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Thinking of giving it another go...
Mithrandolir
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I know that you guys & gals have been seeing a lot of these threads... but I am thinking of giving this one another go.
I played in beta and the first two months of release. I sunk around 100 hours or so into it after it launched. I was VERY hyped up about this game but my performance was horrible. My machine isn't the best, but I feel like I should have at least been able to run the game on low settings, and yet I couldn't... decently.
I have an Athlon 64 X2 4600+ dual core with 2 gb DDR2 800 dual channel ram, x-fi xtreme gamer sound card, 250gb SATA HDD and a 7600GT 256 vid card, OC'd edition. (I know... I need a new vid card...).
I drooled over the innovation this game was bringing with it, I loved the classes and races and the lore. I love the content and the extreme open endedness that Sigil worked into this game. I simply ran ointo bug after bug and with horrible performance.
I always told myself that I would come take another look but then there were mergers, SOE taking over post-release development, etc... you all know the story better than I. So I decided to wait a bit more.
Now I am happily engrossed in Tabula Rasa, having played every mainstream mmorpg to date minus WWIIO, I am completely happy with TR's position and loving playing it. Still, I usually run 2 mmorpgs and would love to run a fantasy based one along side TR... especially one that does things a bit differently from the run of the mill and offers a pretty huge world to explore, ala VG 
Now I am reading that SOE is kicking butt and taking names in straightening this thing up. Is that correct? That would rock and be perfect timing for me
So I am going to fire it up I think and give it a whirl. I can not make any upgrades to my PC right now but games like EQ2, LoTRO and HL2/Oblivion, all run really great with high detail and purr right along.. so hopefully I can scrape through VG on at least low settings now... No matter how amazingly great this game looks, it doesn't scale down well, take a look at it on lowest settings... ack... I'll endure that if it plays fairly smooth though.
So... this is just a hello post, hope to see some of you in game. My name is Vrog Groggor and I am a Goblin Shaman (I believe he was level 13 when I left) I probably won't play any of my other characters that i had made and I know I even deleted a few before leaving.
In closing, I'd like to state that I think Shassell said it best when he said, " "
/salute
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I am patching right now, primarily because my duo partner in EQ could not stay late tonight.
It says 7 minutes left.... I am eager to see the "new" Khal.
Vanguard has such great vision to the game that remains unfulfilled. My point remains the same: either scrap it and make SWG 2 or give it the funding it needs to take it to the next level.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
I am having fun. In the game now. I got a group right away.
Beautiful, stunning graphics. A great world feel; they should do more with it. Use it more.
I have some twiching/hitching issues and some graphical problem. I will get screenshots. Hmph. I had a graphic problem but now it is fixed....
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
An a final aside, feels a lot like EQ 1. My group is sharp; they all play very well and are very focused.
Remember in old-school EQ 1? If you were not great, but only good, you sucked. In Vanguard, good groupers are excellent groupers.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I've watched VG's development now since Beta 2. I even subscribed from launch day and leveled to 50. This game holds a place in my heart. However, I'm holding off on rejoining it until the New Year as I am hoping new content will come in (after the Ancient Port Warehouse raid dungeon) and this game will start to shine like it should have 1 year ago.
To me it is definately the next step after the likes of WoW and EQ2 if you're looking for something a little....bigger, more in depth and ...dare i say it....immersive.
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Well after a couple of days of trying this one out again (thanks for the buddy key!) it'll simply be smart of me to quietly walk away from VG, probably for the last time
Good luck all and Happy Holidays!
/salute
Have they done anything to make the crafting more user friendly ? Any less forced grouping ?
Other then bug fixing and speeding up xp a bit crafting is pretty much the same. However I for one Hope they don't change crafting as it is one of the best crafting systems in any game.
Force grouping has never been an issue in vanguard. You can play it just about however you like. There are many solo things you can do and you can solo your way to the end of the game. Not to mention that diplomacy and crafting are both completely solo. You can grab a partner and do small group content which is fun. Or you can put together a full group and head into the depths of a dungeon.
So when you say force grouping I'm not really sure what you mean.
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Ethion
Class has a lot to do with it as well i think.A warrior will have a real hard time soloing all the way to lvl 50 and i think i rogue would have it pretty ruff as well.
In reality every class could solo to lvl 50 but that means some classes killing 2 dots and doing a lot of green quests.When people ask for solo in vg i would bet most are talking that wow type solo where its real quick..like 5 days quick.
There is not a single class in vg that could solo up to lvl50 in 5 days on his own.Vg solo is not practical for most classes so grouping does become the quicker way to level up.
I 80% soloed to lvl 50 on my bard and shammy but once you start getting to raz/th and lucent circle/ tranquil thought/ crypt/gorgolog quests and armor you bet your ass its time to group.
Like you said its however you want to play the game, solo can mean a lot of different things to player and what we perceive as not forced grouping others may think it is even though the words are not used.
Like it or not vg is a grinding game but me as an old eq1 vet can handle it but many others just want to get there quick.I manage to go away to work 3 days a week away from pc and have a family life plus social and still find time to play.
When play i hit the game hard for how many hours i am on, it could be 3 or 6 but i don't let up.I am now on my 3rd toon which is necro and will stick to the same remedy.
I'm gonna wait until the new year before I strongly consider coming back to VG. Hopefully in the next couple months we'll see more cities and other areas redone like Khal. Also, I'd like to see real boss and named mobs in the game. Not just 6 dot named mobs that have more hp than regular mobs but look exactly the same.. Thats lame to me. I'd also like to see SOE pretty much force people into grouping to do dungeon runs early because If everyone solo's and does those writs to 50, they will all suck when it comes to the end game. I remember playing from beta throough to April and any pug's I was forced to do around my mid 20's - 30's absolutely went horrible because most people who ran pug's simply did NOT know their character role, they didn't perform their role, nor did they understand how group strategies and tactics worked. I'm a vet of EQ 1 and obviously EQ was a game where u had to group to progress through the game. If the Devs wanted to make Vanguard like EQ, they wouldn't have made it too solo friendly.
As it is right now, who's to stop people from soloing to 50 and purchasing all their new equipment from the AH when they reach higher levels?
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
1) I agree with named bosses; we need more unique looking bosses, and they should be all throughout this enormous world and not inside of dungeons or a port warehouse.
[And these named bosses should be available for defeat by small groups and full groups. Heck, if I were a developer, I would design named bosses that could be solo'd; but developers are terrified of anything and everything that smells like a meaningful and fun solo opportunity.]
2) I think the writ system should be expanded. The writ system is really a small group system, but it can be solo'd inefficiently. The writ system is a part of the game's lore in the area you complete those tasks. Gamers have an opportunity to log-in and accomplish meaningful tasks that are a part of the game's lore and offer rewards. The writ system is one of the best features to Vanguard.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
I took a few characters into the low 20's before I left. I recall crafting back then as never being able to make anything I could use or I could sell to others(did woodworking). Crafters never knew what they could make or at what level. VG kept giving double play xp so players advanced far faster than crafters.Of course crafting was bugged.My ranger could NEVER make a bow he could use even though his craft level was higher than his ranger level.Heck he couldn't even make great arrows.etc etc.Don't want to get into a rant on crafting.I'm just looking for a good game and hoping this game has come around.
On grouping..of course you can solo to 50....the first 50 did exactly that.But grinding solo isn't fun and players want to feel they actually accomplished something for the hour or so they spend.EQ2 discovered that the hard way with lack of meaningful solo content and never recovered.
I play these games to group for the most part.
I might solo here and there a bit, especially if the baby has me going AFK a bit, etc... but ultimately I play mmo's to group up and have fun
VG just doesn't allow me to do that with the performance that I get
I can run EQ2 and Galaxies (ugh) maxxed out with everything cranked without any issues, I can play TR and HG:L maxxed out without issues, and SP games too like Oblivion and HL2 all cranked, and yet I can't even run VG on it's lowest settings and get playable framerates
I know there are people playing flawlessly... but for me... the performance is only a tiny bit better than when it released.
They must have really changed a lot since launch going by what i read here. Forced grouping was one of the things that annoyed me so much in VG 9later levels anyway). Might give it another blast after new year once the current fotm has bored me/us lol.
I'm going to give it one more full day or so of tweaking to see if I can't get it to run a little better.
I really do want to like this game, so much potential.
Just curious to your system set up. I have an AMD dual 4000+ 2 gb ram and a geforce 8500, i can play on balanced np at all and the game runs great. The odd lag pocket here and there but other then that it looks and plays great.
I don't have any other problems with any other games. I mean zero issues. I run comepletely clean, no adware/spyware, defrag often, no bloatware running in the background, VG just spits at me, lol
I'll keep playing with settings.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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I see your above post, upgrade to an 8800GT and you will be singing a different song.
Oh I know my vid card is way dated, but it should still run better than it does on low settings considering how other current games run on high and very high for me.
WOW!! Dropping back to the 163.69 drivers from the 163.75's was key!
My performance issues just went away it looks like!
I'm at Balanced settings with medium high textures and lots of other things cranked and it's running really smooth!
*knocks on wood*
I didn;t think that much changes from 163.69 to 169.75 that would cause that type of incompatibility.
I still need to tweak a little bit with the settings, but this is MUCH better.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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Well upgrading my card at this time is not an option.
I run everything else just fine. Stalker, TR, HG, EQ2, LoTRO, HL2, Bioshock, absolutely no issues running these games on as high of settings as is available to me in the options, all I was saying is that I should at least be able to run VG on low, since VG really doesn't look that good until you reach mid to higher settings... In fact, it looks downright horrible on low settings.
Luckily, since my last post, I've actually been playing a bit with the settings and am able to play on high setting with fairly decent FPS and performance, so all is well.
But I definitely won;t be upgrading my card until at least mid to late next month, possible after the new year
So if my newfound performance hike takes a crap, I'll have to sit it out. If this ever had the chance to be my primary game, I'd find a way to upgrade now... but I am ok with just not playing if it comes down to that, this is just a secondary game for me.
These are the specs on my VG box btw... I not only beat the min specs but I meet or beat every spec for the recommnded specs. That's the only reason I assumed it would run on at least low settings
Windows 2000/XP
2.4 GHz Intel or 2400+ or higher model AMD process
512 MB RAM
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible computer
100% DirectX compatible keyboard or input device
Vertex and Pixel shader 2.0 compatible hardware with 128 MB of texture memory
100% DirectX compatible sound card
56K+ internet connection
16X speed DVD-ROM
20 GB of hard drive space
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Windows 2000/XP/Vista
3.0 GHz Intel or 3500+ AMD processor
2 GB RAM
100% DirectX 9.0c compatible computer
100% DirectX compatible keyboard or input device
Vertex and Pixel shader 2.0 compatible hardware with 256MB of texture memory
DirectSound compatible audio hardwarehttp://forums.tentonhammer.com/showthread.php?p=11529
Broadband internet connection
16X speed DVD-ROM
20 GB hard drive space
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I run Call of Duty 4 liquid smooth with a 6800 on medium settings and it looks WAY better than Vanguard...... so I dont see why Vanguard requires such a beefy system