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Corruption at eq2, don't waste time on that game.
Judged1
Member Posts: 5
in Everquest II
Imagine you work hours and hours for you character and guild to become the top guild of an MMORPG, only to realize that some Developers are leaking complete strat to certain guild. It ruins the fun and competitive spirit for everyone. May this be a warning to other Devs on other MMORPG, never do that crap to your game, cause it ruins any fun and immersion to the game,
Here is a link to a post that reveal eq2 Dev cheating and leaking strategies to the top guild in eq2.
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I might of cared what you posted had you had some kind of veteranacy(new word) but the fact that this is your 2nd post your just here to flame at your fustrations. Developers leak stuff because to be honest you think someone is really finding out everything that is posted on eq2.wikia.com on there own? How do you think the blood code was founded on Mortal Kombat for the sega genesis it was LEAKed come on man. If your ranking your guild to be the best no amount of Dev help will make another guild surpass your own. You will still be the best guild.
Isn't this MMORPG.com, where people post their information about MMORPG.
I only offer information to people making a decision on what game they would play.
And I offer up solid evidents to back up my claim.
But nice distraction tactic.
"If your ranking your guild to be the best no amount of Dev help will make another guild surpass your own. You will still be the best guild."
Also judging from your guild tag, it is obviously that you don't even know crap about raiding.
Well you only pass information people already know. So trying to bash EQ2 because your done with it won't solve anything. Just because you want to quit you beleive you will have some cult of followers who do the same thing you do. NO you wont and like i said since you have like next to none posts people will just beleive your here to bash and flame.
Actually, you are wrong, I am still playing eq2 until warhammer is out.
And I doubt many people know of the extend of the Dev's corruption and
how terrible the end game contents are currently in eq2.
in spite of that EQ2 is still one of the BEST games out atm. Eve had its share of dev debauchery as well and that game is still going very strong. Your gaming experience is what you make it, so you don't like it, leave. There are countless others who are enjoying said games, and until you pay their monthly subs....i don't think you or anyone else has the right to say what someone should/should not like/play.
Do what countless others do, cancel your account, move on, and let those who enjoy playing said games, enjoy them
sam thing happens in every mmo really,
Far lamer than anything you've accused the OP of doing.
I agree that in my experience eq2 is still better than a lot more other mmo,
as I tried several others for 6 months and can't really get into it.
I hope Warhammer will be the next MMO that will be entertaining for a while. I have heard mix review about it from personal friends in beta. And AoC seems interesting too.
happens in every MMO. man that's funny and utterly false. In WurmOnline everyone was playing like bless has a few dozen effects that it doesn't, and all along the developers were laughing their asses off for 2 years. took weeks of nagging the developer because someone researched some of the effects and thought there was a bug, since the false effects were so entwined in what the community thought was right.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Does it matter that they give information out to certain guilds? The only guild i think is not deserving of this is that NPU guild it seems like no one likes them so i figure theres a reason to it or just jealousy that they are pwnstars. Either way they pass the information so we as the players will find out about the game content. So unless your telling me the DEVS are giving these guilds quad XP and making sure everyone is 80 in a day i could care less.
As for Hexxeity thank you for letting me know that I am a Lamer and my bashing of the OP was a lame move on my part. You really helped me figure out that i should of embrassed his arguement for what it was worth and let me choose a path of relevance. Me saying he was flaming EQ2 when he still plays the game and telling me in the Post name i shouldnt waste my time with a game he still is currently playing really comforts me into know that he really wasnt flaming the game yeah thanks your counseling helped me get through the day!!!!
Yeap, it's sad each and everytime stories like these emerge, though it isn't exactly uncommon. However, that doesn't make it acceptable behaviour from the devs side, right? So I don't see the problem with being unhappy about it, and the "take it or leave it" attitude is kinda lame. It's like saying that it's totally fine that stuff like this happen, which of course it isn't!
Edit: I'm not an EQ2 player though, just saying.
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Agree entirely
And BTW, games are a pastime. In other words, to past the time away. A waste of time. They are not investments.
Wheres our Half-Lifes or our Company of Heroes or our Oblivions?
Instead we get a buggy pile of shit list and then WOW which is good but you can't play one game forever without getting tired of it.
Wheres our Half-Lifes or our Company of Heroes or our Oblivions?
Instead we get a buggy pile of shit list and then WOW which is good but you can't play one game forever without getting tired of it.
? on bases are you saying this game is a buggy pile of $hit? and also claiming WoW is a good game? Where is our half-lifes and company of heroes there in a DIFFERANT GENRE and our Oblivions are out and doing well on there own. You obviously have no clue what you posting about try again later.
Yeah, it's more unloading of buckshot in the feet by SOE. Between the Test Server fiasco in December (which I was in the middle of) and now this PR dark cloud, the EQ2 people in charge have had a rough winter.
Summary as I understand it: The EQ2Flames site has a lot of traffic from the serious raider EQ2 community (and the PvP community too) and they have been displeased with the latest Expansion almost from the day of release in November. It's an "open" site so people can and do say what's on their mind with many colors of language
and the frustration has been boiling to an "event" like this.
The final straw was some threatening comments and personal information about some of the developers - and SOE blacklisted the site. Kaboom - most of the posters go apespit against SOE, and unload the nuclear option - posting information about any and all of the developers they can, things like their e-mail, in-game characters, and juicy tidbits about their activities in guilds - including a damning piece of mail giving the detailed strategy to a target in the new expansion to one guild right around release time.
I respect LFG's creation and handling of the EQ2Flames site until now - but like Bugs Bunny trying to increase his Bounty, I wonder if it's gone too far? He may end up in the Internet equivalent of Alcatraz if not *very* careful in the next few days.
You'd think after the NGE and the Star Wars meltdown, SOE would have learned *something* about avoiding such mistakes - but I guess not.
Avatars are people too
So someone posted what they said was an email from a dev telling someone how to beat a boss in a raid? On a site that is dedicated to flaming EQ2, and at a time when a good chunk of the people that frequent that site are a little more pissed off then usual because SoE doesn't aprove of the site; all that after someone posted personall information about a developer?
I'm curious what about this email makes everyone believe that it's not fake, made up by a pissed of EQ2 player with more time then sence on his hands?
Also, just so I'm sure. Is it ok if I use primas strategy guide? Or is that cheating? What about a strategy guide published by the game developer?
It's just more crying about someone getting something faster then them.
It amazes me how much of this kind of bitching people do with this game. I read the pvp forums on the official site daily and it all sounds a lot like this. A bunch of brats crying that someone can get something faster then they can; so SoE changes it to make everyone happy and they just bitch somemore. You would think that all this complaining is such a negetive thing, but it's not. What a lot of people overlook is exactly the things a lot of people in EQ2 bitch about. It's a lot of dumb stuff, at least as far as pvp goes, but that's pretty much all it is. Dumb stuff.
SoE should be very pleased. The best you could hope for your community is that thy complain about rather trivial or selfish things. Cause it means you don't have a lot of big problems if the community is more concerned with the little crap.
I'd take leaked strategy PR over crappy content PR any day.
I think EQ2 offers the most bang for your buck.
Wish Darkfall would release.
alot of people bitch about alot of silly things. i agree. but with the OP's link not working, I see no facts or limit there of to showcase his cause. and even if there is some leaks, it always happens. its called strategy guides. though ill admit devs do give out key information. is enough to pitch a bitch over and want to quit a game??m no not really. thats not gonna effect my ability to play, compete or continue to sub. as long as the content is good, and whole. i can careless about stuff the demotes to nothing but bitching and whining. you dont like it cool, unsub, and move on, no one is keeping you here. but dont throw a link without any contextual back up to display your intent, facts to your arguement. but if your flustered enough to leave hey, its all good, do ya thing. me im going to continue to play and dualbox lol and have lots of fun. our guild is nearing lvl 76 already :P
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Yup thats it in a nutshell tbh i post over there its a good site and one that has in the past been pretty much supportive of EQ2 well untill the crappy RoK expansion came out then the tide started to turn a bit untill this happened yesterday.
SOE you have to love them you really do they just dont get how to treat people as customers and cutting off a fansite as big as EQ2 flames is without doubt the stupidest thing they could do,it really is a free for all now and i find it sad becuase if they keep on pi$$ing players off like this it can only turn people off in the long run..how they make these desicions the mind boggles.
Despite how poor RoK turned out to be (and IMO it really is poor,not a secret either,ive said from the off its not that good) it has brought a lot of new people to the game and huzzah for that but and you only have to look at the chat most are waiting for the expansion for that other game,AoC,WAR to come out and all of a sudden we're back to having ghost servers again not something i'm looking forward to.
EQ2 flames isnt everyones cup of tea thats for sure,the people on there call things as they see it (rightly or wrongly) and i suppose sooner or later it would end like this but to cut off comminaication with it is just being childish on SOE's part,they need to stop this urge to just having yes men and take valid critisism on the chin (in all thier games for that) not just go away and sulk.
WOW this genre sucks.Wheres our Half-Lifes or our Company of Heroes or our Oblivions?
Instead we get a buggy pile of shit list and then WOW which is good but you can't play one game forever without getting tired of it.
QFT
But that Everquest scandal is delightful.
Call me naive, but I genuinely did not know that top guilds were told how to defeat all the big bosses by company staff. I actually imagined that top guilds worked at figuring it out. Hah! The scales fall from my eyes.
wow - that thread will be remembered for a while - what a fight that is.
While i do not agree with the devs supporting some guilds with extra infos, to me as a Software Engineer i can also see the reasons why to do this in a testing scenario. Some standard testers that never raided hardcore will probably not be the best testers for the fight that is supposed to be the hardest raid encounter in an expansion. So they decided to use a hardcore guild, and supllied them with the infos that a testing team usually gets.
Could they have found a better way to do that i would say yes, there definitely was not that much info needed for a test of a zone if you use a guild for testing. also the reasons why this guild was chosen are not totally ok.
but i as a guild leader of a casual guild that also raids personally am not affected by this and noone that is not in one of the few top guilds that are fighting for worldwide firstkills of raidencounters. I personally prefer that raidencounters are tested and not bugged and don't mind who gets the first kill of a mob (what is that worth in a few months).
So yes they could have done better in this situation, but i am sure that other games are also using highend guilds for testing highend content and even if they get no strategy for that tests they still get a few extra tries at these encounters before they reach the live servers which also gets them an advantage.
In the end it leads to the question if the devs should play their own MMOS in highend guilds, some might say yes cause only then they can see what works good and what not in raids and can use that knowledge for better designs in future or bugfixes where needed, but others will say that they have insider knowledge and the guilds they play in will have an advantage.
For someone playing and raiding not to be first worldwide but to have fun in a working game i can only see more advantages of devs that play their game in all types of guilds (from casual to hardcore playstile) cause that will help them to see things that need balancing better.
But in that case there should be disclosure - ie an announcement that a certain guild is involved in testing. And there should be the opportunity for other guilds, non-testers, to win the award for first kill, or whatever it is, as well as the plaudits. The set-up described seems pretty disingenuous - give a guild the blueprint to defeat an encounter, then make announcements on a website about how excellent they are.
All that said, this does not really affect me either - I don't have the time to dedicate to one of these guilds.
Have you tried to read the post ? Did you recognize that it is information for testers ? Did you recognize that the zone isnt available and has to be loaded manually ? So SOE created a new raid zone and asked testers to test it. Whats wrong with that ?
The same post was posted on the official froums and the mod didnt delete it, he just locked it. It happens everyday. The crafter dev sends a mail to the test crafters, the raid dev sends a mail to raid testers, the quest dev sends a mail to quest testers.
Aint if funny how such trolls succeed ?
I was wondering about the same thing when I read this junk...to me it just looks like people are beta testing the future raid content. Whatever the case this drama is lame. Eq2flames is pretty much all about drama and people complaining. There is some decent information to find there...but I probably wouldn't go there at all if there was any other decent informational/community sites out there for the game.