPS please.
Really so you start pvping at level 1 in same fashion as level 50 in daoc ? Sorry but I highly doubt it.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
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WTF?i just don't understand this, there is a game that can hold your interest for three and a half years, but you want it all right now? Good grief, if you have everything within a month of grinding you will be bored in 3 months.
A month of grinding?I'm bored after 5 minutes of grinding. Too many games on the shelf to waste my time.
I have played 1 year and some months and this was the reasons to leave the game
- Skill based games are funny. Skill learning over time, not.
- It is not based on grinding to progress with your character. Except if you are talking about money. Yes, you can be a trader, but that way of making money needs a lot of knownledge about Offer and Demand (more than usual in other games, it's almost like the real world).
The other ways to make money are mining belts or killing rats repetitively
- PVP is too expensive. Yes, you can use tech I ships, but you won't get good results with them. And tech II ships are more expensive and hard to pilot (due to skills)
- The big wars are too boring. Hold the position during 1 hour or so while you see your ship shooting to an inmobile object like a POS is too boring. And, in fleet battles, you spend most of your time hearing your fleet commander and waiting the order to warp to somewhere to shoot the enemy and then go back. And this battles usually need several hours until they end.
- Missions can be boring. The PVE missions and the transport missions.
Anyway, this game is certainly original and it isn't a clone of WoW-like games
Still can't believe I bought a Joystick with my copy.
Neither can I, considering about 10 minutes or less worth of research would have shown that you didn't have to.
Wow dude you no nothing about what eve really is. There ships with the big guns would be nothing with out the newbies in the small tackler ship stoping the enemy from running. Play the game for more then the 14 day trial before you begin to comment on the gameplay. EVE is the only MMORPG thats really given me an adrenilene rush. Mounths of work can be gone with just on missle. This is the only game ware im aculley afraid to die.
Eve is almost like chess I love it
kids or players who are more into mashing buttons or playing 18 hrs a day and getting great gear to massacre noobs then eve not for you.
I wanted to repost an old recruitment post from another forum I made when I started the game almost 2 years ago. This post can show you the merits of a new person and the fun you can have without having any skills. This was before they released the patched that put new players from 30k skillpoints to 900k which it is now. I dont play anymore but the thoght of going back pulls at me. Anyways.. here is the story..
---------
As a 2 month new player to Eve and corp member of Eve university I can vouch for this corp and alliance and say it will provide for any type of gameplay experience you like with no strings attached.
I joined and within 3 weeks there was a war declared on our alliance by a top notch mercenary group. I had never ventured to our 0.0 space and was just puddling my way through empire missions and the like. Well not having any training as of yet and being green to most everything I was a early casualty of war and lost my most expensive(battlecruiser) ship in Empire space. The corp was kind enough to cover a sizable chunk of my loss even though I had insurance without me asking or anything.
Next day they put forth all hands on deck type message for all pilots who wanted to come to our station in 0.0 and take part in military defense and operations. I had never been to 0.0 and this was all new to me. It was not safe for me to stay in empire so I went for the experience and to take part in the war. Euni provided us with basic tackling frigs and modules and I volunteered at every opportunity. When things were clear of hostiles vets in the alliance took us out ratting in 0.0 but went over all the basic strats of instas, bookmarks, tackling, proper overview setups, safespots, alligning etc etc.. All things that would come in handy for me on my ops.
The stage was set and I got to go on an op to chase down some hostiles war targets in Empire space near our 0.0 home. Well after some cat and mouse chases by the gates we finally uncloaked a cov ops pilot of theirs. The chase was on! The adrenaline rush was insane. I hit my mwd, got into close orbit range, got the web and scrambler down and laid into the target with my gang. To my great surprise the covert pilot was the very same one who started the engagement with me a few days before and took out my BC! Oh was it sweet revenge to lay the final blow on him
The kill
http://blue.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=884
Be a part of it, you wont look back!
Romble
Midshipman
Eve University
The Big Blue Alliance
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10 million people play WoW but I have yet to find one who admits liking it?!"
"Aion has the grind of EQ, the PvP of DAoC, and the smooth playability of WoW."
wow! Romble from eve u I was in your class that focused in correctly setting up your overview window
I´m sure the current students of eve uni would love to have you back 
I was thinking about getting back into EVE. Not sure if my character is still there or not. Need to know who to team with. I think that was the problem the first time around. No one to play with.
"And thus I clothe my naked villany/ with old odd ends stolen forth from holy writ/ and seem a saint when most I play the devil." Shakespeare's Richard III Act I Scene 3.
It helps a great deal to post on the official forums and get involved with the community in some way. Even if its just to post that you're looking for a certain type of corp. You're not expected to join the first one that offers, so make sure you do some research on each one if possible before joining so that you can pick the best one for you yourself.
I have been almost the exact same way for the past few years.. I've played over 20 different MMO's and none seem to keep my interest longer then 3 months.. I've always wanted to play EVE. You may have just gave me the final nudge to get me over the edge of doing so.
As for adrenalin rush, Tibia was probably the last game I was fully addicted to, Until the later Updates. I loved the Rush that game gave you. It was awesome.
"Blood drips, Blood sings, Blood devours all and only Blood remains"
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DAOC.
Sorry but it takes 'months' to get enough uber lewt/artifacts/MLs etc etc just to even get an invite into a decent PvP group. To complete a DAoC template you would need about a year. Even classic with the expansions gear, it isnt a few days work.
I have been playing EVE for just lil over a month now. I have a outfitted drake with some tech II. I'm doing .4 Complexes (yes, I'm finding complexes with no Astrometrics skill, just takes lil more time to find them), I'm doing level 3's soon to do 4s, I have 6 ships i use for different aspects of the game (Osprey-mining, kestrel-scouting, Cormant-salvaging, Caracal-rat hunting, Drake- PVP/Complexes/missioning, Badger for Hauling stuff around to sell). You can do every aspect of the game, as soon as you start playing you just won't do it as effectively as a higher skillpoint guy. I have been doing all aspects of the game, exploration, salvaging, mining, pvp and missioning. I only have 2mil SP, but i still can do everything in the game that I want to. Just is lil tougher and have to watch out for the big dogs with higher sp... When you start playing eve, you can go mine stuff or blowup stuff and it will be useful to a new guy or someone that has been playing for awhile. There is no levels. Anything that you obtain at day one, you could possibly use 1-2 years into the game.
EVE is a very complex game. I almost gave up on it. But if you sit down and learn the game there is quite a bit to do out there even with low skillpoints. Just like WoW, you can't be the best within a month of play. Hell, It takes about 2 months to get to 70 then after that you have to raid over and over and over again to get gear to be worth a damn.
Most EVE players frown on people that have played WOW. I played WoW and liked it. I play EVE and like it. Both games are good, they are just different types of mmos. If you don't like EVE don't play it. If you don't like WoW don't play it. Too each his own.
this 'problem' is the great joy, any player can sopecialise and cartch up with a long term player easily due to the structure of the skill system. also the youngest noob can fight and make a difference in a gang against older players.
and if you believe that skill has nothing to do with things pick up a long an old well trained character (there are legitamet and illigitamate ways to do so) then try and play the game, you will fail.
What it will take him a couple of days? Point and click, and look at the market real close, and a New player can master Eve in a 40 million SP character. Eve is nothing but the Best items, on the Best ship, and Point and click. No dodging, no tactics, just the knowledge of what things can and can not do.
When one doesn't know what one is talking about one should keep their opinions to themselves. There is no way that a brand new player could even BEGIN to 'master' EVE in 'a couple days'. The market varies from region to region. The market varies based on the political and military situation in 0.0. The market varies based upon the influence of minor changes in game mechanics and/or the discovery of new tactics in the game.
And that's just the market, you haven't even grazed the surface of the game if all you care about is the market.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
I call BS
1) You can't "buy a copy" of EVE. You can only purchase it online.
2) EVE has never, ever, had joystick support.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
DAOC.
You obviously don't play DAOC
First you have to grind to 50... even if you have good friends power levelling you it'll take you a good 2 or 3 weeks to do this.
Then you have to grind through your master levels.... easily another 3-4 weeks, possibly longer....
Then you have to get your champ gear/levels etc.
Then you have to get all the epic equipment
Next you need to manage to get to realm rank 4 or higher to really be worth a crap in PVP.
2 years ago yeah, you could get into pvp in DAOC fairly quickly. But like every other MMORPG on the planet it takes TIME to catch up to the top elite players. Except that in EVE you are NEEDED in PVP from the time you can fly a decently fitted tackling frigate/interceptor (about 2-4 weeks of play).
I played DAOC for years, and was in THE premier guild on my server. Don't even try to say that you can just jump into DAOC and be competitive 'quickly' in PVP.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
Can I just add that in WoW it took me nearly two years of mind numbing RAIDING to actually be kitted out in amazingly good epics and be top of my game in PvP.
I can't understand why people think that just because Eve takes a while to get into Tech 2 ships etc is so different from them. Plus in WoW you are expected to grind Alterac Valley for Honour or grind Gruul's Lair for epics or SSC etc in your OWN TIME, so basically you login and can spend upwards of 12hrs grinding those things, while in Eve the system allows you the freedom to do WHATEVER YOU PLS, whilst your skills are training
Not any MMORPG's I know of that allow you to do whatever you want whilst grinding....
Because other games like WoW hold the hand of the new player a lot better than EVE. They have a much friendlier newbie experience that slowly sucks you in. EVE is pretty overwhelming for a new player, they do a lot of things differently than other games and people aren't very comfortable with new things.
I have heard that EVE has revamped a number of things since I played including the tutorials. They have also done a good job of slowly building up a loyal fan base over the last few years.
I call BS
1) You can't "buy a copy" of EVE. You can only purchase it online.
2) EVE has never, ever, had joystick support.
Just thought id mention in my local GAME store you can still see the occasionall copy of pre Exodus eve available to buy.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
WOW a layered game that provides new challenges as the character develops. EVE sounds Unique.
I call BS
1) You can't "buy a copy" of EVE. You can only purchase it online.
2) EVE has never, ever, had joystick support.
i bought eve at Gamestop... in august of 03
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it.
Waiting for: the next MMO that lets me make this macro
if hp < 30 then CastSpell("heal") SpellTargetUnit("player") else CastSpell("smite") end
Eve is a very complex game, i started playing in October of 2004, back then the tutorial was unforgiving and confusing, i had no clue to what i was doing. But i persisted, and three years later i am still around, granted i have taken a half-year haitous in between but i always manage to come back. There is nothing more exciting then the rush of the game, let it be trying to escape a gate camp and warp bubble in a shuttle or hauler, or ambushing a convoy in low sec space only to have reinforcements warp in and warp scramble you as you try to flee. This game takes a lot of patience to get into and is very detailed when it comes down to equipment and outfitting, after 3 years only now do i grasp the concepts of optimal range for weapons, ammo types and how they affect dmg, equiping modules and how it affects ship performance, this game has a lot to offer to somone who is willing to be patient and willing to learn. But the greatest strength is the community of players and corporation support, i play with a dedicated group of people and most of us have been around for a few years and Eve, and we still recruit and play with new people and pass on our knowledge of the game.
Fantastic! What corporation are you in, by the way?