Eve is a visually spectacular game, the basics are pretty simple and and easy to grasp. The community is huge and there is always someone willing to help (for whatever reason). There are multiple paths for a character to take and the diversity of skills is amazing. Your career in Eve is just about whatever you want it to be. On that level Eve is probably one of the best games there is.
Downsides, I have played Eve for over a year now and I'm not sure if I would recommend it, it's fun in and of itself but the company running it is terrible (CCP must have the worst customer service in the business if in fact they have ever heard of the term) server lag is also a serious problem, client crashes are once again an issue and several pretty fundamental bugs still exist)
If you can accept the downsides then give it a try, I think game play wise you wont be dissapointed.
One of the things I love about the game is the passion not only put into playing the game, but put into what goes on outside of the game. Community created videos are one of the best parts. Here is one that convinced me to really play again.
Fountain Alliance is an alliance made up of more than 1000 players that controls a large section of the EVE Universe. m0o Corporation is a band of heavily experienced players that focuses completely on PVP and Piracy. You are watching whats known as a "fleet battle", or simply on of the largest battles the game has seen. Every Square is a real player fighting for a cause.
What you can't see is the amazing LAG....... which probably accounts for a large proprotioon of the losses. Fleet battles are the reason many of us joined Eve and is still the major reason some of us play, it is also one of the most flawed aspects of the game, despite that, it's pretty amazing to watch one and when things work right it's pretty amazing to take part in one.
I don't have problem with lag in EVE, I'm using a DSL line. Maybe Eve is laggy with 56k modem ?
By the way CCP is implementing a big server cluster to match the amount of simultaneously connected players (+10K !!!!)
Eve is a great game especially if you were an Elite fan. Don't listen to people who pretend to have mastered the game because they were able to buy a couple of fregates and pwned the empire npc pirates. These are clueless noobs.
Any long time player who hunted pirates or made some PvP in 0.0 won't tell you that it is an easy thing
Considering that 14 days in EVE is almost for sure enough to find for yourself that it is one of the most boring mmorpgs out there,maybe you should try it.
Also,noticed you said you're interested in dynamic pvp combat and the only mmorpg that has a decent pvp is still Asheron's Call,not AC2.However,the PvP only server mainly consists of very old players and the roleplaying part is hardly still there.
pvp in eve is one of the most misuderstood and underated parts of the game.
yes there is a high learning curve, and it is unlike alot of the other types of pvp games. solo pvp is almost impossible unless the situation arrises perfectly, most pvp is between corps and or alliances, between pirates and their hapless victoms, or between a corp or alliance and a pirate(s). If your in a solo pvp situation .. you are either ganking someone or someone is ganking you. (which doesnt usualy ammount to much of a fight)
If you want to see combat in action then head to a player controled station and/or choke point and wait. It is not a continual midless fighting, it is strategic and tactical in nature and as far removed from an FPS as is possible (thank goodness). pvp is not for new players unless you can find people to work with. solo pvp in the first week of the game is lame... as you shall see. one needs to build skills, equipment, ships .. and learn how to use them all.
it is not a point and click combat as most people think.. although pointing and clicking appears on the surface to be what happens. It is the selection of eq, and when and where and on whom to use it, becomes a complicated dance, most effectively accomplished with alot of help from experience players.
I have a high speed connection (very high speed), virtually EVERY fleet battle I have been involved with has experienced lag for one side or the other.
Eve is a great game, if adding nodes solves the lag problem and it will be welcomed, but if you look at ABSOLUTELY ANY report on fleet combat one side (if not both) will remark about lag.
Eve is a great game, but still needs some fundamental improvements and CCP needs to get their act together. The basic principles of Eve are easy (very easy) thats not to say they don tget more complex, PvP play in Eve relies on an understanding of both your ship and the modules you are equipping.
Take the 14 day trial, if you like it, play it, if you don't move on and find one you do like, but if you are into space based games Eve will probably be your only real choice.
This is my video. I'm very pleased that by watching this Video you decided to play EVE. Contact me in game if you want to get involved in PvP. We need people at all levels. From frigate pilots to battleship pilots. It is true that you can be extremely effective in pvp only flying a cheap frigate. You see those ships getting blown up in the video. Nearly all of them are "tackled" so they can't warp away by frigates. Without tacklers you very rarely get a kill.
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Originally posted by _belial Yes I do prefer fantasy mmorpg's more, but that's not to say i'm not willing to try other genres (would I have bothered to try EVE if that was the case?), SWG for example, has one of the most amazing profession/skill systems i've used an an MMORPG, it's not fantasy is it? but it's sure as hell more fun than EVE is.
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Erm...SWG has 2 classes, Crafting classes and combat classes. To train crafting classes you sit with a pile of material A, B and C and craft widget 1, till you get the skill to the next level, then you build widget 2, ad infinium. The combat classes are a little different as you take missons from mission terminals and then go spam various specials till the mission is done, then rinse and repeat....Oh, but they do have this neat feature where you can forget all the experience you got in a profession so you can train up another profession, but if you want to retrain the previous profession, you have to start from scratch like you've never trained that profession before.
[quote]Originally posted by Minsc Erm...SWG has 2 classes, Crafting classes and combat classes. To train crafting classes you sit with a pile of material A, B and C and craft widget 1, till you get the skill to the next level, then you build widget 2, ad infinium. The combat classes are a little different as you take missons from mission terminals and then go spam various specials till the mission is done, then rinse and repeat....Oh, but they do have this neat feature where you can forget all the experience you got in a profession so you can train up another profession, but if you want to retrain the previous profession, you have to start from scratch like you've never trained that profession before. Pure genius I tell you.
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That's the most ridiculous argument ever, i'm sure you could say that ANY mmorpg could be described as having 2 "base" classes of crafting and combat, I mean come on!
Compared to eve which seems to have erm, let me think, erm, mining people or erm, shooting people, how can you even think the SWG system is in any way inferior? Yes there are crafting, combat, did you forget entertainer and explorer style classes from which you can create multitudes of derivatives. Yes you have to drop your skill points to train another profession, but who's forcing to you train another profession? You'd rather everyone would master every profession would you? That would just lead to no variety at all in any characters in the game if everyone could do all the stuff.
As for picking up missions from mission terminals, they're no different from agents in eve, you get destroy missions, delivery missions, exactly same as in eve.
You've obviously got a chip on your shoulder about SWG, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, this is the EVE section of the forum after all. But i've tried my best with eve, 5 days of play now, done countless missions, learned countless skills but it just feels empty and pointless. Yes there will be people who disagree, that's fine, wouldn't be much fun if we were all the same would it (although you seem to think it would considering your SWG and dropping skills comment )
// Carl
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Originally posted by DoctorRat Thanks for the input. I've basically learned to tune out what crock says, he seems to hate everything that doesent make him a god in the first day. I used to the like that, too, though. I think I'll give the game a shot, I dont mind being kicked around by veteran players as long as some of them are nice to me.
I could not agree with you more.
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Hello every1.... I'm new here (actually I just signed up).... I am very interested in EVE-Online and was really wondering ok, there is a fabulous PvP system but how about large scale battles? (daoc style).... Does that happen? Is the way the battle evolve good or sucky or even inexistable?
Thanks alot for any information.... It's good to be here.
If you want huge pvp combat join a corp that is there for war. There are a number of pure fighting corp. Some of them are meaner than others but most have plenty of huge wars going. :P
For those of you debating SWG....face it SWG's mission system is pretty lame. IMO it is mainly because they are all the same. There are at least story differences in EVE. There are also more types in EVE. There are Marketing, Storage, Security, Administration, Manufactoring, Research...there are a ton. You can be told to do anything from spying to making items to destroying things. The rewards are also well worth the effort compared to SWG which you basically did the best you could do...you'd chain up a bunch of them and run from each killing. Got pretty boring. I'd also like to mention combat in SWG was fairly stale. You'd initiate combat...choose a stance, que up some skills, watch it go by and *yawn*. This isn't an insult as I could see how the game can be fun to a certain type of player but these are fairly accurate points. Now Eve does have downsides...for one the missions tend to take a lot longer, you have to work your way up to level 4+ agents which can take a very very long time but I believe the reward is worth it. I prefer Eve btw. :P I got bored of SWG quick.
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Thanks for the info Dienekes, Well I have been playing EVE some hours now (i've got the trial version) and it is actually very very good and immersive... It's a bit hard to learn but the depth of this game is tremendous.
Originally posted by Zipeh I have been playing eve for over 20 months now, beta and release, and im still learning stuff all the time from the community and my corp m8s. i still find myself torn in 16 directiions, always having things to do and not enough time to do them in. You will love EvE if you liked Elite. If you like buying, selling, manufacturing then eve is your game. If you dont want to have to do millions of silly missions or repetative activities to level up. (there are missions if you want but they grant you money - stuff - blueprints and npc standings.
If you like pvp then eve is awesome.. either a quick ship v ship fight, or a long winded chase down and destroy of a pesky pirate, or being a pirate waiting at a well traveled area for an unwarry carebear to wander by, or if you want the big fleet engagements that will boggle your mind.
No game i have seen to date even remotely comes close to the strategic element in terms of pvp, to say nothing of the tactical side, which deals with everything from skills - to ship choice - to equipment selection (which is stupidly complex if you want it to be) - actual pilot experience, and most important in my books, is good leadership and control.The system of corporations and alliances is another area that makes eve great, but there elements are existant in other games. needless to say the alliance system (presently player setup and controled - which will become game setup and controled soon) brings in alot of the plot lines that make the game that much more fun. Alliance wars are constantly ongoing, allowing all the pvp one could want.Pirates abound in eve, so if you like griefing .. then look no further There are several types in eve, some nice, (ie true to their word), and some not so nice (those that take your toll and then kill you). Then there is M00, they dont want your money they just want to kill you. Aside from their stipud name they are a great group of players.If you like making stuff, buying and selling stuff, trading, profiteering, speculating, or resource gathering then eve will satisfy your needs that way as well. Prices for many goods are dynamic and player driven. Speculation on where goods prices will go after a new element is ontroduced into the game can make a person rich with little effort.That enough rambling ??
Anyone looking into EVE must read this, then read it again
I have been playing for 14 months now and have never grown tired of it. The SA vs CA fights will always keep us busy.
(edit: one thing to be aware of: PVE is very limited, PVP is most of what I like to do though)
Just curious but how many skill points do you have MrPopov?
I can see myself playing this game well into the future. I think the hardest part is getting started but once you do and you see all the options in the game open up for you you start to love the game more and more.
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Originally posted by Dienekes Just curious but how many skill points do you have MrPopov? I can see myself playing this game well into the future. I think the hardest part is getting started but once you do and you see all the options in the game open up for you you start to love the game more and more. "Feel free to hate me, but hate me for the right reasons." "Your still ignorant if you believe the first thing you see when the blindfold is removed.""Be smart enough to know I'm smarter than you."
I quit playing for about 3 months during that 14 month time, so not as high as some: 11,507,000
I'm new to EVE and trying it out as well. I like the player-run economy, the trade and corporation-system. Getting skills offline is a great feature as well.
But mining and transport missions are boring as in any other game as well.
I'm also VERY disappointed that I can't fly my ship myself, that there is no flight model, no manual docking on stations, no purpose for my 3D-Avatar, no walking on stations, no landing on planets.
Played Jumpgate some time...I really like how to fly there and the great flight model of the ships that took into account the kind of freight and its weight onto the flight dynamics of my ship. Regarding flying spacehips...Jumpgate has more to offer!
In EVE its just point & and click and autopilot...imho stupid and boring!
And the look of the spaceships! I've never seen so ugly-looking spacehips as in EVE! The look of the spacehips alone would be a reason NOT to play EVE... My Galante Maulus looks like a flying rollerblade that has been crossed with a diseased champignon...
Ok I exaggerate... ;-)
I actually got a full account and will finish my 30 days...maybe if I get deeper into corp and trade features I'll have more fun with it...
My suggestion would be to have ai-employes who do the mining, so that the player can concentrate on PvP, Management, Politics.
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My suggestion would be to have ai-employes who do the mining, so that the player can concentrate on PvP, Management, Politics.
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shiva patch will bring in player bases that will draw "stuff" from the moons around which they orbit, but i dont know if they will generate the isk / minerals like you would like.
also alot of people, such as myself and my copr m8s, do not mind mining as much as some. It is possible to play eve without mining, and then buy the mins from players that do. or do security for miners in deep space, or security for the haulers heading back ot the refineries, thereby taking a % of the mining op.
Not to be rude, but alot of younger player hate to mine, while the older ones seem to enjoy a good corp mining op. somethign about the working together and chatting, watching tv, etc.. while making isk that i find quite attractive. if i want action action action .. i play an fps.
Originally posted by Costy I'm new to EVE and trying it out as well. I like the player-run economy, the trade and corporation-system. Getting skills offline is a great feature as well. But mining and transport missions are boring as in any other game as well. I'm also VERY disappointed that I can't fly my ship myself, that there is no flight model, no manual docking on stations, no purpose for my 3D-Avatar, no walking on stations, no landing on planets. Played Jumpgate some time...I really like how to fly there and the great flight model of the ships that took into account the kind of freight and its weight onto the flight dynamics of my ship. Regarding flying spacehips...Jumpgate has more to offer! In EVE its just point & and click and autopilot...imho stupid and boring! And the look of the spaceships! I've never seen so ugly-looking spacehips as in EVE! The look of the spacehips alone would be a reason NOT to play EVE... My Galante Maulus looks like a flying rollerblade that has been crossed with a diseased champignon... Ok I exaggerate... ;-) I actually got a full account and will finish my 30 days...maybe if I get deeper into corp and trade features I'll have more fun with it... My suggestion would be to have ai-employes who do the mining, so that the player can concentrate on PvP, Management, Politics.--------------------------------------------- Costy Stosstrupp Gold a german speaking World War II Online allied squad 110th Infantry Regiment 2 DINA, III Corps, ArFr, AHC
Yes, some people enjoy the laid-back'ness' of mining and trucking, and others don't. It's nothing you have to do though.
If there was manual flying you'd get so much lag you'd wish it is the way it is now, trust me on this one it's a netcodes worst nightmare for so many players to be moving around in all dimensions at specific degrees, rather than just informing the computer to 'go there'. And believe me after the 398th time of docking at the same station if you have a 'homebase' of some kind, you'd be very tired of manual docking. It would become more of an annoyance than a fun feature.
Landing on planets is a debatable thing but if you want to get a better idea of why it wouldn't really work too hot, you can go to the forum thread 'The giant misconception of EVE-Online'. Moving around on stations would be kind of worthless, and again just irritating over time, I remember that's one thing I couldn't stand in EnB amongst countless other things.
You don't like the ship designs in EVE? They're ingenious! I guess we can't win them all, look buddy this game's probably just not for you.
Wish you better luck wherever you go.
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I have just started playing EVE, about 6 weeks ago, and I must say, I absolutly love it!
I know that this is not a game to play if you want instant results, the skill progression does take ages, and traveling from system to system takes a life time, but hell, this is a space game!
MMORPG'S are meant to be a form of game that you will spend a lot of time working on. The character you play in the game is not just a one dimensional sprite that you so often see shot in many games, but a part of that universe, and it grows along with it's enviroment. I know it sounds freaky, but I like seeing that character develop and almost take on life of thier own.
My advice, get stck into this game and explore. Join a Player Corp as soon as you can, and enjoy every minuet of it. If you want a game that envolves no character development or interest in the world around you, go play Counter strike
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Best part of EVE - PvP. PvP isn't limitted to combat, EVE is all-PvP, including trading, mining, combat, research. You always compete. Also I have never seen another community as passionate about their game as EVE's. Btw should be me somewhere in that Fountain vid
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Eve is a visually spectacular game, the basics are pretty simple and and easy to grasp. The community is huge and there is always someone willing to help (for whatever reason). There are multiple paths for a character to take and the diversity of skills is amazing. Your career in Eve is just about whatever you want it to be. On that level Eve is probably one of the best games there is.
Downsides, I have played Eve for over a year now and I'm not sure if I would recommend it, it's fun in and of itself but the company running it is terrible (CCP must have the worst customer service in the business if in fact they have ever heard of the term) server lag is also a serious problem, client crashes are once again an issue and several pretty fundamental bugs still exist)
If you can accept the downsides then give it a try, I think game play wise you wont be dissapointed.
One of the things I love about the game is the passion not only put into playing the game, but put into what goes on outside of the game. Community created videos are one of the best parts. Here is one that convinced me to really play again.
Fountain Alliance is an alliance made up of more than 1000 players that controls a large section of the EVE Universe. m0o Corporation is a band of heavily experienced players that focuses completely on PVP and Piracy. You are watching whats known as a "fleet battle", or simply on of the largest battles the game has seen. Every Square is a real player fighting for a cause.
http://eve.skjalfti.is/video/community/incoming/FountainWar.wmv
What you can't see is the amazing LAG....... which probably accounts for a large proprotioon of the losses. Fleet battles are the reason many of us joined Eve and is still the major reason some of us play, it is also one of the most flawed aspects of the game, despite that, it's pretty amazing to watch one and when things work right it's pretty amazing to take part in one.
I don't have problem with lag in EVE, I'm using a DSL line. Maybe Eve is laggy with 56k modem ?
By the way CCP is implementing a big server cluster to match the amount of simultaneously connected players (+10K !!!!)
Eve is a great game especially if you were an Elite fan. Don't listen to people who pretend to have mastered the game because they were able to buy a couple of fregates and pwned the empire npc pirates. These are clueless noobs.
Any long time player who hunted pirates or made some PvP in 0.0 won't tell you that it is an easy thing
Just some details :
a Frigate cost under 100K Isks, a Battleship cost around 80-90M Isks
You can imagine that a player who thinks that having a couple of frigates knows all about Eve is far from the truth.
Considering that 14 days in EVE is almost for sure enough to find for yourself that it is one of the most boring mmorpgs out there,maybe you should try it.
Also,noticed you said you're interested in dynamic pvp combat and the only mmorpg that has a decent pvp is still Asheron's Call,not AC2.However,the PvP only server mainly consists of very old players and the roleplaying part is hardly still there.
pvp in eve is one of the most misuderstood and underated parts of the game.
yes there is a high learning curve, and it is unlike alot of the other types of pvp games. solo pvp is almost impossible unless the situation arrises perfectly, most pvp is between corps and or alliances, between pirates and their hapless victoms, or between a corp or alliance and a pirate(s). If your in a solo pvp situation .. you are either ganking someone or someone is ganking you. (which doesnt usualy ammount to much of a fight)
If you want to see combat in action then head to a player controled station and/or choke point and wait. It is not a continual midless fighting, it is strategic and tactical in nature and as far removed from an FPS as is possible (thank goodness). pvp is not for new players unless you can find people to work with. solo pvp in the first week of the game is lame... as you shall see. one needs to build skills, equipment, ships .. and learn how to use them all.
it is not a point and click combat as most people think.. although pointing and clicking appears on the surface to be what happens. It is the selection of eq, and when and where and on whom to use it, becomes a complicated dance, most effectively accomplished with alot of help from experience players.
I have a high speed connection (very high speed), virtually EVERY fleet battle I have been involved with has experienced lag for one side or the other.
Eve is a great game, if adding nodes solves the lag problem and it will be welcomed, but if you look at ABSOLUTELY ANY report on fleet combat one side (if not both) will remark about lag.
Eve is a great game, but still needs some fundamental improvements and CCP needs to get their act together. The basic principles of Eve are easy (very easy) thats not to say they don tget more complex, PvP play in Eve relies on an understanding of both your ship and the modules you are equipping.
Take the 14 day trial, if you like it, play it, if you don't move on and find one you do like, but if you are into space based games Eve will probably be your only real choice.
Eve is the best MMO out there right now in my opinion.
This is my video. I'm very pleased that by watching this Video you decided to play EVE. Contact me in game if you want to get involved in PvP. We need people at all levels. From frigate pilots to battleship pilots. It is true that you can be extremely effective in pvp only flying a cheap frigate. You see those ships getting blown up in the video. Nearly all of them are "tackled" so they can't warp away by frigates. Without tacklers you very rarely get a kill.
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Erm...SWG has 2 classes, Crafting classes and combat classes. To train crafting classes you sit with a pile of material A, B and C and craft widget 1, till you get the skill to the next level, then you build widget 2, ad infinium. The combat classes are a little different as you take missons from mission terminals and then go spam various specials till the mission is done, then rinse and repeat....Oh, but they do have this neat feature where you can forget all the experience you got in a profession so you can train up another profession, but if you want to retrain the previous profession, you have to start from scratch like you've never trained that profession before.
Pure genius I tell you.
[quote]Originally posted by Minsc
Erm...SWG has 2 classes, Crafting classes and combat classes. To train crafting classes you sit with a pile of material A, B and C and craft widget 1, till you get the skill to the next level, then you build widget 2, ad infinium. The combat classes are a little different as you take missons from mission terminals and then go spam various specials till the mission is done, then rinse and repeat....Oh, but they do have this neat feature where you can forget all the experience you got in a profession so you can train up another profession, but if you want to retrain the previous profession, you have to start from scratch like you've never trained that profession before.
Pure genius I tell you.
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That's the most ridiculous argument ever, i'm sure you could say that ANY mmorpg could be described as having 2 "base" classes of crafting and combat, I mean come on!
Compared to eve which seems to have erm, let me think, erm, mining people or erm, shooting people, how can you even think the SWG system is in any way inferior? Yes there are crafting, combat, did you forget entertainer and explorer style classes from which you can create multitudes of derivatives. Yes you have to drop your skill points to train another profession, but who's forcing to you train another profession? You'd rather everyone would master every profession would you? That would just lead to no variety at all in any characters in the game if everyone could do all the stuff.
As for picking up missions from mission terminals, they're no different from agents in eve, you get destroy missions, delivery missions, exactly same as in eve.
You've obviously got a chip on your shoulder about SWG, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, this is the EVE section of the forum after all. But i've tried my best with eve, 5 days of play now, done countless missions, learned countless skills but it just feels empty and pointless. Yes there will be people who disagree, that's fine, wouldn't be much fun if we were all the same would it (although you seem to think it would considering your SWG and dropping skills comment
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// Carl
Currently Playing : anything to keep me occupied until EQ2 comes out
// Carl
Currently Playing : EQ2 of course
I could not agree with you more.
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I survived the first destruction, to see the end of the Second World
and the beginning of the Third and Fourth.
Hello every1.... I'm new here (actually I just signed up).... I am very interested in EVE-Online and was really wondering ok, there is a fabulous PvP system but how about large scale battles? (daoc style).... Does that happen? Is the way the battle evolve good or sucky or even inexistable?
Thanks alot for any information.... It's good to be here.
To Cold_Wire:
If you want huge pvp combat join a corp that is there for war. There are a number of pure fighting corp. Some of them are meaner than others but most have plenty of huge wars going. :P
For those of you debating SWG....face it SWG's mission system is pretty lame. IMO it is mainly because they are all the same. There are at least story differences in EVE. There are also more types in EVE. There are Marketing, Storage, Security, Administration, Manufactoring, Research...there are a ton. You can be told to do anything from spying to making items to destroying things. The rewards are also well worth the effort compared to SWG which you basically did the best you could do...you'd chain up a bunch of them and run from each killing. Got pretty boring. I'd also like to mention combat in SWG was fairly stale. You'd initiate combat...choose a stance, que up some skills, watch it go by and *yawn*. This isn't an insult as I could see how the game can be fun to a certain type of player but these are fairly accurate points. Now Eve does have downsides...for one the missions tend to take a lot longer, you have to work your way up to level 4+ agents which can take a very very long time but I believe the reward is worth it. I prefer Eve btw. :P I got bored of SWG quick.
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I played the game for about some hours and it got boring allready
not my type of game i think.
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Thanks for the info Dienekes, Well I have been playing EVE some hours now (i've got the trial version) and it is actually very very good and immersive... It's a bit hard to learn but the depth of this game is tremendous.
So I think Eve is the king
Anyone looking into EVE must read this, then read it again
I have been playing for 14 months now and have never grown tired of it. The SA vs CA fights will always keep us busy.
(edit: one thing to be aware of: PVE is very limited, PVP is most of what I like to do though)
Just curious but how many skill points do you have MrPopov?
I can see myself playing this game well into the future. I think the hardest part is getting started but once you do and you see all the options in the game open up for you you start to love the game more and more.
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"Your still ignorant if you believe the first thing you see when the blindfold is removed."
"Be smart enough to know I'm smarter than you."
I quit playing for about 3 months during that 14 month time, so not as high as some: 11,507,000
I'm new to EVE and trying it out as well. I like the player-run economy, the trade and corporation-system. Getting skills offline is a great feature as well.
But mining and transport missions are boring as in any other game as well.
I'm also VERY disappointed that I can't fly my ship myself, that there is no flight model, no manual docking on stations, no purpose for my 3D-Avatar, no walking on stations, no landing on planets.
Played Jumpgate some time...I really like how to fly there and the great flight model of the ships that took into account the kind of freight and its weight onto the flight dynamics of my ship. Regarding flying spacehips...Jumpgate has more to offer!
In EVE its just point & and click and autopilot...imho stupid and boring!
And the look of the spaceships! I've never seen so ugly-looking spacehips as in EVE! The look of the spacehips alone would be a reason NOT to play EVE...
My Galante Maulus looks like a flying rollerblade that has been crossed with a diseased champignon...
Ok I exaggerate... ;-)
I actually got a full account and will finish my 30 days...maybe if I get deeper into corp and trade features I'll have more fun with it...
My suggestion would be to have ai-employes who do the mining, so that the player can concentrate on PvP, Management, Politics.
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a german speaking World War II Online allied squad
110th Infantry Regiment
2 DINA, III Corps, ArFr, AHC
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Life is too short to play bad games.
Yes, some people enjoy the laid-back'ness' of mining and trucking, and others don't. It's nothing you have to do though.
If there was manual flying you'd get so much lag you'd wish it is the way it is now, trust me on this one
it's a netcodes worst nightmare for so many players to be moving around in all dimensions at specific degrees, rather than just informing the computer to 'go there'. And believe me after the 398th time of docking at the same station if you have a 'homebase' of some kind, you'd be very tired of manual docking. It would become more of an annoyance than a fun feature.
Landing on planets is a debatable thing but if you want to get a better idea of why it wouldn't really work too hot, you can go to the forum thread 'The giant misconception of EVE-Online'. Moving around on stations would be kind of worthless, and again just irritating over time, I remember that's one thing I couldn't stand in EnB amongst countless other things.
You don't like the ship designs in EVE? They're ingenious! I guess we can't win them all, look buddy this game's probably just not for you.
Wish you better luck wherever you go.
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Anjelle [Freelancer Union]
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I love rain, the color gray, and small apartments.
I hate CS, the term n00b and this thing --> ^^
But that's just me.
I have just started playing EVE, about 6 weeks ago, and I must say, I absolutly love it!
I know that this is not a game to play if you want instant results, the skill progression does take ages, and traveling from system to system takes a life time, but hell, this is a space game!
MMORPG'S are meant to be a form of game that you will spend a lot of time working on. The character you play in the game is not just a one dimensional sprite that you so often see shot in many games, but a part of that universe, and it grows along with it's enviroment. I know it sounds freaky, but I like seeing that character develop and almost take on life of thier own.
My advice, get stck into this game and explore. Join a Player Corp as soon as you can, and enjoy every minuet of it. If you want a game that envolves no character development or interest in the world around you, go play Counter strike
"There is no Dark side of the moon, for in truth, it is all dark"
Pink Floyd.
"There is no Dark side of the moon, for in truth, it is all dark"
Pink Floyd.
Best part of EVE - PvP. PvP isn't limitted to combat, EVE is all-PvP, including trading, mining, combat, research. You always compete. Also I have never seen another community as passionate about their game as EVE's. Btw should be me somewhere in that Fountain vid