It hasn't even entered beta yet, so no, it won't be out in 2008 2009 at the earliest
please read about the game before you start spreading false rumors.. thanks.
What is false about that? you aren't making any sense
Tralla is most likely referring to Asp seeing the game in person as "proof" the game is in beta. Just another case of someone not knowing the difference between alpha and beta.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Games have come and gone during the time this game has been in development. That should tell you something. And I thought it has been in dev for more like 7 years?
nethervoid - Est. '97 [UO|EQ|SB|SWG|PS|HZ|EVE|NWN|WoW|VG|DF|AQW|DN|SWTOR|Dofus|SotA|BDO|AO|NW|LA] - Currently Playing EQ1 20k+ subs YouTube Gaming channel
This my friends, is a mans game! (Pretty ladies are invited too ) I expect the game to beta/release around late 2008. Beta testing should be fairly short as the devs are spending this extra time to make the game as complete as possible prior to doing a public beta.
This game will eventually be released. Somewhere between 5 and 12 weeks after launch, the company will fold and shut the servers down. Most people won't notice, and of the people who do notice, only a few will care. Most of this game's fanboys will have moved on to the next end-all be-all game coming down the pipe by that time. The five or six guys still playing will be mad that the game they love got canceled, and they will spend the next 5 years on this forum complaining about how every game that comes out can't live up to their first MMO love. Eventually it will be replaced by some other mediocre flash in the pan, and the whole cycle will repeat itself.
This game will eventually be released. Somewhere between 5 and 12 weeks after launch, the company will fold and shut the servers down. Most people won't notice, and of the people who do notice, only a few will care. Most of this game's fanboys will have moved on to the next end-all be-all game coming down the pipe by that time. The five or six guys still playing will be mad that the game they love got canceled, and they will spend the next 5 years on this forum complaining about how every game that comes out can't live up to their first MMO love. Eventually it will be replaced by some other mediocre flash in the pan, and the whole cycle will repeat itself. That's my guess anyway.
DF already has a large fan base of forum members close to 50k. Most of the members on the website have very large guilds, not all guild members join the forums and post it up. Most times just the guild leaders post on the forums. Some of my guild posts there but not my entire guild. There is mass of people that will play DF, unlike you... somone that cant stand PvP without wearing girl panties while you play, such as item based, gear based, level based, instance based, unbalanced classes and faction vs faction. You are prob a WoWHammer fanboy, an mmo made for moms and people who cant handle real PvP. DF online is not about living up to the wuss so called PvP mmos like WoW, WoWHammer and Age of Conan. DF is after the hardcore PvP peoples, not moms. /cry more
This game will eventually be released. Somewhere between 5 and 12 weeks after launch, the company will fold and shut the servers down. Most people won't notice, and of the people who do notice, only a few will care. Most of this game's fanboys will have moved on to the next end-all be-all game coming down the pipe by that time. The five or six guys still playing will be mad that the game they love got canceled, and they will spend the next 5 years on this forum complaining about how every game that comes out can't live up to their first MMO love. Eventually it will be replaced by some other mediocre flash in the pan, and the whole cycle will repeat itself. That's my guess anyway.
There is mass of people that will play DF, unlike you... somone that cant stand PvP without wearing girl panties while you play, such as item based, gear based, level based, instance based, unbalanced classes and faction vs faction. You are prob a WoWHammer fanboy, an mmo made for moms and people who cant handle real PvP. DF online is not about living up to the wuss so called PvP mmos like WoW, WoWHammer and Age of Conan. DF is after the hardcore PvP peoples, not moms. /cry more
See, I just thought the game would fail because the market is so unfriendly to small publisher / developer games. It's difficult to compete in the MMO market with SOE, EA and the new 800lb gorilla, Activision Blizzard. That moronic rant you responded with is the reason I'll be happy when this game fails. If it's aimed at venom spewing leet hardcore PvP asshats, I'll be happy to watch it go down in flames... and this game will fail, despite your ever so eloquent arguments in it's favor.
Or people will pick up the game and go "Holy shit this is awesome!" and word will spread. I imagine Darkfall to be the next incarnation of U.O. Someone has to take the next step and Adventurine is taking a shot at it unlike the rest of those anal companies who are in the business purely for the money. It's true the game can fail but I don't see the doors closing shortly after release (I think the company has alternate sources of revenue). Even if it did fail and close its doors Adventurine deserves way more of my respect then any other company for raising the bar rather than sticking it places where the sun don't shine and then continuously beating us with it.
Edit: I forgot to add that just because the game has a small team doesn't mean it can't amount to large things? Look at Google, Facebook, Everquest 1, they all started off with big potential to fail and are now on top of the world. For all we know Darkfall could be the next World of Warcraft (Ok maybe not unless they release a limited PvP server but still).
Anywho if you knew anything about Darkfall you'd realize it has pretty good chances, the game isn't just focused on PvP combat. There are so many things that give the game a sense of realism that no MMORPG (except maybe EvE but that's only in the economy dept) has come close to doing.
I guess it could be the next EVE. But I think, from what I have seen, that it is more likely the next Fury... or the next Ryzom, Seed or Dark & Light. I think that they start out with the handicap of being a pretty small production and make it worse by limiting their audience with 'hardcore' PvP focus. We could speculate all day, or just revisit the subject a few months after the game comes out.
true true 1 good thing they do have a few carebear things like unversial banks alignmeant system with guards that will beat your BEEEP in the newb towns for pking also the portals that are hard to get to those we really just have to see
unversal banking has a weight limit tho so still verible for some loot stealing XD
I guess it could be the next EVE. But I think, from what I have seen, that it is more likely the next Fury... or the next Ryzom, Seed or Dark & Light. I think that they start out with the handicap of being a pretty small production and make it worse by limiting their audience with 'hardcore' PvP focus. We could speculate all day, or just revisit the subject a few months after the game comes out.
I don't know, Darkfall has a lot of features that'll keep me in even if combat doesn't work out. But including combat some highlights are -
1. Naval battles in which cannons are fired in First person shooter mode
2. By tacking against the wind you can sail a boat faster then going straight into the wind.
3. Jumping off a a higher terrain and swinging your weapon results in more damage being done when you contact your opponent
What am I making up? The fact that DF has never demo'd at any gaming convention, or anywhere in public at all, ever, and has not been covered by mainstream gaming press for years? Or am I making up the fact that one of DF's graphic designers wrote on her blog that they faked most of their screenshots and videos? Or am I making up the fact that Darkfall has been in the same supposed stage of development for at least four years with no noticeable progress at all?
Am I making up the fact that the best Darkfall videos that got people excited about the game were fake ones created by kids on youtube with fake footage?
No, I'm not making anything up. The ones who are making things up are the fixated fantasizers who run around saying, "Oooh Darkfall is x, Darkfall is y, Darkfall is z." Wrong, you don't have the faintest fuck of a clue what Darkfall is, nobody does, and every public indication is that the game doesn't exist at all, which has been the conclusion of the vast majority of gamers who originally started following it back in 2001.
Yeah Hal, take it easy. Or do you expect me to just give up all my MMO dreams and stop playing computer games because you think DF is a scam? Right now there is NOTHING in any MMO that makes me interested. I played SWG until the NGE, that was the last time i was really into a MMO. So i really need something to dream about........so is this game ever gonna come out.......SOON! (in my mind).
Yes, even waiting for Darkfall is more fun then playing most of what is offerd today; sadly.
And if Darkfall is crap there is unfortunately nothing that can be even conisdered interesting in the making.
And i also have more fun wating for DF then playing any MMO.
Sadly (or worse) i have made many new friends from all over the world......people that are waiting to.
And worse part.......i joined a little DF clan. We are 46 members???? WTF??? 46 members in a clan for a MMO that not even is in beta??? We dont even know for sure if it ever gonna be released.
Still......that also gives a little pointer for how many acually are wating for this game......i dont say its a good thing...it just the way it is.
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please read about the game before you start spreading false rumors.. thanks.
What is false about that? you aren't making any sense
please read about the game before you start spreading false rumors.. thanks.
What is false about that? you aren't making any sense
Tralla is most likely referring to Asp seeing the game in person as "proof" the game is in beta. Just another case of someone not knowing the difference between alpha and beta.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Games have come and gone during the time this game has been in development. That should tell you something. And I thought it has been in dev for more like 7 years?
nethervoid - Est. '97
[UO|EQ|SB|SWG|PS|HZ|EVE|NWN|WoW|VG|DF|AQW|DN|SWTOR|Dofus|SotA|BDO|AO|NW|LA] - Currently Playing EQ1
20k+ subs YouTube Gaming channel
Did POTBS plan to have an almost feature complete beta? If not then your comparing apples to oranges.
Did POTBS plan to have an almost feature complete beta? If not then your comparing apples to oranges.
Yea Darkfall plans a lot of things. They planned to have a 2002 beta, and a 2003 beta , and a 2004 beta etc
Now they plan to to be the only mmorpg ever that doesn't need a beta. whatever
You are really grasping at straws
I hope for a 2007 beta.
What if they had a beta when the game was not ready? That would have made them looked stupid.
/sarcasm
Game is ready when its ready, stop bickering about it.
List of SOE lies
but that's all the DF devs allow us to do
if oyu dont start nothing there wont be nothing
This my friends, is a mans game! (Pretty ladies are invited too
) I expect the game to beta/release around late 2008. Beta testing should be fairly short as the devs are spending this extra time to make the game as complete as possible prior to doing a public beta.
well i would say more Q1 of 2008 for beta if there smart
This game will eventually be released. Somewhere between 5 and 12 weeks after launch, the company will fold and shut the servers down. Most people won't notice, and of the people who do notice, only a few will care. Most of this game's fanboys will have moved on to the next end-all be-all game coming down the pipe by that time. The five or six guys still playing will be mad that the game they love got canceled, and they will spend the next 5 years on this forum complaining about how every game that comes out can't live up to their first MMO love. Eventually it will be replaced by some other mediocre flash in the pan, and the whole cycle will repeat itself.
That's my guess anyway.
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nice doom guess there that will ahppen if the game sucks but i doubt it will
DF already has a large fan base of forum members close to 50k. Most of the members on the website have very large guilds, not all guild members join the forums and post it up. Most times just the guild leaders post on the forums. Some of my guild posts there but not my entire guild. There is mass of people that will play DF, unlike you... somone that cant stand PvP without wearing girl panties while you play, such as item based, gear based, level based, instance based, unbalanced classes and faction vs faction. You are prob a WoWHammer fanboy, an mmo made for moms and people who cant handle real PvP. DF online is not about living up to the wuss so called PvP mmos like WoW, WoWHammer and Age of Conan. DF is after the hardcore PvP peoples, not moms. /cry more
There is mass of people that will play DF, unlike you... somone that cant stand PvP without wearing girl panties while you play, such as item based, gear based, level based, instance based, unbalanced classes and faction vs faction. You are prob a WoWHammer fanboy, an mmo made for moms and people who cant handle real PvP. DF online is not about living up to the wuss so called PvP mmos like WoW, WoWHammer and Age of Conan. DF is after the hardcore PvP peoples, not moms. /cry more
See, I just thought the game would fail because the market is so unfriendly to small publisher / developer games. It's difficult to compete in the MMO market with SOE, EA and the new 800lb gorilla, Activision Blizzard. That moronic rant you responded with is the reason I'll be happy when this game fails. If it's aimed at venom spewing leet hardcore PvP asshats, I'll be happy to watch it go down in flames... and this game will fail, despite your ever so eloquent arguments in it's favor.
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didnt i say if oyu dont star tnothing there wont be nothing people are tired of hearing the same crap over and over and over
we dont need to hear it to know what can happen
and yes if your afriad of hardcore pvp then yeaa i agree with the other guy
I guess it could be the next EVE. But I think, from what I have seen, that it is more likely the next Fury... or the next Ryzom, Seed or Dark & Light. I think that they start out with the handicap of being a pretty small production and make it worse by limiting their audience with 'hardcore' PvP focus. We could speculate all day, or just revisit the subject a few months after the game comes out.
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true true 1 good thing they do have a few carebear things like unversial banks alignmeant system with guards that will beat your BEEEP in the newb towns for pking also the portals that are hard to get to those we really just have to see
unversal banking has a weight limit tho so still verible for some loot stealing XD
I don't know, Darkfall has a lot of features that'll keep me in even if combat doesn't work out. But including combat some highlights are -
1. Naval battles in which cannons are fired in First person shooter mode
2. By tacking against the wind you can sail a boat faster then going straight into the wind.
3. Jumping off a a higher terrain and swinging your weapon results in more damage being done when you contact your opponent
4. Gravity + Wind effects arrow trajectory.
5. Weather conditions change battle outcomes (e.g. fog)
6. A world map with no insta teleporters that can take you several hours to walk a horizontal line across including oceans with thousands of islands.
Lots of other grand things that most other MMOs wouldn't dare to attempt! Even if it fails hopefully those attributes will push onto into other games.
What am I making up? The fact that DF has never demo'd at any gaming convention, or anywhere in public at all, ever, and has not been covered by mainstream gaming press for years? Or am I making up the fact that one of DF's graphic designers wrote on her blog that they faked most of their screenshots and videos? Or am I making up the fact that Darkfall has been in the same supposed stage of development for at least four years with no noticeable progress at all?
Am I making up the fact that the best Darkfall videos that got people excited about the game were fake ones created by kids on youtube with fake footage?
No, I'm not making anything up. The ones who are making things up are the fixated fantasizers who run around saying, "Oooh Darkfall is x, Darkfall is y, Darkfall is z." Wrong, you don't have the faintest fuck of a clue what Darkfall is, nobody does, and every public indication is that the game doesn't exist at all, which has been the conclusion of the vast majority of gamers who originally started following it back in 2001.
It's ok to rant Hal, Darkfall is bigger than both you and I. Just step back and take it all in. Relax..."don't do it when you want to go to it"
Yeah Hal, take it easy.
Or do you expect me to just give up all my MMO dreams and stop playing computer games because you think DF is a scam?
Right now there is NOTHING in any MMO that makes me interested. I played SWG until the NGE, that was the last time i was really into a MMO.
So i really need something to dream about........so is this game ever gonna come out.......SOON! (in my mind).
And if Darkfall is crap there is unfortunately nothing that can be even conisdered interesting in the making.
And i also have more fun wating for DF then playing any MMO.
Sadly (or worse) i have made many new friends from all over the world......people that are waiting to.
And worse part.......i joined a little DF clan. We are 46 members???? WTF??? 46 members in a clan for a MMO that not even is in beta??? We dont even know for sure if it ever gonna be released.
Still......that also gives a little pointer for how many acually are wating for this game......i dont say its a good thing...it just the way it is.