lol at the guys who think priests are OP in this game. they obviously never played wow.
Have you even played WoW?
The top guilds in the world use Shadow Priests for DPS and make the Paladins strictly healing bitches.
Shadow Priests are one of the highest dps'ers in the game atm, a well specced and decently geared SPriest will keep up with Mages, Rogues and Warlocks on the damage metres very easily.
Try to at least have half a clue before you make completely false statements, it'll save you abit of dignity in the long run, all in all that comment was a huge steaming pile of fail.
Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
Undead Rogues? not another WoTF whine, please.
So they have two fear breaking abilities if they have the pvp trinket, its not the end of the world or hugely inbalancing in any way, a good SPriest will bait the rogue into burning his cooldowns and trinkets prematurely (ever played Arena? doesn't seem like your very well informed).
If the SPriest is good, he/she will win every time hands down.
See my post above yours for the answer to that question, doesn't matter about there race, the poster was just complaining about WoTF (Will of the Forsaken, and Undead racial ability that breaks fear and is on a short timer).
Which is why a rogue went 10 - 0 in the World series of Video Games in WoW, right? Because Shadow priests are so OP and leet. You need to armory Nitrana.. srsly. And if a rogue is being put DPSd by a SP in a raid.. Your rogue sucks.. hands down.
OP scale for is as so..
Rogues
Warlocks
Hunters
While other classes will have thier strong players.. these 3 classes will win out in pvp engagements 85% of the time. Even against clasess that would be considered thier counter Rogue/Warrior, Warlock/Rogue these classes can still win half of the time.
We all know that the last class that defeated you in a duel is the most overpowered, and the most underpowered is the one you're playing right now and is losing duels all the time.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Warlocks are great 1v1, but in 3v3 and 5v5 their OP'ness is somewhat diminished.
Balance is a funny thing. You can't balance every class to perform as well as another in PvE, and PvP. And being balanced in PvP isn't possible all the time either, because some classes perform better on their own, and others have an amazing synergy with other classes that make almost impenatrable combos (depending on who they're fighting of course).
I hate fighting frost mages. Their elemental pet can do some serious damage while they hide in their ice-block, which removes all detrimental effects, making life annoying for Shadow priests. Then again, I find most other classes pretty straightforward to kill, depending on the person behind the character of course.
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Which is why a rogue went 10 - 0 in the World series of Video Games in WoW, right? Because Shadow priests are so OP and leet. You need to armory Nitrana.. srsly. And if a rogue is being put DPSd by a SP in a raid.. Your rogue sucks.. hands down.
OP scale for is as so.. Rogues Warlocks Hunters While other classes will have thier strong players.. these 3 classes will win out in pvp engagements 85% of the time. Even against clasess that would be considered thier counter Rogue/Warrior, Warlock/Rogue these classes can still win half of the time.
Because one rogue went 10-0 makes the class op? I have played a rogue for years and I am not sure where you get the op idea from? A rogue can stunlock and pwn you if he knows what hes doing but that doesnt make them op. Let me in on the secret plz
lol at the guys who think priests are OP in this game. they obviously never played wow.
Have you even played WoW?
The top guilds in the world use Shadow Priests for DPS and make the Paladins strictly healing bitches.
Shadow Priests are one of the highest dps'ers in the game atm, a well specced and decently geared SPriest will keep up with Mages, Rogues and Warlocks on the damage metres very easily.
Try to at least have half a clue before you make completely false statements, it'll save you abit of dignity in the long run, all in all that comment was a huge steaming pile of fail.
Abit harsh maybe... I was thinking PvP when I read OP and imo Spriest dont pwn pvp. They are not shammys ofc haha but they dont pwn all. As for PvE, ye any raiding guild will have a Spriest.
Wow so most overpowered is warrior and warlock, and most underpowered... warrior and warlock. Wow those are some anomalous results
I'm guessing most warriors feel gimp when solo PvPing... and ye they dont exactly pwn all solo but in say 5v5 healer+warrior are the only classes u pretty much must have. In zergfest battlegrounds nuffin pwns like a warrior getting heals.
As for warlocks they are the opposite in ways, very strong solo and for 2v2 arena... but basically a filler for 5v5 if that. A lock in group settings getting hit by the assisttrain dies. Fast.
I dont PvE _as_ much as I PvP, but warlocks are imba for virtually any aspect of PvE.
Wow so most overpowered is warrior and warlock, and most underpowered... warrior and warlock.
Wow those are some anomalous results
Its easy. Warlocks has a 50.8% of being overpower out of 61 votes. That like 31 votes say that warlocks are overpower. Then you have warrior that following with 16.4%, 10 votes. Then if you look at underpower you see warlock in lead with 18.2% out of 55 votes. That is 10 votes. Then trailing not to far behind you have Rogues and Warriors with 16.4 and Priest, Mage, Shaman; at 10%. Know if you know anything about Warlocks is that they hate Warriors. Yes there was a time, way back in the Pre-TBC Era, where warlocks hated Rogues with a passion, but those days are long gone.
So you see its typical Warlock behavior on entering polls like this, they always vote on Warrior are overpower, and Warlock are underpower, like you see with the 10 warlock lovers here. While this everyone cant agree what underpower; mage, hunters, priest, shaman, paladins, rogues, warriors, durids. Everyone who a Warlockhore well be unanimous on Warlock being Underpower.
Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
Undead Rogues? not another WoTF whine, please.
So they have two fear breaking abilities if they have the pvp trinket, its not the end of the world or hugely inbalancing in any way, a good SPriest will bait the rogue into burning his cooldowns and trinkets prematurely (ever played Arena? doesn't seem like your very well informed).
If the SPriest is good, he/she will win every time hands down.
Well you got it half right IMO. WOTF isn't the end of the world but it is inbalancing both for priests and locks. That's not a bad thing in itself as it's all rock-paper-scissors but for just one side to get it... that's where it's inbalanced.
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Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
Undead Rogues? not another WoTF whine, please.
So they have two fear breaking abilities if they have the pvp trinket, its not the end of the world or hugely inbalancing in any way, a good SPriest will bait the rogue into burning his cooldowns and trinkets prematurely (ever played Arena? doesn't seem like your very well informed).
If the SPriest is good, he/she will win every time hands down.
Well you got it half right IMO. WOTF isn't the end of the world but it is inbalancing both for priests and locks. That's not a bad thing in itself as it's all rock-paper-scissors but for just one side to get it... that's where it's inbalanced.
I would guess stoneform priests negate that imbalance by a shitload
EDIT: I agree that racials can tip a fight. Saying that having 2 fearbreakers (wotf and trinket) vs a class (priest) with only 1 "escape" spell (namely FEAR lewl) on a 30sec CD (26 with talents) is just ridiculous.
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lol at the guys who think priests are OP in this game. they obviously never played wow.
Could I just pick Alliance?
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yup I agree with what you said
Perhaps they are refering to shadow?
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Perhaps they are refering to shadow?
Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
The top guilds in the world use Shadow Priests for DPS and make the Paladins strictly healing bitches.
Shadow Priests are one of the highest dps'ers in the game atm, a well specced and decently geared SPriest will keep up with Mages, Rogues and Warlocks on the damage metres very easily.
Try to at least have half a clue before you make completely false statements, it'll save you abit of dignity in the long run, all in all that comment was a huge steaming pile of fail.
I have often seen Shadow Priests on top of both the damage chart and healing chart in Battlegrounds. I'd see Priest is as good of choice as any.
okay warlock, most owerpowered and underpowered...
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Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
Undead Rogues? not another WoTF whine, please.
So they have two fear breaking abilities if they have the pvp trinket, its not the end of the world or hugely inbalancing in any way, a good SPriest will bait the rogue into burning his cooldowns and trinkets prematurely (ever played Arena? doesn't seem like your very well informed).
If the SPriest is good, he/she will win every time hands down.
Perhaps they are refering to shadow?
Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
why undead rogues? (sorry to be a wow noob)
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why undead rogues? (sorry to be a wow noob)
See my post above yours for the answer to that question, doesn't matter about there race, the poster was just complaining about WoTF (Will of the Forsaken, and Undead racial ability that breaks fear and is on a short timer).
Which is why a rogue went 10 - 0 in the World series of Video Games in WoW, right? Because Shadow priests are so OP and leet. You need to armory Nitrana.. srsly. And if a rogue is being put DPSd by a SP in a raid.. Your rogue sucks.. hands down.
OP scale for is as so..
Rogues
Warlocks
Hunters
While other classes will have thier strong players.. these 3 classes will win out in pvp engagements 85% of the time. Even against clasess that would be considered thier counter Rogue/Warrior, Warlock/Rogue these classes can still win half of the time.
Oh, please.
We all know that the last class that defeated you in a duel is the most overpowered, and the most underpowered is the one you're playing right now and is losing duels all the time.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
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Warlocks are great 1v1, but in 3v3 and 5v5 their OP'ness is somewhat diminished.
Balance is a funny thing. You can't balance every class to perform as well as another in PvE, and PvP. And being balanced in PvP isn't possible all the time either, because some classes perform better on their own, and others have an amazing synergy with other classes that make almost impenatrable combos (depending on who they're fighting of course).
I hate fighting frost mages. Their elemental pet can do some serious damage while they hide in their ice-block, which removes all detrimental effects, making life annoying for Shadow priests. Then again, I find most other classes pretty straightforward to kill, depending on the person behind the character of course.
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Without even voting in the poll yet to see, this is my guess on what it will look like:
Warlock: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------100%
Everything else: 0%
EDIT: After voting, ROFL warriors are the most underpowered class? Sorry guys I believe you have the wrong game.
The top guilds in the world use Shadow Priests for DPS and make the Paladins strictly healing bitches.
Shadow Priests are one of the highest dps'ers in the game atm, a well specced and decently geared SPriest will keep up with Mages, Rogues and Warlocks on the damage metres very easily.
Try to at least have half a clue before you make completely false statements, it'll save you abit of dignity in the long run, all in all that comment was a huge steaming pile of fail.
Abit harsh maybe... I was thinking PvP when I read OP and imo Spriest dont pwn pvp. They are not shammys ofc haha but they dont pwn all. As for PvE, ye any raiding guild will have a Spriest.
Wow so most overpowered is warrior and warlock, and most underpowered... warrior and warlock.
Wow those are some anomalous results
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As for warlocks they are the opposite in ways, very strong solo and for 2v2 arena... but basically a filler for 5v5 if that. A lock in group settings getting hit by the assisttrain dies. Fast.
I dont PvE _as_ much as I PvP, but warlocks are imba for virtually any aspect of PvE.
Its easy. Warlocks has a 50.8% of being overpower out of 61 votes. That like 31 votes say that warlocks are overpower. Then you have warrior that following with 16.4%, 10 votes. Then if you look at underpower you see warlock in lead with 18.2% out of 55 votes. That is 10 votes. Then trailing not to far behind you have Rogues and Warriors with 16.4 and Priest, Mage, Shaman; at 10%. Know if you know anything about Warlocks is that they hate Warriors. Yes there was a time, way back in the Pre-TBC Era, where warlocks hated Rogues with a passion, but those days are long gone.
So you see its typical Warlock behavior on entering polls like this, they always vote on Warrior are overpower, and Warlock are underpower, like you see with the 10 warlock lovers here. While this everyone cant agree what underpower; mage, hunters, priest, shaman, paladins, rogues, warriors, durids. Everyone who a Warlockhore well be unanimous on Warlock being Underpower.
Which stooges voted warlocks are the most underpowered!???
Everybody hates warlocks, everybody wants to nerf them
Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
Undead Rogues? not another WoTF whine, please.
So they have two fear breaking abilities if they have the pvp trinket, its not the end of the world or hugely inbalancing in any way, a good SPriest will bait the rogue into burning his cooldowns and trinkets prematurely (ever played Arena? doesn't seem like your very well informed).
If the SPriest is good, he/she will win every time hands down.
Well you got it half right IMO. WOTF isn't the end of the world but it is inbalancing both for priests and locks. That's not a bad thing in itself as it's all rock-paper-scissors but for just one side to get it... that's where it's inbalanced.
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Undead Rogue counters priests at every turn.. shadow or not.
Undead Rogues? not another WoTF whine, please.
So they have two fear breaking abilities if they have the pvp trinket, its not the end of the world or hugely inbalancing in any way, a good SPriest will bait the rogue into burning his cooldowns and trinkets prematurely (ever played Arena? doesn't seem like your very well informed).
If the SPriest is good, he/she will win every time hands down.
Well you got it half right IMO. WOTF isn't the end of the world but it is inbalancing both for priests and locks. That's not a bad thing in itself as it's all rock-paper-scissors but for just one side to get it... that's where it's inbalanced.
I would guess stoneform priests negate that imbalance by a shitload
EDIT: I agree that racials can tip a fight. Saying that having 2 fearbreakers (wotf and trinket) vs a class (priest) with only 1 "escape" spell (namely FEAR lewl) on a 30sec CD (26 with talents) is just ridiculous.