Great find, man! There is obviously a HUGE difference in the graphics between WoW and WAR. Those dimwits who claim that they are "the same" are looking stupid right now. The WAR graphics and race models are far more detailed and realistic vs. the cheesy cartoonish WoW race models. Anybody who sees a similarity between the two needs their eyes examined.
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WOW's are more polished and have a better art style because i don't think Mythic have done a good job putting the Warhammer Art over to the game, both are very outdated too. I wish the game had the style of the CG trailer and they went for a more dark look than a cartoony one.... but it's what they done and i guess i'll try the game and if i don't like it i can always quit.
Just by looking at this one video we can already see WAR had far better graphics than wow.. just looks at the detail in the armour then look at wow's and its easy to see why wow is like a school playground at times :P
I just can't wait untill we get some good screenshots of the lighting engine fully implamented, a few good night shots would be great
I also don't agree the WAR graphics look particularly better. Especially the Dwarves are just ... bleh imo, not that the WoW ones were great but these cretainly aren't better in my book. (lol on the WoW prebeta shots in there btw and the low level trash)
Sigh, please just stop comparing to trying and convince us to play WoW 'as it's better'..
Simple solution is: you 'WoW vs WAR' guys just continue to play WoW as in your mind nothing will ever be better than it and leave us players who want to play WAR for a Warhammer MMO not because 'it's the bestest and unique', hell if it looked like pong and stick figures, lots will still play it still because it's Warhammer.
Bottom line is yes you like WoW, just stop trying to convert us to your ways of gaming, the chaos gods have our souls
Sigh, please just stop comparing to trying and convince us to play WoW 'as it's better'.. Simple solution is: you 'WoW vs WAR' guys just continue to play WoW as in your mind nothing will ever be better than it and leave us players who want to play WAR for a Warhammer MMO not because 'it's the bestest and unique', hell if it looked like pong and stick figures, lots will still play it still because it's Warhammer. Bottom line is yes you like WoW, just stop trying to convert us to your ways of gaming, the chaos gods have our souls
Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Hmm... I think wow had better graphics. I looks very childish the WAR graph, more like a Saturday morning cartoon. Sorry
Well.... Not a game for me..
Oh the hipocrisy of you calling wartrolls to all the guys who say bad things about AoC in the AoC forum... and then coming to the war forum posting this kind of nonsense... please spare us this kind of comments and well you could always read an english manual...
Well at least one of the sentences you used is true... i will put it in red in the quote
Hmm... I think wow had better graphics. I looks very childish the WAR graph, more like a Saturday morning cartoon. Sorry
Well.... Not a game for me..
Oh the hipocrisy of you calling wartrolls to all the guys who say bad things about AoC in the AoC forum... and then coming to the war forum posting this kind of nonsense... please spare us this kind of comments and well you could always read an english manual...
Well at least one of the sentences you used is true... i will put it in red in the quote
Sigh, please just stop comparing to trying and convince us to play WoW 'as it's better'.. Simple solution is: you 'WoW vs WAR' guys just continue to play WoW as in your mind nothing will ever be better than it and leave us players who want to play WAR for a Warhammer MMO not because 'it's the bestest and unique', hell if it looked like pong and stick figures, lots will still play it still because it's Warhammer. Bottom line is yes you like WoW, just stop trying to convert us to your ways of gaming, the chaos gods have our souls
Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Right you want me to explain why we are sick of the 'WAR vs WoW' issue fine...
One of Games Workshop's first PC projects was actally in conjuction WITH Blizzard, however due to creative differences or somthing GW dropped the project, but Blizzard kept it, that ladies and gentlemen is in fact your FIRST Warcraft title.
Games Workshop actally tried sueing Blizzard serveral times for copyright issues some they actally won others they lost due to Blizzard changing the graphical images 'just enough' to escape the lawsuit (I beleave that was WC3 developemnt time). Blizzard even addmitted during the devvelopment of WoW itself that their design ideas are influenced by both Warhammer and Lord of the Rings...
This is why Warhammer looks like Warcraft... Warcraft techically speaking is Warhammer's 'son'...
Right on the gameplay front: As I've already explained MANY times before WoW is just basically a polished blend of all ideas from past games and MMOs, it's a pritty Frankestin, hence why everything 'clones' WoW, it's just the basic core design of any MMO..
I'm in on way saying thats a bad thing, hell why fix whats not broken? All thats really 'broken' in the case of Mythic's thinking is that WoW does indeed lack the means for open world PVP on a gamewide front, it's more of a 'minigame' to pve, Mythic's flipped that techcially.. Also the questing issue has been 'broken' for a long time as it tends to be a grind, they've attemped to 'fix' that, LFGing is also a bore to them so public quests were made...
Other than those core design changes, yes, it'll boil down to the same basic WoW-ish temple, as like I said one thing that Blizzard did well with WoW was to blend the cores of older games together into a nice package.. Theres little room for improvement these days unless (like what AoC/TR/etc) are doing and attpemting to completing change the core design, all devs can do these days is refine and streamline.
Bottom line is with their 'history' we know Warcraft was spawned mostly from Warhammer but by core MMO design yes WAR is based partly from WoW's refined design, it's just damn annoying when players scream 'clone' without knowing all the facts esspessally when they never heard of Warhammer until WAR (or DoW) hit, poeple like me have tryed to explain this tons of times, the IP are releated from now 15 years of history, but people STILL try and druge 'OMG it's a WoW clone' up, many are just tired of claims from misinformation..
Funny thing is the gaming instrustry is the only thing we bother to complain about when things 'look' the same, we don't go about saying 'FORD COPIED SEAT!!!' as car is just a car... so why can't a game JUST be a game?
Yes comparisons are pretty pointless, but for the life of me I can't understand why these hardcore WoW fanbois would think a game being a bit like WoW would be a bad thing?
I think you have to take each game as it comes, especially when WAR is trying to do somethin different with the genre...
Whether they actually accomplish "something different" is another matter, fingers crossed!
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Sigh, please just stop comparing to trying and convince us to play WoW 'as it's better'.. Simple solution is: you 'WoW vs WAR' guys just continue to play WoW as in your mind nothing will ever be better than it and leave us players who want to play WAR for a Warhammer MMO not because 'it's the bestest and unique', hell if it looked like pong and stick figures, lots will still play it still because it's Warhammer. Bottom line is yes you like WoW, just stop trying to convert us to your ways of gaming, the chaos gods have our souls
Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Right you want me to explain why we are sick of the 'WAR vs WoW' issue fine...
One of Games Workshop's first PC projects was actally in conjuction WITH Blizzard, however due to creative differences or somthing GW dropped the project, but Blizzard kept it, that ladies and gentlemen is in fact your FIRST Warcraft title.
Games Workshop actally tried sueing Blizzard serveral times for copyright issues some they actally won others they lost due to Blizzard changing the graphical images 'just enough' to escape the lawsuit (I beleave that was WC3 developemnt time). Blizzard even addmitted during the devvelopment of WoW itself that their design ideas are influenced by both Warhammer and Lord of the Rings...
This is why Warhammer looks like Warcraft... Warcraft techically speaking is Warhammer's 'son'...
Right on the gameplay front: As I've already explained MANY times before WoW is just basically a polished blend of all ideas from past games and MMOs, it's a pritty Frankestin, hence why everything 'clones' WoW, it's just the basic core design of any MMO..
I'm in on way saying thats a bad thing, hell why fix whats not broken? All thats really 'broken' in the case of Mythic's thinking is that WoW does indeed lack the means for open world PVP on a gamewide front, it's more of a 'minigame' to pve, Mythic's flipped that techcially.. Also the questing issue has been 'broken' for a long time as it tends to be a grind, they've attemped to 'fix' that, LFGing is also a bore to them so public quests were made...
Other than those core design changes, yes, it'll boil down to the same basic WoW-ish temple, as like I said one thing that Blizzard did well with WoW was to blend the cores of older games together into a nice package.. Theres little room for improvement these days unless (like what AoC/TR/etc) are doing and attpemting to completing change the core design, all devs can do these days is refine and streamline.
Bottom line is with their 'history' we know Warcraft was spawned mostly from Warhammer but by core MMO design yes WAR is based partly from WoW's refined design, it's just damn annoying when players scream 'clone' without knowing all the facts esspessally when they never heard of Warhammer until WAR (or DoW) hit, poeple like me have tryed to explain this tons of times, the IP are releated from now 15 years of history, but people STILL try and druge 'OMG it's a WoW clone' up, many are just tired of claims from misinformation..
Funny thing is the gaming instrustry is the only thing we bother to complain about when things 'look' the same, we don't go about saying 'FORD COPIED SEAT!!!' as car is just a car... so why can't a game JUST be a game?
Heard it once, heard it a million times.
Did you read my post? Try doing that and try and see *what* I was saying and comment on *that* instead of going into the typical frothing at the mouth "ZOmg ZWoW copied Ze War!"as soon as someone mentions the comparison.
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On that note however. Besides the fact that they look similar, WAR is just that, a MMO , just like WOW is a MMO, and besides some graphical similarities NEITHER of these franchises had anything to do with MMO's before this.
It's like both of them building a Car and painting them with WAR graphics and some zealot coming at us spitting saliva all over us how he explains Warhammer did it all first and WoW stole it yet the only point where that's of significance is the looks, which for me is only a small part of what makes that thing and you can bet your behind I'm *way* more interested in the engine in that car than I am about the looks.
WAR isn't reinventing the weel here. They didn't make some hovercraft or UFO here instead of a car, they copied the car just like everyone else did and added/changed a few of the peripherals, that's it.
Sigh, please just stop comparing to trying and convince us to play WoW 'as it's better'.. Simple solution is: you 'WoW vs WAR' guys just continue to play WoW as in your mind nothing will ever be better than it and leave us players who want to play WAR for a Warhammer MMO not because 'it's the bestest and unique', hell if it looked like pong and stick figures, lots will still play it still because it's Warhammer. Bottom line is yes you like WoW, just stop trying to convert us to your ways of gaming, the chaos gods have our souls
Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Right you want me to explain why we are sick of the 'WAR vs WoW' issue fine...
One of Games Workshop's first PC projects was actally in conjuction WITH Blizzard, however due to creative differences or somthing GW dropped the project, but Blizzard kept it, that ladies and gentlemen is in fact your FIRST Warcraft title.
Games Workshop actally tried sueing Blizzard serveral times for copyright issues some they actally won others they lost due to Blizzard changing the graphical images 'just enough' to escape the lawsuit (I beleave that was WC3 developemnt time). Blizzard even addmitted during the devvelopment of WoW itself that their design ideas are influenced by both Warhammer and Lord of the Rings...
This is why Warhammer looks like Warcraft... Warcraft techically speaking is Warhammer's 'son'...
Right on the gameplay front: As I've already explained MANY times before WoW is just basically a polished blend of all ideas from past games and MMOs, it's a pritty Frankestin, hence why everything 'clones' WoW, it's just the basic core design of any MMO..
I'm in on way saying thats a bad thing, hell why fix whats not broken? All thats really 'broken' in the case of Mythic's thinking is that WoW does indeed lack the means for open world PVP on a gamewide front, it's more of a 'minigame' to pve, Mythic's flipped that techcially.. Also the questing issue has been 'broken' for a long time as it tends to be a grind, they've attemped to 'fix' that, LFGing is also a bore to them so public quests were made...
Other than those core design changes, yes, it'll boil down to the same basic WoW-ish temple, as like I said one thing that Blizzard did well with WoW was to blend the cores of older games together into a nice package.. Theres little room for improvement these days unless (like what AoC/TR/etc) are doing and attpemting to completing change the core design, all devs can do these days is refine and streamline.
Bottom line is with their 'history' we know Warcraft was spawned mostly from Warhammer but by core MMO design yes WAR is based partly from WoW's refined design, it's just damn annoying when players scream 'clone' without knowing all the facts esspessally when they never heard of Warhammer until WAR (or DoW) hit, poeple like me have tryed to explain this tons of times, the IP are releated from now 15 years of history, but people STILL try and druge 'OMG it's a WoW clone' up, many are just tired of claims from misinformation..
Funny thing is the gaming instrustry is the only thing we bother to complain about when things 'look' the same, we don't go about saying 'FORD COPIED SEAT!!!' as car is just a car... so why can't a game JUST be a game?
Heard it once, heard it a million times.
Did you read my post? Try doing that and try and see *what* I was saying and comment on *that* instead of going into the typical frothing at the mouth "ZOmg ZWoW copied Ze War!"as soon as someone mentions the comparison. Lets go to the WoW forums and post this thread and see how many typical frothing at the mouth "zomg war copied wow" boys and girls we get posting rubbish and running down other peoples opinions. Not that you would point out how WoW fans act. Which are far more typical and trollish than the WAR fans that I've seen. It's a rough business defending against the WoW troll legion. Noones going to get rid of the roaches though.
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On that note however. Besides the fact that they look similar, WAR is just that, a MMO , just like WOW is a MMO, and besides some graphical similarities NEITHER of these franchises had anything to do with MMO's before this. Actually Mythic had a previous mmo, which to me shares more simliarities graphically. The only graphical similarities I see between wow and war are some minor environment details and basic fundamentals.. like they both have orcs and the anatomy of the races.
It's like both of them building a Car and painting them with WAR graphics and some zealot coming at us spitting saliva all over us how he explains Warhammer did it all first and WoW stole it yet the only point where that's of significance is the looks, which for me is only a small part of what makes that thing and you can bet your behind I'm *way* more interested in the engine in that car than I am about the looks. I'm not good with cars so my analogy might be a bit off, but both built a car, one designed it to look like a Civic, and the other like an Accord. They are both cars(mmos) but one looks sleeker, has more options like a sunroof(Pub quests, tome of knowledge, etc.), and has a custom paint job. The other is a basic white with no options. As far as engines well, one is still in the prototype stage. Tweaks will come just like every other car gets over time.
WAR isn't reinventing the weel here. They didn't make some hovercraft or UFO here instead of a car, they copied the car just like everyone else did and added/changed a few of the peripherals, that's it. True they aren't, but they are taking a wheel and putting the spinner rims on it.
Of course you know this is just my opinion, and I think WoW did alot of this when they first brought their IP to the mmo scene. They took a wheel and put spinner rims on it. Just like the next mmos to come out after WAR and AoC will do.
No more car analogies from me ever again....
And Vortex thanks for the info
I actually was looking for the info on the second song, which apparently noone likes except me haha
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/smacks himself in the forehead.
Oh, brother, not another one of these topics again.
Anyway, carry on.
It's alright, not a fan of the graphic comparison thing though.
Any idea what the name of that song was? I liked it.
Boondock Saints I belive not sure.
Lol ! WAR orcs look like they could eat the ones from wow for breakfast.
http://revolutionwar.guildlaunch.com/
Great find, man! There is obviously a HUGE difference in the graphics between WoW and WAR. Those dimwits who claim that they are "the same" are looking stupid right now. The WAR graphics and race models are far more detailed and realistic vs. the cheesy cartoonish WoW race models. Anybody who sees a similarity between the two needs their eyes examined.
WIsh people would stop comparing the 2 anyway.
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>> EQ1 2000-2004 - Shaman/Bard/Wizard/Monk - nolife raid-whore
>> WoW 2004-2009 + Cataclysm for 2 months - hardcore casual
>> Current status : done with MMO, too old for that crap.
Good video and graphical comparison.
WOW's are more polished and have a better art style because i don't think Mythic have done a good job putting the Warhammer Art over to the game, both are very outdated too. I wish the game had the style of the CG trailer and they went for a more dark look than a cartoony one.... but it's what they done and i guess i'll try the game and if i don't like it i can always quit.
Hmm... I think wow had better graphics. I looks very childish the WAR graph, more like a Saturday morning cartoon. Sorry
Well.... Not a game for me..
Just by looking at this one video we can already see WAR had far better graphics than wow.. just looks at the detail in the armour then look at wow's and its easy to see why wow is like a school playground at times :P
I just can't wait untill we get some good screenshots of the lighting engine fully implamented, a few good night shots would be great
I also don't agree the WAR graphics look particularly better. Especially the Dwarves are just ... bleh imo, not that the WoW ones were great but these cretainly aren't better in my book. (lol on the WoW prebeta shots in there btw and the low level trash)
WAR wins hands down.
Sigh, please just stop comparing to trying and convince us to play WoW 'as it's better'..
Simple solution is: you 'WoW vs WAR' guys just continue to play WoW as in your mind nothing will ever be better than it and leave us players who want to play WAR for a Warhammer MMO not because 'it's the bestest and unique', hell if it looked like pong and stick figures, lots will still play it still because it's Warhammer.
Bottom line is yes you like WoW, just stop trying to convert us to your ways of gaming, the chaos gods have our souls
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Its the main theme to the movie The Boondock Saints and its called "The Blood of Cuchulainn".
Its really nice.
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Is this gonna go on forever? Ever since WAR came out people have done nothing more than comparing it to wow. Is wow that compedetive?
And to the topic, wow has outdated graphics so meh, war wins..? Didn't even bother to look at the vid.
The speed of the mole and the power of steel is my weapon
Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Every game, brand new or 10 years old, wins against wow, those discussions are boring.
Oh the hipocrisy of you calling wartrolls to all the guys who say bad things about AoC in the AoC forum... and then coming to the war forum posting this kind of nonsense... please spare us this kind of comments and well you could always read an english manual...
Well at least one of the sentences you used is true... i will put it in red in the quote
Oh the hipocrisy of you calling wartrolls to all the guys who say bad things about AoC in the AoC forum... and then coming to the war forum posting this kind of nonsense... please spare us this kind of comments and well you could always read an english manual...
Well at least one of the sentences you used is true... i will put it in red in the quote
hahahaha 10 points
Its stupid to compare two games that have so completely different coding.
WoW is after all a few years old now...new gfx systems have been developed since then...
Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Right you want me to explain why we are sick of the 'WAR vs WoW' issue fine...
One of Games Workshop's first PC projects was actally in conjuction WITH Blizzard, however due to creative differences or somthing GW dropped the project, but Blizzard kept it, that ladies and gentlemen is in fact your FIRST Warcraft title.
Games Workshop actally tried sueing Blizzard serveral times for copyright issues some they actally won others they lost due to Blizzard changing the graphical images 'just enough' to escape the lawsuit (I beleave that was WC3 developemnt time). Blizzard even addmitted during the devvelopment of WoW itself that their design ideas are influenced by both Warhammer and Lord of the Rings...
This is why Warhammer looks like Warcraft... Warcraft techically speaking is Warhammer's 'son'...
Right on the gameplay front: As I've already explained MANY times before WoW is just basically a polished blend of all ideas from past games and MMOs, it's a pritty Frankestin, hence why everything 'clones' WoW, it's just the basic core design of any MMO..
I'm in on way saying thats a bad thing, hell why fix whats not broken? All thats really 'broken' in the case of Mythic's thinking is that WoW does indeed lack the means for open world PVP on a gamewide front, it's more of a 'minigame' to pve, Mythic's flipped that techcially.. Also the questing issue has been 'broken' for a long time as it tends to be a grind, they've attemped to 'fix' that, LFGing is also a bore to them so public quests were made...
Other than those core design changes, yes, it'll boil down to the same basic WoW-ish temple, as like I said one thing that Blizzard did well with WoW was to blend the cores of older games together into a nice package.. Theres little room for improvement these days unless (like what AoC/TR/etc) are doing and attpemting to completing change the core design, all devs can do these days is refine and streamline.
Bottom line is with their 'history' we know Warcraft was spawned mostly from Warhammer but by core MMO design yes WAR is based partly from WoW's refined design, it's just damn annoying when players scream 'clone' without knowing all the facts esspessally when they never heard of Warhammer until WAR (or DoW) hit, poeple like me have tryed to explain this tons of times, the IP are releated from now 15 years of history, but people STILL try and druge 'OMG it's a WoW clone' up, many are just tired of claims from misinformation..
Funny thing is the gaming instrustry is the only thing we bother to complain about when things 'look' the same, we don't go about saying 'FORD COPIED SEAT!!!' as car is just a car... so why can't a game JUST be a game?
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Yes comparisons are pretty pointless, but for the life of me I can't understand why these hardcore WoW fanbois would think a game being a bit like WoW would be a bad thing?
I think you have to take each game as it comes, especially when WAR is trying to do somethin different with the genre...
Whether they actually accomplish "something different" is another matter, fingers crossed!
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Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Right you want me to explain why we are sick of the 'WAR vs WoW' issue fine...
One of Games Workshop's first PC projects was actally in conjuction WITH Blizzard, however due to creative differences or somthing GW dropped the project, but Blizzard kept it, that ladies and gentlemen is in fact your FIRST Warcraft title.
Games Workshop actally tried sueing Blizzard serveral times for copyright issues some they actally won others they lost due to Blizzard changing the graphical images 'just enough' to escape the lawsuit (I beleave that was WC3 developemnt time). Blizzard even addmitted during the devvelopment of WoW itself that their design ideas are influenced by both Warhammer and Lord of the Rings...
This is why Warhammer looks like Warcraft... Warcraft techically speaking is Warhammer's 'son'...
Right on the gameplay front: As I've already explained MANY times before WoW is just basically a polished blend of all ideas from past games and MMOs, it's a pritty Frankestin, hence why everything 'clones' WoW, it's just the basic core design of any MMO..
I'm in on way saying thats a bad thing, hell why fix whats not broken? All thats really 'broken' in the case of Mythic's thinking is that WoW does indeed lack the means for open world PVP on a gamewide front, it's more of a 'minigame' to pve, Mythic's flipped that techcially.. Also the questing issue has been 'broken' for a long time as it tends to be a grind, they've attemped to 'fix' that, LFGing is also a bore to them so public quests were made...
Other than those core design changes, yes, it'll boil down to the same basic WoW-ish temple, as like I said one thing that Blizzard did well with WoW was to blend the cores of older games together into a nice package.. Theres little room for improvement these days unless (like what AoC/TR/etc) are doing and attpemting to completing change the core design, all devs can do these days is refine and streamline.
Bottom line is with their 'history' we know Warcraft was spawned mostly from Warhammer but by core MMO design yes WAR is based partly from WoW's refined design, it's just damn annoying when players scream 'clone' without knowing all the facts esspessally when they never heard of Warhammer until WAR (or DoW) hit, poeple like me have tryed to explain this tons of times, the IP are releated from now 15 years of history, but people STILL try and druge 'OMG it's a WoW clone' up, many are just tired of claims from misinformation..
Funny thing is the gaming instrustry is the only thing we bother to complain about when things 'look' the same, we don't go about saying 'FORD COPIED SEAT!!!' as car is just a car... so why can't a game JUST be a game?
Heard it once, heard it a million times.
Did you read my post? Try doing that and try and see *what* I was saying and comment on *that* instead of going into the typical frothing at the mouth "ZOmg ZWoW copied Ze War!"as soon as someone mentions the comparison.
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On that note however. Besides the fact that they look similar, WAR is just that, a MMO , just like WOW is a MMO, and besides some graphical similarities NEITHER of these franchises had anything to do with MMO's before this.
It's like both of them building a Car and painting them with WAR graphics and some zealot coming at us spitting saliva all over us how he explains Warhammer did it all first and WoW stole it yet the only point where that's of significance is the looks, which for me is only a small part of what makes that thing and you can bet your behind I'm *way* more interested in the engine in that car than I am about the looks.
WAR isn't reinventing the weel here. They didn't make some hovercraft or UFO here instead of a car, they copied the car just like everyone else did and added/changed a few of the peripherals, that's it.
Haha, wow this certainly shows a state of mind.
You know, "us" WoW people aren't the ones making these comparison video's thread mostly, it's "you" WAR people... to explain it into your logic ^^
Once the thread is there it's normal to give an opinion on it. If you don't like that not everyone shares the same opinion as you on a discussion forum ... um... don't read these threads?
Right you want me to explain why we are sick of the 'WAR vs WoW' issue fine...
One of Games Workshop's first PC projects was actally in conjuction WITH Blizzard, however due to creative differences or somthing GW dropped the project, but Blizzard kept it, that ladies and gentlemen is in fact your FIRST Warcraft title.
Games Workshop actally tried sueing Blizzard serveral times for copyright issues some they actally won others they lost due to Blizzard changing the graphical images 'just enough' to escape the lawsuit (I beleave that was WC3 developemnt time). Blizzard even addmitted during the devvelopment of WoW itself that their design ideas are influenced by both Warhammer and Lord of the Rings...
This is why Warhammer looks like Warcraft... Warcraft techically speaking is Warhammer's 'son'...
Right on the gameplay front: As I've already explained MANY times before WoW is just basically a polished blend of all ideas from past games and MMOs, it's a pritty Frankestin, hence why everything 'clones' WoW, it's just the basic core design of any MMO..
I'm in on way saying thats a bad thing, hell why fix whats not broken? All thats really 'broken' in the case of Mythic's thinking is that WoW does indeed lack the means for open world PVP on a gamewide front, it's more of a 'minigame' to pve, Mythic's flipped that techcially.. Also the questing issue has been 'broken' for a long time as it tends to be a grind, they've attemped to 'fix' that, LFGing is also a bore to them so public quests were made...
Other than those core design changes, yes, it'll boil down to the same basic WoW-ish temple, as like I said one thing that Blizzard did well with WoW was to blend the cores of older games together into a nice package.. Theres little room for improvement these days unless (like what AoC/TR/etc) are doing and attpemting to completing change the core design, all devs can do these days is refine and streamline.
Bottom line is with their 'history' we know Warcraft was spawned mostly from Warhammer but by core MMO design yes WAR is based partly from WoW's refined design, it's just damn annoying when players scream 'clone' without knowing all the facts esspessally when they never heard of Warhammer until WAR (or DoW) hit, poeple like me have tryed to explain this tons of times, the IP are releated from now 15 years of history, but people STILL try and druge 'OMG it's a WoW clone' up, many are just tired of claims from misinformation..
Funny thing is the gaming instrustry is the only thing we bother to complain about when things 'look' the same, we don't go about saying 'FORD COPIED SEAT!!!' as car is just a car... so why can't a game JUST be a game?
Heard it once, heard it a million times.
Did you read my post? Try doing that and try and see *what* I was saying and comment on *that* instead of going into the typical frothing at the mouth "ZOmg ZWoW copied Ze War!"as soon as someone mentions the comparison. Lets go to the WoW forums and post this thread and see how many typical frothing at the mouth "zomg war copied wow" boys and girls we get posting rubbish and running down other peoples opinions. Not that you would point out how WoW fans act. Which are far more typical and trollish than the WAR fans that I've seen. It's a rough business defending against the WoW troll legion. Noones going to get rid of the roaches though.
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On that note however. Besides the fact that they look similar, WAR is just that, a MMO , just like WOW is a MMO, and besides some graphical similarities NEITHER of these franchises had anything to do with MMO's before this. Actually Mythic had a previous mmo, which to me shares more simliarities graphically. The only graphical similarities I see between wow and war are some minor environment details and basic fundamentals.. like they both have orcs and the anatomy of the races.
It's like both of them building a Car and painting them with WAR graphics and some zealot coming at us spitting saliva all over us how he explains Warhammer did it all first and WoW stole it yet the only point where that's of significance is the looks, which for me is only a small part of what makes that thing and you can bet your behind I'm *way* more interested in the engine in that car than I am about the looks. I'm not good with cars so my analogy might be a bit off, but both built a car, one designed it to look like a Civic, and the other like an Accord. They are both cars(mmos) but one looks sleeker, has more options like a sunroof(Pub quests, tome of knowledge, etc.), and has a custom paint job. The other is a basic white with no options. As far as engines well, one is still in the prototype stage. Tweaks will come just like every other car gets over time.
WAR isn't reinventing the weel here. They didn't make some hovercraft or UFO here instead of a car, they copied the car just like everyone else did and added/changed a few of the peripherals, that's it. True they aren't, but they are taking a wheel and putting the spinner rims on it.
Of course you know this is just my opinion, and I think WoW did alot of this when they first brought their IP to the mmo scene. They took a wheel and put spinner rims on it. Just like the next mmos to come out after WAR and AoC will do.
No more car analogies from me ever again....
And Vortex thanks for the info
I actually was looking for the info on the second song, which apparently noone likes except me haha
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And Vortex thanks for the info
I actually was looking for the info on the second song, which apparently noone likes except me haha
Np mate. I think the second song is by Nightwish and called "Dark chest of wonders". Have a nice day Impyriel.
youtube.com/watch
The Second Day Vet
EDIT: Oh and I really like that song too...