Hmm - thinking this true, it all seems logical enough.
You need people to test an encounter, the best people to test are "real" players, those players will want to continue in the "real game" etc etc
But this leaves the question of whether under these circumstances there can be any genuine competition to be the "first" to down a big boss... with the in-game rewards that implies. Or is the ingame reward effectively a payment for the help in beta testing?
Hmm - thinking this true, it all seems logical enough. You need people to test an encounter, the best people to test are "real" players, those players will want to continue in the "real game" etc etc But this leaves the question of whether under these circumstances there can be any genuine competition to be the "first" to down a big boss... with the in-game rewards that implies. Or is the ingame reward effectively a payment for the help in beta testing?
I dont know exactly. I have been following testing for a while. But not in the last 10 months or so. Back then it was that any content sooner or later was on testserver and anyone was able to have a look. Testserver was not under a hard NDA and the test forums are public readable. There never was a big secret once something hit testserver.
The endgame raid bosses are not falling dead to the ground just because you know the script. Most scripts are know but killing them is a different story
Oh get over it "judged". Let me ask you something.... do you sometimes do things to cater to your regular customers at your job? Or do you just always do business as usual? I bet you cater to them occasionally, like give them slightly cheaper rates, or even something for free. And sometimes.... just sometimes, you give the ones you see personally all the time special priveleges you wouldn't even consider giving others.
Its the same damned thing only its online. Stop freaking out over nothing.
Getting back to childish OP point of telling everyone not to play EQ2 because of 'corruption' from SOE devs.... If this is in reaction to anything posted at eq2flames, heh, then I think i will pass on your 'advice.' Not only does the content of the site exhibit all the moral squallor of a 4 year old child (sorry for the ad hominem, but I have other way of describing this pathetic web site), but the tenor and tone of the site makes me want to retch.
You are mad that the developers give advice to in-game guilds? I bet you wouldnt be mad if you were a recipient of said help and advice. Further, how does this help actually affect your gameplay in any way whatsoever? Are they spawn-camping the epics so that you dont have a chance at killing the mob (well... no... since most raid content is instanced in the expansion.. but they kill overland content too much... boo hoo...woe is me...)
Please take the whining back to LFG and eq2flames, they love the drama on that website. I think that this is a pathetic example of people truly needing to get out of the basement and get a real job sometimes.... (Again, sorry for the ad hominem, but my gosh ...)
More proof that SOE is corrupt and their games are not worth playing. I bet SOE doesn't fire this ass clown developer.
Unbelievable... I cannot believe how moronic some people are. You want someone to lose their livelihood because of some so-called corruption? Have you ever had a job? Have you ever had to provide food and shelter for you and your loved ones? If someone at SOE made a mistake, do you think its something to get fired over? If so, I am happy to meet one person who never has to worry about getting fired from their job for making a mistake.
I bet the number 2-5 guilds on those servers are not effected in the least. When they are all competing for talented recruits to join their guild and the number 1 guilds seem to have an uncanny knack of walking through content. I'm sure those other guilds feel like they are playing on a level field.
My old EQ guild had some very strong connections at SOE and I saw exactly how much that can affect your guilds status on a server and the cheating you can get away with. I didn't know much of what was going on until some time later when it all came out, but it made some things much clearer when they did. I couldn't believe some of the things the guild got away with and the stranglehold we held on the server.
I know EQ2 isn't the same game as EQ, but it is still a really shitty thing for the devs to do. It is why I am not surprised in the smallest amount.
More proof that SOE is corrupt and their games are not worth playing. I bet SOE doesn't fire this ass clown developer.
I bet your one of those people that wants someone to get fired for the stupidest things.
I work in a hotel. yesterday, I had to make some people at the desk wait 15 minutes before I could serve them because the damned phone wouldn't stop ringing. Should I be fired too?
Thank god i have never ran into any corruption or know any game employees, i have always played eq2 as intended by its build and have always had fun, as for what the Op has stated about this, let them get dealt with and possibly banned, the only real reason this would make me angry is if this was on a pvp server where it mattered to me, but it appears it is not and it has absolutly no effect on my gameplay and in the end i have a lot of fun in eq2 which is all that matters, i never really liked when people say ''when i worked my butt off in an mmo'' as this shows a sighn of jelousy by the op used within the text given and if ya really wanna see what working your but off is feed coal to a furnace in the summer for 12 hours a day that will make coming home to play eq2 a blessing and really make ya not give a rats ass what some crap happened to someone else on a pve server where it doesnt even matter that much anyway.
You people that are making excuses for this corrupt EQ2 developer and calling what he did a mistake are funny.
When an employee purposely gives insider information to only one group of individuals in a MMOG, it cannot be confused with being a mistake. Get real, that hotel analogy wasn't even close to what happened. This rat deserves to be fired pronto.
You people that are making excuses for this corrupt EQ2 developer and calling what he did a mistake are funny. When an employee purposely gives insider information to only one group of individuals in a MMOG, it cannot be confused with being a mistake. Get real, that hotel analogy wasn't even close to what happened. This rat deserves to be fired pronto.
Ummm.... Yeah, right. You are funny because you know nothing about having a real job I assume. And, no, playing EQ2 is not a job, its a game.
I apologize for being rude, but calling this developer a rat is not only egregious but somewhat silly. I know you are just trolling here trying to stir up interest in this non-controversy, so please get some real-life experience before you start spouting about things with which you obviously have no clue.
This kind of behavior surprises no one who went through the SWG NGE fiasco.
Anyone who dealt with Brenlo back then in SWG knows that the fish rots from the head, their WHOLE community relations department are a bunch of assholes.
While EQ2Flames can be quite bad at times, the "outing" threads over there do offer some rather covincing evidence of the transgressions to back up the circumstantial claims.
Additionally, the corruption list doesn't stop at giving privledged information to live server guilds, and maintaining suspect relations with those guilds.
It's been pointed out that one Dev before being hired as a Dev was apparently involved in the theft of an entire guild bank. (old forum posts are available to read, and now that the Devs characters name is known, it pretty much points right to him)
And a Dev has been accused of trading in-game favors for RL sexual favors. (pure vitirol really at this point)
If a developer has stolen from a guild bank or asked for RL sexual favors than this would be something I would definitely have an issue about. However, these claims dont pass the smell test for me. Consider- developers have many tools for manipulating the data (any piece of data, literally) within the game. Why would a developer 'steal' from an in-game guild bank when he could literally use tools to remove the items without any trace at all. Thats stupid behavior and it doesnt pass muster.
My opinion, is that this all a bunch of crap from an overly dramatic website that relishes in conspiracy theories. Further, I think that these people on eq2flames feel jilted because some developers play with certain guilds. If they were on that guild, then you wouldnt hear a peep out of them. And further for the admin to post any personal information about the developers is tantamount to thowing a virtual temper tantrum. These children need to grow up. The moderator of eq2flames (LFG) needs to really stop the drama and stop throwing hissy fits all the time when he doesnt get his way.
More proof that SOE is corrupt and their games are not worth playing. I bet SOE doesn't fire this ass clown developer.
Unbelievable... I cannot believe how moronic some people are. You want someone to lose their livelihood because of some so-called corruption? Have you ever had a job? Have you ever had to provide food and shelter for you and your loved ones? If someone at SOE made a mistake, do you think its something to get fired over? If so, I am happy to meet one person who never has to worry about getting fired from their job for making a mistake.
What a joke...
Ummm.... Have you ever had a job?
I am a project manager for a government contractor in D.C.
I read the OP's link, I read several pages into it.
The dev was wrong, played favorites to a guild by leaking information. Gave a small group of people an advantage over many. This guild of people were in essence able to cheat themselves to the top. They didn't learn something on their own, they were given an inside sneak peak, step-by-step instruction guide on how to complete a raid.
Do you know what would happen to someone in my company who leaked information? Information of any kind? Regardless of how small?
Fired! yep FIRED.... step into my office because your FIREDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
In this place tho not only would you be FIREDDDDDDD! but more than likely prosecuted as well.
Leaking information is leaking information, and tho the EQ2 dev's job and mine differ, they are both based off the same principles.
His job is to develop a game and play the game usually for testing purposes. They can play inside the community to gain feedback about mechanics and how a game is played/working.
Not develop then whatever guild you happen to be favoring at the time hand them the tools to gain unfair advantages.
If a developer has stolen from a guild bank or asked for RL sexual favors than this would be something I would definitely have an issue about. However, these claims dont pass the smell test for me. Consider- developers have many tools for manipulating the data (any piece of data, literally) within the game. Why would a developer 'steal' from an in-game guild bank when he could literally use tools to remove the items without any trace at all. Thats stupid behavior and it doesnt pass muster. My opinion, is that this all a bunch of crap from an overly dramatic website that relishes in conspiracy theories. Further, I think that these people on eq2flames feel jilted because some developers play with certain guilds. If they were on that guild, then you wouldnt hear a peep out of them. And further for the admin to post any personal information about the developers is tantamount to thowing a virtual temper tantrum. These children need to grow up. The moderator of eq2flames (LFG) needs to really stop the drama and stop throwing hissy fits all the time when he doesnt get his way.
It was before he became a Dev, and that is why is surfaced after his original game names became linked to his current Dev name.
And while what you say can be true, the evidence presented in the posts that I read through over there, and the attitudes of the people associated with the accussed (like NPU posters) in my opinion seem to give some of these claims some legs.
im really astonished by how many ppl here actually defend the dev "People makes mistakes"?? leaking information on purpose is a "mistake" nowadays?
"u dont have a real job blabla" its the job of the dev to run the game in a way that everyone has EQUAL chances, by leaking information (lets just put aside whether or not that email was real) he doesnt do his job like he should
ow and to the guy that said gaming is a waste of time, stop gaming then im not playing a mmo to see my toon get wiped while im still enjoying the game
MMOs currently playing: - About to play: Lord of the Rings Online Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
Okay, so now we are using the analogy that an SOE developer playing the game (that he developed by the way) is equivalent to a government contractor giving out NDA information. Hmmm.... That's both logical and fair. The fact that the developer is actually using the software he is developing in whatever manner he sees rises to the level of government corruption. Yeah, right. And the fact that a developer who has created his own code base, is hired by a company who owns said code base for whatever reason is the same as government officials disclosing private information. yeah... right.
Some people seriously need to get out of their basements and get some perspective.
You people think that 'leaking information' is the same thing as cheating. Dont you people know that the developers and the parent company SOE owns the code for the video game. They can do anything they wish to the game. They can give out any information they want for the game in whatever fashion they see fit. If you dont like it, then I dont know what to say - they own the code, its their rules. We have whispers of conspiracy, corruption, one freaking poster says this is equivalent to government secrets and information being disclosed. This is unbelievable.
You people think that 'leaking information' is the same thing as cheating. Dont you people know that the developers and the parent company SOE owns the code for the video game. They can do anything they wish to the game. They can give out any information they want for the game in whatever fashion they see fit. If you dont like it, then I dont know what to say - they own the code, its their rules. We have whispers of conspiracy, corruption, one freaking poster says this is equivalent to government secrets and information being disclosed. This is unbelievable.
Let me try to break it down in a more "simple" example for you.
You have SOE ( Owner ) you have a Dev ( Employee ) - Dev leaks information regarding a raid to a guild that does not work for SOE to give them an unfair advantage over their competition.
You have McDonalds ( Owner ) you have a cook ( Employee ) - Cook leaks information on how a big mac is actually made and what is in the secret sauce to burger king giving burger king a new advantage over the competition.
There are a million ways to analyze what the dev did, each and every one of them are W R O N G. The dev owns shit. He is an employee of SOE and I will promise you SOE has a disclosure agreement for all of their employees, devs included not to leak information to the public of any kind. Hell they make beta testers keep their mouth shut when testing for the same reason. They want as little info as possible to leak before release, as not to give the competition an edge over them.
This dev didn't make a "mistake" he crossed a line, a line you do not cross in an MMO. The key to all this is he did it inside a game where the game revolves around the players. The players make MMO not the game itself. By doing what he did, he tipped the balance of gameplay, and he tipped the balance of the way the public perceives the company. This dev's actions now have a slew of EQ2 players screaming for blood because he leaked information. This isn't good HR/PR for SOE (which it needs). I am telling you right now If I was lead developer of that team or project lead, I would fire this asshat on the spot and send him packing.
Last time I checked I can't type /zone and jump to a location or type /spawn to get that mythical item. This is obviously meant for inhouse testing. And the people posting this are most likely under NDA. Maybe they got a third party guild to test, but this does not prove to me it's cheating.
Added to the fact we don't know who wrote that. and we are just going on eq2flames word that is was a member of a 3rd party guild. For all we know this is from a disgruntled quality assurance tester.
Nice try... If the developer were giving out the actual code about how to develop a raid boss encounter, then you would have a point. The dev in question was playing the game and told the users the winning strategy on how to beat the boss. No code leaks there I presume. Further, the dev would be spot-on doing his job if he was 'testing' this in a live enviroment. Your analogy fails once again. Sorry.
Nice try... If the developer were giving out the actual code about how to develop a raid boss encounter, then you would have a point. The dev in question was playing the game and told the users the winning strategy on how to beat the boss. No code leaks there I presume. Further, the dev would be spot-on doing his job if he was 'testing' this in a live enviroment. Your analogy fails once again. Sorry.
Ok, I can see your never going to get it. So no need to keep it going.
I don't know if he even did what the players at EQFlames said he did. If he did, which I cannot possibly see why you don't understand it is a form of cheating, then he deserves to be let go.
Dev's help make a game, not play it as "one of the guys" they have access to anything and everything in the game, with as little effort as a keystroke. To send an email to a guild leader giving him the step-by-step guide on how to complete an instance is cheating every player not inside said guild.
To prove my point if it were not that big a deal as you suggest why didn't SOE put that entire email on the official sites forums for every single player of EQ2 to utilize?
I will tell you why, because it is cheating. SOE knows it, the dev knew it, and the guild that used it knows it.
That is why everyone is pissed off.
He took what was at the time a secret to the players, because noone had figured it out yet or been there. He gave it to a set of players so they could be the first to do something. They did nothing on their own. They just cheated their way right on through it.
People like you who defend cheating is what ruins the great MMO's we do have left.
He might as well just typed in the code and gave them every scrap of loot that raid drops. He did the next best thing instead he told them exactly how to do the raid, in instructions even a baby could understand.
So 10-20 people had the inside tip, and the other 1000 on the server got shafted.
Imagine you work hours and hours for you character and guild to become the top guild of an MMORPG, only to realize that some Developers are leaking complete strat to certain guild. It ruins the fun and competitive spirit for everyone. May this be a warning to other Devs on other MMORPG, never do that crap to your game, cause it ruins any fun and immersion to the game, Here is a link to a post that reveal eq2 Dev cheating and leaking strategies to the top guild in eq2.
I might of cared what you posted had you had some kind of veteranacy(new word) but the fact that this is your 2nd post your just here to flame at your fustrations. Developers leak stuff because to be honest you think someone is really finding out everything that is posted on eq2.wikia.com on there own? How do you think the blood code was founded on Mortal Kombat for the sega genesis it was LEAKed come on man. If your ranking your guild to be the best no amount of Dev help will make another guild surpass your own. You will still be the best guild.
and you are somehow better than someone because you spend more time on forums? LOL! i've never heard of such ignorance.
I wish you would of exposed this information awhile ago before I played it for a couple years and thoroughly enjoyed the game the entire time until I left.
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Hmm - thinking this true, it all seems logical enough.
You need people to test an encounter, the best people to test are "real" players, those players will want to continue in the "real game" etc etc
But this leaves the question of whether under these circumstances there can be any genuine competition to be the "first" to down a big boss... with the in-game rewards that implies. Or is the ingame reward effectively a payment for the help in beta testing?
The endgame raid bosses are not falling dead to the ground just because you know the script. Most scripts are know but killing them is a different story
Oh get over it "judged". Let me ask you something.... do you sometimes do things to cater to your regular customers at your job? Or do you just always do business as usual? I bet you cater to them occasionally, like give them slightly cheaper rates, or even something for free. And sometimes.... just sometimes, you give the ones you see personally all the time special priveleges you wouldn't even consider giving others.
Its the same damned thing only its online. Stop freaking out over nothing.
Getting back to childish OP point of telling everyone not to play EQ2 because of 'corruption' from SOE devs.... If this is in reaction to anything posted at eq2flames, heh, then I think i will pass on your 'advice.' Not only does the content of the site exhibit all the moral squallor of a 4 year old child (sorry for the ad hominem, but I have other way of describing this pathetic web site), but the tenor and tone of the site makes me want to retch.
You are mad that the developers give advice to in-game guilds? I bet you wouldnt be mad if you were a recipient of said help and advice. Further, how does this help actually affect your gameplay in any way whatsoever? Are they spawn-camping the epics so that you dont have a chance at killing the mob (well... no... since most raid content is instanced in the expansion.. but they kill overland content too much... boo hoo...woe is me...)
Please take the whining back to LFG and eq2flames, they love the drama on that website. I think that this is a pathetic example of people truly needing to get out of the basement and get a real job sometimes.... (Again, sorry for the ad hominem, but my gosh ...)
More proof that SOE is corrupt and their games are not worth playing. I bet SOE doesn't fire this ass clown developer.
What a joke...
I bet the number 2-5 guilds on those servers are not effected in the least. When they are all competing for talented recruits to join their guild and the number 1 guilds seem to have an uncanny knack of walking through content. I'm sure those other guilds feel like they are playing on a level field.
My old EQ guild had some very strong connections at SOE and I saw exactly how much that can affect your guilds status on a server and the cheating you can get away with. I didn't know much of what was going on until some time later when it all came out, but it made some things much clearer when they did. I couldn't believe some of the things the guild got away with and the stranglehold we held on the server.
I know EQ2 isn't the same game as EQ, but it is still a really shitty thing for the devs to do. It is why I am not surprised in the smallest amount.
I work in a hotel. yesterday, I had to make some people at the desk wait 15 minutes before I could serve them because the damned phone wouldn't stop ringing. Should I be fired too?
Seriously, wth is wrong with you?
People make mistakes. Get over it.
Thank god i have never ran into any corruption or know any game employees, i have always played eq2 as intended by its build and have always had fun, as for what the Op has stated about this, let them get dealt with and possibly banned, the only real reason this would make me angry is if this was on a pvp server where it mattered to me, but it appears it is not and it has absolutly no effect on my gameplay and in the end i have a lot of fun in eq2 which is all that matters, i never really liked when people say ''when i worked my butt off in an mmo'' as this shows a sighn of jelousy by the op used within the text given and if ya really wanna see what working your but off is feed coal to a furnace in the summer for 12 hours a day that will make coming home to play eq2 a blessing and really make ya not give a rats ass what some crap happened to someone else on a pve server where it doesnt even matter that much anyway.
playing eq2 and two worlds
You people that are making excuses for this corrupt EQ2 developer and calling what he did a mistake are funny.
When an employee purposely gives insider information to only one group of individuals in a MMOG, it cannot be confused with being a mistake. Get real, that hotel analogy wasn't even close to what happened. This rat deserves to be fired pronto.
Ummm.... Yeah, right. You are funny because you know nothing about having a real job I assume. And, no, playing EQ2 is not a job, its a game.
I apologize for being rude, but calling this developer a rat is not only egregious but somewhat silly. I know you are just trolling here trying to stir up interest in this non-controversy, so please get some real-life experience before you start spouting about things with which you obviously have no clue.
This kind of behavior surprises no one who went through the SWG NGE fiasco.
Anyone who dealt with Brenlo back then in SWG knows that the fish rots from the head, their WHOLE community relations department are a bunch of assholes.
While EQ2Flames can be quite bad at times, the "outing" threads over there do offer some rather covincing evidence of the transgressions to back up the circumstantial claims.
Additionally, the corruption list doesn't stop at giving privledged information to live server guilds, and maintaining suspect relations with those guilds.
It's been pointed out that one Dev before being hired as a Dev was apparently involved in the theft of an entire guild bank. (old forum posts are available to read, and now that the Devs characters name is known, it pretty much points right to him)
And a Dev has been accused of trading in-game favors for RL sexual favors. (pure vitirol really at this point)
If a developer has stolen from a guild bank or asked for RL sexual favors than this would be something I would definitely have an issue about. However, these claims dont pass the smell test for me. Consider- developers have many tools for manipulating the data (any piece of data, literally) within the game. Why would a developer 'steal' from an in-game guild bank when he could literally use tools to remove the items without any trace at all. Thats stupid behavior and it doesnt pass muster.
My opinion, is that this all a bunch of crap from an overly dramatic website that relishes in conspiracy theories. Further, I think that these people on eq2flames feel jilted because some developers play with certain guilds. If they were on that guild, then you wouldnt hear a peep out of them. And further for the admin to post any personal information about the developers is tantamount to thowing a virtual temper tantrum. These children need to grow up. The moderator of eq2flames (LFG) needs to really stop the drama and stop throwing hissy fits all the time when he doesnt get his way.
What a joke...
Ummm.... Have you ever had a job?
I am a project manager for a government contractor in D.C.
I read the OP's link, I read several pages into it.
The dev was wrong, played favorites to a guild by leaking information. Gave a small group of people an advantage over many. This guild of people were in essence able to cheat themselves to the top. They didn't learn something on their own, they were given an inside sneak peak, step-by-step instruction guide on how to complete a raid.
Do you know what would happen to someone in my company who leaked information? Information of any kind? Regardless of how small?
Fired! yep FIRED.... step into my office because your FIREDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
In this place tho not only would you be FIREDDDDDDD! but more than likely prosecuted as well.
Leaking information is leaking information, and tho the EQ2 dev's job and mine differ, they are both based off the same principles.
His job is to develop a game and play the game usually for testing purposes. They can play inside the community to gain feedback about mechanics and how a game is played/working.
Not develop then whatever guild you happen to be favoring at the time hand them the tools to gain unfair advantages.
I would have fired this bozo in a heartbeat.
It was before he became a Dev, and that is why is surfaced after his original game names became linked to his current Dev name.
And while what you say can be true, the evidence presented in the posts that I read through over there, and the attitudes of the people associated with the accussed (like NPU posters) in my opinion seem to give some of these claims some legs.
im not playing EQ but i just had to reply..
im really astonished by how many ppl here actually defend the dev "People makes mistakes"?? leaking information on purpose is a "mistake" nowadays?
"u dont have a real job blabla" its the job of the dev to run the game in a way that everyone has EQUAL chances, by leaking information (lets just put aside whether or not that email was real) he doesnt do his job like he should
ow and to the guy that said gaming is a waste of time, stop gaming then
im not playing a mmo to see my toon get wiped while im still enjoying the game
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
Okay, so now we are using the analogy that an SOE developer playing the game (that he developed by the way) is equivalent to a government contractor giving out NDA information. Hmmm.... That's both logical and fair. The fact that the developer is actually using the software he is developing in whatever manner he sees rises to the level of government corruption. Yeah, right. And the fact that a developer who has created his own code base, is hired by a company who owns said code base for whatever reason is the same as government officials disclosing private information. yeah... right.
Some people seriously need to get out of their basements and get some perspective.
You people think that 'leaking information' is the same thing as cheating. Dont you people know that the developers and the parent company SOE owns the code for the video game. They can do anything they wish to the game. They can give out any information they want for the game in whatever fashion they see fit. If you dont like it, then I dont know what to say - they own the code, its their rules. We have whispers of conspiracy, corruption, one freaking poster says this is equivalent to government secrets and information being disclosed. This is unbelievable.
Let me try to break it down in a more "simple" example for you.
You have SOE ( Owner ) you have a Dev ( Employee ) - Dev leaks information regarding a raid to a guild that does not work for SOE to give them an unfair advantage over their competition.
You have McDonalds ( Owner ) you have a cook ( Employee ) - Cook leaks information on how a big mac is actually made and what is in the secret sauce to burger king giving burger king a new advantage over the competition.
There are a million ways to analyze what the dev did, each and every one of them are W R O N G. The dev owns shit. He is an employee of SOE and I will promise you SOE has a disclosure agreement for all of their employees, devs included not to leak information to the public of any kind. Hell they make beta testers keep their mouth shut when testing for the same reason. They want as little info as possible to leak before release, as not to give the competition an edge over them.
This dev didn't make a "mistake" he crossed a line, a line you do not cross in an MMO. The key to all this is he did it inside a game where the game revolves around the players. The players make MMO not the game itself. By doing what he did, he tipped the balance of gameplay, and he tipped the balance of the way the public perceives the company. This dev's actions now have a slew of EQ2 players screaming for blood because he leaked information. This isn't good HR/PR for SOE (which it needs). I am telling you right now If I was lead developer of that team or project lead, I would fire this asshat on the spot and send him packing.
Look at theemail EQ2Flames itself provides. http://www.eq2flames.com/general-gameplay/22042-eq2-flames-consolidated-developer-information-list-12.html#post502907
Last time I checked I can't type /zone and jump to a location or type /spawn to get that mythical item. This is obviously meant for inhouse testing. And the people posting this are most likely under NDA. Maybe they got a third party guild to test, but this does not prove to me it's cheating.
Added to the fact we don't know who wrote that. and we are just going on eq2flames word that is was a member of a 3rd party guild. For all we know this is from a disgruntled quality assurance tester.
Nice try... If the developer were giving out the actual code about how to develop a raid boss encounter, then you would have a point. The dev in question was playing the game and told the users the winning strategy on how to beat the boss. No code leaks there I presume. Further, the dev would be spot-on doing his job if he was 'testing' this in a live enviroment. Your analogy fails once again. Sorry.
Ok, I can see your never going to get it. So no need to keep it going.
I don't know if he even did what the players at EQFlames said he did. If he did, which I cannot possibly see why you don't understand it is a form of cheating, then he deserves to be let go.
Dev's help make a game, not play it as "one of the guys" they have access to anything and everything in the game, with as little effort as a keystroke. To send an email to a guild leader giving him the step-by-step guide on how to complete an instance is cheating every player not inside said guild.
To prove my point if it were not that big a deal as you suggest why didn't SOE put that entire email on the official sites forums for every single player of EQ2 to utilize?
I will tell you why, because it is cheating. SOE knows it, the dev knew it, and the guild that used it knows it.
That is why everyone is pissed off.
He took what was at the time a secret to the players, because noone had figured it out yet or been there. He gave it to a set of players so they could be the first to do something. They did nothing on their own. They just cheated their way right on through it.
People like you who defend cheating is what ruins the great MMO's we do have left.
He might as well just typed in the code and gave them every scrap of loot that raid drops. He did the next best thing instead he told them exactly how to do the raid, in instructions even a baby could understand.
So 10-20 people had the inside tip, and the other 1000 on the server got shafted.
GG Dev, GG SOE - dirtbags
I might of cared what you posted had you had some kind of veteranacy(new word) but the fact that this is your 2nd post your just here to flame at your fustrations. Developers leak stuff because to be honest you think someone is really finding out everything that is posted on eq2.wikia.com on there own? How do you think the blood code was founded on Mortal Kombat for the sega genesis it was LEAKed come on man. If your ranking your guild to be the best no amount of Dev help will make another guild surpass your own. You will still be the best guild.
and you are somehow better than someone because you spend more time on forums? LOL! i've never heard of such ignorance.
I wish you would of exposed this information awhile ago before I played it for a couple years and thoroughly enjoyed the game the entire time until I left.