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Ok, I guess replying to you is going to remind me of dealing with the current VG staff as I will have to pull you around via lil red wagon. (That means help you along because you are having trouble getting places you need to go FYI)
1. No props, allow me to be of assistance to interpret what is what.
Illness=Corrupt&incompetent GM staff Health=Knowledge of Facts, Knowledge of Cure
2. Q: Did you 'test' the bug on other players or mobs without that persons knowledge or consent?
A: Absolutely Not
What were all those petitions against you for? Not using the bug against players? How did you 'test' this bug for hours if you didn't test it on players or on mobs? This is why I asked for you to provide undeniable evidence, but here, I just have your word.
3. Q: Did you 'test' the bug AFTER you asked the GM to help and he said, "no"? This is basically you asking for permission to test and the GM telling you not too....so did you anyway?
A: I will assume you are referring to section 1) or 2) of the OP. Why don't you take a little time and re examine, this lesson may help you better understand what people are saying when they communicate.
As I will clearly show in no way shape or form am I ever asking permission to test and in no way shape or form am I ever being asked or told not to test. Your skills at comprehension are not impressive to say the least.
I'm very sorry, you seem to be the one without comprehension skills. For you see, using reading comprehension, according to your own statement, it was implicit that you should not attempt to 'test' the exploit. I'll break it down to you again;
The GM stated according to you:
“No” the problem is being taken care of”
“Yes, it will be fixed soon”
Now, did you really not comprehend that the SOE staff had the problem taken care of? Did they need you at all? You say they never told you 'not' to test an exploitable bug. Did you truly not comprehend your EULA? The language there is pretty explicit. These GM statements may not be an explicit denial of permission, but rather, it is implicit that you are not to test the bug. Because of the agreement you signed to play the game and because of statements you say a GM made yourself, you have not clearly shown anything at all.
If you don't realize you did wrong, or you can't admit that you did wrong, or you think your attitude has somehow helped your argument, you are truly self-deluded.
I'm done responding to your inane blather. You are truly insufferable and I'm glad you are no longer allowed to play Vanguard.
And P.S.
Before you impune someone's reading skills again, perhaps you should make sure they aren't a certified Language Arts instructor.
Let me know if you still have trouble comprehending and I will be glad to assist you further.
Insulting me isn't making me believe you any more, I laugh at your attempt to bully me into thinking you are telling the truth, and it certainly isn't making me sorry for the loss of your toons in VG.
I asked if he had time to come test it with me, he said "no" (as in he does not have time), the problem is being taken care of” (as in the bug will be fixed.......the bug still exists) <-- Right there, wtf, you think that means its ok for you to break the EULA and test it? How do you get that, what form of reading comprehension did you learn in elementary school? Yeah, I'm the one with comprehension problems.
And P.S.
Before you impune someone's reading skills again, perhaps you should make sure they aren't a certified Language Arts instructor. Try to know your enemy, or you end up underestimating them. Like you did with SOE.
Are you sure you know your enemy? think real hard now...who am I, what am I....what do I know and how do I know it? can you answer these things?
And in no way shape or form am I bullying you nor insulting you. I am clearly stating and then proving that you are having problems comprehending the information before you as I will further point out......again.
Now, if you can quote or prove somewhere, me claiming a test of this bug without a GM assisting me that equates to me reproducing an exploit or bug IE breaking the EULA before 02-06-08 (the date of the ban for said claim) I will then apologize as you felt insulted were no insult was an intent and believe in your ability to accurately comprehend information to some degree.
Do you mean here? /peersatinformation I'm not seeing it, do you?
Any other way I can be of assistance to help further your education on this matter or any others?
I don't really believe you to be MY enemy as I have yet to feel threatened.
PS. no results came of said tests in the above quote as I stayed within that chunk and when I entered the pet was recalled. The test seemed to indicate that recalling the pet after crossing a chunk line made the pet attack normally
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You are an exploiter who got caught.
You were banned and will not return.
You will fail in any attempt to get any CS rep fired.
Justice has been served.
All I can say is if someone needs to go to this length to justify an apparent misue of a game exploit, then imo from years of mmo gaming, this person defiantely must have been doing something they shouldnt have been, But thats just my 2 cents
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This is why the only Sony games I will play are F2P ones this way if its screwed up its ok. I don't even buy Sony electronics. Sony is a broken company.
Must really bother you that sony makes more money in one day than every member of your family will make in the next 300 years
Seriously. Are you DRUNK?
Actually, you haven't really answered any of my post. You have tap-danced around the issues that I brought up or just blantantly ignored them. Just as well though. I never harbored any illusion that you would attempt otherwise.You are an exploiter who got caught.
You were banned and will not return.
You will fail in any attempt to get any CS rep fired.
Justice has been served.
You are certainly entitled to an opinion whether it is well thought out and based in fact or not, have a good day.
I am not an exploiter and have never once been banned since the days of UO to now with the exception of this one time. And never once in my time as an SOE customer which dates to 2003 and includes 3 years in SWG (where I founded my current guild), several months in EQ2 and now in VG where I have been a customer since beta till now.
I have no desire to return to that game what so ever and I am removing my guild as well.
I have 0 expectations and 0 confidence that SOE will do the right thing but I'm quit confident that if an investigation "were" made by a competent party that disciplinary action would and should be taken at some level concerning the erring and incompetent CR rep/reps involved.
Nothing "just" has occurred to this point and even now the new bug remains to be unfixed and further explosions of angry customers are sharing their unhappiness on the VG forums. (threads continue to be deleted and covered up)
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I will further point out your error in judgment and inability to have an open and objective mindset which { Mod Edit }.
Here you admit to not know me me from "shinola" but seem to be quite certain I am, from the word go......making false accusations.
Other obvious errs in your statement are you boasting to speak for most people here and then add the "we don't know you" to the statement instead of "I don't know you"...are you Legion?
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You were told by who? VG staff member perhaps? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was as my wife sent a link to this thread to GM Moonlite via PM. And I'm sure they would like nothing more than to dispute this information in hopes it serves to continue to cover up their incompetence, miss management and fabrication of information that proves they have abused customers.
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As you already know, SOE will not discuss the status of other player's accounts or CS interactions with other players with anyone (including a spouse).
Players take note when someone is acting so childish in broad daylight. I know several players who still enjoy VG, and one of these players read your original post on the official forums.
So yet again, it was YOU who sank your own ship. Not someone who was out to get you for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, as you have consistently misrepresented.
Seriously. Are you DRUNK?
Are you drunk? Seriously, anyone who trusts SOE, and plays this horrid game has problems. SOE has ripped off, scammed, and robbed from customers since they bought EQ. It continues to this day and idiots continue playing their games, WHY? Are you that dumb?
SOE is using an outside company to fascilitate sales of virtual goods, UNBELIEVABLE how low this company will stoop to steal peoples money.
It is not necessary for all these anti-SoE posts. Its totally irrelevant. Its an issue concerning a dispute over a ban, and that happened for every game, now and then. Fact is WoW banned more accounts than any other games, just b/c they have 10million to pick from.
To the OP: I cannot past any judgment, your story is all I read and that is not enough to warrant a conclusion. I do notice that you have rendered your position very vulnerable. Your behaviour makes you very case very suspicious.
You went afk in a zone where PVPers can attack you, You set your pet on guard mode. Do you seriously believe that a normal pet will keep you alive when you go afk in against a PVP attack? If not, why do it (you have to convince the GM not me). If you do so b/c you believe the pet can keep you alive, the GM have grounds to suspect you of exploiting a bug: your behaviour did lend weight to this theory.
No one knows if you intend to exploit the bug, but your act renders your position highly vulnerable to accusation. You have a lot of explanations to do, and given the "fact" that you keep doing PVP and go afk with a pet on guard mode, your chance to convince a GM will be weakened.
Good luck trying to get back your account.
Very interesting
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
yeah, what he said
So you knew your pet is bugged but didn't resummon it and then claim you're not exploiting? Right...
Hell If you wanted to just use one of the 3rd party cheats as I've never seen them detected even though you can teleport all over the maps and run fast anywhere. Or just leave the bots on all day and don't play the game - then realise your paying not for fun but for stats.
Why do people cheat on these games as you don't gain anything apart from a bigger epeen to other saddos.
1) I went afk to get a drink as many players do all day long so it was only moments and the zone/chunk was empty when I did this and was back in time. At that point I never changed the pet settings and was not afk. I get the impression you didn't read very carefully.
2) I have no wish or desire to get the account back as I have now blocked SOE from ever being able to receive payment from my credit cards. I have no wish or desire to ever be a customer of SOE again.
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As I have clearly pointed out at the point I knew the pet was bugged I had no idea if resummoning the pet would fix the bug and was unsure what was even causing it. AFTERWARDS (after the ban) it became quite clear as my people did did SOE's job for them.
Some of you other people like the so called "Certified Language Arts Instructor" seem to have great difficulty comprehending the information presented. More schooling is your friend.
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yeah, what he said
Zorgo
, I have clearly shot your credibility to pieces and if any were paying attention to this I doubt they would ever care what you agree with and what you didn't. 
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This is absolutely absurd, and you are treading very close to conspiracy theory at this point. I am no fan of SOE as a company or a game developer. In fact, every SOE account I have ever had found it's way to the recycle bin in due time. One thing I can say in their defense however, is that the CS I received when I returned in December was far and away better than I had received in any SOE game in the past.As you already know, SOE will not discuss the status of other player's accounts or CS interactions with other players with anyone (including a spouse).
Players take note when someone is acting so childish in broad daylight. I know several players who still enjoy VG, and one of these players read your original post on the official forums.
So yet again, it was YOU who sank your own ship. Not someone who was out to get you for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, as you have consistently misrepresented.
Actually this is just you failing to answer a question while presenting a song and dance type argument. And while there may be some players still enjoying VG I personally know tons who left VG over the mere fact that SOE bought the game and many more to this point for various reasons.
The player base isn't increasing from release it's in a steady decline. I can bet when AoC and War Hammer online come soon will leave VG looking even more so like a ghost town like matrix online LMAO.
But I'm sure SOE has many step children/brother in laws who's greatest achievements are fetching coffee that need jobs and will accept one at $4.25 an hour.
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What really surprises me is the amount of people who did not bother to read through the information provided and just started flaming....well, for the hell of flaming. Actually, I take that back, it doesn't surprise me one bit.
People who sift through information without comprehensive capabilities really should not talk. Flaming is generally a way for -the little- man, to feel big.
I read through the post carefully and found that the information given was very compelling and certainly worth further investigation. It would not be the first time that a -power hungry/starved- GM has trolled around. Other games have had similar issues with inside trading/ebay selling. GM's, like the rest of us, are not above the lure of cheating and/or tunnel vision. They are human.
Although i will not speak against SOE as a company, I will say that there is little to be desired of their support and Dev teams. They often treat games as their own personal vengeance playground with lack professionalism in that area.
Next time, read the post carefully, and take your flames back to the sandbox in your local kindergarden.
Silly flamers, Forums are for adults.
Wow, you really think that I stopped posting because you 'shot my credibility'? ROFLMAO, well, you've have certainly provided me with entertainment. Your approach to 'proving' yourself is about as funny as Michael Scott from The Office when he thinks he is right, and is clearly wrong. Very funny stuff. Too bad you are the real thing, and that makes it a little sad.
I stopped responding because I felt that arguing with someone as self-deluded as you was futile.
I mean c'mon, I asked if you 'tested' the bug and you said you didn't, refuting it by a quote with you saying you tested the bug, then strutting like you'd made your case....there is no sense in me posting to prove you wrong, you are doing a great job yourself.
Don't expect anymore arguments from me, you are too far gone to be salvaged. Don't think you have won, my silence is only an indication of my pity.
And for someone who tried to zing me with 'who appointed you spokesman for everyone here' - you've done the exact same thing with the above quote. You have some support here from other blind SOE haters that didn't look at the details of what you wrote, yet, I feel DailyBuzz and the guy I quoted actually had intelligent, well thought out arguments that looked closer at what you are trying to pull. Just because 10,000 people may think you are right, it doesn't make it so, with that rationale, Hitler was a great leader to the German's in the beginning. I don't believe in truth by democracy. I just believe in truth and logic, of which I find you have no grasp.
But if it really makes you feel superior, to think you've gotten the better of me, go ahead, I don't need your approval for me to know you exploited the bug, whether you 'think' you didn't doesn't matter, using the facts you provided, you did. I'm not taking SOE's side, I don't have their side. I have your version of events, which would lead me to ban you as well.
It doesn't surprise me that you think you've 'clearly shot my credibility' - because you still think you didn't exploit the bug. The real kicker is that I think if you had been a rational and polite person, you may have gotten away with it without a ban, but I would guess your lack of rationality and insufferable attitude is what really landed you on the street. Even if you were twice as polite to the GM's as you have been to me, you are one of the most exasperating individuals I've ever seen post.
You may just find that you get banned less often, if you would turn to a little self-examination of the way you choose to approach arguments and people, it is just plain destructive. And if you think it isn't, guess who still gets to play VG and guess who gets to come here and cry about getting banned.
But if it really makes you feel superior, to think you've gotten the better of me, go ahead, I don't need your approval for me to know you exploited the bug, whether you 'think' you didn't doesn't matter, using the facts you provided, you did. I'm not taking SOE's side, I don't have their side. I have your version of events, which would lead me to ban you as well.
Did the spouse make an appearance?
Well, this thread has become nothing more than pure semantics at this point. The following statement is really all that need be read:
You tried unsuccessfully in your OP to convince me and others that you were wrongly banned. I saw no evidence that would support your assertions, so I gave you my take on it. You wanted specifics and a "break down" of your OP, so I did that.
Originally posted by Warsong
After reading this reply I was left wishing that this person had took all the information I have shown and tried to break it all down and explain it all away as "oh this just looks like this guy just wanted to get away with using an exploit and when he got caught he decides to make it appear as he did nothing wrong"I really like the statement you used there. It's important to note that was your statement, not mine. My reply to you contained the reasons I doubted your story, and I later went into deeper detail.
When confronted with your bragging about the coin and infamy you took off the GM after killing him, you said:
Originally posted by Warsong
True story, I was up to 15p
..........then he asked for it back. 
And the infamy???lawl he had 7 infamy and even if VG infamy was worth anything 7 wouldn't buy a stick of gum so not sure why that was mentioned. lol
My next interaction with you you directly contradicts what you had stated in an earlier post:
Originally posted by Warsong
Never once did I intentionally use a bug
In the next post directed at me you wrote:
Originally posted by Warsong
I have 0 expectations and 0 confidence that SOE will do the right thing but I'm quit confident that if an investigation "were" made by a competent party that disciplinary action would and should be taken at some level concerning the erring and incompetent CR rep/reps involved.
And this is why I say you will not have the ban lifted or get a CS rep fired. They already did an investigation. They have ALL the information, not just what you wish to divulge on these forums.
You then sifted back through the thread to try and find some way to discredit me. Apparantly, all you could come up with is an insinuation that I am working in conjunction with SOE (which most of this forums regulars would laugh wildly at btw) to help cover up their blatant abuse of power.
Originally posted by Warsong
You were told by who? VG staff member perhaps?
I do not believe you. I believe you less the more you post. I am done with this thread.
EDIT: minor technical difficulties in quoting so many different posts.
Did the spouse make an appearance?
Well, this thread has become nothing more than pure semantics at this point. The following statement is really all that need be read:
You tried unsuccessfully in your OP to convince me and others that you were wrongly banned. I saw no evidence that would support your assertions, so I gave you my take on it. You wanted specifics and a "break down" of your OP, so I did that.
Originally posted by Warsong
After reading this reply I was left wishing that this person had took all the information I have shown and tried to break it all down and explain it all away as "oh this just looks like this guy just wanted to get away with using an exploit and when he got caught he decides to make it appear as he did nothing wrong"I really like the statement you used there. It's important to note that was your statement, not mine. My reply to you contained the reasons I doubted your story, and I later went into deeper detail.
When confronted with your bragging about the coin and infamy you took off the GM after killing him, you said:
Originally posted by Warsong
True story, I was up to 15p
..........then he asked for it back. 
And the infamy???lawl he had 7 infamy and even if VG infamy was worth anything 7 wouldn't buy a stick of gum so not sure why that was mentioned. lol
My next interaction with you you directly contradicts what you had stated in an earlier post:
Originally posted by Warsong
Never once did I intentionally use a bug
In the next post directed at me you wrote:
Originally posted by Warsong
I have 0 expectations and 0 confidence that SOE will do the right thing but I'm quit confident that if an investigation "were" made by a competent party that disciplinary action would and should be taken at some level concerning the erring and incompetent CR rep/reps involved.
And this is why I say you will not have the ban lifted or get a CS rep fired. They already did an investigation. They have ALL the information, not just what you wish to divulge on these forums.
You then sifted back through the thread to try and find some way to discredit me. Apparantly, all you could come up with is an insinuation that I am working in conjunction with SOE (which most of this forums regulars would laugh wildly at btw) to help cover up their blatant abuse of power.
Originally posted by Warsong
You were told by who? VG staff member perhaps?
I do not believe you. I believe you less the more you post. I am done with this thread.
EDIT: minor technical difficulties in quoting so many different posts.
Why sure I could have not played the game while it took the staff 3-6 months to even realize another bug existed and then another 3-6 months waiting for them to fix the bug.
I'm sure it's a long and hard transition from making coffee runs to developing game fixes and managing a game.
Life is full of avenues. But the fact remains that the account was banned for using a pet macro bug (never happened), the real bug they didn't even acknowledge existence of until days later. The incompetence meter is off the scale!
Dim witted arguments laced with attempts at fancy flames to the contrary do nothing towards improving anything. They only serve to set a lower standard for customer service.
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