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MMORPGs you respect but absolutely hate playing...
Pale_Fire
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I know it's kind of a strange topic, but it seems that for a lot of people, if they don't like the game, then the game must suck. I've enjoyed most of the games out there to some extent or other, except for a couple of them. Nevertheless, even though I truly detest playing the games, I do have a lot of respect for the games and their respective communities. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see if other people have a game/games that they hate playing but still have a respect or admiration for.
Mine:
Lord of the Rings Online. I have friends who love this game so much they believe it to be the best MMORPG built to date. I don't enjoy the game at all and I'm not sure why. For me, I just don't think it differentiates itself from the rest of the games in the industry and I just can't get into the game. Just my opinion. However, I think the community is great, the game performs well and offers great gameplay and value for those who enjoy it. More power to you.
Eve Online. I truly respect the game and the community, but the only interesting part of this game for me is the politics. I have more fun with this game by not playing it. It is more entertaining for me to read the forums and track the rivalries and intrigue between alliances and corporations. I just can't like the gameplay. Not enough content to keep me engaged. It's just not my style of game. Nevertheless, I think its a good community and a very solid game that is different from most of the other MMORPGs in the market.
Those were my thoughts. Again, I think both are great games, I just don't like playing them.
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Same for me with Eve Online. Hated playing it in beta and hated playing it in retail. I think I can't get past the complicated looking user interface. But love reading about what goes on in the game.
Anarchy Online. Again, I like the idea of it and I'm impressed with the content but I absolutely hate paying it. I think it's the complicated crafting - never know what I'm doing with that - and the time based challenges which I hate in any rpg.
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I think EVE Online will come up alot because everyone loves what the devs are doing and loves how the devs listen to the community. Also it's totally different from everything else and thats what people want to see, more mmorpgs that are different from the WOW's and EQ's.
For me it's a mix of both though, i love playing the game but i also hate it in other ways. Like i love the freedom but space is soo boring and theres not much to do but fly station to station making money, thats about it really. So i'm often playing the game and thinking WOW i have soo much freedom and then i'm also thinking hmmmmmmmmm i'm bored.
Oh well Ambulation will be here next year and drinking to naked strippers in my own pub sounds like fun to me.
For me it would have to be EVE and EQ1.
Everquest 1 was just so boring to me compared to Asheron's Call 1 (which was the game I played at the time).
EVE seems like a cool idea but it is just so boring in the game play. I think I could get into it more if it was just a simulator and I didn't have to actually do any gameplay. IT would be fun to just sit back and check in on the intrigue of politics, etc. I just couldn't get into the actual gameplay at all.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
You know, I forgot about EQ1. I was an AC1 player, too. As much and I respected EQ, I hated the timesinks and didn't enjoy the gameplay at all. It was just too different.
Well MY amarr charecter will be running a Stripper and drug free bar. There is however going to be a free Bible bar
and slave fighting pen 
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Retired from: Neocron, Everquest, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, RF Online and Final Fantasy VII
Currently Playing : EvE Online.
Definitely Lord the rings online for me. Great game for players who are a bit new to MMORPG's , which will be alot of them due to the franchise attraction. Graphics are great, cant knock the polished feel to the gameplay, theyve done as much as they can to make it immersive. Just not the game for me or most experienced mmorpg gamers i would imagine.
Well MY amarr charecter will be running a Stripper and drug free bar. There is however going to be a free Bible bar
and slave fighting pen 
Caldari ftw!
Seriously though after Trinity the Caldari ships look amazing, i love the look of their new ships the most like the Rohk and the Titan, just a shame they wont completly remodel the older ships like the ugly Raven or the Bantum lol.
Hate but respect:
EQ2: hate because it feels like a care-bear game and like a massive grind. quest, quest, quest.. 'ever-questing'.
I respect it because of many of the features and the art-work/graphics. I think it does some things very well.
CoH/CoV: hate because of the cookie-cutter dungeon feel. Each dungeon pretty much had the same floorplan and same layout. Sorry, but that wasn't exciting to me.
I respect it for a number of reasons. The fact that the game isn't full of orc's, troll's, and elf's... that's a plus. I like the concept of a 'superhero' game. The character creation and graphics in the game are pretty nice, imho. I think the graphics could be 'sharper' and some of the animations could be better, but really... I think they are above satisfactory as they are.
EVE is cool but I agree that it's boring. ( I imagine it's different running with a huge alliance at war in 0.0 )
WoW was fun in the beginning but then it was just raiding which is boring as hell imo as well.
the ones I always respected and loved and never hated to play...
DAOC - I'll never stop loving this one.
Asherons Call - Forever the first original classic for me.
I would have to agree with the OP on what he said about EVE Online.
Lineage 2 - I really thought the clan system was great, I love the idea of having castles to attack and hold, the politics were always outstanding and the content was pretty sweet.
But the grind for both money (to buy gear) and levels was far beyond anything I could tolerate, (unlike the original Lineage) so I grew to hate it every moment I was playing...so I stopped.
World of Warcraft - When this game first came out, I was naive..... either they didn't make their end game plan public, or I just didn't look into it enough. My previous game experience (DAOC, Lineage 1/2, Shadowbane etc) had me conditioned to think the purpose of grinding up through levels was to reach a dynamic end game with player controlled objectives and content.
WOW was my first experience with PVE, raid centric games, and once I came to realize what raiding was all about, (my guild took down Ragnaros, 2nd on our server) and understood that I was going to do more of the same...I promptly blamed it all on my class (Pally) and leveled up a 2nd character..(Priest).
But when I got to the top...I was in the same place...so I re-rolled a Mage on the Horde side, surely that would be better..... but it wasn't. I quit for about 4 months, then came back, re-rolled a Druid.... raided through AQ 40.... and when TBC details were fully released, I realized.... WOW was never going to be the game for me. (though I did level up a Warlock in a final last gasp)
The hatred comes from the fact I really enjoyed all of my 60's (5) that I had in WOW, and I enjoyed leveling them up.... and its a shame that once I got to the top..there's really nothing for me to do but raid. (I find WOW's PVP to be totally pointless)
edit: Oh yes, and currently, I'm enjoying playing EVE
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EVE: Great game just not my cup of tea. I would likely play it I wasn't playing anything else.
WoW: I don't have time to raid and for me the immersion is broken too many times in the name of balance.
EQ2: I have mixed feelings on this game. I dissagree with so many decisions they made when putting it together but they have since gone to great lengths to fix those decisions but at this point I have other games to play. If it had launched in the state it's in today then I'd be playing it.
Tablua Rasa: I respect the direction they tried to take the Sci-Fi genre but I just don't like the psuedo-first person combat system. If I shoot a target in the head I want it to die, I don't want to have to shoot it 50 times in the head. IMO they should have embraced a true FPS system. But content wise I like what they've done.
I have to go with EVE, Ryzom, & LOTRO.
EVE: Great concept, plenty of skills etc.. but feels like I'm watching paint dry.
Ryzom: One of the better AI's in MMO's but the art work (while great ) was a bit too organic.
LOTRO: Extremly well made but just too linear. Never been a fan of being handheld or lead.
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Reborn/Zero Sum/Ancient Legacy/Jagged Legion/Feared/Nuke & Pave.
EVE - I've never tried it, but I have a lot of respect for the game because it's DIFFERENT, complex, and deep
. I doubt that I could get into the setting or game play (from what I've heard) but I hope that many future MMO's will take some inspiration from EVE.
EQ - Never tried this one either, because I can't stand grindy game play and I really dislike class/level systems. But, I do respect the complexity and depth of the game. Take EQ, add in a skill system and a good economy, and I'll be interested.
UO - I only list UO because I actually tried it and didn't like it. Of course, that was back when I had no idea what an MMO was. Being use to console games, the combat felt WAY to slow and clunky, so I never really gave it a chance. Not to mention, MMO's like UO have VERY steep learning curves. However, at this point, I;d love to see a UO style MMO hit the market, even with 2D graphics, it really wouldn't matter...
I agree with the general respect for EVE. I just couldn't get into it, and I really tried. Unfortunately, if I have to try, then it's not for me. I also have to criticize the real-time skill training...snore....
However, it is a great game in it's own right. The community is very unique, as is the game itself. The developers really care about the game, and have done great things with it.
I agree on both the games. Both of them feel a little bit one-dimensional to me. There is really not enough diverse content in either to keep me interested for long.
"Those who dislike things based only on the fact that they are popular are just as shallow and superficial as those who only like them for the same reason."
Primary because it is different and more competition. More competition will (should) increase the standards of MMORPGs and enhance creativity.
2. DAoC
I liked it a lot when I played it. For some reason, I was not able to really get into it. I definitely have a lot of respect for this title, though.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
Horizons: Had some really awesome ideas and implimentation. The crafting is still better than any game to date, and the sandbox(ness) of the game was better than any of the mainstream games. If someone would have taken the Horizons world and crafting with the Vanguard combat we would have the perfect game, no doubt in my mind, and it would absolutely crush all other games.
Shadowbane: This game is absolute PROOF that every (PvP lovin', sandbox wantin', ultimate change the world with what you do) player is LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH. I see all these posts about how they want the world to change to their whims. They want thorough PvP that the game was built around, and how they're looking for that perfect sandbox that they could make a difference in the world, and then don't even know or play Shadowbane. They just can't admit that they suck at these games, and the games CANNOT be made into single-player games with Godmode and try to blame it on design. Well, the design was there, and guess what, it flopped.
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interesting topic, i was just thinking the other day how much i really hated guild wars, but i have never seen a game release so smooth and run so well even on my lousy computer at the time. it was very creative and amazingly free. its probably one of the best games ever made in terms of quality, but I just can't stand playing it. ive tried going back several times only to be disgusted. weird how a game that good can do that to me.
The most fun i had with wow was right at the beginning where raids on other towns were common place. especially with the great guild i had, great in terms of people not how many dungeons we cleared although we cleared them all just wasnt our focus.
Then unthoughtunatly they all started leaving to the point the guild collapsed, so i was left looking for a decent guild which i found 3 times but it was never as fun as Frostwolf was ( first guild i was in ) and they all ended in the same way people left mostly fed up with end game, more importantly the lack of pvp end game when we spent all of our leveling pvping.
It was more importantly the over all community it is seriously hard to maintain a pvp guild surprisingly on the pvp server. I tried rerolling etc to tried find the non carebears no help so gave up looked for a better game. WoW wasnt my fist mmo btw Planetside was so i wasnt expecting the end game, to bad planetside is the only mmofps there is worth playing and its pretty bland in terms of enviroments to fight in but its hard not to repspect it for being the first mmo that i actually wanted to play.
Oh i played wow for 3 years almost on and off, finally all my m8s left so i saw no reason to stay since i was pretty bored with it i just enjoyed playing the game with my guild and other guilds i got to know. Also i finnally gave up hope of the game being as fun as it used to be for me mostly due to how they handled the pvp areas good idea bad implementation.
I dont hate wow hell i dont hate any game. Hate is to strong a word, disliked the direction the community and the game went in was more the wording i would choose.
As for planetside it was the first mmo i played i think i just over played it finally got fed up of all the areas looking the same so i got bored farely quickly and i quit, I respect the game, it kept me playing for almost 2 years, 1 where i played 3 hours a week, and the second was on and off for a year. Never played any game that much so hard to think it was crap or wasted time since i enjoyed it.
Anyway overall the way i see it any game that can keep someone playing for over 6 months is a good game. Considering how games nowadays seem to last 5 to 10 hours tops which really makes me fill ripped off after spending 30-40 pounds on it cnc 3 comes to mind as the most recent i feel i wasted money on ;/.
DAoC and CoH. Absolutely hated the PvE of DAoC but it had a solid style and what looked an appealling pvp game. CoH, I'm sorry but I can't get past the whole superhero bit but it gets applauded for some of its unconventional mmorpg design systems.
Eve Online is the only one. It's everything an MMO should offers it's players but the combat and general pace of play is so mind numbingly slow. Small group combat requires very little skill or tactics.
UO - Awesome game, outdated graphics
Planetside - Awesome game, no population
- Phos
WoW for sure, 2 years in and I watched my "friends" go from just loving to play to becoming raiding gear hounds..no respect unless you had the mid to top end raiding gear and even griefed if you didn't have some piece of gear you should have. Very stressful game that wasn't fun anymore, just work. Spend hours a day grinding mats for pots or buff food or flasks or money so you can raid that night. That's not to mention the fact that Blizzard put respawn on a timer so you barely had time to take a crap before moving on to next boss. It is Blizz that took the fun out of the game, not the players..once dps meters were designed for the game as addons it ruined the play of the game...now everyone watches top dps/healing and rest are mediocre even though they play their part well....watch for the games that have "too many" addons..they will ruin the fun of the game..
Final Fantasy 11 and Horizons.
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