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brostyn
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I recently resubscribed when I heard about the new expansion. Now I used to love DAoC. I was never a fan a PvP until I tried out DAoC. They really struck gold, imo. Then came out ToA. PvE fest. I cancelled, because EQ is king at PvE. Then Mythic comes out with a RvR expansion, and I think to myself "oh goody they are getting back to what made them popular". Oh boy, was I ever wrong. Tanks are now as boring as clerics to play. Forgot the thrill of combat, your palms sweating as you near the enemy. Too excited to take a sip of your pepsi lest you die by a sneak. Its now a snooze fest. Tanks can either click a button and fire siege at a wall, or sit and wait for 1-3 hours for the 5 minutes of action.
Want to level another toon? Good luck finding anyone to group with. Pet classes have been nerfed, because the aggro is transferred to the pet owner, and very poor pathing has always been in. Ever see a cloth wearer tank? Me neither, because being 4 shooted isn't tanking. I could have handled the nerf to tanks, but when no one is leveling its just not right.
Like me you may remember when getting groups was easy. I am not exaggerating when I say they are non-existent. Its gone down into history as ancient lore.
People are leaving by the boatloads, too. Do not expect to see any of your friends you once had. I saw 1 person out of about 20 that I was close to.
I wanted DAoC to work out. I really did. I stayed subscribed for about 1.5 months after I realized NF was another untested unthoughtout expansion. Its amazing to me how a game that revolutionized PvP feel into the trap of ruining its own game. Again please heed my warning. There was a reason why you canceled in the first place. Things have only gone downhill. If you need further convincing visit the community VN boards. Not many people have good things to say about this game. Good luck to you all, and let us hope WoW, EQ2, or Guildwars can feel this void of cheap games that are now bombarding us.
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On the flip side, my server has seen the return of many players who cancelled at different times for different reasons. They are all enjoying the TOA and RVR expansions. My bf plays a tank, he has a fine time. We always manage to still find 8v8 in addition to the keep taking and defending.
There are still tons of people around who have been there the whole 2+ years I've been playing. I'm levelling up a runemaster that is 38 and climbing and I find groups just fine, as well am able to level in the bg's now part of the time.
Obviously, not everyone's game experience is going to be the same because we have just the opposite of experiences and views on DAoC. I think boatloads is an exaggeration regarding the number of people leaving and the vn boards actually represent a very small portion of the DAoC player population, which is a pretty well known fact.
Do I think Mythic does all of the right things with the game and development. No way. They have serious customer service problems and a heavy hand when it comes to fixing their development mistakes. But I do think it is still possible to have fun in this game.
Daoc is a really great game. Like all great games peeps will leave and come. Leveling isn't that bad. Fine a great guild that does alot of stuff with there guild. Ask some of ur friends to play with u ( even if ya gotta smack em a few times). If TOA didn't come out NF would be sweet for the arrival of Catacombs.
"A lv 50 Necromancer is the Life of Me!"
"A lv 50 Necromancer is the Life of Me!"
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Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ok several things without trying to sound too biased..... ToA is very annoying, yes. You have to put in a lot more work than you used to in order to get all the stuff you need to rvr. That being said, some of the skills are cool and they're actually about to patch in several things that make it a lot easier to level artifacts from ToA.
Tanks have always been sorta "broken" compared to ranged classes in rvr. Then again that's the same problem as in a lot of games. New frontiers does destroy a lot of the "open field" fights where tanks are much more useful, and they have said they are redesigning some aspects of it to suit them more.....we can hope.
Groups can be found but I doubt you'd find one below lvl 20 because of the /level command. There are a lot more sparse than they used to be. On the plus side you can level purely from rvring in the battlegrounds. As far as the pet thing, I guess you're talking about enchanters powerleveling people? That is disappointing...but oh well. (Valewalkers can tank and they wear cloth just fyi
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I would've thought that the server populations would be much lower when I reactivated my account about 1.5 weeks ago. Amazingly, the exact opposite is true. They are higher than when I first played...and by like 1/3. Percival used to be around 2000 people during primetimes on the weekend at it's max. Now that's the average. Merlin is up around 3000 people all the time.
Overall I'm pleasantly suprised by a lot of the changes. New frontiers does need work though....but they are..."new" and they do have some cool ideas. I think a lot of the daoc experience just depends on who you play with and what your class happens to be.
Yes yes, DAoC sucks, everyone is one leaving, it'll be dead soon. Wish I had a nickle for everytime I heard that over the last 2 years.
Subcribtions are up this quater, higher than they ever have been in the past. People quite games all the time, it's allot like saying people are leaving the theater so that means this movie is going to die soon!
If you don't want to play DAoC anymore, that's cool, but repeating the same montra is just getting old.
I have more fun in NF then I ever did in RvR before it.
You fun in any situation is your doing.
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*Laughing* I have been listening to that same montra about UO since a year after it was released, which is when I started playing. Gee, didn't they just do a re-release of it and had high pre sale numbers?
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I have some very fond memories of playing DAOC and hope to return in the near future. I keep reading good stuff about changes in PvP and I miss killing Albs
If I ever grow tired of playing the WoW beta, then DAOC here I come back!
If DAOC sucks, it's only because Mythic stubbornly makes it so. All they have to do to breathe life back into this game is to implement five very simple changes:
1) Eliminate the /20 command. Give some in-game gift to each level 50 character to make up for this surprise nerf. And it has to be a surprise implementation or else folks will flood all of their server slots with "/20 characters" for future use.
2) Hold off stat allocation points until level 5 (when it matters). If the idea is to pick a final class at level 5, then why have someone spend their points at level 1, only to wish they had allocated them differently later on?
3) Put ALL trainers and ALL crafting material back into the main realm cities (i.e. Camelot, Tir Na Nog, Jordheim). Cities outside this should be for selling, banking, etc, but not for training and crafting. There needs to be a main meeting spot where folks see other traffic and don't feel so isolated in their gaming.)
4) Eliminate most ports. I don't mind a gate to and from the Shrouded Isles, but it needs to be away from the main cities. A journey should be involved somewhere to and from these spots. After all, this is a fantasy setting, not Star Trek.
5) Ensure the top crafting items are better than most drops, with the exception of epics. There needs to be a motive for someone to spend extensive time crafting. Plus, this makes for a lively player economy.
Were DAOC to do those to things (especially the first), then I might be back.
BTW, I have some higher level characters, but occasionally I like to try out a new class and experience the low level game again.
"MMORPG gaming is about enjoying the journey, not racing to the end."
ok, I can go along with the rest but what are you talking about with crafting? As an armorsmith, spellcrafter, fletcher, and weapons smith I do VERY well in camelot making my plat. And I can spellcraft a suit of armor better then most drops in the game. If I am missing something please let me know.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I started Daoc a month ago and I didn't have a lot of trouble finding groups, even below 20 (better to do tasks then to group below 20 tho imo). And if you don't find one just do some tasks or quest and have fun doing so. Once past 20 and into the battlegrounds to get a taste of RvR you'll have made a lot of friends and should have no problem finding groups.
I do play on Excalibur wich is well populated with a 1900-2000 people online at peek hours and in the realm of Albion wich is commenly to most polated of the 3 so that could have to something with me finding groups easily. It's a europe server so no NF yet.
Pan
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Yes, indeed, Albion Excalibur is well populated and rather group friendly: there is an overall feeling that all groups should always get to 8 people groups, and so finding groups is not very difficult and some people (depends on your class and time of day: clerics and paladins are popular classes) even get group invites without asking for them.
On Midgard Prydwen, there isn't such a culture of grouping and it is much harder to find groups. Prydwen is also a smaller server. My young healer (group dependent class) there can be requesting for a group for hours without getting one, as many people prefer to solo, with a buffbot in tow ( usually a shaman class character with 'improvement skills')...
I cannot speak for the other realms of these servers, as I don't know them.
Dillyana Lovecraft
Legendary Tailor
Dillyana Lovecraft
Legendary Tailor
This is the second post by Brostyn about how much he hates DAOC. He seems hell bent on convincing the world that DAOC is the devil. But mum, mumm but mumma said DAOC is the devil!
! His first post a couple months ago is a dramatically well written blob of a paragraph which can be so eloquently viewed here:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/52/loadthread/14541/setstart/1/loadclass/39
After reading his well crafted synopsis of the game I had to take a moment and reflect on the words he had so thoughtfully written. I had to ask myself "Why AM I playing this game?" Then those great words of wisdom resonated within me, "I cancelled, because EQ is king at PvE". Then a bell rang, or was it the door bell, no matter, then I realized that I needed to cancel my account too! His words forged an undescribable movement within me and both my arms snapped out stretced from my body, parallel with each other and I began to moan taking small, slow, awkward steps to the computer. Having no control over my hands they hastily grabbed the mouse and clicked the unsubscribed button! Afterwards I felt I had awoken from a dream with an extreme headache but not from the spine tingling disertation Brostyn gave but because my roommate hit me over the head to snap me out of a zombie like hypnotization.
Never had the written word affected me so. The mighty word can move mountains and if it were not for the wisdom of Brostyn, which I think is a better name "Brostyn the Wise", I would still be playing that gimp of an EQ clone. Hail the freer of the DAOC SLAVES!, Hail! I was bound now I am free, I was lost now I am found, I was hated now I am loved! Without this guidance I would be but empty footprints washed up by a sea of an "bombardment of cheap games".
Thank you so much, it was a zen moment, a moment of enlightenment.
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Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson