I played SWG for the first 6 months of it, and besides the fact that I will never, ever, ever go back to that game (I draw the line at paying for boredom), I posted as many suggestions as I could about how to make the game better, but you had to be REAL careful on their forums because anything that even hinted at criticism of the game was immediately deleted from the forums. If something was really pissing people off and they wanted to go vent about it somewhere, they would just delete it they didn't want to hear it.
If they spent half as much time in fixing the game as they do deleting posts, they'd probably have the best game out by now.
Of course, if you have the worst game on the market with LucasArts' backing you, you better do something to cover up the fact that you crapped on the Star Wars name.
AO was a nightmare when I first played that on release, which was insanely bad, but at least the game was good enough to make me come back after 1 year and give it another go. AO got about 18 months out of me, 6 of which were nearly unplayable, but SWG has money and more importantly time that I feel I can never be repaid for.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
i actually love swg but this censorship is ridiculus! i suggest this issue be brought up to influencial game sites like IGN, gamespot, G4, and of course mmorpg.com.
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SOE lets you read the SWG forums again. You can't post unless you have an active account, but you can view the posts without one.
As far as deleting posts go, its their board they can do it. I don't know specifically what posts soe is deleting , but usually posts that get deleted are from Drama Queens and Chicken Little types. The "OMG OMG OMGZ!!!111!!!1 SOE Sucks they nerfed combat!!!111!!!" type of posts are just stupid and probably should be zapped.
--------------------------------------------- I need more cow bell! Slothman's Home Tree
--------------------------------------------- I need more Cow Bell! Slothman's Home Tree
Originally posted by Slothman SOE lets you read the SWG forums again. You can't post unless you have an active account, but you can view the posts without one. As far as deleting posts go, its their board they can do it. I don't know specifically what posts soe is deleting , but usually posts that get deleted are from Drama Queens and Chicken Little types. The "OMG OMG OMGZ!!!111!!!1 SOE Sucks they nerfed combat!!!111!!!" type of posts are just stupid and probably should be zapped.
--------------------------------------------- I need more cow bell! Slothman's Home Tree
zapped perhaps but not deleted.
I agree with blocking racial, sexual slur and use of banned language at their own discretion but not an opinion however it might be damaging effect on game's impression.
- To even write on the official SoE sites about EQ you need to have an active account, which mean, you like the game, because if you dont like the game, you dont have an active account.
- SoE love to ''listen'' to their player bases like they say, but they use piped dices. FoH, Afterlife & friends are not even representative of the powergamers, even less of the whole game, yet, they keep focusing on this aspect because THEY want to focus on that aspect, kinda like a challenge to keep the most insane players busy making near insane stuff that the average powergamers will scorn on, more so for the casuals.
- SoE understand $. They adapt for $. They dont care that you are happy or not, as long as they get $. So if you dont like it, just stop till they make it fun on a long term basic, otherwise, they will keep that way, because they make more $.
- Is SoE ''controlling'' post in SWG? Most certainly, I am surprised that they can even be discordant voices!
- SoE is not the mother of all evil althought, they have their agenda, it is all. They want to build a game that keep folks paying and busy with as less expenses as possible, thereby you understand why it is a must raid thing. (I will not pay for a must raid game...I want to be working on been uber at what I am doing and I want to group or solo...if I need to PvP or to Raid in order to group or solo, I am out, out, out, out, out!)
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
SWG, what a joke, they actually made the game worse as time progressed. How incompetent, thank goodness they arent political leaders.
They start on a phased change to the combat system and stop midway through. I had high hopes for that game but no more. Like many ppl, I have decided to shy away from SOE games based on the two I have played.
I am currently playing CoH and it seems nice. I tried Lineage 2 but that was a horrible grind in a land of clones. CoH seems fine for the time being. I am thinking of Anarchy Onlince though. I have heard lots of good things about that game.
What I would like to see is something like Warhammer 40k or Necromunda (also a Games-WOrkshop game) as a mmorpg. I am tired of the fantasy genre and wish something nice would appear in the Sci-Fi world. Unfortunately, SWG was not it.
Since EQ2 is made by SOE, Im gonna guess it will be exactly like SWG is. Very nice graphics but a hollow bug filled game with absolute terrible customer support.
I dont need EQ2, there are plenty of excellent games coming out. Heck the only reason most of my friends played SWG as long as they did was because of the lack of games. Not a problem anymore once Middle Earth, WoW, Warhammer, Vanguard, Dark and Light, Face of Mankind, etc Plus some really great single player comes are on the way... Doom 3, Halflife 2, KOTOR 2, etc. I dont need EQ2, but EQ2 may need me.
Originally posted by admriker444 Since EQ2 is made by SOE, Im gonna guess it will be exactly like SWG is. Very nice graphics but a hollow bug filled game with absolute terrible customer support. I dont need EQ2, there are plenty of excellent games coming out. Heck the only reason most of my friends played SWG as long as they did was because of the lack of games. Not a problem anymore once Middle Earth, WoW, Warhammer, Vanguard, Dark and Light, Face of Mankind, etc Plus some really great single player comes are on the way... Doom 3, Halflife 2, KOTOR 2, etc. I dont need EQ2, but EQ2 may need me.
Unless Lucas Arts is working on EQ2, I doubt EQ2 will be anything like SWG.
Originally posted by n2sooners Unless Lucas Arts is working on EQ2, I doubt EQ2 will be anything like SWG.
That is a valid point, but I would also add that you can bet a large sum of cash that EQ2 will have major drawbacks and problems that will irritate a great deal of people who are eagerly awaiting it. The flame-fest for this game (as well as WoW) will be stellar.
Originally posted by admriker444 Since EQ2 is made by SOE, Im gonna guess it will be exactly like SWG is. Very nice graphics but a hollow bug filled game with absolute terrible customer support. I dont need EQ2, there are plenty of excellent games coming out. Heck the only reason most of my friends played SWG as long as they did was because of the lack of games. Not a problem anymore once Middle Earth, WoW, Warhammer, Vanguard, Dark and Light, Face of Mankind, etc Plus some really great single player comes are on the way... Doom 3, Halflife 2, KOTOR 2, etc. I dont need EQ2, but EQ2 may need me.
Man i hate when people do this.
"Guild Wars and Tabula Rasa will suck because its published by NCSoft, just like CoH and L2!!"
Different developers working on each one, and that goes for SOE games too.
Just wanted to post my thoughts, i just canceled my swg account today, after playing for about 1 year. The game has gotten overwhelmingly buggy and certain proffessions are just plain broken, and the delay of that combat balence is so rediculous, i mean geez the game really needs it, as you can see form that post from TH lol.
Anyway i think i am done with soe as well, the experience got worse and worse, and i never got any kind of support from them when i needed it, and the censoring thing is just wrong. In my opinion, they drove that game into the ground, i think it was better and less buggy when i started lol. Im looking forward to WoW and The Matrix online, right now im messing around with Neocron and AC2 and enjoying them, don't know how long these will last though. I played CoH for a while, but like most ppl said, it gets boring really fast, too bad. I really have a resentment agains SoE now lol sux cause i wanted to play EQ2, now i dont't.
Truth is we dont know who is working on what at SOE. I do know this though, SOE told us Jump to Lightspeed had its own dev team working on it. That turned out to be a lie. In fact, half of SWG devs were working on it. Now they are taking all 100% of SWG devs to work on JTL and delay combat revamp.
Also Kevin Q3PO one of the biggest public relations liers (guy should be a politician) has been promoted. Lol, better hope that idiot didnt get moved to EQ2.
I really don't see how you can blame SWG on Lucas Arts, who has produced a number of very good games over the years and during the same period as SWG (KOTOR). Lucas Arts as producer is basically signing all the checks, makes sure nothing goes to crazy off the SW timeline (heh, not that they actually do with 100s of jedi around), and sign more checks.
Its very simple...the SWG dev team (which is all SOEs) sucks. And it sucks very very badly because it has made the game worse and worse with a slower and slower work pace.
This being said, the EQ2 team is different, it is under a pretty talented lead (Trost) and should turn out playable if they don't rush. Which knowing SOE, they may, but lets hope not.
Originally posted by Justinian I really don't see how you can blame SWG on Lucas Arts, who has produced a number of very good games over the years and during the same period as SWG (KOTOR). Lucas Arts as producer is basically signing all the checks, makes sure nothing goes to crazy off the SW timeline (heh, not that they actually do with 100s of jedi around), and sign more checks. Its very simple...the SWG dev team (which is all SOEs) sucks. And it sucks very very badly because it has made the game worse and worse with a slower and slower work pace. This being said, the EQ2 team is different, it is under a pretty talented lead (Trost) and should turn out playable if they don't rush. Which knowing SOE, they may, but lets hope not.
Lucas Arts had much to do with SWG being pushed out the door early. Being pushed out the door early had much to do with the problems SWG has had and still has. There were incomplete classes, unbalanced classes, and a combat system that they have been planning to revamp since soon after release. They could have fixed those problems much easier while upsetting much less of their player base if the game release had been put off another six months. SOE has shown they can put things off when it is in the interest of the game (sometimes). They have put off their latest EQ expansion, and they have put off projected EQ2 dates many times (first date was fourth quarter 2003). Yet SWG hasn't learned and they are putting off fixing the game for another expansion (how is expanding a broken game good?).
Maybe it is just the SWG team, maybe it is the Lucas Arts influence, but you can't pin all the problems in SWG on SOE in general.
So in the perfect world, everybody has all this freedom EXCEPT the game company that you are posting these rants on? They are at your mercy or they are communist or fascists? Riiiiiiiight...
And by the way, genius, fascism has little in common with communism besides being an authouritarian political structure. And democracy is not inherently good...evil, nasty commie bastiches can hold a vote, too. And fascism, as in ultimate authourity from the top down using force to enforce it's decisions, is how every parent raises it's child. Any political system has it's good and bad points, they only become problematic when there are bad people in charge. Or stupid people.
Im not even gonna touch that rant from left field except to say....
Im paying $15 a month. Therefore I do have some rights in regards to posting my feelings on a game. Its one thing to delete a profanity-laced message, but entirely wrong to delete a polite but stern message. Im paying their salaries and therefore have every right to expect a working game. I also should be able to complain when said product fails to deliver.
You can complain all they want, free country. They can also delete anything stored on their private property they want, free country. You are paying to PLAY the game, the forums are provided by SOE, at their discretion, free of charge. You people want to stand on your rights and you cry censorship, yet fail to recognize the other party's rights.
As far as this rant coming out of left field, it is in reply to the overall tone of the thread in general plus an early post by Hebrew on the thread where he wrote a series of identities where democratic = good and communism = fascism.
Now, if a game want to be as widely spread and supported and loved by the player base, they need as much PR and open minded point of view...however, they need to keep it from been overly bashed, and this is hard to balanced, because what someone will judge as pure bashing, another will judge as a comment.
It is from discordants ideas and way of thinking that someone manage to get to shine the most in the public eye, not necessarily by supporting them, but by making it clear and easy for everyone to understand where everyone stand. SoE win a lot of faction with me when pro-must PvP fans express themselves in way I will judge inappropriate...
Trust me, SoE rather have you all complaining on THEIR boards where they can delete you(or postponed you to a later date) in order to arrange everything to shine then here, where they have no control for now... *see huge load of money going toward MMORPG.com staff and my posts been deleted* *grin* (yeah, I am a little self centered and believe the world resolve around me, sowwy)
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by thePuck You can complain all they want, free country. They can also delete anything stored on their private property they want, free country. You are paying to PLAY the game, the forums are provided by SOE, at their discretion, free of charge. You people want to stand on your rights and you cry censorship, yet fail to recognize the other party's rights. As far as this rant coming out of left field, it is in reply to the overall tone of the thread in general plus an early post by Hebrew on the thread where he wrote a series of identities where democratic = good and communism = fascism.
Do you want me to repeat is that what you wanna hear?
Since they opened the boards to the public again, SOE has had there forums monsters eating alot of posts that are aimed at either the people in charge of the game or either company SOE and lucas arts.
Actually the forums are the best part of SWG. Some people can really come up with some funny shit.
I quit playing SWG about a month ago, after playing way too long.
It changed my attitude towards online games. I think I'm going to play the new games until I hit the level cap, explore all the areas, or just get completely bored, then I will move on to a new game.
I wasted so much time after I did all there was to offer in SWG, mostly because I felt bad to leave my online friends in SWG. But I realized after playing COH for about 2 days that you can replace online friends fairly quickly, and cancel a game subscription even quicker.
IGN has made and interview with swg devs about the combat revamp. its on their site www.ign.com
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SOE has shown they can put things off when it is in the interest of the game (sometimes). They have put off their latest EQ expansion, and they have put off projected EQ2 dates many times (first date was fourth quarter 2003). Yet SWG hasn't learned and they are putting off fixing the game for another expansion (how is expanding a broken game good?).
Quite frankly, it was more important to get SWG out to the masses despite the fact beta testers practically begged them not to. They wanted the $$$ in their pockets then figured they'd fix stuff. But it's all rumps and elbows at SOE.
Bluntly, SWG is a steaming pile, EQ with a Star Wars skin. It takes no effort to learn the game, there's no need to determine a strategy for advancing your character in any way (perhaps in the Jedi path but that's so obscure it's hard to say). It does not engage anything but a 'see the bug, kill the bug' mentality.
Add to that individual issues I experienced like crashing every half hour with no response to customer service emails and being banned from the forum for 3 days for making a suggestion about how they could simplify their account activation and game access process (they wanted me to turn off all my firewalls to play the game. Aroo? No other MMO I've played have ever, ever needed this done to make them playable). Thankfully, RL issues necessitated canceling but I would have anyway. SOE does not deserve any sort of customer loyalty or a single cent out of our pokcets. Greed and disregard for the customer should not be rewarded.
Well, if you decide to stop playing a game because they delete posts that expose their shortcomings on the official boards, you may find yourself gameless after a while. Yesterday I was talking to a friend who plays L2 and he was complaining of exactly the same problem in their official boards. Back when I played EQ in '99, their boards were more policed than North Korea. I wouldn't really waste my time raging at the Man because they lied to you about what the devs are doing or because they delete your posts, talk with your wallet and cancel the account if they piss you off.
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I played SWG for the first 6 months of it, and besides the fact that I will never, ever, ever go back to that game (I draw the line at paying for boredom), I posted as many suggestions as I could about how to make the game better, but you had to be REAL careful on their forums because anything that even hinted at criticism of the game was immediately deleted from the forums. If something was really pissing people off and they wanted to go vent about it somewhere, they would just delete it they didn't want to hear it.
If they spent half as much time in fixing the game as they do deleting posts, they'd probably have the best game out by now.
Of course, if you have the worst game on the market with LucasArts' backing you, you better do something to cover up the fact that you crapped on the Star Wars name.
AO was a nightmare when I first played that on release, which was insanely bad, but at least the game was good enough to make me come back after 1 year and give it another go. AO got about 18 months out of me, 6 of which were nearly unplayable, but SWG has money and more importantly time that I feel I can never be repaid for.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
i actually love swg but this censorship is ridiculus! i suggest this issue be brought up to influencial game sites like IGN, gamespot, G4, and of course mmorpg.com.
Playing: Star Wars Galaxies, Tibia
Beta/retired: lineage 2, darkages Saga of Ryzom, conquer, runescape, raganarok, knight online
hope to play: face of mankind, everquest 2
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SOE lets you read the SWG forums again. You can't post unless you have an active account, but you can view the posts without one.
As far as deleting posts go, its their board they can do it. I don't know specifically what posts soe is deleting , but usually posts that get deleted are from Drama Queens and Chicken Little types. The "OMG OMG OMGZ!!!111!!!1 SOE Sucks they nerfed combat!!!111!!!" type of posts are just stupid and probably should be zapped.
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I need more cow bell!
Slothman's Home Tree
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I need more Cow Bell!
Slothman's Home Tree
zapped perhaps but not deleted.
I agree with blocking racial, sexual slur and use of banned language at their own discretion but not an opinion however it might be damaging effect on game's impression.
Well...
- To even write on the official SoE sites about EQ you need to have an active account, which mean, you like the game, because if you dont like the game, you dont have an active account.
- SoE love to ''listen'' to their player bases like they say, but they use piped dices. FoH, Afterlife & friends are not even representative of the powergamers, even less of the whole game, yet, they keep focusing on this aspect because THEY want to focus on that aspect, kinda like a challenge to keep the most insane players busy making near insane stuff that the average powergamers will scorn on, more so for the casuals.
- SoE understand $. They adapt for $. They dont care that you are happy or not, as long as they get $. So if you dont like it, just stop till they make it fun on a long term basic, otherwise, they will keep that way, because they make more $.
- Is SoE ''controlling'' post in SWG? Most certainly, I am surprised that they can even be discordant voices!
- SoE is not the mother of all evil althought, they have their agenda, it is all. They want to build a game that keep folks paying and busy with as less expenses as possible, thereby you understand why it is a must raid thing. (I will not pay for a must raid game...I want to be working on been uber at what I am doing and I want to group or solo...if I need to PvP or to Raid in order to group or solo, I am out, out, out, out, out!)
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
SWG, what a joke, they actually made the game worse as time progressed. How incompetent, thank goodness they arent political leaders.
They start on a phased change to the combat system and stop midway through. I had high hopes for that game but no more. Like many ppl, I have decided to shy away from SOE games based on the two I have played.
I am currently playing CoH and it seems nice. I tried Lineage 2 but that was a horrible grind in a land of clones. CoH seems fine for the time being. I am thinking of Anarchy Onlince though. I have heard lots of good things about that game.
What I would like to see is something like Warhammer 40k or Necromunda (also a Games-WOrkshop game) as a mmorpg. I am tired of the fantasy genre and wish something nice would appear in the Sci-Fi world. Unfortunately, SWG was not it.
we'll see...
oh we'll see
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Since EQ2 is made by SOE, Im gonna guess it will be exactly like SWG is. Very nice graphics but a hollow bug filled game with absolute terrible customer support.
I dont need EQ2, there are plenty of excellent games coming out. Heck the only reason most of my friends played SWG as long as they did was because of the lack of games. Not a problem anymore once Middle Earth, WoW, Warhammer, Vanguard, Dark and Light, Face of Mankind, etc Plus some really great single player comes are on the way... Doom 3, Halflife 2, KOTOR 2, etc. I dont need EQ2, but EQ2 may need me.
Unless Lucas Arts is working on EQ2, I doubt EQ2 will be anything like SWG.
That is a valid point, but I would also add that you can bet a large sum of cash that EQ2 will have major drawbacks and problems that will irritate a great deal of people who are eagerly awaiting it. The flame-fest for this game (as well as WoW) will be stellar.
Man i hate when people do this.
"Guild Wars and Tabula Rasa will suck because its published by NCSoft, just like CoH and L2!!"
Different developers working on each one, and that goes for SOE games too.
Just wanted to post my thoughts, i just canceled my swg account today, after playing for about 1 year. The game has gotten overwhelmingly buggy and certain proffessions are just plain broken, and the delay of that combat balence is so rediculous, i mean geez the game really needs it, as you can see form that post from TH lol.
Anyway i think i am done with soe as well, the experience got worse and worse, and i never got any kind of support from them when i needed it, and the censoring thing is just wrong. In my opinion, they drove that game into the ground, i think it was better and less buggy when i started lol. Im looking forward to WoW and The Matrix online, right now im messing around with Neocron and AC2 and enjoying them, don't know how long these will last though. I played CoH for a while, but like most ppl said, it gets boring really fast, too bad. I really have a resentment agains SoE now lol sux cause i wanted to play EQ2, now i dont't.
just my thoughts,
-VlaDrak
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Truth is we dont know who is working on what at SOE. I do know this though, SOE told us Jump to Lightspeed had its own dev team working on it. That turned out to be a lie. In fact, half of SWG devs were working on it. Now they are taking all 100% of SWG devs to work on JTL and delay combat revamp.
Also Kevin Q3PO one of the biggest public relations liers (guy should be a politician) has been promoted. Lol, better hope that idiot didnt get moved to EQ2.
I really don't see how you can blame SWG on Lucas Arts, who has produced a number of very good games over the years and during the same period as SWG (KOTOR). Lucas Arts as producer is basically signing all the checks, makes sure nothing goes to crazy off the SW timeline (heh, not that they actually do with 100s of jedi around), and sign more checks.
Its very simple...the SWG dev team (which is all SOEs) sucks. And it sucks very very badly because it has made the game worse and worse with a slower and slower work pace.
This being said, the EQ2 team is different, it is under a pretty talented lead (Trost) and should turn out playable if they don't rush. Which knowing SOE, they may, but lets hope not.
Lucas Arts had much to do with SWG being pushed out the door early. Being pushed out the door early had much to do with the problems SWG has had and still has. There were incomplete classes, unbalanced classes, and a combat system that they have been planning to revamp since soon after release. They could have fixed those problems much easier while upsetting much less of their player base if the game release had been put off another six months. SOE has shown they can put things off when it is in the interest of the game (sometimes). They have put off their latest EQ expansion, and they have put off projected EQ2 dates many times (first date was fourth quarter 2003). Yet SWG hasn't learned and they are putting off fixing the game for another expansion (how is expanding a broken game good?).
Maybe it is just the SWG team, maybe it is the Lucas Arts influence, but you can't pin all the problems in SWG on SOE in general.
So in the perfect world, everybody has all this freedom EXCEPT the game company that you are posting these rants on? They are at your mercy or they are communist or fascists? Riiiiiiiight...
And by the way, genius, fascism has little in common with communism besides being an authouritarian political structure. And democracy is not inherently good...evil, nasty commie bastiches can hold a vote, too. And fascism, as in ultimate authourity from the top down using force to enforce it's decisions, is how every parent raises it's child. Any political system has it's good and bad points, they only become problematic when there are bad people in charge. Or stupid people.
Twits.
Im not even gonna touch that rant from left field except to say....
Im paying $15 a month. Therefore I do have some rights in regards to posting my feelings on a game. Its one thing to delete a profanity-laced message, but entirely wrong to delete a polite but stern message. Im paying their salaries and therefore have every right to expect a working game. I also should be able to complain when said product fails to deliver.
You can complain all they want, free country. They can also delete anything stored on their private property they want, free country. You are paying to PLAY the game, the forums are provided by SOE, at their discretion, free of charge. You people want to stand on your rights and you cry censorship, yet fail to recognize the other party's rights.
As far as this rant coming out of left field, it is in reply to the overall tone of the thread in general plus an early post by Hebrew on the thread where he wrote a series of identities where democratic = good and communism = fascism.
*giggles*
The madness!
Now, if a game want to be as widely spread and supported and loved by the player base, they need as much PR and open minded point of view...however, they need to keep it from been overly bashed, and this is hard to balanced, because what someone will judge as pure bashing, another will judge as a comment.
It is from discordants ideas and way of thinking that someone manage to get to shine the most in the public eye, not necessarily by supporting them, but by making it clear and easy for everyone to understand where everyone stand. SoE win a lot of faction with me when pro-must PvP fans express themselves in way I will judge inappropriate...
Trust me, SoE rather have you all complaining on THEIR boards where they can delete you(or postponed you to a later date) in order to arrange everything to shine then here, where they have no control for now... *see huge load of money going toward MMORPG.com staff and my posts been deleted* *grin* (yeah, I am a little self centered and believe the world resolve around me, sowwy)
- "Coercing? No no, I assure you, they are willing to bring my bags and pay public transportation just to help me, it is true!''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Do you want me to repeat is that what you wanna hear?
Since they opened the boards to the public again, SOE has had there forums monsters eating alot of posts that are aimed at either the people in charge of the game or either company SOE and lucas arts.
Actually the forums are the best part of SWG. Some people can really come up with some funny shit.
I quit playing SWG about a month ago, after playing way too long.
It changed my attitude towards online games. I think I'm going to play the new games until I hit the level cap, explore all the areas, or just get completely bored, then I will move on to a new game.
I wasted so much time after I did all there was to offer in SWG, mostly because I felt bad to leave my online friends in SWG. But I realized after playing COH for about 2 days that you can replace online friends fairly quickly, and cancel a game subscription even quicker.
Thanks for reading,
Tigerman COH Champion Server
IGN has made and interview with swg devs about the combat revamp. its on their site www.ign.com
Playing: Star Wars Galaxies, Tibia
Beta/retired: lineage 2, darkages Saga of Ryzom, conquer, runescape, raganarok, knight online
hope to play: face of mankind, everquest 2
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Quite frankly, it was more important to get SWG out to the masses despite the fact beta testers practically begged them not to. They wanted the $$$ in their pockets then figured they'd fix stuff. But it's all rumps and elbows at SOE.
Bluntly, SWG is a steaming pile, EQ with a Star Wars skin. It takes no effort to learn the game, there's no need to determine a strategy for advancing your character in any way (perhaps in the Jedi path but that's so obscure it's hard to say). It does not engage anything but a 'see the bug, kill the bug' mentality.
Add to that individual issues I experienced like crashing every half hour with no response to customer service emails and being banned from the forum for 3 days for making a suggestion about how they could simplify their account activation and game access process (they wanted me to turn off all my firewalls to play the game. Aroo? No other MMO I've played have ever, ever needed this done to make them playable). Thankfully, RL issues necessitated canceling but I would have anyway. SOE does not deserve any sort of customer loyalty or a single cent out of our pokcets. Greed and disregard for the customer should not be rewarded.
some folks did vote with there wallet this weekend and on the way out yelled and roared
as a result some articles at www.ign.com and www.gamespot
were out , it all came down if folks beleived haden thunderhart or not
i voted with my wallet.........