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10 Little reasons why EQII is better than WoW
kinky10
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Whilst there is some downtime I thought I'd post a few personal reasons just why I like EQII more than WoW, these thoughts have occurred to me during the last few weeks.
Flame away 
if you want but having personally made a Guild from nothing in WoW and after taking it to conquer MC and BWL and after playing WoW for 2 years solid including BC I really am in love with EQII I only wish I'd found it sooner.
if you want but having personally made a Guild from nothing in WoW and after taking it to conquer MC and BWL and after playing WoW for 2 years solid including BC I really am in love with EQII I only wish I'd found it sooner.I've been playing for about 2-3 weeks now and have a level 29 Shadowknight, I'm still finding out about the game but here's what I like so far, I'm PVE haven't done any PVP and don't really intend to so can't comment on that yet.
As any woman will tell you "It's the little things that mean so much" (and I'm not talking about trouser snakes:) )
So in no particular order
1) You can fight on your mount
2) Crafting is just so much better, you don't simply select the quantity and wait for a bar to fill up you actually have to spend some time and thought behind it
3) For the most part when you apply a buff it stays on till cancelled or death etc
4) Good and Evil factions can talk and interact with each other
5) Being able to sell a quest item if you want to (like I said it's the little things)
6) Having experience and separate achievements points actually is such a good idea and thus levelling isn't such an "all or nothing" event anymore, also having specific racial abilities are a nice touch.
7) Graphics and animations (ok so I'm playing it on Extreme settings)
8) Not having to relist auctions if the item doesn't sell after 24 hours etc
9) Having Guilds with status and having the Guild be able to rise in rank as well just like players can and an inbuilt Guild Bank makes so much sense.
10)More classes and races than you can shake a stick at, all fully customisable with height,appearance etc and each with their own set of abilities and being able to cover multiple roles instead of just 8
some more for good luck
11)Shared banks for characters
12)NPC's that actually talk to you with the speech addition
Things that suck
Frogloks 
I can only describe EQII as WoW for grownups
I'm sure there's lots of other reasons I've missed but feel free to add them
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My little additions
1. Duck and sway in combat as you avoid attacks..looks ultra cool
2. Having so many resources and mats to make your basics like food, etc...and doesn't suck to gather these items.
3. I can pick up resources from the back of my horse (which as an added bonus...all the mounts are cool and unique...c'mon...flying carpets? AWESOME)
4. Selling and listing on a broker is so easy and then you can just forget about it...oh, and it is always a great surprise to come back to some cash..as it DID sell.
5. Uh...HOUSING!!!!!...and it is fun to decorate your house
6. Money seems to not be an issue...I never feel like I need it or I am going to run out or need to overprice my items on the broker.
7. Seperate levels for Crafting, Combat/Quests and Achievements...so, basically I am leveling 3 things, not just one...I can actually be a better crafter than adventurer...way cool..
8. So many races to choose...and you can choose the model style...like the Clay models or Anime stylings...you choose
9. Clothing...now you can be wearing one armor for the benefits, but wear another for the looks..So, your always styling..
10. Incredible emotes...complete with voices...HELLO!...awesome!
My pick!
Well i played EQ2 for a month when i bought it, and i very rarely saw anyone, i only ever asked 1/2 questions i couldn't find answers too and no body could be arsed to reply, personly the community is more importent in an mmo.
It's a good game but the community SUCKS,
and who the **** wants to be a fairy or a frog, orcs/undead ftw.
hmmm let me clear this post up.
I'm not bitter about WoW at all, It held my interest for 2 solid years and was untouchable in that no other game really got a look it, I had some amazing nights with that game and made so many friends as a result some of whom I still keep in touch with even now.
The Guild I formed is still going strong and this makes me very proud.
Starting from scratch to make a guild that was non hardcore and that ended up clearing MC and BWL was simply amazing I was lucky to be surrounded by so many good players and guildmates.
The banter we used to have on Ventrilo was laugh a minute and I wouldn't change that for anything, happy times of which I'm greatful to WoW for all of it.
When I quit WoW it was one of the hardest things to do but after 4 months of BC I'd just had enough, it had changed as a game and like anything I had out-grown it , I didn't find it fun anymore.
At the time I didn't have a new game to go to and I thought my MMO playing days were over, I only went to EQII just out of curiosity really and this was a good 5-6 months after I'd left WoW
I did go back to WoW about a month ago to see what was going on, a friend game me a 10 day trial account, I went back on and it was the same old same old, the only thing I missed were old guild mates, if Blizzard turned round tomorrow and made WoW free to play all I'd do would be to go on probably once a week to say hi to a few a people, I would have no interest in the games content, maybe I'd ty and make a raid once a week but if it was a choice of EQII or WoW no contest.
Obviously it's early days with EQII for me but for the first time in a while I find myself actually missing the game as I can't play it because of the downtime.
I'm looking forward to exploring all the new content and the new expansion in November sounds good.
All games have a shelf life and mine with WoW was 2 years, who knows with EQII, the points that Openedge1 put are all very true as well and also flick my switch.
As for Tunago's post I'm sorry to hear that bud, I can only say there are plenty of people on my server but not too many as to feel overcrowded which was a bit problem with WoW (to the point when some nights I would have to queue for 5 mins to actually get in the game world!!!), when-ever I've asked for help in chat I always get an answer usually within 10 seconds and my guildmates are never far away if I need help so overall I've found the community to be fine, better so than WoW as well.
Yeah Ratonga's are pretty bad as well but you're not forced to play em
Good/Evil factions are not really outright enemies in EQ2. Lore wise they were allied until very recently. With the Rollosians turned back but still a threat, the dragons scheming in KoS and elsewhere, Mayong Mistmoor established in Tunaria and possibly involved in blowing up the Luclin they still face far too many mutual threats to be outright hostile to each other. They are rivals jockeying for position and supremacy of their own belief system rather then outright face a lot more restrictions.
I do feel sorry for you, as this has NOT been the case for me...so it must have been the server.
The De Facto server right now is Antonio Bayle...and no matter where I am I always see someone...either running by, or fighting in my area...but the fact it is not OVER crowded is nice.
Also, every question I have asked in /ooc or level channels...answered almost immediately, with answers that matter (not the "Noob" attitude..)
And my wife LOVES the fairy..i.e: More women will play a title if it offers something unique stylized toward them...of course I also know a few females playing the "Rats"...go figure..myself, I have no issue playing a female avatar either...do you?
Cheers!
Agreed, No issue for me with that, in fact strange you should say this but this is the first time I've actually made my main a female (dark elf). I feel in touch with my femine side as a result however I do find her worring attractive !!!.............and yeah my wife is loving the fairy as well lol
What server? How long have you played and when?
eqnext.wikia.com
Bottom line - EQ2 has one of the best, most helpful communities of any MMO
Couldn't agree more
I been playing Everquest since it was released. I cant find a game I am more willingly to keep playing over and over.
Everquest 2 has brought me the same happiness. I got tired of WoW after 1 year, tried to get back, and didnt work. I been playing EQ2 since its release almost.
There's always pro's and con's, but EQ2 has so much more to offer that I can overlook the cons.
My 2 copper pieces
Oroso - Level 70 Paladin on the Mistmoore server. Send me mail or a message sometime
Couldn't agree more
ditto....i play on a smaller server of nektulos..but the community is by far one of the best.....other than pre nge swg
I agrea that community is important and SOE has gone to great lengths to force people to group for some quest's and majour mobs but they have been smart enough to realize that people like to go solo as well and to that end there is much that you can do solo aside from crafting and if not for that then I would not play this game at all as I dont like to be forced into having to group everytime I want to do a quest.
Questions can usually be answered if you make the effort to find the answer such as going to the forums when you cant get an answer ingame or one of the walk through sites though I rarely ever had a problem getting an answer to a question in game. Joining a guild was the best way to get fast answers and to get help if you needed it for a quest.
Max wedge baby!
i agree
i started eq2 again and im loving it
Hmm, I don't see the benefit of what you are trying to say here. I believe that both of these games get new spells every two levels if memory serves me well. Personally I didn't like EQ's way of implimenting the spell system there since in order to have the Best spell one would have to harvest a rare craft it themselves or have it crafted if they couldn't do it themselves which to me was a total time sink and a half. When I played Masters, Adept III was the most coveted and necassary spells to have since they did a bit more damage.
WOW's system is much more preferable to me since all I had to do is to find my trainer and purchase a new or upgraded spell ( should one want to ) so that one could have the best possible spell for your level should you choose to buy it. No one forces you to buy them in WOW just like no one forces you to in EQ II. But to be on top you kinda have to.
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WoW
-Rhalon 85 B.E. rogue
-Rhalon 81 UD Mage
-Doneski 85 Orc death knight
"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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Comon tell the truth you have never even played EQ2 have you, or at least not any longer then the free trials. If you had you'd know how off some of your responses are.
Let me list some of the reason I say this.
1) Your tagline lists 3 characters for WoW, one for CoV and none for EQ2. Ok ok maybe he's ashame of his EQ2 character
2) Your points on going to war and being able to hear the enemies plans. On a PVP server the enemy would either (A) be in a raid or a group chat thus you wouldn't be able to hear them or (B) would speak in a racial language thus you wouldn't understand what they say unless you learned their language (not too many Elves/humans know troll etc. Enemies in PVP are not gonna talk in common and give away their plans as you suggest. such a suggestion on your part shows IMO your a bit clueless. For those of us not on the PVP servers however it IS handy to be able to talk both the races of dark and light.
3) As to your point about #3 Buffs staying on untill cancilled it once again shows you have no clue and really haven't played EQ2. In Wow solo'ing you have 1,2 maybe 4 buffs total?? Pretty easy to keep track of huh? in EQ2 one of my mains is a troll guardian (ie a warrior type not many buffs there right?) going solo I have 3 class buffs from being a guardian (some classes can maintain as many as 5 I also have 2 achievement buffs, 1 food and 1 drink buff, 2 totem buffs, a Buff from my Bp and one from my grieves. So solo I have 11 buffs going at a time (some like the totems are timed btw) As such its not as you say a case of lazyness its more a case that it would be alot harder to keep track of when each one of those buffs was gonna expire and recast all 11 buffs (especially if I'm in the middle of combat)
I could go on but lets just face the facts that you haven't really played EQ2 for any length of time and are just here trolling. (I especially liked your attack/response to #9 that in WoW you don't need ranks to know how good you are. Hahaha once again pricelessly clueless its not that anyone in EQ2 needs to know how good they are its that the guilds do benifit from being good (ie extra guild bank slots etc.) which IMO is a nice bonus. Comon its not like WoW doesn't have PVP ranks to tell players how good they are
As for me i played wow for a year got my dwarven warrior to the level cap and quickly got tired of WoW's insistance on a raid endgame. Sorry but theres only so many times I want to go with a guild and run the same instance for a full set of blues (for me it was about the 16-17th run. However I knew players that had been running the same instance with their guild over 100 times trying to get the last piece of their set) Its really no wonder to me why WoW players are so upset when the new expansion came along and all their hard won blues and purples became so much crap overnight. Hehe won't even go into how much of a rip off the next wow expansion is IMO
Cheers
As the title suggests these are "little" things and like anything it's subjective, but for me just a few small reasons why I'll never go back to WoW.
Once on another forum someone posted that they had a bad time with the community. When asked, they could not be specific. In their signature line it specified who and where they played. So quite a few others posted that they remember him being a winy brat in chats, asking for something new every few minutes and getting mad when people wouldn't answer him right away. I have seen this too on rare occasions. The community is generally hostile toward that type of personality and rightfully so. Does this help you at all?
Hmm, I don't see the benefit of what you are trying to say here. I believe that both of these games get new spells every two levels if memory serves me well. Personally I didn't like EQ's way of implimenting the spell system there since in order to have the Best spell one would have to harvest a rare craft it themselves or have it crafted if they couldn't do it themselves which to me was a total time sink and a half. When I played Masters, Adept III was the most coveted and necassary spells to have since they did a bit more damage.
WOW's system is much more preferable to me since all I had to do is to find my trainer and purchase a new or upgraded spell ( should one want to ) so that one could have the best possible spell for your level should you choose to buy it. No one forces you to buy them in WOW just like no one forces you to in EQ II. But to be on top you kinda have to.
I was referring to the fact that you don't have to BUY your spells/skills in EQ2, unlike WoW. Of course, you really need to upgrade your spells/skills in EQ2. With the craft systems, getting adept 3's isn't overly difficult. However, I usually just run with apprentice 4's for general soloing until I need a bit more power in a specific spell/skill (pets for example). Typically, if I could craft it, and had the rare mat for it, I was alright. I still think that the WoW's system is worse off, because:1. You don't get a skill/spell every level like EQ2. This can be a blessing and a curse, especially with toolbar clutter. Hopefully they change this with the Kunark expansion.
2. You have to buy the skills/spells in WoW to actually use them... unlike EQ2. However, after upgrading the spells/skills in EQ2, I still find that my WoW characters were more broke due to skill/spell costs than what my EQ2 characters were/are.
Just my $0.02
10 Reasons Why WoW is Better.
1. PvP. Battlegrounds, ranks, ect.
2. Combat. Much more fluid, spells are more disverse. EQ2 classes have like 5 spells that do the same thing. total spam.
3. Classes - WoW's are actually balanced and are diverse. EQ2 copied classes and changed them slightly just to claim to have more.
4. Performance - EQ2 runs like garbage even on an uber computer. Not to mention the massive memory leak that's existed since launch.
5. Immersion - Nothing draws the player to do anything. There's no incentives to get a high pvp rank or get the best gear.
6. Servers - EQ2 is down ALOT, plus most servers are totally empty most of the time. Population is terrible. Good luck trying to find groups aside from 1-20 and 70.
7. UI, Wow has one of the most fluid UIs, EQ2 is terribly clunk and hard to manage.
8. SOE vs Blizzard. You decide which company is better to it's customers.
9. Armor. A level 1 in EQ2 looks almost exaclty like a lvl 70. The armor models are lazy and horriblely bland. Wow models are diverse and sweet looking.
10. Grind. Some people want to hit 70 quick for end-game. HA, takes 5x longer than WoW.
These kinds of lists are stupid, but I felt it fair to backfire.
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