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APB for 360 & PC?
Fadedbomb
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Well they have it plastered everywhere that it's going to obviously be for 360. However, the larger question is will this MMO release for PC as well and NOT as an infamous xbox360 "port"?
MMO's have been the staple gameplay base for PC gaming, and have been known to not do well whatsoever when made exclusively for a console. Granted games that release after their PC counterparts on the xbox/playstation did "ok". However, don't forget, for example, than FF11's release to consoles allowed you to play on their parent PC populated servers. I'm pretty sure we all know what happened to the EQ exclusive version to consoles that did not have any kind of PC connection 
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The reason I ask if it will release for PC also, is the fact that I keep seeing youtube videos, note I said youtube, saying it's for xbox360/PC. I'm sure we also all know the reputability of anything on youtube.
So I ask you the player base, xbox360 exclusive? Or, will this game also have a PC release before/at the same time/after xbox360 launch? 
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Might I ask what APB is an abbreviation of?
Just wondering what game you are referring too?
Thanks!
I'm pretty sure hes talking about AoC. just could be a common typo lol
No, I believe it's All Points Bulletin (http://www.apb.com/) which I just found out about today as well.
I think it's a really great concept, and I hope it's built for the PC too.
Ah that certainly clears things...the game sounds pretty interesting!
Well according to play.tm:
"GTA "creator" Dave Jones has been showing off the latest title from Realtime Worlds at the Game Developers Conference, updating attendees on the progress of All Points Bulletin, a new title in the works for the PC and Xbox 360."
http://www.apb.com
under info:
APB is also intended to be a global product that will release in Asia, North America and Europe on the PC and next-generation consoles.
http://www.realtimeworlds.com/
their jobs listings only mention developing for 360 or PC though
I’m actually excited for APB, I just found out about it today on IGN, watched some video at gamevideo.com. But the one thing I really like about this game, is the fact it is a MMO for the 360!
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I’m disappointed that mmorpg did not have anything about this game sooner.
APB used to be on the Games List like 4 years ago. Guess they took it off.
I am not really excited about Cross-Platforming mmos. It diverts development away from advancing the game, and puts it into working on a platform and fitting the game into the platform parameters. With Platforms you also have limited specs and expansion.
Sorry, it was posted before I became a member.
thank you
I actually am excited about cross-platform gaming. The potential to play with so many more people is awesome.
I'm not responding to you specifically here Cleff, but your post caught my eye the most. Really... I have to ask... are you anti 360 console guys kidding me?
You would judge a game by what platform it is on, rather then the quality of the game itself?
Being on at least 2 platforms can only help a modern AAA MMORPG and encourage investment in the genre (especially when they are as similar as the PC and 360). I think it is safe to say that higher revenue= more development, not less (unless you are Blizzard that is...)
The 360 is hosting some of the best existing, and most interesting upcoming RPGs out there right now, so whats to think this cannot be carried across to MMORPGs? It has just been up to this point that the console market wasnt ready for the MMORPG, but WoW has changed this. This genre is now mainstream, and has the potentiol to be truly huge once it fully takes hold. Console MMORPGs with micropaid downloadable content is very much the future of this genre I think.
MS Live is ready and waiting, and the 360 itself is 100% capable, especially with a larger HD, which is a simple upgrade after all, of what most PCs out there can do. A 360, for instance, would run WAR through LIVE with it's eyes shut. Lets be honest, the most popular games out there are the ones that run on old machines, so that housewives and kids can play them, so to say they couldnt be run on a modern console is a little naive.
The first true MMORPG to break this market open will make millions, whether that will be APB or AoC or some other game I don't know. APB certainly has the potentiol to feed off the GTA fanbase, giving it a massive headstart.
Personally, I am loving the look of the game and this site needs to get it's head out of the PC and open it's coverage to all platforms if it is looking at long term growth.
Excellent post ^
It's just a pity that the "WoW coming to 360" rumour proved to be false. I'd get it alright!
It limits the lifespan of the game to a console released Q4 2005. In 3 years the game will have to adhere to the 360, in 10 years it still has to work on the 360. This applies to any sort of cross-platformed game. It will have to adhere to the consoles specs down the line. This means if they wanna make a graphical update in 5 years. They cannot exced the specs on the 360, and in 5 years we could see computers with 10+ times the power of the 360. Either that or dual develop the client which is just costly.
With a PC Only game, when you release an expansion you can raise the specs. Then use a LOD iteration on the unexpanded users.
Cleff, you do know that the 360 is backward compatable right? No reason the '720' (or whatever) wouldnt be as well... In other words, your MMORPG would just be carried on and played on the next generation console, if you wanted to.
The 360 is basically a PC optimised for gaming, so it seems logical to me. The only consideration that has kept MMORPGs on the PC, more or less, so far is a player culture thing.
Like I say, thats changed since WoW.
Who said they can't do graphic updates and they have to keep up with the 360? In a couple years if they want to do a graphical update they can branch the games off and do a graphical update on the PC. Nothing is stopping an update in graphics. Plus what MMO really does graphic updates, WOW still has the same graphics, so do most older MMO's. I mean AO is doing a graphics update after what 6 years? The only thing I see is that they'll probably make more content for the PC since most PC's have larger than 80 gig hard drives and a console hard drive would tend to get filled quicker especially since a lot of games are adding more content like Rock Band, Guitar hero, Mass Effect and Halo.
Firstly, graphics updates don't just randomly happen. They usually only occur after a game has been released.
Secondly, as mentioned before, if people can continue upgrading their PCs (which costs money), why can't they buy a newer Xbox?
not to mention that games dont undergo graphics changes until years after they release.
Eve just released a graphics update this year, and its been out for a very long time. Graphics updates are not that typical until the game has been out for some time.
and like someone else pointed out, new consoles come out what.. every 3-5 years? Each one is incredibly more advanced then its predecessor. Not to mention, cost about the same if not cheaper then the newest top line graphics boards.
furthermore, its always funny to see people shoot down consoles by making statements like "a PC can be patched and expansions can be downloaded". As if to say that console games are incapable of being patched or games expanded. By making statements like this, you're pretty much admitting that you dont know a thing about video game consoles.
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What if a person doesn't buy the next iteration or older games aren't compatible with the backward compatible system(it happens a couple times)? This is something the developer has to keep in mind when doing any sort of expansioning. With a console you can't exactly rip out the ram and put in more.
You do realise that what you're saying is illogical, right?
Say a game comes out now for the PC and 360. In four years time the devs decide it needs a graphics update, so they release one. By that time, my computer is obsolete, and as such I need to spend money buying new parts in order for it to run the new engine. My Xbox can't run it either, but by that time a newer model Xbox is out. So I buy that in order to play the latest version of the game.
Now what is the difference between those two? Either way I'm going to spend money in order to play the latest version of the game. Chances are I'd probably spend more on a PC upgrade than buying the newer Xbox...
I agree and disagree with you. I agree that pc's become obsolete and a new Xbox will come out but I disagree that developers will make that big of a graphics update to a game and make everyone thats playing that game buy another computer if they can't play it on theirs.
Look at Eve, their graphics update can be played on the same computers, and Funcom said that they're going to try and make it so players can still play the new graphics update to AO. If they make a new game like Lineage and Lineage 2 thats one thing but to make a graphics update thats that huge of a difference and make everyone who has an older computer update their computer is suicide. Think of it if they make a big change and say 40% of the people have to get a new computer to play a game their already paying for (Only the first episode of AO is free), I'd say they would loose about 80% of the 40% and I think thats being generous. Now if they make an AO 2 and the keep the old one running like Lineage and Lineage 2 or EQ and EQ2, then I can see no problems.
With Funcom and AO I think some people will have to update their computers but I think they're going to try and make it as minimal as they can, so maybe 5% of the people will have to upgrade or buy a new computer, which won't hurt their bottom line.
Plus Most gamers buy a new computer every 2-4 years anyway. A lot of Xbox players will buy a new Xbox every time a new one comes out so it kind of evens itself out anyway.
I agree and disagree with you. I agree that pc's become obsolete and a new Xbox will come out but I disagree that developers will make that big of a graphics update to a game and make everyone thats playing that game buy another computer if they can't play it on theirs.
Look at Eve, their graphics update can be played on the same computers, and Funcom said that they're going to try and make it so players can still play the new graphics update to AO. If they make a new game like Lineage and Lineage 2 thats one thing but to make a graphics update thats that huge of a difference and make everyone who has an older computer update their computer is suicide. Think of it if they make a big change and say 40% of the people have to get a new computer to play a game their already paying for (Only the first episode of AO is free), I'd say they would loose about 80% of the 40% and I think thats being generous. Now if they make an AO 2 and the keep the old one running like Lineage and Lineage 2 or EQ and EQ2, then I can see no problems.
With Funcom and AO I think some people will have to update their computers but I think they're going to try and make it as minimal as they can, so maybe 5% of the people will have to upgrade or buy a new computer, which won't hurt their bottom line.
Plus Most gamers buy a new computer every 2-4 years anyway. A lot of Xbox players will buy a new Xbox every time a new one comes out so it kind of evens itself out anyway.
I completely agree, I was just using that as an example. The OP said that when they release a new update, the console won't be able to run it, but those who play on the PC can just do q quick upgrade. I highly doubt they would release an update that wouldn't work fine on both systems, but if they were too, both console and PC owners would be in the same predicament.
Its more acceptable to bring a PC game beyond its original system specs, its not really acceptable to do the same with consoles. Even with a duster system like the PS, you expect to play it on the PS if you pop it in 10 years later. However, time has shown PC Games don't have to follow this rule.
Might I ask exactly how your research got you to the conclusion that in general people find it acceptable to upgrade their PC but not their console?
Got a Mac? Well not many computer owners use a mac, and the main reason why is that everytime you have to upgrade you just toss out your olde machine. Also Computers are a tool used for more then just gaming so upgrading it to keep it up to date is not considered as big a frivolous expense. Ontop of it the PC Community has already shown they will upgrade to continue playing a game with steeper requirements. For Example.
Everquest Original system requirements
Can people still play EQ with this computer with no additional expansions? Not really, but considering EQs numbers over-time they are OK with the minimum increasing.
However, there are people who rarely upgrade thier computer, and they usually play consoles. Do you really think this type of person will upgrade to a new console when its readily available to continue playing a game?
I most certainly do think that they will upgrade.
Consoles are not only used to play games in this day and age. Many people use them as media centres for example. Upgrading to a new console is not only an upgrade in the gaming department as a result.
Furthermore, when it costs less to upgrade the console than the PC, I can see people opting for that. I for one don't see the point in upgrading my computer when I can get a new console for less and have the insurance that for a few more years I won't have to upgrade again.