WoW is the best MMO out on the market right now and people just don't want to face the facts. They complain that it's too easy, cartoony, etc., but it still dominates every other MMO out there. The people you see bashing the game are people who either played the game and their Mommy and Daddy won't let them raid past 7pm or the people who think games like "Mapelstory, UO, Ragnarock, etc." are better than any other MMO out on the market. And then you have the SWG people who drop by and to WoW people how WoW and SOE ruined there game. WoW owns, people just can't face it.....they are still waiting for Darkfall.
Yes, it has become the "golden commercial standard" in terms of MMO gaming. However, I'm tired of hearing people who chose not to like it bash it in every third thread. 1. WoW PvP is as strategic as any other game on the market right now 2. WoW PvE is as complex and challenging, at the higher levels, as any other game on the market right now 3. There are KIDDIES in every game. There are plenty in WoW, sure, but there are also a lot of more mature players.
Just leave WoW alone. Some people hate it because it's "easy" ... sure it's easy to level to the cap. You can be L70 and suck ... but you know what? I've played forced grouping games w/ endless group grinds to end-game and found at max level there are still a plethora of terrible players. WoW graphics are cartoony, sure, but they are also very well themed. Everything fits. You're free to dislike it, but don't cite "cartoonish graphics" like it's bad. WoW's graphics beat the snot out of a lot of "realistic graphics" games because you end up looking like dolls rather than anything more interesting. Anyway - in conclusion - Love WoW or hate WoW, stop bashing it in every third post you make. Thanks!
I agree with most of what you are saying. However, when you try to control other people you usually just end up frustrated. So maybe save yourself some frustration and either not visit the forums, or tune it out.
1. WoW PvP is as strategic as any other game on the market right now 2. WoW PvE is as complex and challenging, at the higher levels, as any other game on the market right now 3. There are KIDDIES in every game. There are plenty in WoW, sure, but there are also a lot of more mature players. Anyway - in conclusion - Love WoW or hate WoW, stop bashing it in every third post you make. Thanks!
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Eve Online
Lol ?
Conclusion : you really expect people to stop bashing WoW because you ask them "please stop" ?
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1. WoW PvP is as strategic as any other game on the market right now 2. WoW PvE is as complex and challenging, at the higher levels, as any other game on the market right now 3. There are KIDDIES in every game. There are plenty in WoW, sure, but there are also a lot of more mature players.
1. WoW pvp is about gear, gear and a miniscule of skills. If I got better gear than you I will most likely bitchslap you all over the place, unless I suck horribly at pvp, even then I have a good chance at winning. That is why alot of people think WoW pvp suck. Almost no skill is needed, just good gear.
2. Nope. WoW endgame pve is all about scripted bosses. If you know the strategy you can kill those bosses in your sleep. And there are a zillion sites out there with strategy's for every boss ingame, even the lowbie bosses, believe it or not.
3. Yes there are, but they are more vocal and out there in WoW than in any other game. Its success is to blame for that. More people, more kiddies(that include the adult kiddes too btw), simple math really. Also the extreme easymode playstyle and cartoonish graphics somehow appeal to alot of people.
Conclusion: First, your points about WoW simply aint true, and sounds a little like fanboi praise to be perfectly honest, and its my right to bash or praise any game I damn well please, in any game related forum, aslong as I stick within the rules of said forum. Its not my right to tell people they cant write this and that on a forum though. Free speech, remember???
Yep, I used to play WoW, did all the endgame crap that game had to offer and found it lacking and utterly boring. I dont hate WoW though. I see it as an easymode-mmo for starters to get introduced to the whole mmo-genre, so when they finished with WoW they will move on to other games and help keep this genre alive for uhm..eons to come..or atleast a bloody long time
1. WoW pvp is about gear, gear and a miniscule of skills. If I got better gear than you I will most likely bitchslap you all over the place, unless I suck horribly at pvp, even then I have a good chance at winning. That is why alot of people think WoW pvp suck. Almost no skill is needed, just good gear. 2. Nope. WoW endgame pve is all about scripted bosses. If you know the strategy you can kill those bosses in your sleep. And there are a zillion sites out there with strategy's for every boss ingame, even the lowbie bosses, believe it or not. 3. Yes there are, but they are more vocal and out there in WoW than in any other game. Its success is to blame for that. More people, more kiddies(that include the adult kiddes too btw), simple math really. Also the extreme easymode playstyle and cartoonish graphics somehow appeal to alot of people. Conclusion: First, your points about WoW simply aint true, and sounds a little like fanboi praise to be perfectly honest, and its my right to bash or praise any game I damn well please, in any game related forum, aslong as I stick within the rules of said forum. Its not my right to tell people they cant write this and that on a forum though. Free speech, remember??? Yep, I used to play WoW, did all the endgame crap that game had to offer and found it lacking and utterly boring. I dont hate WoW though. I see it as an easymode-mmo for starters to get introduced to the whole mmo-genre, so when they finished with WoW they will move on to other games and help keep this genre alive for uhm..eons to come..or atleast a bloody long time
Conclusion: First, your points about WoW simply ain't true, and sounds a little like hater talk to be perfectly honest, and it's my right to bash or praise any forum post I damn well please, in any game related forum, as long as I stick within the rules of said forum. It's also my right to tell people they can't write this or that on the forums too. Free speech, remember????
Yes, it has become the "golden commercial standard" in terms of MMO gaming. However, I'm tired of hearing people who chose not to like it bash it in every third thread. 1. WoW PvP is as strategic as any other game on the market right now Umm...Have you ever played EVE online before? 2. WoW PvE is as complex and challenging, at the higher levels, as any other game on the market right now Once again play EVE and learn what challenging is. 3. There are KIDDIES in every game. There are plenty in WoW, sure, but there are also a lot of more mature players. Ok I do have to agree with you on this part a bit. All games have alot of kiddie's. WoW just seem's to have more then most. EVE online's avg age is 28. WoW, Although not stated as far as I know, avg age is probably around 18. Just leave WoW alone. Some people hate it because it's "easy" ... sure it's easy to level to the cap. You can be L70 and suck ... but you know what? I've played forced grouping games w/ endless group grinds to end-game and found at max level there are still a plethora of terrible players. WoW graphics are cartoony, sure, but they are also very well themed. Everything fits. You're free to dislike it, but don't cite "cartoonish graphics" like it's bad. WoW's graphics beat the snot out of a lot of "realistic graphics" games because you end up looking like dolls rather than anything more interesting. Well WoW's graphics WERE good but there's just alot better looking game's know such as Lotro, EVE Online, AoC, WAR, FFXI and many more. The time of WoW graphics is coming to an end. Anyway - in conclusion - Love WoW or hate WoW, stop bashing it in every third post you make.-agreed I hate wow but the posts about how people hate it are just getting as old and repetadive as the game it self. Thanks!-Your welcome
Originally posted by Pappy13 Conclusion: First, your points about WoW simply ain't true, and sounds a little like hater talk to be perfectly honest, and it's my right to bash or praise any forum post I damn well please, in any game related forum, as long as I stick within the rules of said forum. It's also my right to tell people they can't write this or that on the forums too. Free speech, remember????
You sound like a broken mp3 on repeat. So WoW aint easy?? Even D&DO is harder, cmon. If you think I hate WoW, read the entire post before commenting. And nope, you break the very essence of free speech when you try to limit it. You can tell people you dont agree with stuff, but you can never tell them they cant write it. That is just bollocks.
Originally posted by _Jord_ Anyway - in conclusion - Love WoW or hate WoW, stop bashing it in every third post you make. Thanks!
Javold Herr Jord!
What else offends you that should we stop criticizing?
Posted by Unherdninja:
Anyway - in conclusion - Love WoW or hate WoW, stop bashing it in every third post you make.-agreed I hate wow but the posts about how people hate it are just getting as old and repetadive as the game it self.
I'll bash whatever the hell I want... I'm a consumer, it's my right. And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against WoW. I just don't like people telling me I can't bash it...lol
Funny how many ppl actually think that line means anything.
More likely than anything you're a difficult customer and that makes me hate you. I try to remain polite but my first objective is to get rid of you by any means, and as fast as i can.
Next in line of my difficult customers is the kind that think they know something... "Oh i worked someplace before so you've got to do things that way..."
My boss gets to do stuff to setle disputes i can't do, like giving stuff for free. It gets complicated sometimes but most of the time the customer is just retarded and doesnt get the whole picture, and/or can't read.
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Yeah I am with the Original poster, harsh reality that blizzard makes the best games. Wow is great because it was created by a company called blizzard.
I will tell you what come back here in one year and tell me what the number one mmo is, is it AOC (Age of Crotchrot), AION, Warhammster online, umm Everpoop 2, Vancrap Saga of Hotdogs, umm Dark age of Crapalot, Lineage 2 (I'm a crazy Korean grinder kid RAAARGH GAME!), umm EVE online (otherwise known as snoozefest online, or "lets mine rocks for 5 houra yey!!!! excitement!). I will bet you my two testies its WOW at the top in one yr.
When will some of you learn that numbers dont always mean best. I saw someone a while back use the mcdonalds analogy and it really fits lol. Just because millions are served, doesnt mean its the best hamburger. Just because WoW has millions of subscribers doesnt mean its the best. Just because Blizzard made it doesnt mean its best. The most popular? Yea. Best? Matter of opinion.
Frankly I dont want to see any other games get as large as WoW. WIth large groups comes the WoW community which is the biggest sesspool of idiots in the world. Sure there are some nice people that play, but for ever 1 nice person you find you will run into 10 others that are complete idiots.
Uh huh, go play the wonderful craptastic games other than WOW thank you. Umm of course City of Heroes/Villians is the exception since I play that alongside WOW and well they both rock. Oh and I am not a kid, an adult who enjoys logging into a fake world to escape the real world, does'nt help escaping the real world when the fake world looks too real, reason why WOW does so well. Also the reason why blizzard is a very smart company.
Face the reality.
Over and out, again come back in one yr and let me know the number one game okay yeah I will bet my rectum its WOW.
I hope it is unless I will not have testies or a rectum. Damn life will suck ha.
The funny think about your "stop bashing wow" thread is the fact you basically agreed to all of the criticisms about the game. You bashed it under the pretense of defending it....
Yes, it has become the "golden commercial standard" in terms of MMO gaming. However, I'm tired of hearing people who chose not to like it bash it in every third thread. 1. WoW PvP is as strategic as any other game on the market right now 2. WoW PvE is as complex and challenging, at the higher levels, as any other game on the market right now 3. There are KIDDIES in every game. There are plenty in WoW, sure, but there are also a lot of more mature players.
Just leave WoW alone. Some people hate it because it's "easy" ... sure it's easy to level to the cap. You can be L70 and suck ... but you know what? I've played forced grouping games w/ endless group grinds to end-game and found at max level there are still a plethora of terrible players. WoW graphics are cartoony, sure, but they are also very well themed. Everything fits. You're free to dislike it, but don't cite "cartoonish graphics" like it's bad. WoW's graphics beat the snot out of a lot of "realistic graphics" games because you end up looking like dolls rather than anything more interesting. Anyway - in conclusion - Love WoW or hate WoW, stop bashing it in every third post you make. Thanks!
Crocker is that you? Brit wasn't enough, but now onto MMo's?
1. WoW PvP is as strategic as any other game on the market right now 2. WoW PvE is as complex and challenging, at the higher levels, as any other game on the market right now 3. There are KIDDIES in every game. There are plenty in WoW, sure, but there are also a lot of more mature players.
1. WoW pvp is about gear, gear and a miniscule of skills. If I got better gear than you I will most likely bitchslap you all over the place, unless I suck horribly at pvp, even then I have a good chance at winning. That is why alot of people think WoW pvp suck. Almost no skill is needed, just good gear.
2. Nope. WoW endgame pve is all about scripted bosses. If you know the strategy you can kill those bosses in your sleep. And there are a zillion sites out there with strategy's for every boss ingame, even the lowbie bosses, believe it or not.
3. Yes there are, but they are more vocal and out there in WoW than in any other game. Its success is to blame for that. More people, more kiddies(that include the adult kiddes too btw), simple math really. Also the extreme easymode playstyle and cartoonish graphics somehow appeal to alot of people.
Conclusion: First, your points about WoW simply aint true, and sounds a little like fanboi praise to be perfectly honest, and its my right to bash or praise any game I damn well please, in any game related forum, aslong as I stick within the rules of said forum. Its not my right to tell people they cant write this and that on a forum though. Free speech, remember???
Yep, I used to play WoW, did all the endgame crap that game had to offer and found it lacking and utterly boring. I dont hate WoW though. I see it as an easymode-mmo for starters to get introduced to the whole mmo-genre, so when they finished with WoW they will move on to other games and help keep this genre alive for uhm..eons to come..or atleast a bloody long time
For each of your points 1 to 3 can you please let us know what game does it differently?
How you failed to give examples of other games when making your points amazes me!!!
You are the typical example of a hypocrite, who played WoW all the way to the end and then say you hate it.
Majority of WoW bashers are like you. Played the game to the end, some with several lvl 70 xters and then get bored look for a new game and can't find anything to match WoW, and then turn around an d bash WoW lol!
STATE the game that you play now that is so much better than WoW else shut up and leave this area of the forum.
PS: Of course you can bash WOW, stating freedom of speach etc, but that doesnt make it right! More so after playing it to the end lol
When will some of you learn that numbers dont always mean best. I saw someone a while back use the mcdonalds analogy and it really fits lol. Just because millions are served, doesnt mean its the best hamburger. Just because WoW has millions of subscribers doesnt mean its the best. Just because Blizzard made it doesnt mean its best. The most popular? Yea. Best? Matter of opinion.
Frankly I dont want to see any other games get as large as WoW. WIth large groups comes the WoW community which is the biggest sesspool of idiots in the world. Sure there are some nice people that play, but for ever 1 nice person you find you will run into 10 others that are complete idiots.
Another one,
Since numbers don't make WoW the best, tell us what is better than WoW and why else you are just rambling.
A lot of people say WoW is easy, Wow sucks, wow is this and WoW is that, a baby can say that, you need to say why it is so else you appear to be a troll.
What make it worse is that these people have played the game to the end and then come and bash it, if you truly didnt like it then surely you would have stopped before the end ?
I have played variuos MMOs, VG, D&D, EQ2 for example and to me they are more or less the same, WoW is more polished and has more people running around and i beleive that this is what makes it successful.
So in future bash Wow all you like but please for your sake quailfy your bashing else consider yourselve a troll!
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WoW is the best MMO out on the market right now and people just don't want to face the facts. They complain that it's too easy, cartoony, etc., but it still dominates every other MMO out there. The people you see bashing the game are people who either played the game and their Mommy and Daddy won't let them raid past 7pm or the people who think games like "Mapelstory, UO, Ragnarock, etc." are better than any other MMO out on the market. And then you have the SWG people who drop by and
to WoW people how WoW and SOE ruined there game. WoW owns, people just can't face it.....they are still waiting for Darkfall.
Let's see, I play the game and so do you. That means that one of us.....I hope it's not me!!! LOL
Hope you have a nice day
Conclusion : you really expect people to stop bashing WoW because you ask them "please stop" ?
Its so irrelevant everywhere! ;D play what you like and dont care if anyone bash it, its YOURS fun.
Just so I wouldn't bash WoW anymore, I bought the Battlechest and subscribed. My Draenei is better than your Draenei.
"I'm here to either bash WOW or chew bubble gum. And I'm all outta bubblegum." (sorry Roddy)
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"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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1. WoW pvp is about gear, gear and a miniscule of skills. If I got better gear than you I will most likely bitchslap you all over the place, unless I suck horribly at pvp, even then I have a good chance at winning. That is why alot of people think WoW pvp suck. Almost no skill is needed, just good gear.
2. Nope. WoW endgame pve is all about scripted bosses. If you know the strategy you can kill those bosses in your sleep. And there are a zillion sites out there with strategy's for every boss ingame, even the lowbie bosses, believe it or not.
3. Yes there are, but they are more vocal and out there in WoW than in any other game. Its success is to blame for that. More people, more kiddies(that include the adult kiddes too btw), simple math really. Also the extreme easymode playstyle and cartoonish graphics somehow appeal to alot of people.
Conclusion: First, your points about WoW simply aint true, and sounds a little like fanboi praise to be perfectly honest, and its my right to bash or praise any game I damn well please, in any game related forum, aslong as I stick within the rules of said forum. Its not my right to tell people they cant write this and that on a forum though. Free speech, remember???
Yep, I used to play WoW, did all the endgame crap that game had to offer and found it lacking and utterly boring. I dont hate WoW though. I see it as an easymode-mmo for starters to get introduced to the whole mmo-genre, so when they finished with WoW they will move on to other games and help keep this genre alive for uhm..eons to come..or atleast a bloody long time
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
WoW fucking blows my left nutsack, worst game i've ever played srsly.
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EAT ME MMORPG.com!
You sound like a broken mp3 on repeat. So WoW aint easy?? Even D&DO is harder, cmon. If you think I hate WoW, read the entire post before commenting. And nope, you break the very essence of free speech when you try to limit it. You can tell people you dont agree with stuff, but you can never tell them they cant write it. That is just bollocks.
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
Javold Herr Jord!
What else offends you that should we stop criticizing?
Posted by Unherdninja:
Anyway - in conclusion - Love WoW or hate WoW, stop bashing it in every third post you make.-agreed I hate wow but the posts about how people hate it are just getting as old and repetadive as the game it self.
In other words...stop expressing your opinion.
Anheuser
More likely than anything you're a difficult customer and that makes me hate you. I try to remain polite but my first objective is to get rid of you by any means, and as fast as i can.
Next in line of my difficult customers is the kind that think they know something... "Oh i worked someplace before so you've got to do things that way..."
My boss gets to do stuff to setle disputes i can't do, like giving stuff for free. It gets complicated sometimes but most of the time the customer is just retarded and doesnt get the whole picture, and/or can't read.
-Would you like cheddar or swiss cheese?
-Yes.
-...
Yeah I am with the Original poster, harsh reality that blizzard makes the best games. Wow is great because it was created by a company called blizzard.
I will tell you what come back here in one year and tell me what the number one mmo is, is it AOC (Age of Crotchrot), AION, Warhammster online, umm Everpoop 2, Vancrap Saga of Hotdogs, umm Dark age of Crapalot, Lineage 2 (I'm a crazy Korean grinder kid RAAARGH GAME!), umm EVE online (otherwise known as snoozefest online, or "lets mine rocks for 5 houra yey!!!! excitement!). I will bet you my two testies its WOW at the top in one yr.
When will some of you learn that numbers dont always mean best. I saw someone a while back use the mcdonalds analogy and it really fits lol. Just because millions are served, doesnt mean its the best hamburger. Just because WoW has millions of subscribers doesnt mean its the best. Just because Blizzard made it doesnt mean its best. The most popular? Yea. Best? Matter of opinion.
Frankly I dont want to see any other games get as large as WoW. WIth large groups comes the WoW community which is the biggest sesspool of idiots in the world. Sure there are some nice people that play, but for ever 1 nice person you find you will run into 10 others that are complete idiots.
Uh huh, go play the wonderful craptastic games other than WOW thank you. Umm of course City of Heroes/Villians is the exception since I play that alongside WOW and well they both rock. Oh and I am not a kid, an adult who enjoys logging into a fake world to escape the real world, does'nt help escaping the real world when the fake world looks too real, reason why WOW does so well. Also the reason why blizzard is a very smart company.
Face the reality.
Over and out, again come back in one yr and let me know the number one game okay yeah I will bet my rectum its WOW.
I hope it is unless I will not have testies or a rectum. Damn life will suck ha.
Thanks
Yeah!
I don't understand why anyone should stop bashing WoW just because you say so.
btw, I just realized there actually is a smiley called Wow on these forums.
This one is called Bug Eyes :
This one is called Wow :
I'm sorry but
has got to go.
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Waiting for: GW2
*thumbs up*: GW, Eve(, WoW)
*thumbs down*: MO, GA, FE
The funny think about your "stop bashing wow" thread is the fact you basically agreed to all of the criticisms about the game. You bashed it under the pretense of defending it....
One yr, and let me know lets see its MArch 13 2008, I will come back to this thread on March 13 2009, you tell me whats on top
Don't say I did'nt warn you.
Have a good time there!
Crocker is that you? Brit wasn't enough, but now onto MMo's?
1. WoW pvp is about gear, gear and a miniscule of skills. If I got better gear than you I will most likely bitchslap you all over the place, unless I suck horribly at pvp, even then I have a good chance at winning. That is why alot of people think WoW pvp suck. Almost no skill is needed, just good gear.
2. Nope. WoW endgame pve is all about scripted bosses. If you know the strategy you can kill those bosses in your sleep. And there are a zillion sites out there with strategy's for every boss ingame, even the lowbie bosses, believe it or not.
3. Yes there are, but they are more vocal and out there in WoW than in any other game. Its success is to blame for that. More people, more kiddies(that include the adult kiddes too btw), simple math really. Also the extreme easymode playstyle and cartoonish graphics somehow appeal to alot of people.
Conclusion: First, your points about WoW simply aint true, and sounds a little like fanboi praise to be perfectly honest, and its my right to bash or praise any game I damn well please, in any game related forum, aslong as I stick within the rules of said forum. Its not my right to tell people they cant write this and that on a forum though. Free speech, remember???
Yep, I used to play WoW, did all the endgame crap that game had to offer and found it lacking and utterly boring. I dont hate WoW though. I see it as an easymode-mmo for starters to get introduced to the whole mmo-genre, so when they finished with WoW they will move on to other games and help keep this genre alive for uhm..eons to come..or atleast a bloody long time
For each of your points 1 to 3 can you please let us know what game does it differently?
How you failed to give examples of other games when making your points amazes me!!!
You are the typical example of a hypocrite, who played WoW all the way to the end and then say you hate it.
Majority of WoW bashers are like you. Played the game to the end, some with several lvl 70 xters and then get bored look for a new game and can't find anything to match WoW, and then turn around an d bash WoW lol!
STATE the game that you play now that is so much better than WoW else shut up and leave this area of the forum.
PS: Of course you can bash WOW, stating freedom of speach etc, but that doesnt make it right! More so after playing it to the end lol
Another one,
Since numbers don't make WoW the best, tell us what is better than WoW and why else you are just rambling.
A lot of people say WoW is easy, Wow sucks, wow is this and WoW is that, a baby can say that, you need to say why it is so else you appear to be a troll.
What make it worse is that these people have played the game to the end and then come and bash it, if you truly didnt like it then surely you would have stopped before the end ?
I have played variuos MMOs, VG, D&D, EQ2 for example and to me they are more or less the same, WoW is more polished and has more people running around and i beleive that this is what makes it successful.
So in future bash Wow all you like but please for your sake quailfy your bashing else consider yourselve a troll!