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jessenj
Member Posts: 3
I've been an avid player of these games for several years (since Beta) and NCSoft has several times banned my account temporarily for conduct they find violates their Rules of Conduct, however, I can never get out of them how I violated any terms.
I just recently got banned from the game for creating a character named Rumple4skin. This is the second ban in the last year. The last one was for a character named Dirty Unkie. While some of you may find that these names are stretching the limits of appropriateness, I can't get NCSoft to tell me in any specific terms how they violate their ROC or EULA, yet, as a paying customer, I'm being denied access to a service I PAY FOR for something they can give me no specific information about.
This is my response to their ban:
I don't understand why this character was renamed and why I was banned. I haven't logged into my account in a few days so I'm surprised that I was banned today.
This is really unfair. Several times in the past (as I've been a member for over 3 years), whenever I'm banned for something NCSoft deems inappropriate, it always comes right before the weekend which is completely unfair as that is the time when I and many others play the most.
I would like to appeal this ban decision since it I believe it is unfounded and unfair. Also, because I haven't logged in in several days, I believe that this ban is an issue of profiling and would like to have some kind of discussion with an account administrator.
The more I play this game, the more I find the judicial calls of NCSoft to be inconsistent, biased and unfair. I play the game because my friends play, and I've been a loyal PAYING subscriber for a few years and this is really TERRIBLE treatment of a loyal customer.
DISPICABLE!!!
The response I just received from NCSoft for the current ban was:
The character was renamed because of the inappropriate anatomical reference. Such references are not permitted in character names. The account was temporarily suspended for 72 hours due to the repeated violations of the rules which have occurred on your account. Please be aware that the account has exhausted all leniency which we are able to extend and any further violations of the rules of any kind will result in its permanent termination. If you have any further questions or concerns, please let us know and we will get back to you as quickly as possible.
Please keep in mind that this is from their ROC:
3. You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive language.
4. You may not post or link to any sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive imagery or content.
Below is only a partial list but should give you some examples of inappropriate character names that we cannot allow. This limited list includes or refers to:
Cursing and foul language
Inappropriate or obscene conduct
Racial slurs
Derogatory names
Sexually explicit names
References to body parts
Impersonation of a NCSoft employee
Names referring to another person in-game
Acronyms or phonetic variations of anything regarding the above categories
So, my final response was as such:
This is really just ridiculous. How does a person know what NCSoft will deem inappropriate? There is no democracy here and I didn't at any point break any rules of conduct as you describe as "inappropriate anatomical reference". I was also suspended because of a character I created called Dirty Unkie. What is an Unkie? I have my own definition but there are no definitions in the dictionary, and yet NCSoft deemed it inappropriate and I think this is really just a bunch of bullying tactics to get players to conform to an imaginary set of rules that NCSoft makes up as they go along. Show me any reference in any of the ROC or EULA that specifically states that what I did is wrong or inappropriate? I made no reference to anything sexually explicit in either case and yet, it has been deemed inappropriate.
WHO DECIDES YOUR RULES? This action is a direct conflict of your own terms of use, and statements such as "Please be aware that the account has exhausted all leniency which we are able to extend" gives me no indication that I'm not being specifically targeted at this point for a biased attack.
At this point, I would like to escalate this issue to someone who actually can provide for me direct terms on how I violated these "imaginary" rules as I don't see anything wrong with my actions.
Good day.
Someone help me understand how to formally appeal their this insane Neo-Con treatment. I can't be the only one who's tired of getting bullied.
Thanks,
Jesse
Comments
ok........
Start off being a bit polite at first, you'll need that later in IRL.
I have to respond...just have to. First off, I side with NCSoft on how they handled this matter, simply because it is "their" game. Remember it is a privilege, not a right, to play "their" game. There is no democracy in the business world. They made the rules which govern the game and you agreed to accept them when you clicked on "Agree" button. Though you are a paying customer any buisiness has the right to deny service if they feel you are not worthy of their service due to inappropriate actions "you" decided to employ that went against NCSofts TOS.
Sorry.
I don't know what you're trying to say here. The 4skin name was clearly a breach of a naming policy as it was clearly inappropriate. You say it's the second time you've been flagged for name breaches. After the first time, any normal person would be a little more wary of what they name their character.
I could log into WoW, create a character with a name that is against their terms and conditions, get banned and then make an identical thread telling people to boycott WoW.
It's not NCsoft that did something wrong, it's your attitude.
I side with NCSoft. Their game, their rules. You had already been warned and pushed the limits again.
Enjoy your 3 days off and when you get back, I recommend not pushing the limits anymore.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I call
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Good to Know NCSoft is enforcing the rules. This is part of the reason why I will continue to play CoX
This seems more like an advertisement to play CoH than to boycott it.
Nice to hear that NCSoft is keeping the rubbish out.
When you log into the game you accept that they have oversight. You clearly enjoy being one of the edgy cool guys who like to bend the rules and throw around terms like Neo-con and talk about democracy etc. No doubt you are the product of a mediocre, underfunded American public school. Either that or you have some sort of mental problem that has something to do with your sociopathic tendencies.
You got what you deserve.
No one is going to boycott anyone
4 SKIN?
If you want to continue to play games with tasteless character names, I suggest you play EvE online... where I have seen names like "Leakybeefcurtains" among others.
There will be no boycott.
Thats the problem I have right there. I didn't violate their terms as they are described. There was never any conflict with the rules and they have taken an action based on personal interpretations of their rules and not actual terms. My grievance is that each time an action has been taken against me, it wasn't an action deemed inappropriate by the company but by an individual. How is that right?
Boycott CoH/CoV because you're a spoiled brat bent on seeing how far you can push the mods?
Sure thing, I'll get right on that.
I think you should push them again. I'm sure you'll be sorely missed by the CoX community after you're perma-banned.
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"Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb." -- Batman
Most of the time these things occur because other people have complained or were offended by the name you used, which brought it to the attention of NCSoft. You may as well move on, you're playing a loosing hand here......
meh. Them banning you is all more reason to respect them.
Not only will there be no infantile boycott, they should be lauded for their efforts to keep the rabblerousers out.
Just let it go, from just a handful of replies that this thread has got, not one agrees with you, and each person would have done exactly the same. You wouldn't of course because it was your character that was affected and you feel unjust.
on a side note - i'm pretty disappointed with the lack of support from fellow gamers. I understand that some of you may feel a "holier than thou" attitude and need to preach but my issue is simple:
How did I breach any of their terms specifically? What was offensive?
As for the comment about being "edgy" and coming from substandard publicly educated background, not only does it not merit a retort, but how is it at all relevant to this subject?
Go back to the beginning of my post where I said that I've been a member for over 3 years. Loyally sinking more than a $100 per year into their game. How am I supposed to know what someone else may find offensive? For god's sake, what if my name means "Fu*k You" in Farsi, does that mean I shouldn't use my name now either? Its all a matter of personal tolerance and NCSoft is exercising personal believes rather than adhering to their own rules.
When I first read your tirade I thought you must be the most brillaint comedy writer.
Sort of an ironic way of pretending to be oblivious and upset at the same time. Like something Peter Griffin would do.
"In the times I am banned, it is done before the weekend". Oh my god...what kind of ridiculous troll are you that you are upset a the timing of the ban being before your peak trolling period?
You named your character FORESKIN!!! Say that out loud.
Do you think that is appropriate? a Dirty uncle?
Give us a break.
Here is my advice:
PLEASE BOYCOTT COH. Please BOYCOTT COV. In fact Boycott all MMOs.
Go out in the real world for a little while. Meet some real people.
Tell them your name is "Rumple foreskin" and make robot noises or whatever socially retarded things you probably want to do in real life.
Get your butt kicked a few times as a result of your social ineptness.
Then when you have learned how to interact in real life, you should lift your boycott and enjoy the games like the people on the rest of the planet.
you Named a character Rumple4skin and Dirty Unkie...If you cant see how that violates the rules set by NCsoft let alone good taste you are going to have a hard time in life when you have to go out and be an adult some day.
1) Even though you're complaining that you didn't break the rules and it was someone's personal opinion, you're wrong. Foreskin is a body part (something specifically stated as against the rules and notice how it can apply to any body parts before you try to argue any further about that) and nobody is stupid enough to believe you randomly put the number 4 before skin coincidentally.
2) What does this even have to do with Neo-Conservatism? Do some research before you start spouting terms like that. I hope you don't vote because you're woefully uninformed.
Is the OP really this ignorant?
I still think he's a brilliant comedian.
No sane person could expect not to be banned with such names, especially somebody who played MMOs for 3 years.
no a comedian would have stopped after the first post.
Did i read 'democracy' in there?
OP, you're a smart ass little punk. Take your childish rules logic and your rumpled4skin and go sit in the corner.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online