I get it now. You guys wanted G&H to be released, and you really wanted it to be garbage. That way you could spout off again as to how SOE has put out another garbage game, just like Vanguard (which again they didnt).
Now you are angry that the game was cancelled and you wont be able to do this so you had to change tactics. Now the cancer that is SOE got involved with G&H and just that touch made the developers turn to absolute crap and forced the game to be scrapped.
Originally posted by UnSub Originally posted by Lateris SOE is buying G&H?
Very unlikely, I'd think. If that was the case, they wouldn't have walked away from G&H and reduced their role a few months ago.
They DIDN'T reduce their role. They saw how SOE was affecting their game's interests and so they "changed titles" to make it SEEM like SOE was less involved, even though they stated publicly that SOE had their hands just as deep as before. Apparently the smoke-and-mirrors marketing ploy worked on some people, but not enough to save the game.
Yes it's SOE's fault for helping smaller independent companies by financing their games. Lets forget the fact that 90% of MMOs that are released on the market suck and only focus on the ones SOE publish. People need to think before they speak.
OK, lets try this then. Can you tell me the MMO with SOE's brand label on the box that I can or could have bought on its launch day that was in good shape, fun and did not need 500 combat system revamps?
Lets talk about all the quality launches they have had, their IP or not, that went smooth.
Yes it's SOE's fault for helping smaller independent companies by financing their games. Lets forget the fact that 90% of MMOs that are released on the market suck and only focus on the ones SOE publish. People need to think before they speak.
OK, lets try this then. Can you tell me the MMO with SOE's brand label on the box that I can or could have bought on its launch day that was in good shape, fun and did not need 500 combat system revamps?
Lets talk about all the quality launches they have had, their IP or not, that went smooth.
I will start.....
Ok done, your turn.
Could you please share with us a list of games and their publishers, who have done all you mentioned? There are plenty of games out there who have had rocky starts, but have become good titles, much like there are games out there that have had near flawless launches but lack severely in good gameplay.
Thing is if a game came out in a perfect state, why are we paying monthly fees to play a static game? I am not saying a subscription price warrants a game to be released under a beta state, but one would expect a game to be updated for the better of the game and its community.
So far from what I have heard about SOE, all the generated hate seems to be a bit mislead.
SWG: Lucas Arts was responsible for the changes made.
Vanguard: Sigil developed the game, and released it after money fell short. SOE picked it up and is doing a EQ2 style fix to the game, and doing a good job.
These are the only two MAJOR issues I have heard about, connected to SOE. Then from everything I've gathered from forums, news sites, etc. they aren't even responsible for. The only game I see SOE responsible for was EQ2. When it was released, it was considered lackluster, but it was far from not being playable. Now after the 5000th game update and changes to it, its actually one of the best MMO's to date (my opinion).
I am no SOE fanboy though this post may look like the opposite, but all the hate is just a bit to far fetched and unwarranted.
Funny stuff here. Let me start off by saying I SOE. There I said it. I've played SOE games longer than any other games out there, ever. Love em, hate em. It doesnt matter. They had zero to do with Perpetual canceling thier craptastic game.
Funny stuff here. Let me start off by saying I SOE. There I said it. I've played SOE games longer than any other games out there, ever. Love em, hate em. It doesnt matter. They had zero to do with Perpetual canceling thier craptastic game.
Agreed...I had no feelings either way for SOE (never played SWG, which this all stems from)...
So, one game gets trashed thanks to SOE, and now EVERY game that dies is blamed on SOE...
"Did you know SOE was involved with Auto Assault...yea...they looked at the box, and NCSoft closed the game down the next day"
Really...see how stupid that looks...same here for GnH
So, I try EQ2 about almost 2 months ago...and was thoroughly impressed. I remember when the game first came out...how it ran, how it looked.,..yuck!
But, the secret was...they listened, and this game is truly incredible...
Vanguard is now getting reworked by SOE, and people are already starting to talk about how it is stabilizing, and the game is running better..
Ok, so SOE made a decision to make SWG more like the films to attract a wider audience, and it backfired due to the old players hating it, and of course, SW lovers of the movies could not really get into it...so, they lost footing..in a business sense, it was the right choice...make it easier (ala WoW), and use a license a ton of people love...I mean ...what could go wrong?...
It fails...so now every other game they touch should fail as well? Stupid thinking...
GnH had one issue, and one issue only...it sucked. The engine was horrible, controls sucked, it was boring, the UI was crappy...it brought nothing new to the table, and what it was doing that had already been done was crap...
The servers were down more than up, bugs would not go away...basically it all boils down to a crappy Developer...end of story...
IMHO SOE destroys everything they touch. SWG went down the hill since NGE, Vanguard.... unfinished product with bad world wide distribution. Wait.... all SOE games have bad world wide distribution.
Oh, and btw, SOE doesn't have much to do about Gods and Heroes being canceled, unless they pay PE.
so, now we have STO and GW2.... good luck. oh yeah and WAR and AoC . cheers
That is what Sigil said about Vangaurd and look where that ended up. I am NOT saying that is the case here, but everyone saw that as a very likely outcome of the sigil/soe deal and the PE/SOE deal has many of the same characteristics. Lots of people lost interest when SOE got involved. It doesn't matter how much PE and SOE spun the public relations about it, people saw the possibility.
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
SOE had nothing to do with this. I played in Beta and I think the main reason G & H had problems was because of the minion system. The system was very cool and made the game fun to play. But it made alot of other things difficult to implement such as PVP. The game also could not be seamless because of the minion system. Towns were zoned because of the minions.
Everything they touch. PoTBS is next. Seriously, this game lost a lot of interest from many players once SOE got involved.
Well i don't really believe that since their only handling the Customer part and has nothing to do with the Development.
Just having SOE attached to a game is enough for many of us to lose interest in it. There are many people who refuse to buy games that SOE makes money from.
That is what Sigil said about Vangaurd and look where that ended up. I am NOT saying that is the case here, but everyone saw that as a very likely outcome of the sigil/soe deal and the PE/SOE deal has many of the same characteristics. Lots of people lost interest when SOE got involved. It doesn't matter how much PE and SOE spun the public relations about it, people saw the possibility.
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
IMHO SOE destroys everything they touch. SWG went down the hill since NGE, Vanguard.... unfinished product with bad world wide distribution. Wait.... all SOE games have bad world wide distribution. Oh, and btw, SOE doesn't have much to do about Gods and Heroes being canceled, unless they pay PE. so, now we have STO and GW2.... good luck. oh yeah and WAR and AoC . cheers
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
Could you please share with us a list of games and their publishers, who have done all you mentioned? There are plenty of games out there who have had rocky starts, but have become good titles, much like there are games out there that have had near flawless launches but lack severely in good gameplay.
Thing is if a game came out in a perfect state, why are we paying monthly fees to play a static game? I am not saying a subscription price warrants a game to be released under a beta state, but one would expect a game to be updated for the better of the game and its community. So far from what I have heard about SOE, all the generated hate seems to be a bit mislead. SWG: Lucas Arts was responsible for the changes made.
Vanguard: Sigil developed the game, and released it after money fell short. SOE picked it up and is doing a EQ2 style fix to the game, and doing a good job. These are the only two MAJOR issues I have heard about, connected to SOE. Then from everything I've gathered from forums, news sites, etc. they aren't even responsible for. The only game I see SOE responsible for was EQ2. When it was released, it was considered lackluster, but it was far from not being playable. Now after the 5000th game update and changes to it, its actually one of the best MMO's to date (my opinion). I am no SOE fanboy though this post may look like the opposite, but all the hate is just a bit to far fetched and unwarranted.
First off I wasn't talking about numerous other publishers, we were talking about Sony. (LOTRO, GW, LineageII, CoH, are just a few games that I played that were fine launches and MILES ahead of EVERY SOE title. Just to answer your question that wasn't on topic)
Sony has a long history of rushed buggy incomplete launches for every game they have put the SOE brand on. You can't name one game they launched that went well and most likely even was in a good state within a year after launch. Their title or someone elses they published. The end point is if the SOE brand was on the box it was craptastic. I am not even saying all of the launches were their fault, but the fact remains.
SWG was made and designed by SOE, please don't give SOE a free pass because they had to get things approved by Lucas. The same mistakes were made in most of their other titles so it isn't LA fault and they go FAR FAR FAR beyond just the NGE.
EQ2 was crap performance wise and game design wise at launch. Even Smedly admitted that recently. Which is exactly what we are talking about, launches. If the SOE brand is on the box history lends proof that it will be junk out of the gate. MAYBE if the title is their flagship and has the best and brightest SOE has to offer it can become a decent game YEARS after it has been on the market. Not to mention undergone numerous fundemental game mechanic changes and all the damn money grubbing "enhancements" that drive away more players than it attracts, but who wants to pay for a game that takes years to get fixed.
I may put some hate on the company, but there is a long history from SOE earning it. There is far more than the NGE, but if it didn't affect you then consider yourself very lucky. However, don't make an uninformed comment about it only being SWG as it isn't.
i like soe...other than the swg debacle..(which is LAs fault)....i am having a BLAST in EQ2, and i started 3 months ago!
Sigil was the downfall of VG, and PE was the downfall of GnH....poorly mismanaged companies. The only thing i see SOE guilty of is investing time and resources with POS companies
That is what Sigil said about Vangaurd and look where that ended up. I am NOT saying that is the case here, but everyone saw that as a very likely outcome of the sigil/soe deal and the PE/SOE deal has many of the same characteristics. Lots of people lost interest when SOE got involved. It doesn't matter how much PE and SOE spun the public relations about it, people saw the possibility.
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
Yes, you have proven that people hold a grudge because a business changed thier product and it was looked upon unfavorably.
To even try to compare EQs and WoW success, or make the statement that EQs paled in reguards to WoWs proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. When EQ came out there was no MMORPG genre, there were a few games that had a cult following (pure love for UO and Meridian so dont jump me). The entire gaming community for MMORPGs was probably only a few 100 thousand people total. EQ put MMOs on the map and was the biggest success every. WoW came much after EQ, along with many other MMOs i might add so it was able to ride the wave that UO, EQ, AC, DAOC built. Not only that but the game brought in millions of players just from the Warcraft franchise, and probably some from Warhammer since they completely ripped them off.
You cant compare the two so dont try, you will just make yourself look stupid.
Something some of you may not realise is that gaming companies can change there game whenever they want to. They even make it easy for you to understand this by putting it right there on the box. If you dont like what the company does then leave and find a new game. All this hate will eat you up, plus make you look like kind of a jack-ass
IMHO SOE destroys everything they touch. SWG went down the hill since NGE, Vanguard.... unfinished product with bad world wide distribution. Wait.... all SOE games have bad world wide distribution. Oh, and btw, SOE doesn't have much to do about Gods and Heroes being canceled, unless they pay PE. so, now we have STO and GW2.... good luck. oh yeah and WAR and AoC . cheers
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
And yes, Vanguard SoH is unfinished product, diplomacy is a great idea but implemented badly.... This is enough to say that game is bad. The fact that it is clearly unfinished is enough to say that the game is screwed.
And before flaming others, inform your self. Vanguard's main developer sad that he is sorry for publishing the game before it was finished, because he didn't have enough money. Who gives money? Publisher does.... SoE was publisher at that time. Then they replaced Sigil Games and are now main developers. What have they done? Nothing.
And btw, next time you really gonna flame others, keep in mind to write grammatically correct lines, and to have facts that will support your opinion. Because now you see what happens...... What have you done by quoting me at the first place? Nothing, but showing that you are uninformed about MMOs in general.
And just to add to original topic, again, SoE doesn't have anything to do with GnH development at all, the only thing is that they are paying, or are planning to play for the game publishing. The fact is that GnH was canceled because a new financier came and decided that this business leads to no where. It is logical that that financier is from SoE, if not, PE pays for GnH, and SoE is in charge for maintaining servers and publishing the game. They canceled GnH because STO will bring more players, and finally more money, and GnH isn't canceled for good, but just for some time. How long, no one knows, and maybe once it will be canceled for good. But for now, GnH fans can still hope.
That is what Sigil said about Vangaurd and look where that ended up. I am NOT saying that is the case here, but everyone saw that as a very likely outcome of the sigil/soe deal and the PE/SOE deal has many of the same characteristics. Lots of people lost interest when SOE got involved. It doesn't matter how much PE and SOE spun the public relations about it, people saw the possibility.
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
Yes, you have proven that people hold a grudge because a business changed thier product and it was looked upon unfavorably.
To even try to compare EQs and WoW success, or make the statement that EQs paled in reguards to WoWs proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. When EQ came out there was no MMORPG genre, there were a few games that had a cult following (pure love for UO and Meridian so dont jump me). The entire gaming community for MMORPGs was probably only a few 100 thousand people total. EQ put MMOs on the map and was the biggest success every. WoW came much after EQ, along with many other MMOs i might add so it was able to ride the wave that UO, EQ, AC, DAOC built. Not only that but the game brought in millions of players just from the Warcraft franchise, and probably some from Warhammer since they completely ripped them off.
You cant compare the two so dont try, you will just make yourself look stupid.
Something some of you may not realise is that gaming companies can change there game whenever they want to. They even make it easy for you to understand this by putting it right there on the box. If you dont like what the company does then leave and find a new game. All this hate will eat you up, plus make you look like kind of a jack-ass
Anyone hating SOE for their completely unnacceptable behavior doesn't look like jack asses to me, but responsible consumers.
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
That is what Sigil said about Vangaurd and look where that ended up. I am NOT saying that is the case here, but everyone saw that as a very likely outcome of the sigil/soe deal and the PE/SOE deal has many of the same characteristics. Lots of people lost interest when SOE got involved. It doesn't matter how much PE and SOE spun the public relations about it, people saw the possibility.
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
Yes, you have proven that people hold a grudge because a business changed thier product and it was looked upon unfavorably.
To even try to compare EQs and WoW success, or make the statement that EQs paled in reguards to WoWs proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. When EQ came out there was no MMORPG genre, there were a few games that had a cult following (pure love for UO and Meridian so dont jump me). The entire gaming community for MMORPGs was probably only a few 100 thousand people total. EQ put MMOs on the map and was the biggest success every. WoW came much after EQ, along with many other MMOs i might add so it was able to ride the wave that UO, EQ, AC, DAOC built. Not only that but the game brought in millions of players just from the Warcraft franchise, and probably some from Warhammer since they completely ripped them off.
You cant compare the two so dont try, you will just make yourself look stupid.
Something some of you may not realise is that gaming companies can change there game whenever they want to. They even make it easy for you to understand this by putting it right there on the box. If you dont like what the company does then leave and find a new game. All this hate will eat you up, plus make you look like kind of a jack-ass
Anyone hating SOE for their completely unnacceptable behavior doesn't look like jack asses to me, but responsible consumers.
That's correct. I agree.
And don't talk about hate just because someone doesn't like the game you play. Think, compare, don't flame and decide. Get used for critics on your game.
IMHO SOE destroys everything they touch. SWG went down the hill since NGE, Vanguard.... unfinished product with bad world wide distribution. Wait.... all SOE games have bad world wide distribution. Oh, and btw, SOE doesn't have much to do about Gods and Heroes being canceled, unless they pay PE. so, now we have STO and GW2.... good luck. oh yeah and WAR and AoC . cheers
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
And yes, Vanguard SoH is unfinished product, diplomacy is a great idea but implemented badly.... This is enough to say that game is bad. The fact that it is clearly unfinished is enough to say that the game is screwed.
And before flaming others, inform your self. Vanguard's main developer sad that he is sorry for publishing the game before it was finished, because he didn't have enough money. Who gives money? Publisher does.... SoE was publisher at that time. Then they replaced Sigil Games and are now main developers. What have they done? Nothing.
And btw, next time you really gonna flame others, keep in mind to write grammatically correct lines, and to have facts that will support your opinion. Because now you see what happens...... What have you done by quoting me at the first place? Nothing, but showing that you are uninformed about MMOs in general.
And just to add to original topic, again, SoE doesn't have anything to do with GnH development at all, the only thing is that they are paying, or are planning to play for the game publishing. The fact is that GnH was canceled because a new financier came and decided that this business leads to no where. It is logical that that financier is from SoE, if not, PE pays for GnH, and SoE is in charge for maintaining servers and publishing the game. They canceled GnH because STO will bring more players, and finally more money, and GnH isn't canceled for good, but just for some time. How long, no one knows, and maybe once it will be canceled for good. But for now, GnH fans can still hope.
First, a little education in here, not everyone is ignorant, as yourself, to master only ONE language, some people speaks more than one, if not perfectly, enough to be understood, which is MUCH more of what can be said about you, let me give you a hint:
A falta de educação comprovada pela belicosidade e ignorância de algumas pessoas, presas em seu próprio mundinho se faz parecer no isntante que exara seus preconceitos, no entanto, deixa de perceber que ignorante é quem escreve e não tem capacidade de entender em outras linguas o mínimo possível. E ainda reclama que outros escrevem EM OUITRAS línguas de forma ´errada´.
I hope you got what I wrote to you, because EVERYTHING you write in english I will understand, but nothing I write on portuguese or french or spanish will be understood by you, simply because you are ignorant. Bashing others because their second language is not good and not having a second language is a sign of utterly ignorance and imbecility. Everyone can write in here, no matter how his or her english skill is, INCLUDING PEOPLE who can only understand ONE lnaguage... Thank this guy for sharing his thought in a language which YOU can understand, because there is only one you can understand...
I do hate this kind of behavior... Sorry to disturb the discussion, guys.
IMHO SOE destroys everything they touch. SWG went down the hill since NGE, Vanguard.... unfinished product with bad world wide distribution. Wait.... all SOE games have bad world wide distribution. Oh, and btw, SOE doesn't have much to do about Gods and Heroes being canceled, unless they pay PE. so, now we have STO and GW2.... good luck. oh yeah and WAR and AoC . cheers
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
And yes, Vanguard SoH is unfinished product, diplomacy is a great idea but implemented badly.... This is enough to say that game is bad. The fact that it is clearly unfinished is enough to say that the game is screwed.
And before flaming others, inform your self. Vanguard's main developer sad that he is sorry for publishing the game before it was finished, because he didn't have enough money. Who gives money? Publisher does.... SoE was publisher at that time. Then they replaced Sigil Games and are now main developers. What have they done? Nothing.
And btw, next time you really gonna flame others, keep in mind to write grammatically correct lines, and to have facts that will support your opinion. Because now you see what happens...... What have you done by quoting me at the first place? Nothing, but showing that you are uninformed about MMOs in general.
And just to add to original topic, again, SoE doesn't have anything to do with GnH development at all, the only thing is that they are paying, or are planning to play for the game publishing. The fact is that GnH was canceled because a new financier came and decided that this business leads to no where. It is logical that that financier is from SoE, if not, PE pays for GnH, and SoE is in charge for maintaining servers and publishing the game. They canceled GnH because STO will bring more players, and finally more money, and GnH isn't canceled for good, but just for some time. How long, no one knows, and maybe once it will be canceled for good. But for now, GnH fans can still hope.
First, a little education in here, not everyone is ignorant, as yourself, to master only ONE language, some people speaks more than one, if not perfectly, enough to be understood, which is MUCH more of what can be said about you, let me give you a hint:
A falta de educação comprovada pela belicosidade e ignorância de algumas pessoas, presas em seu próprio mundinho se faz parecer no isntante que exara seus preconceitos, no entanto, deixa de perceber que ignorante é quem escreve e não tem capacidade de entender em outras linguas o mínimo possível. E ainda reclama que outros escrevem EM OUITRAS línguas de forma ´errada´.
I hope you got what I wrote to you, because EVERYTHING you write in english I will understand, but nothing I write on portuguese or french or spanish will be understood by you, simply because you are ignorant. Bashing others because their second language is not good and not having a second language is a sign of utterly ignorance and imbecility. Everyone can write in here, no matter how his or her english skill is, INCLUDING PEOPLE who can only understand ONE lnaguage... Thank this guy for sharing his thought in a language which YOU can understand, because there is only one you can understand...
I do hate this kind of behavior... Sorry to disturb the discussion, guys.
Now move along...
Oh ho o....
First, English is not my native language. So before flaming, check it first. All you had to do, is to click on my name, and see where do I come from. Now you showed who is ignorant here.......
Second I speak 3+ foreign languages, and my native. (English, German, Croatian as my native, and 4 languages of my neighbor countries, of Slavic origin. Think of it as the same, but languages in Slavic origin are quite a different.So a word ignorant is out of the question.
I, on the second tough, won't fall down to your level, to insult or to speak on language that is not a part of general form of communication on this website, and that is English language, because I have respect for this community, and have a right to speak, you on the other hand have insulted me, and disturbed the nice chat that was going on here. I said my opinion, someone flamed me, because our opinions were different, I defended my self, and now you came.
All i have to say is chill, because you overreacted for banal thing. And stop insulting others, because it is so threadbarely of you to insult and then apologize to community, and ending with line ''now move along'' like you are some boss around here.
And I won't react on the next insult coming from you, or anyone else, you flame and insult. One day your behavior will get payed in real life.
And I am sorry because you can't express your opinion on these forums without getting flamed and insulted. Pity...
If its truth that you speak 3 foreign languages (which I dont believe, for the reasons I will state soon) then you are not an ignorant only.. You are also someone without sensibility, an ogre for the lack of better word... How can you speak 3 foreign languages and bash on people who cant spell very well in other language? Secondly, to state an idea, if you really believe it, you DO NOT start an argumentation trying to put down, PERSONALLY the writer of the idea, offending his writing skills, but debate the IDEA... Therefore, you are an ignorant for NOT knowing how to argument.
I dont believe that you speak other laguages simply because if you did, you should have a little more of sensibility to know that NOT EVERYONE starts speaking 2 or 3 languages properly for a LOT of reasons, and everyone try hard to communicante IN THE WAY THEY CAN, bashing those tries and BEING THERE ALSO shows a tremendous lack of sensibility (and ignorance for not knowing how to argument).
Next time you disgree with someone, try to hide your racism problems (hide on an utterly defense of a languange which ACCORDING TO YOU, isnt even your native language). If you wish to look like an english or an american, good luck for you, but the radical defense of english grammar do not make you an american or an english, sorry... By the way, I do speak 4 languages as well, and my native language is VERY hard to be mastered, there is NO FOREIGN who speaks properly it, God knows that not my own people speak it properly, but I dont bash not EVEN THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY WHO DO NOT SPEAK THEIR OWN LANGUAGE PROPERLY, you know why? Because I would sound like a jerk if I do it on a open forum...
Funny how you accuse me of flaming, when you start (START, for godsake!!) a post with:
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
I would ask you who you think you are to order someone to ´learn english´ before speaking in here , but suddenly it became a waste of time..
I would say to you to First learn how to behave on an adult communty before talking to others on ANY language. But that also will fall.. As you told me, and it seens you enjoy to feel yourself superior, you will have your turn on real life also ...
I spoke what I felt the need to speak, I trully apologize to everyone else in here, but I dont like to see people trying to put others down only to feel himself superior. Not coming back to this discussion.
Funny how you accuse me of flaming, when you start (START, for godsake!!) a post with: First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English. I would ask you who you think you are to order someone to ´learn english´ before speaking in here , but suddenly it became a waste of time.. I would say to you to First learn how to behave on an adult communty before talking to others on ANY language. But that also will fall.. As you told me, and it seens you enjoy to feel yourself superior, you will have your turn on real life also ... I spoke what I felt the need to speak, I trully apologize to everyone else in here, but I dont like to see people trying to put others down only to feel himself superior. Not coming back to this discussion.
The reason he flamed the other person was because they were mocking others on how they have written their arguements. If your going to use that kind of line, then at least be able to write properly yourself. Understand?
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Perpetual has no gone out of business, SOE had absolutely nothing to do with God's and hero's being put on hold.
This was posted on Star Trek Gaming Website
Gods and Heroes, Perpetual's other title has been cancelled;
Loyal and faithful community members and Beta testers, thank you for your support, help, and understanding during the Gods & Heroes: Rome Rising development process. The development team established some very lofty and ambitious goals when the initial work was started on ]Gods & Heroes. Recently, we took a step back to evaluate the competitive landscape, the game's current state, and the overall goals for our organization. And while we are truly proud of and pleased with what we have created in Gods & Heroes, we also realize that achieving the level of quality and polish that we are committed to will take a significant investment.
The Perpetual team is faced with a unique challenge of simultaneously developing both Gods & Heroes and Star Trek Online in addition to growing our Online Game Platform business. After assessing all of Perpetual's opportunities, we have made the decision to put the development of Gods & Heroes on indefinite hold.
I want to express my overwhelming gratitude to the community, engineers, designers, artists, animators, and the game services team for the support and effort that has gone into Gods & Heroes.
Moving forward, we're shifting our collective focus, resources and development efforts to Perpetual's Platform Services division and Star Trek Online, thereby ensuring that the game lives up to the high level of expectation set by the dedicated Star Trek fan base.
Again, I would personally like to thank all of the Gods & Heroes supporters who have been with us from the beginning. Hopefully, your continued support will be as valuable to our future endeavors as it was with
Vade in pace,
Chris McKibbin
Daron Stinnett, Exective Producer for Star Trek Online also made this statement to Trekmovie.com;
It is a testament to our commitment to quality and the strength of our Star Trek and Platform efforts that has enabled us to endure such a difficult decision. Perpetual Entertainment is now more focused and Star Trek Online is going stronger than ever and we’re looking forward to sharing the results of our hard work and revealing more about Star Trek Online in the coming year.
StarTrek-Online.net also suggests that the company may have been subject to a take-over or new investors, however, this is yet to be confirmed.
They want to put everything into ONE title so it's a huge hit rather then splitting their efforts among two marginal titles and mess up Star Trek Online their cash cow.
Well if canceling GnH will lead to STO being better, then STO, according to what they have said, should rise so high in glory, to become No 1 in the means of numbers of subscribers, and probably be better then LOTRO or EQ II on top tens lists. we know that world is full of ST fans, eve more then LOTR fans, so if it will be great, as the say, great things are about to happen in MMO business
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I get it now. You guys wanted G&H to be released, and you really wanted it to be garbage. That way you could spout off again as to how SOE has put out another garbage game, just like Vanguard (which again they didnt).
Now you are angry that the game was cancelled and you wont be able to do this so you had to change tactics. Now the cancer that is SOE got involved with G&H and just that touch made the developers turn to absolute crap and forced the game to be scrapped.
I think i get it now.
Very unlikely, I'd think. If that was the case, they wouldn't have walked away from G&H and reduced their role a few months ago.
They DIDN'T reduce their role. They saw how SOE was affecting their game's interests and so they "changed titles" to make it SEEM like SOE was less involved, even though they stated publicly that SOE had their hands just as deep as before. Apparently the smoke-and-mirrors marketing ploy worked on some people, but not enough to save the game.
Lets talk about all the quality launches they have had, their IP or not, that went smooth.
I will start.....
Ok done, your turn.
Lets talk about all the quality launches they have had, their IP or not, that went smooth.
I will start.....
Ok done, your turn.
Could you please share with us a list of games and their publishers, who have done all you mentioned? There are plenty of games out there who have had rocky starts, but have become good titles, much like there are games out there that have had near flawless launches but lack severely in good gameplay.Thing is if a game came out in a perfect state, why are we paying monthly fees to play a static game? I am not saying a subscription price warrants a game to be released under a beta state, but one would expect a game to be updated for the better of the game and its community.
So far from what I have heard about SOE, all the generated hate seems to be a bit mislead.
SWG: Lucas Arts was responsible for the changes made.
Vanguard: Sigil developed the game, and released it after money fell short. SOE picked it up and is doing a EQ2 style fix to the game, and doing a good job.
These are the only two MAJOR issues I have heard about, connected to SOE. Then from everything I've gathered from forums, news sites, etc. they aren't even responsible for. The only game I see SOE responsible for was EQ2. When it was released, it was considered lackluster, but it was far from not being playable. Now after the 5000th game update and changes to it, its actually one of the best MMO's to date (my opinion).
I am no SOE fanboy though this post may look like the opposite, but all the hate is just a bit to far fetched and unwarranted.
Funny stuff here. Let me start off by saying I
SOE. There I said it. I've played SOE games longer than any other games out there, ever. Love em, hate em. It doesnt matter. They had zero to do with Perpetual canceling thier craptastic game.
Agreed...I had no feelings either way for SOE (never played SWG, which this all stems from)...
So, one game gets trashed thanks to SOE, and now EVERY game that dies is blamed on SOE...
"Did you know SOE was involved with Auto Assault...yea...they looked at the box, and NCSoft closed the game down the next day"
Really...see how stupid that looks...same here for GnH
So, I try EQ2 about almost 2 months ago...and was thoroughly impressed. I remember when the game first came out...how it ran, how it looked.,..yuck!
But, the secret was...they listened, and this game is truly incredible...
Vanguard is now getting reworked by SOE, and people are already starting to talk about how it is stabilizing, and the game is running better..
Ok, so SOE made a decision to make SWG more like the films to attract a wider audience, and it backfired due to the old players hating it, and of course, SW lovers of the movies could not really get into it...so, they lost footing..in a business sense, it was the right choice...make it easier (ala WoW), and use a license a ton of people love...I mean ...what could go wrong?...
It fails...so now every other game they touch should fail as well? Stupid thinking...
GnH had one issue, and one issue only...it sucked. The engine was horrible, controls sucked, it was boring, the UI was crappy...it brought nothing new to the table, and what it was doing that had already been done was crap...
The servers were down more than up, bugs would not go away...basically it all boils down to a crappy Developer...end of story...
Kill the SOE hate now...
Cheers!
IMHO SOE destroys everything they touch. SWG went down the hill since NGE, Vanguard.... unfinished product with bad world wide distribution. Wait.... all SOE games have bad world wide distribution.
Oh, and btw, SOE doesn't have much to do about Gods and Heroes being canceled, unless they pay PE.
so, now we have STO and GW2.... good luck. oh yeah and WAR and AoC . cheers
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
SOE had nothing to do with this. I played in Beta and I think the main reason G & H had problems was because of the minion system. The system was very cool and made the game fun to play. But it made alot of other things difficult to implement such as PVP. The game also could not be seamless because of the minion system. Towns were zoned because of the minions.
Well i don't really believe that since their only handling the Customer part and has nothing to do with the Development.
Just having SOE attached to a game is enough for many of us to lose interest in it. There are many people who refuse to buy games that SOE makes money from.
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
Sony has a long history of rushed buggy incomplete launches for every game they have put the SOE brand on. You can't name one game they launched that went well and most likely even was in a good state within a year after launch. Their title or someone elses they published. The end point is if the SOE brand was on the box it was craptastic. I am not even saying all of the launches were their fault, but the fact remains.
SWG was made and designed by SOE, please don't give SOE a free pass because they had to get things approved by Lucas. The same mistakes were made in most of their other titles so it isn't LA fault and they go FAR FAR FAR beyond just the NGE.
EQ2 was crap performance wise and game design wise at launch. Even Smedly admitted that recently. Which is exactly what we are talking about, launches. If the SOE brand is on the box history lends proof that it will be junk out of the gate. MAYBE if the title is their flagship and has the best and brightest SOE has to offer it can become a decent game YEARS after it has been on the market. Not to mention undergone numerous fundemental game mechanic changes and all the damn money grubbing "enhancements" that drive away more players than it attracts, but who wants to pay for a game that takes years to get fixed.
I may put some hate on the company, but there is a long history from SOE earning it. There is far more than the NGE, but if it didn't affect you then consider yourself very lucky. However, don't make an uninformed comment about it only being SWG as it isn't.
SOE FTW! :P
i like soe...other than the swg debacle..(which is LAs fault)....i am having a BLAST in EQ2, and i started 3 months ago!
Sigil was the downfall of VG, and PE was the downfall of GnH....poorly mismanaged companies. The only thing i see SOE guilty of is investing time and resources with POS companies
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
Yes, you have proven that people hold a grudge because a business changed thier product and it was looked upon unfavorably.To even try to compare EQs and WoW success, or make the statement that EQs paled in reguards to WoWs proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. When EQ came out there was no MMORPG genre, there were a few games that had a cult following (pure love for UO and Meridian so dont jump me). The entire gaming community for MMORPGs was probably only a few 100 thousand people total. EQ put MMOs on the map and was the biggest success every. WoW came much after EQ, along with many other MMOs i might add so it was able to ride the wave that UO, EQ, AC, DAOC built. Not only that but the game brought in millions of players just from the Warcraft franchise, and probably some from Warhammer since they completely ripped them off.
You cant compare the two so dont try, you will just make yourself look stupid.
Something some of you may not realise is that gaming companies can change there game whenever they want to. They even make it easy for you to understand this by putting it right there on the box. If you dont like what the company does then leave and find a new game. All this hate will eat you up, plus make you look like kind of a jack-ass
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
And yes, Vanguard SoH is unfinished product, diplomacy is a great idea but implemented badly.... This is enough to say that game is bad. The fact that it is clearly unfinished is enough to say that the game is screwed.
And before flaming others, inform your self. Vanguard's main developer sad that he is sorry for publishing the game before it was finished, because he didn't have enough money. Who gives money? Publisher does.... SoE was publisher at that time. Then they replaced Sigil Games and are now main developers. What have they done? Nothing.
And btw, next time you really gonna flame others, keep in mind to write grammatically correct lines, and to have facts that will support your opinion. Because now you see what happens...... What have you done by quoting me at the first place? Nothing, but showing that you are uninformed about MMOs in general.
And just to add to original topic, again, SoE doesn't have anything to do with GnH development at all, the only thing is that they are paying, or are planning to play for the game publishing. The fact is that GnH was canceled because a new financier came and decided that this business leads to no where. It is logical that that financier is from SoE, if not, PE pays for GnH, and SoE is in charge for maintaining servers and publishing the game. They canceled GnH because STO will bring more players, and finally more money, and GnH isn't canceled for good, but just for some time. How long, no one knows, and maybe once it will be canceled for good. But for now, GnH fans can still hope.
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
Yes, you have proven that people hold a grudge because a business changed thier product and it was looked upon unfavorably.To even try to compare EQs and WoW success, or make the statement that EQs paled in reguards to WoWs proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. When EQ came out there was no MMORPG genre, there were a few games that had a cult following (pure love for UO and Meridian so dont jump me). The entire gaming community for MMORPGs was probably only a few 100 thousand people total. EQ put MMOs on the map and was the biggest success every. WoW came much after EQ, along with many other MMOs i might add so it was able to ride the wave that UO, EQ, AC, DAOC built. Not only that but the game brought in millions of players just from the Warcraft franchise, and probably some from Warhammer since they completely ripped them off.
You cant compare the two so dont try, you will just make yourself look stupid.
Something some of you may not realise is that gaming companies can change there game whenever they want to. They even make it easy for you to understand this by putting it right there on the box. If you dont like what the company does then leave and find a new game. All this hate will eat you up, plus make you look like kind of a jack-ass
Anyone hating SOE for their completely unnacceptable behavior doesn't look like jack asses to me, but responsible consumers.
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
Unless they release G&H when its 60% done, there not running into the same problem. Vanguard wasn't a finished game the damn guys at sigil said it when they all got canned. So stop hating on SOE they started the mmo genre.(yes i know ultima and muds were before Everquest, but Everquest started all the rest of the mmos you see out today and doesnt get no credit no more cuz of wack ass wow.
When it was announced that Sigil was partnering with SOE to publish Vanguard, the Sigil Vanguard forums erupted with a ton of 'I'm not going to buy this game now' posts. The majority of the folks who made those posts were pissed off former EQ players. SOE has done a wonderful job of pissing off a large number of their former customers, to the point where they will no longer buy products SOE is involved with.
EQ was SOE's only success. Even that success pales in WoW's shadow. That is why SOE has spent the last three years trying to copy WoW.
Yes, you have proven that people hold a grudge because a business changed thier product and it was looked upon unfavorably.To even try to compare EQs and WoW success, or make the statement that EQs paled in reguards to WoWs proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. When EQ came out there was no MMORPG genre, there were a few games that had a cult following (pure love for UO and Meridian so dont jump me). The entire gaming community for MMORPGs was probably only a few 100 thousand people total. EQ put MMOs on the map and was the biggest success every. WoW came much after EQ, along with many other MMOs i might add so it was able to ride the wave that UO, EQ, AC, DAOC built. Not only that but the game brought in millions of players just from the Warcraft franchise, and probably some from Warhammer since they completely ripped them off.
You cant compare the two so dont try, you will just make yourself look stupid.
Something some of you may not realise is that gaming companies can change there game whenever they want to. They even make it easy for you to understand this by putting it right there on the box. If you dont like what the company does then leave and find a new game. All this hate will eat you up, plus make you look like kind of a jack-ass
Anyone hating SOE for their completely unnacceptable behavior doesn't look like jack asses to me, but responsible consumers.
That's correct. I agree.And don't talk about hate just because someone doesn't like the game you play. Think, compare, don't flame and decide. Get used for critics on your game.
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
And yes, Vanguard SoH is unfinished product, diplomacy is a great idea but implemented badly.... This is enough to say that game is bad. The fact that it is clearly unfinished is enough to say that the game is screwed.
And before flaming others, inform your self. Vanguard's main developer sad that he is sorry for publishing the game before it was finished, because he didn't have enough money. Who gives money? Publisher does.... SoE was publisher at that time. Then they replaced Sigil Games and are now main developers. What have they done? Nothing.
And btw, next time you really gonna flame others, keep in mind to write grammatically correct lines, and to have facts that will support your opinion. Because now you see what happens...... What have you done by quoting me at the first place? Nothing, but showing that you are uninformed about MMOs in general.
And just to add to original topic, again, SoE doesn't have anything to do with GnH development at all, the only thing is that they are paying, or are planning to play for the game publishing. The fact is that GnH was canceled because a new financier came and decided that this business leads to no where. It is logical that that financier is from SoE, if not, PE pays for GnH, and SoE is in charge for maintaining servers and publishing the game. They canceled GnH because STO will bring more players, and finally more money, and GnH isn't canceled for good, but just for some time. How long, no one knows, and maybe once it will be canceled for good. But for now, GnH fans can still hope.
First, a little education in here, not everyone is ignorant, as yourself, to master only ONE language, some people speaks more than one, if not perfectly, enough to be understood, which is MUCH more of what can be said about you, let me give you a hint:
A falta de educação comprovada pela belicosidade e ignorância de algumas pessoas, presas em seu próprio mundinho se faz parecer no isntante que exara seus preconceitos, no entanto, deixa de perceber que ignorante é quem escreve e não tem capacidade de entender em outras linguas o mínimo possível. E ainda reclama que outros escrevem EM OUITRAS línguas de forma ´errada´.
I hope you got what I wrote to you, because EVERYTHING you write in english I will understand, but nothing I write on portuguese or french or spanish will be understood by you, simply because you are ignorant. Bashing others because their second language is not good and not having a second language is a sign of utterly ignorance and imbecility. Everyone can write in here, no matter how his or her english skill is, INCLUDING PEOPLE who can only understand ONE lnaguage... Thank this guy for sharing his thought in a language which YOU can understand, because there is only one you can understand...
I do hate this kind of behavior... Sorry to disturb the discussion, guys.
Now move along...
SOE destroy Vanguard?Well that new for me.Inform you a lil bit befor u write so a crap
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
And yes, Vanguard SoH is unfinished product, diplomacy is a great idea but implemented badly.... This is enough to say that game is bad. The fact that it is clearly unfinished is enough to say that the game is screwed.
And before flaming others, inform your self. Vanguard's main developer sad that he is sorry for publishing the game before it was finished, because he didn't have enough money. Who gives money? Publisher does.... SoE was publisher at that time. Then they replaced Sigil Games and are now main developers. What have they done? Nothing.
And btw, next time you really gonna flame others, keep in mind to write grammatically correct lines, and to have facts that will support your opinion. Because now you see what happens...... What have you done by quoting me at the first place? Nothing, but showing that you are uninformed about MMOs in general.
And just to add to original topic, again, SoE doesn't have anything to do with GnH development at all, the only thing is that they are paying, or are planning to play for the game publishing. The fact is that GnH was canceled because a new financier came and decided that this business leads to no where. It is logical that that financier is from SoE, if not, PE pays for GnH, and SoE is in charge for maintaining servers and publishing the game. They canceled GnH because STO will bring more players, and finally more money, and GnH isn't canceled for good, but just for some time. How long, no one knows, and maybe once it will be canceled for good. But for now, GnH fans can still hope.
First, a little education in here, not everyone is ignorant, as yourself, to master only ONE language, some people speaks more than one, if not perfectly, enough to be understood, which is MUCH more of what can be said about you, let me give you a hint:
A falta de educação comprovada pela belicosidade e ignorância de algumas pessoas, presas em seu próprio mundinho se faz parecer no isntante que exara seus preconceitos, no entanto, deixa de perceber que ignorante é quem escreve e não tem capacidade de entender em outras linguas o mínimo possível. E ainda reclama que outros escrevem EM OUITRAS línguas de forma ´errada´.
I hope you got what I wrote to you, because EVERYTHING you write in english I will understand, but nothing I write on portuguese or french or spanish will be understood by you, simply because you are ignorant. Bashing others because their second language is not good and not having a second language is a sign of utterly ignorance and imbecility. Everyone can write in here, no matter how his or her english skill is, INCLUDING PEOPLE who can only understand ONE lnaguage... Thank this guy for sharing his thought in a language which YOU can understand, because there is only one you can understand...
I do hate this kind of behavior... Sorry to disturb the discussion, guys.
Now move along...
Oh ho o....
First, English is not my native language. So before flaming, check it first. All you had to do, is to click on my name, and see where do I come from. Now you showed who is ignorant here.......
Second I speak 3+ foreign languages, and my native. (English, German, Croatian as my native, and 4 languages of my neighbor countries, of Slavic origin. Think of it as the same, but languages in Slavic origin are quite a different.So a word ignorant is out of the question.
I, on the second tough, won't fall down to your level, to insult or to speak on language that is not a part of general form of communication on this website, and that is English language, because I have respect for this community, and have a right to speak, you on the other hand have insulted me, and disturbed the nice chat that was going on here. I said my opinion, someone flamed me, because our opinions were different, I defended my self, and now you came.
All i have to say is chill, because you overreacted for banal thing. And stop insulting others, because it is so threadbarely of you to insult and then apologize to community, and ending with line ''now move along'' like you are some boss around here.
And I won't react on the next insult coming from you, or anyone else, you flame and insult. One day your behavior will get payed in real life.
And I am sorry because you can't express your opinion on these forums without getting flamed and insulted. Pity...
If its truth that you speak 3 foreign languages (which I dont believe, for the reasons I will state soon) then you are not an ignorant only.. You are also someone without sensibility, an ogre for the lack of better word... How can you speak 3 foreign languages and bash on people who cant spell very well in other language? Secondly, to state an idea, if you really believe it, you DO NOT start an argumentation trying to put down, PERSONALLY the writer of the idea, offending his writing skills, but debate the IDEA... Therefore, you are an ignorant for NOT knowing how to argument.
I dont believe that you speak other laguages simply because if you did, you should have a little more of sensibility to know that NOT EVERYONE starts speaking 2 or 3 languages properly for a LOT of reasons, and everyone try hard to communicante IN THE WAY THEY CAN, bashing those tries and BEING THERE ALSO shows a tremendous lack of sensibility (and ignorance for not knowing how to argument).
Next time you disgree with someone, try to hide your racism problems (hide on an utterly defense of a languange which ACCORDING TO YOU, isnt even your native language). If you wish to look like an english or an american, good luck for you, but the radical defense of english grammar do not make you an american or an english, sorry... By the way, I do speak 4 languages as well, and my native language is VERY hard to be mastered, there is NO FOREIGN who speaks properly it, God knows that not my own people speak it properly, but I dont bash not EVEN THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY WHO DO NOT SPEAK THEIR OWN LANGUAGE PROPERLY, you know why? Because I would sound like a jerk if I do it on a open forum...
Funny how you accuse me of flaming, when you start (START, for godsake!!) a post with:
First learn English and learn how to type, then talk to others on English.
I would ask you who you think you are to order someone to ´learn english´ before speaking in here , but suddenly it became a waste of time..
I would say to you to First learn how to behave on an adult communty before talking to others on ANY language. But that also will fall.. As you told me, and it seens you enjoy to feel yourself superior, you will have your turn on real life also ...
I spoke what I felt the need to speak, I trully apologize to everyone else in here, but I dont like to see people trying to put others down only to feel himself superior. Not coming back to this discussion.
The reason he flamed the other person was because they were mocking others on how they have written their arguements. If your going to use that kind of line, then at least be able to write properly yourself. Understand?
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Perpetual has no gone out of business, SOE had absolutely nothing to do with God's and hero's being put on hold.
This was posted on Star Trek Gaming Website
Gods and Heroes, Perpetual's other title has been cancelled;
Daron Stinnett, Exective Producer for Star Trek Online also made this statement to Trekmovie.com; This comes after multiple layoffs and delays for the game earlier on this year.StarTrek-Online.net also suggests that the company may have been subject to a take-over or new investors, however, this is yet to be confirmed.
They want to put everything into ONE title so it's a huge hit rather then splitting their efforts among two marginal titles and mess up Star Trek Online their cash cow.
Well if canceling GnH will lead to STO being better, then STO, according to what they have said, should rise so high in glory, to become No 1 in the means of numbers of subscribers, and probably be better then LOTRO or EQ II on top tens lists. we know that world is full of ST fans, eve more then LOTR fans, so if it will be great, as the say, great things are about to happen in MMO business