I find it hilarious that this thread grew 3 pages in 3 hours. Even trial code threads don't grow that fast.
To the OP, if you want a real opinion here it is. Your behavior makes you look like an ass. Claiming you didn't understand it makes you look like an idiot too. If that's not the look you were going for, you might want to stop complaining about everyone else and start changing your own behavior.
Maybe he is a troll, but then, some people dont understand what a private club is. You pay membership fees, and they kick you out anytime they want, with or without reason. The guy wrote them a letter saying he spent a $100 in subscription fees? LOL the game company had to spend all that $100 on paying someone to ban you several times. So in the end, they made nothing off of you. No wonder they cut you lose. You better spend a lot more than a hundred bucks if you want a game company to give a rats ass about you...
on a side note - i'm pretty disappointed with the lack of support from fellow gamers. I understand that some of you may feel a "holier than thou" attitude and need to preach but my issue is simple:
How did I breach any of their terms specifically? What was offensive?
As for the comment about being "edgy" and coming from substandard publicly educated background, not only does it not merit a retort, but how is it at all relevant to this subject?
Go back to the beginning of my post where I said that I've been a member for over 3 years. Loyally sinking more than a $100 per year into their game. How am I supposed to know what someone else may find offensive? For god's sake, what if my name means "Fu*k You" in Farsi, does that mean I shouldn't use my name now either? Its all a matter of personal tolerance and NCSoft is exercising personal believes rather than adhering to their own rules.
Fellow gamers? Sorry who is your fellow? No one here feels for you.
Where did you go wrong you ask? First respect, you character name shows up on the screen of other gamers, have some respect for them. Second common sense. Exercise common sense when dealing with people. Third learn from mistakes. It appears that you do not exercise common sense in the past and got banned. You still don't learn? Or is that so funny to keep trying and get banned again and again?
Your $100 a year is nothing in their income statement. Before you start praising your contributing, start counting the resources you wasted CoX. They might have received a million complaints against your ingame behaviour and wasted 1000000 thousand manhours of ingame GMs trying to comfort the offended players. You almost cost them 50million account cancellation. And you dare mention your $100.
With your social skills or your deliberate attempts to provoke to gain publicity (negative ones), its lucky you are only banned in a game.
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I've been an avid player of these games for several years (since Beta) and NCSoft has several times banned my account temporarily for conduct they find violates their Rules of Conduct, however, I can never get out of them how I violated any terms.
I just recently got banned from the game for creating a character named Rumple4skin. This is the second ban in the last year. The last one was for a character named Dirty Unkie. While some of you may find that these names are stretching the limits of appropriateness, I can't get NCSoft to tell me in any specific terms how they violate their ROC or EULA, yet, as a paying customer, I'm being denied access to a service I PAY FOR for something they can give me no specific information about. This is my response to their ban: I don't understand why this character was renamed and why I was banned. I haven't logged into my account in a few days so I'm surprised that I was banned today.
This is really unfair. Several times in the past (as I've been a member for over 3 years), whenever I'm banned for something NCSoft deems inappropriate, it always comes right before the weekend which is completely unfair as that is the time when I and many others play the most.
I would like to appeal this ban decision since it I believe it is unfounded and unfair. Also, because I haven't logged in in several days, I believe that this ban is an issue of profiling and would like to have some kind of discussion with an account administrator.
The more I play this game, the more I find the judicial calls of NCSoft to be inconsistent, biased and unfair. I play the game because my friends play, and I've been a loyal PAYING subscriber for a few years and this is really TERRIBLE treatment of a loyal customer.
DISPICABLE!!! The response I just received from NCSoft for the current ban was: The character was renamed because of the inappropriate anatomical reference. Such references are not permitted in character names. The account was temporarily suspended for 72 hours due to the repeated violations of the rules which have occurred on your account. Please be aware that the account has exhausted all leniency which we are able to extend and any further violations of the rules of any kind will result in its permanent termination. If you have any further questions or concerns, please let us know and we will get back to you as quickly as possible. Please keep in mind that this is from their ROC: 3. You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive language.
4. You may not post or link to any sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive imagery or content.
Below is only a partial list but should give you some examples of inappropriate character names that we cannot allow. This limited list includes or refers to:
Cursing and foul language
Inappropriate or obscene conduct
Racial slurs
Derogatory names
Sexually explicit names
References to body parts
Impersonation of a NCSoft employee
Names referring to another person in-game
Acronyms or phonetic variations of anything regarding the above categories So, my final response was as such: This is really just ridiculous. How does a person know what NCSoft will deem inappropriate? There is no democracy here and I didn't at any point break any rules of conduct as you describe as "inappropriate anatomical reference". I was also suspended because of a character I created called Dirty Unkie. What is an Unkie? I have my own definition but there are no definitions in the dictionary, and yet NCSoft deemed it inappropriate and I think this is really just a bunch of bullying tactics to get players to conform to an imaginary set of rules that NCSoft makes up as they go along. Show me any reference in any of the ROC or EULA that specifically states that what I did is wrong or inappropriate? I made no reference to anything sexually explicit in either case and yet, it has been deemed inappropriate.
WHO DECIDES YOUR RULES? This action is a direct conflict of your own terms of use, and statements such as "Please be aware that the account has exhausted all leniency which we are able to extend" gives me no indication that I'm not being specifically targeted at this point for a biased attack.
At this point, I would like to escalate this issue to someone who actually can provide for me direct terms on how I violated these "imaginary" rules as I don't see anything wrong with my actions.
Good day.
Someone help me understand how to formally appeal their this insane Neo-Con treatment. I can't be the only one who's tired of getting bullied. Thanks, Jesse
Man can`t you just figure out a normal name for your characters?
I just recently got banned from the game for creating a character named Rumple4skin. This is the second ban in the last year. The last one was for a character named Dirty Unkie. I don't understand why this character was renamed and why I was banned.
WHO DECIDES YOUR RULES?
I summed up that drivel into five lines.
Look what we have here... We have a little boy. Go home and drink some milk little boy.
You don't make the rules and you never will.
Why? Because powerful people will always rule over the weak... guess where you are in that equation.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
So, my final response was as such: This is really just ridiculous. How does a person know what NCSoft will deem inappropriate? There is no democracy here and I didn't at any point break any rules of conduct as you describe as "inappropriate anatomical reference". I was also suspended because of a character I created called Dirty Unkie. What is an Unkie? I have my own definition but there are no definitions in the dictionary, and yet NCSoft deemed it inappropriate and I think this is really just a bunch of bullying tactics to get players to conform to an imaginary set of rules that NCSoft makes up as they go along. Show me any reference in any of the ROC or EULA that specifically states that what I did is wrong or inappropriate? I made no reference to anything sexually explicit in either case and yet, it has been deemed inappropriate.
WHO DECIDES YOUR RULES? This action is a direct conflict of your own terms of use, and statements such as "Please be aware that the account has exhausted all leniency which we are able to extend" gives me no indication that I'm not being specifically targeted at this point for a biased attack.
At this point, I would like to escalate this issue to someone who actually can provide for me direct terms on how I violated these "imaginary" rules as I don't see anything wrong with my actions.
This must be a joke, according to his profile he is 35-years old!
Children are this stupid and people with limited mental functions but that would preclude his writing a post and getting most of the words spelled correctly.
Something is amiss...
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
When it all comes down to it, what you named your character is actually irrelevant. If you read the entire EULA, you will find this statement;
"The Customer agrees that the Publisher may take whatever steps it deems necessary to abridge, or prevent behaviour of any sort on the Service in its sole discretion, without notice to the Customer."
In other words, the Publisher (NCSoft) can do whatever they like, when they like, without any validation or even notification.
If you read the EULA thoroughly, it quite clearly tells you that your avatars, characters, items and anything else you create, manufacturer or invent using their software and service is licensed irrevocably to them; in other words, it's not your property in any way, shape or form.
So the bottom line is that the EULA you agree to every time you click "I Accept" allows NCSoft to do pretty much whatever they want with your character and account, including banning, name changing or anything else they may wish to do and you have no rights whatsoever in that regard.
So your personal viewpoint on character names is moot. Honestly, by their own EULA, they didn't even have to notify you, they could have just canceled your account outright.
If you've been playing the game for three years to date, you have agreed to every version and update of their EULA, which means you agreed to play by their rules in their game.
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I find it hilarious that this thread grew 3 pages in 3 hours. Even trial code threads don't grow that fast.
To the OP, if you want a real opinion here it is. Your behavior makes you look like an ass. Claiming you didn't understand it makes you look like an idiot too. If that's not the look you were going for, you might want to stop complaining about everyone else and start changing your own behavior.
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I stick my original assessment of the OP. He is a Nobody is that dense. He's BS'ing you.
Maybe he is a troll, but then, some people dont understand what a private club is. You pay membership fees, and they kick you out anytime they want, with or without reason. The guy wrote them a letter saying he spent a $100 in subscription fees? LOL the game company had to spend all that $100 on paying someone to ban you several times. So in the end, they made nothing off of you. No wonder they cut you lose. You better spend a lot more than a hundred bucks if you want a game company to give a rats ass about you...
lol my main character is names hookker and is dressed barely at all but they dont do anything 2 me at all cept say i look cute
Where did you go wrong you ask? First respect, you character name shows up on the screen of other gamers, have some respect for them. Second common sense. Exercise common sense when dealing with people. Third learn from mistakes. It appears that you do not exercise common sense in the past and got banned. You still don't learn? Or is that so funny to keep trying and get banned again and again?
Your $100 a year is nothing in their income statement. Before you start praising your contributing, start counting the resources you wasted CoX. They might have received a million complaints against your ingame behaviour and wasted 1000000 thousand manhours of ingame GMs trying to comfort the offended players. You almost cost them 50million account cancellation. And you dare mention your $100.
With your social skills or your deliberate attempts to provoke to gain publicity (negative ones), its lucky you are only banned in a game.
without a doubt....
he doesn't seem to notice
absolutely
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lol - agreed
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Man can`t you just figure out a normal name for your characters?
... Can't we get him banned from here aswell? Please?
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What server do you play on?
I would love to see that character.
That way I can send a petition and get that name and costume genericed. The only downside of CoH/V is all of the immature players running around.
I think you got the attention you were seeking, and now you're upset about it?? who's foolin who here.
I summed up that drivel into five lines.
Look what we have here... We have a little boy. Go home and drink some milk little boy.
You don't make the rules and you never will.
Why? Because powerful people will always rule over the weak... guess where you are in that equation.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
...Oh wait, your serious.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This must be a joke, according to his profile he is 35-years old!
Children are this stupid and people with limited mental functions but that would preclude his writing a post and getting most of the words spelled correctly.
Something is amiss...
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
When it all comes down to it, what you named your character is actually irrelevant. If you read the entire EULA, you will find this statement;
"The Customer agrees that the Publisher may take whatever steps it deems necessary to abridge, or prevent behaviour of any sort on the Service in its sole discretion, without notice to the Customer."
In other words, the Publisher (NCSoft) can do whatever they like, when they like, without any validation or even notification.
If you read the EULA thoroughly, it quite clearly tells you that your avatars, characters, items and anything else you create, manufacturer or invent using their software and service is licensed irrevocably to them; in other words, it's not your property in any way, shape or form.
So the bottom line is that the EULA you agree to every time you click "I Accept" allows NCSoft to do pretty much whatever they want with your character and account, including banning, name changing or anything else they may wish to do and you have no rights whatsoever in that regard.
So your personal viewpoint on character names is moot. Honestly, by their own EULA, they didn't even have to notify you, they could have just canceled your account outright.
If you've been playing the game for three years to date, you have agreed to every version and update of their EULA, which means you agreed to play by their rules in their game.
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Adnihilo
Beorn Judge's Edge
Somnulus
Perfect Black
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Heh, at least this thread is good for a laugh...
And that is about it.
just make a normal name is it that hard?