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Has Barack doomed himself for supporting drivers licenses for illegals?

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  • ErmacErmac Member Posts: 103

     

    Originally posted by gnomexxx


     
    No, it's not about racism.  If it were then why are there legal immigrants from Mexico who believe that people coming across the American border unchecked is wrong as well?
     
    It's recognition that a country cannot sustain itself without sovereignty and a belief in the law.  Period.

     

    Maybe I am wrong, but weren't there mass protests by legal mexican immigrants not that long ago about letting illegals come over and the "harsh treatment" they were getting.

    Personally, I don't even understand the whole illegal immigration thing.  As far as I know there arn't a bunch of illegal mexican doctors, lawyers and teachers coming up to take jobs.  All I hear is they take unskilled, low pay jobs like fruit picking and contruction.  I have to say if you were planning on being a construction worker or fruit picker as a career maybe you should just go to college and get a real job.  I don't mean to aim this at you gnomexxx, just anyone who really thinks the illegals are taking worthwhile jobs.

  • abbabaabbaba Member Posts: 1,143
    Originally posted by Entreri28

    Originally posted by abbaba


    First of all, both Islam and Christianity have violent histories. The Crusades were certainly very violent, but do you know what the crusades were in response too? Do you think North Africa, southern Spain, and the Holy Land just decided one day to become muslim? No, the muslims invaded and converted the population, sometimes by "join us or die" and sometimes by coercion. (Christians had to pay a special tax, Christians couldn't hold government offices, etc.).
    The real difference is that there are no more crusades, but Islamic clerics are still calling Jihads. People are still killed and persecuted with government sanction because of their faith in the muslim world.
     
     
    Illegal immigration isn't about race. It's about the laws of the country and whether or not Americans can decide who gets to live in America. Right now all you have to do is pretty much walk across the border. Drug smugglers, human traffickers, other criminals are pretty much free to come and go as they please.
    Second, Americans have a right to decide who gets to come here. No one has a right to become a citizen of another country without that country's consent. Imagine if Americans started crossing the border illegally into Canada in droves and demanding citizenship. I don't think anyone would agree with them. This is the same situation.
    Are you a plumber? Maybe America doesn't have a plumber shortage. That's tough. America is not the third world's welfare system. You can't always get what you want. Deal with it.
     
     
     
     

    LMAO let's ask the native americans who they think should be allowed to live in America, somehow I don't think they wanted immigrants coming in and taking over a few hundred years ago, not to mention attempted enslavement and genocide.  The only difference is we original illegal immigrants are getting the short end of the stick now and we don't like it.

    You can't excuse something bad happening now by pointing to something bad that happened in the past. It's a non sequiter

  • Entreri28Entreri28 Member Posts: 589

     

    Originally posted by abbaba


    You can't excuse something bad happening now by pointing to something bad that happened in the past. It's a non sequiter

     

    I don't mean to excuse it, I just don't feel I have a right to complain unless I am ready to give up my property to Native Americans since it is rightfully theirs.  Obviously, I have no intention of giving up my property.

    Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
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  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111

     

    Originally posted by Ermac 
    Personally, I don't even understand the whole illegal immigration thing.  As far as I know there arn't a bunch of illegal mexican doctors, lawyers and teachers coming up to take jobs.  All I hear is they take unskilled, low pay jobs like fruit picking and contruction.  I have to say if you were planning on being a construction worker or fruit picker as a career maybe you should just go to college and get a real job.  I don't mean to aim this at you gnomexxx, just anyone who really thinks the illegals are taking worthwhile jobs.

    So millions of 40 something year old construction workers, restaurant workers, hotel workers and other low paying unskilled workers who are barely making enough to pay the bills as it is, should all now find both the money and time to go to college and become doctors and lawyers and teachers?

     

    Not very realistic are you.

    Maybe if illegal aliens weren't driving those unskilled job salaries down they might have the extra money and time to pursue a higher education and skilled profession.

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  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810

    Originally posted by Samuraisword


     
    Originally posted by Ermac 
    Personally, I don't even understand the whole illegal immigration thing.  As far as I know there arn't a bunch of illegal mexican doctors, lawyers and teachers coming up to take jobs.  All I hear is they take unskilled, low pay jobs like fruit picking and contruction.  I have to say if you were planning on being a construction worker or fruit picker as a career maybe you should just go to college and get a real job.  I don't mean to aim this at you gnomexxx, just anyone who really thinks the illegals are taking worthwhile jobs.

    So millions of 40 something year old construction workers, restaurant workers, hotel workers and other low paying unskilled workers who are barely making enough to pay the bills as it is, should all now find both the money and time to go to college and become doctors and lawyers and teachers?

     

    Not very realistic are you.

    Maybe if illegal aliens weren't driving those unskilled job salaries down they might have the extra money and time to pursue a higher education and skilled profession.

     

    They already have found other jobs.  Even with the current economic troubles unemployment rates in the US are near historic lows.  Even if there were enough people to actually do these jobs, which there aren’t, a nurse who looses her job in Atlanta is not going to pick up and move across the country to pick fruit for $40 a day while she looks for another nursing job. 

     

    If you actually enforced current immigration laws, what would happen is that hundreds of thousands of business would go bankrupt and send the US into the worst economic times since the great depression.  At the same time, food prices would rise dramatically as would the cost of building new offices and factories.  What do you think happens to the middle class under these conditions? 

  • AbIeLAbIeL Member UncommonPosts: 152

    lol i dont know why you guys are scare of immigrant having driver license. immigrant with driver license they can buy car , and we get the money

  • hazmatshazmats Member Posts: 1,081


    Originally posted by AbIeL
    lol i dont know why you guys are scare of immigrant having driver license. immigrant with driver license they can buy car , and we get the money

    illegal immigrants. not immigrants. Meaning, those who are breaking the law by living here shouldn't be allowed to drive a car here too.

  • AbIeLAbIeL Member UncommonPosts: 152

    i really dont care about this, only thing i care is  Spanish girls :D

    they could keep on coming if they want

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