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  • BlitzBladeBlitzBlade Member Posts: 71

    Originally posted by MetaSeven


    Ok, they didn't mention KOTOR … well …
     

    LucasArts and BioWare Corp. to Create Ground-Breaking Interactive Entertainment Product
     
    SAN FRANCISCO, CA and EDMONTON, CANADA -- October 30, 2007 -- LucasArts and BioWare Corp. today announced that they have entered into an agreement to create an interactive entertainment product. The product, details of which will be unveiled at a later date, will be developed and published by BioWare and LucasArts, and will push the boundaries of the gaming market by utilizing the strengths of both companies to deliver an innovative, high-quality experience. [Read More]

     

     

    Wait until BW releases MASS EFFECT. Then we will see an official KOTOR trailer!

  • metalazometalazo Member Posts: 39

     

    Originally posted by Exar_Kun


     
     
     
    Important news re: Star Wars Galaxies: The Complete Online Adventures
    From: LucasArtsStore.com
    Sent: Thu 10/25/07 10:22 AM

    Dear Customer,



    We regret to announce that Lucasarts will no longer be producing Star Wars Galaxies: The Complete Online Adventures as a physical retail package on CD or DVD. We will therefore cancel your pending order for this item. As direct downloading of this game eliminates the need for shipping costs and shipping lead times, we hope this is a satisfactory alternative for you. We again apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.



    Sincerely,

    LucasArtsStore (StarWarsShop)

    Customer Service



    According to the Lucasarts store it says it will be back in stock in Nov 2007:

     

    http://store.lucasarts.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=405665;category_id=481;pcid1=;pcid2=

    Either they changed their minds, or the person who sent you that email and cancelled your order did not know what they were taling about or the stores website has not been updated to reflect that information.

    Unless the DVD version is being updated to include the Royal Pickup ITV I would go for the download version anyway

  • Exar_KunExar_Kun Member Posts: 242
    Originally posted by BlitzBlade


     
    Originally posted by MetaSeven


    Ok, they didn't mention KOTOR … well …
     

    LucasArts and BioWare Corp. to Create Ground-Breaking Interactive Entertainment Product
     
    SAN FRANCISCO, CA and EDMONTON, CANADA -- October 30, 2007 -- LucasArts and BioWare Corp. today announced that they have entered into an agreement to create an interactive entertainment product. The product, details of which will be unveiled at a later date, will be developed and published by BioWare and LucasArts, and will push the boundaries of the gaming market by utilizing the strengths of both companies to deliver an innovative, high-quality experience. [Read More]

     

     

     

    Wait until BW releases MASS EFFECT. Then we will see an official KOTOR trailer!



    Lets hope!

  • BlitzBladeBlitzBlade Member Posts: 71

    Originally posted by metalazo


     
    Originally posted by Exar_Kun


     
     
     
    Important news re: Star Wars Galaxies: The Complete Online Adventures
    From: LucasArtsStore.com
    Sent: Thu 10/25/07 10:22 AM

    Dear Customer,



    We regret to announce that Lucasarts will no longer be producing Star Wars Galaxies: The Complete Online Adventures as a physical retail package on CD or DVD. We will therefore cancel your pending order for this item. As direct downloading of this game eliminates the need for shipping costs and shipping lead times, we hope this is a satisfactory alternative for you. We again apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.



    Sincerely,

    LucasArtsStore (StarWarsShop)

    Customer Service



    According to the Lucasarts store it says it will be back in stock in Nov 2007:

     

    http://store.lucasarts.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=405665;category_id=481;pcid1=;pcid2=

    Either they changed their minds, or the person who sent you that email and cancelled your order did not know what they were taling about or the stores website has not been updated to reflect that information.

    Unless the DVD version is being updated to include the Royal Pickup ITV I would go for the download version anyway

     

    The biggest thing IOM is not the fact they are not making SWG, but the fact they are no longer funding expansions.

  • Bane82Bane82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,242

    Well, when you think about it Blitz, SOE cornered itself when it made SWG the way it was. It restricted itself A LOT by putting SWG strictly between episodes 4 and 5, I can't see them coming out with any further expansions UNLESS they unanymously agree to slowly start pushing the time line forward... kinda in the same fashion that LOTRO is trying to do. In other words the game actually progresses and doesn't stay static and doesn't stay in say "January 1st 2007" as an example.

    When you think about it, a lot of MMO's are static in this respect. In Age of Conan for example, they set the timeline after the conan movies and conan is king and forever in this MMO conan will be king, he won't age, he won't die ever. Now, because this takes place AFTER the movies and nothing much is written after the movies, this makes it easier for them to come up with expansions.

    With SWG unfortunately, SOE was so stupid enough to put the timeline in between movies, which means they can't do a darn thing unless it fits in with the events of that era. Now KOTOR on the other hand is different, KOTOR has so much history and so many events, and because it's so far removed from the movies it allows for a lot of creative events to happen and for a lot of expansions to be made.

  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679

    You underestimate just how much influence LA had on the development of SWG, pre and post release. SOE may have been crap in the way they handled things and implemented the ideas, but LA was the driving force behind most of the major changes and decisions in their pursuit of conquering the genre and making as much money as possible off of the license.

  • LinnaLinna Member Posts: 387

    Originally posted by Bane82


    Well, when you think about it Blitz, SOE cornered itself when it made SWG the way it was. It restricted itself A LOT by putting SWG strictly between episodes 4 and 5, I can't see them coming out with any further expansions UNLESS they unanymously agree to slowly start pushing the time line forward... kinda in the same fashion that LOTRO is trying to do. In other words the game actually progresses and doesn't stay static and doesn't stay in say "January 1st 2007" as an example.
    When you think about it, a lot of MMO's are static in this respect. In Age of Conan for example, they set the timeline after the conan movies and conan is king and forever in this MMO conan will be king, he won't age, he won't die ever. Now, because this takes place AFTER the movies and nothing much is written after the movies, this makes it easier for them to come up with expansions.
    With SWG unfortunately, SOE was so stupid enough to put the timeline in between movies, which means they can't do a darn thing unless it fits in with the events of that era. Now KOTOR on the other hand is different, KOTOR has so much history and so many events, and because it's so far removed from the movies it allows for a lot of creative events to happen and for a lot of expansions to be made.

    That hasn't really stopped them before. Adding in Mustafar and Kashyyyk was just a blatantly attempt to link into movies 1-3. I never really COULD see relevance to the imperial/rebel war we were supposed to be fighting. They CLAIMED they were 'slowly moving the story forward', but all I see was regressing. Wish they would have added Hoth in stead....

    Linna

  • AlboinAlboin Member Posts: 64

    to metalazo: this capital ships stuff was shown at the funfest 2004 or 2005. They aren'tt doing anything new, just re-packaging old.

    to MetaSeven: good points indeed. Although as I see  it  they're not improving anything, but just simulating some activity to keep at least current subscription base paying. Doubtfully they can come up and say: "Thats it, folks, we're pulling the plug next year". They will be simulating some activity and re-packaging old features selling them as new - very very cheap way to keep customers paying. At some point - will it be SWG2, KOTOR or whaever onlinestarwarsy - current swg will be down, cause probably the best franshise in the entertainment business was treated like a dock hooker.

    What I don't understand is if there is any confirned knowledge about SOE's license being exclusive or not. I tried googling only fan speculations founded.

     

  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959

    lol people are talking about the capital ship thing?

    lol that NEVER was going to be an ingame thing, i was at the damn Conference when they played it the 1st time .. its was a spotlight to show off the skills of the new ART team period. they said it at least 30 times that night that this was not a game plan. what made it an issue is during the customer feel good conferences they held they asked if you would like to see cap ships in game then gave about 15 technical reasons why they cant do it without CUing space.

     

     

     

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • MetaSevenMetaSeven Member Posts: 20

     

    Originally posted by Alboin


    to MetaSeven: good points indeed. Although as I see  it  they're not improving anything, but just simulating some activity to keep at least current subscription base paying. Doubtfully they can come up and say: "Thats it, folks, we're pulling the plug next year". They will be simulating some activity and re-packaging old features selling them as new - very very cheap way to keep customers paying. At some point - will it be SWG2, KOTOR or whaever onlinestarwarsy - current swg will be down, cause probably the best franshise in the entertainment business was treated like a dock hooker.
    What I don't understand is if there is any confirned knowledge about SOE's license being exclusive or not. I tried googling only fan speculations founded.

     

    I know very well where you are coming from and I agree that they do not 'really' improve the game from our point of view, as one can see quite easily that they reboil the same things for years. They just ressurrected Aurellia and pimped it with some attrite assets they haven't already overused a thousand times. They introduced some more grind what they euphemistically call 'collections', which is in nothing more than, in fact, a highscore (whoohoo) so that the folks can get overexcited that they killed a few hundreds of quenkers and see their name displayed on a website. To be fair, they also added new instances. In one you can earn a bullhead as a backpack. True story.

    With all polemics, they do not 'simulate activity'. They in fact add things to the game. Nothing to write home about it for us, although there are some people who like it. There are people who even play monotonous asia grinder games which jumped the shark years ago - each to his own.

    The exclusive license or non-exclusive license was some informed speculation. Mister Smedley and the Jake Neri have said they will continue with SWG and exclusive/non-exclusive license stuff is much more reasonable than 'pulling the plug'.

  • sinstersinster Member Posts: 118

    when pre-cu servers come online in early '08 the nge will be a distant memory, the fanbois will move to tabula

    rasa and this mistake will be rectified. pic related.

     

  • BlitzBladeBlitzBlade Member Posts: 71

    Originally posted by sinster


    when pre-cu servers come online in early '08 the nge will be a distant memory, the fanbois will move to tabula
    rasa and this mistake will be rectified. pic related.
     

    pre-CU servers?

    Explain plz...all I hear is "THERE WILL BE NO ROLLBACK!"

  • epf1epf1 Member Posts: 162

    Originally posted by sinster


    when pre-cu servers come online in early '08 the nge will be a distant memory, the fanbois will move to tabula
    rasa and this mistake will be rectified. pic related.
     

    As much as I would like to see that happen, I think there are to many stubborn and greedy ego's in the way.

    However, miracles have happened before so perhapps...

     

  • sinstersinster Member Posts: 118

    Originally posted by BlitzBlade


     
    Originally posted by sinster


    when pre-cu servers come online in early '08 the nge will be a distant memory, the fanbois will move to tabula
    rasa and this mistake will be rectified. pic related.
     

    pre-CU servers?

     

    Explain plz...all I hear is "THERE WILL BE NO ROLLBACK!"

    oh pre-cu is on the way. just not from SOmEone who broke it.... new server tech is nice. like loading in 500

    characters to one sector with zero lag. it is going to rock! funny how our game is coming back and the current game is on death watch...no pun intended!

  • BlitzBladeBlitzBlade Member Posts: 71

    Originally posted by sinster


     
    Originally posted by BlitzBlade


     
    Originally posted by sinster


    when pre-cu servers come online in early '08 the nge will be a distant memory, the fanbois will move to tabula
    rasa and this mistake will be rectified. pic related.
     

    pre-CU servers?

     

    Explain plz...all I hear is "THERE WILL BE NO ROLLBACK!"

    oh pre-cu is on the way. just not from SOmEone who broke it.... new server tech is nice. like loading in 500

     

    characters to one sector with zero lag. it is going to rock! funny how our game is coming back and the current game is on death watch...no pun intended!

    I still don't understand....Where are these new servers comming from? If not SOE, then who will run them. When is this going to take place. How is it that SOE is finally seeing the light?

  • sinstersinster Member Posts: 118
    Originally posted by BlitzBlade


     
    Originally posted by sinster


     
    Originally posted by BlitzBlade


     
    Originally posted by sinster


    when pre-cu servers come online in early '08 the nge will be a distant memory, the fanbois will move to tabula
    rasa and this mistake will be rectified. pic related.
     

    pre-CU servers?

     

    Explain plz...all I hear is "THERE WILL BE NO ROLLBACK!"

    oh pre-cu is on the way. just not from SOmEone who broke it.... new server tech is nice. like loading in 500

     

    characters to one sector with zero lag. it is going to rock! funny how our game is coming back and the current game is on death watch...no pun intended!

     

    I still don't understand....Where are these new servers comming from? If not SOE, then who will run them. When is this going to take place. How is it that SOE is finally seeing the light?

    i p'med you the info.

  • blutigfaustblutigfaust Member UncommonPosts: 129
    Originally posted by sinster


    when pre-cu servers come online in early '08 the nge will be a distant memory, the fanbois will move to tabula
    rasa and this mistake will be rectified. pic related.
     



    LOL, so in other words....DONt DRINK THE COOL-AID. ( nice )

    Current games playing: MechWarrior Online
    Games being watched:  Project Genom
    Favorite played games: SWG, RomaVictor, and Xsyon

  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679

    He's talking about the emulator, which is the biggest pile of crap ever cause they can't get their hands on the server code, which means reverse engineering it all.

    Don't see them ever finishing it to be honest.

  • sinstersinster Member Posts: 118
    Originally posted by bobfish


    He's talking about the emulator, which is the biggest pile of crap ever cause they can't get their hands on the server code, which means reverse engineering it all.
    Don't see them ever finishing it to be honest.

    dude...not only is it nearly done but they found a unreleased planet...taanab. beta in december.

  • Bane82Bane82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,242


    Originally posted by Linna
    Originally posted by Bane82 Well, when you think about it Blitz, SOE cornered itself when it made SWG the way it was. It restricted itself A LOT by putting SWG strictly between episodes 4 and 5, I can't see them coming out with any further expansions UNLESS they unanymously agree to slowly start pushing the time line forward... kinda in the same fashion that LOTRO is trying to do. In other words the game actually progresses and doesn't stay static and doesn't stay in say "January 1st 2007" as an example.
    When you think about it, a lot of MMO's are static in this respect. In Age of Conan for example, they set the timeline after the conan movies and conan is king and forever in this MMO conan will be king, he won't age, he won't die ever. Now, because this takes place AFTER the movies and nothing much is written after the movies, this makes it easier for them to come up with expansions.
    With SWG unfortunately, SOE was so stupid enough to put the timeline in between movies, which means they can't do a darn thing unless it fits in with the events of that era. Now KOTOR on the other hand is different, KOTOR has so much history and so many events, and because it's so far removed from the movies it allows for a lot of creative events to happen and for a lot of expansions to be made.
    That hasn't really stopped them before. Adding in Mustafar and Kashyyyk was just a blatantly attempt to link into movies 1-3. I never really COULD see relevance to the imperial/rebel war we were supposed to be fighting. They CLAIMED they were 'slowly moving the story forward', but all I see was regressing. Wish they would have added Hoth in stead....
    Linna

    Linna, I didn't say that the planets wouldn't necessarily exist during the timeline. But you're right, because they cornered themselves with that timeline, they ended up going backwards, rather than forwards, and lets be honest here, were those two expansions really succesful to begin with? As you said, they tried to tie it to episodes 1-3 and because it didn't have any relevance whatsoever to the GCW, the expansions didn't really hold any appeal. In fact, if you read here in the forums, the expansion most players seem to want is Hoth (as a PvP area) why? because it holds more interest and it actually does have relevance to the civil war the players SHOULD be fighting.

  • Bane82Bane82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,242


    Originally posted by sinster
    Originally posted by bobfish He's talking about the emulator, which is the biggest pile of crap ever cause they can't get their hands on the server code, which means reverse engineering it all.
    Don't see them ever finishing it to be honest.
    dude...not only is it nearly done but they found a unreleased planet...taanab. beta in december.

    Wow that's awesome! I myself would never join an SWG Emu though, sorry I still have issues with that. But all the best to the team anyway... is there any chance you can post pics (of the planet and the map on the datapad) so I can take a look at? It'd be interesting.
  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679

    LucasArts have closed down free mods for Half Life, Homeworld, Freespace and other games, why would they let you run an illegal server of SWG?



    And I find it hard to believe it's that far along, if it is though, nice work.

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