America isn't a place, rather it's an idea. An idea that one owns one's self, one's labor and time as property. That no other may seek any portion of it as their property without trade. Yet, today, that idea is out of fashion, it is considered old and tired, and some even claim it's impractical. But ideas like these don't really die, they simply find new minds to inhabit. For me it is sad to say that those that claim to be Americans don't house the idea of America anymore. And to me, they are the ones who are dead, not the idea. -- Brede
America is dead......It died long ago. The orginal idea has been overwritten so as our
laws and our freedoms, they're tweaked but not to everyone's benefit.
You get your historical perspective from the time in which you where born into. America will be all things to all people as it is now and in 10 yrs China Ha ha HA... what a joke,sometime in the future you will see it brake apart JUST like the USSR, and just how long do think their going to be able to keep suppressing the free will of their people. people will come and go,elected officials come and go, but THE GOOD OLD USA STIILL SHAPES THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT. O He of Little faith.
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Frodus, I hope (for the sake of the world) that you're right. But if you look at history as a whole, the default position is China at the top. The western worlds power is a recent phenomenon.
I should have explained my self better...but this is what mean its just a matter of time.
TONGREN, China — Protests spread from Tibet into three neighboring provinces Sunday as Tibetans defied a Chinese government crackdown, while the Dalai Lama decried what he called the "cultural genocide" taking place in his homeland.
Demonstrations widened to Tibetan communities in Sichuan, Qinghai and Gansu provinces, forcing authorities to mobilize security forces across a broad expanse of western China.
In Tongren, riot police sent to prevent protests set off tensions when they took up positions outside a monastery. Dozens of monks, defying a directive not to gather in groups, marched to a hill where they set off fireworks and burned incense in what one monk said was a protest, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene.
In a sign that authorities were preparing for trouble, AP and other foreign journalists were ordered out of the Tibetan parts of Gansu and Qinghai provinces by police who told them it was for their "safety."
Meanwhile, police in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, searched buildings as a Monday deadline loomed for people who took part in a violent anti-Chinese uprising last week to surrender or face severe punishment.
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All the pressure from various sources is putting a huge strain on the US right now. How much longer can it keep going before it just collapses. Think about it. We have the threat of terrorism. Cost of oil is killing our economy. The housing bust is killing us. The huge amount of plain consumer credit is almost incomprehensible. We're fighting two wars. The dollar is loosing ground on a nearly daily basis now. Environmentalist are pressuring our government about global warming. Farmers have started growing more corn then wheat and for the first time in American history the US is having to import wheat! The bio-fuel BS is putting a strain on our resources and is 10 times more harmful to the environment to make it then pumping oil from ANWAR yet we're in high gear to produce more ethanol. Think about this - it takes 5 gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol. 5 gallons. We have water shortages so bad in some places that states are talking about redrawing their borders so that they can get their hands on water that are in another state! That is not even a 1/4 of the problems the US is facing right now. So the question is...can it sustain itself much longer considering the amount of pressure it is currently under?
The green house effect is dangerous, more dangerous is the bio-fuel BS
Honestly I dont know but i can tell u this America is on the same path as South Africa one of these days u will sit with a communist government and everything will go to shit . Just look at your police , fire and medical departments are all socialised at the moment. America is following the same route with gun laws as South Africa Guess what violent crime is gonna triple 6 months after inception of the law. I think in ten years there will be one world order (Reighn of the anti-christ) . U all bitch and moan about how many soldiers died in Iraq war wake up people , in South africa more people die of violent crime every year than in the whole iraq war .
imposing an extra 10% tariff for outsourcing labor and importing goods
and giving a 15% tax break to companies who hire legal american citizens
imposing HARSH penalties like loss of business license to companies who repeatedly hire undocumented workers
end this pointless war and instead use the billions of dollars to invest in research for solar/hydro/geothermal/hydrogen energy
install a few hundred square miles of grids of solar power in the mojave/sonoran desert
limit our use of fossil fuels to planes, military vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks, police cruisers and trucking companies
i ran out of thought on this topic so I'll leave it as that
America is just going through some hard times. We will pull out, just like we did in the past. Doom and gloom is all I hear from most of you. We just have to hang tight and do the best we can.
BTW....We dont need a president like Obama. He will ruin us. No experience, plus he is a closet bigot. Check out his 20 year Pastor, that is his mentor, baptized him and married him. Obama is a good orator, nothing else. He should just go away.
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Bio fuels have their merits... But not many. They're not sufficient to replace fossil fuels and all they do is take up precious agricultural soil (which is becoming rarer by the day).
We don't need that bio fuel crap. There are many other ways to get rid of fossil fuels.
I can't believe no one remembers the Carter years and the 70s in general. It wasn't that long ago! We arn't even close to those days. There was real depresion in those days. Double digit interest rates. Iran hostage crisis and Carters bumbleing of that. Giving up Panama canal. Double digit inflation, and on and on. The only thing Carter did right is sign off on the cruise missile. Now depresion is my mmo game is delayed again. I bet the future didn't look too good during the WW1 and WW2 either.
Now we have a hostile media that constantly attacks the current administration and the world media just loves it.
The US economy was stagnant under Carter, mostly due to the oil crisis. It wasn’t until the early 80’s under Reagan that the economy really went south. 81-83 were the worst years economically since the great depression, and the middle class suffered badly through the 80’s. Currently economics and politics are very much 80’s lite.
Well, in my young American life... I think that we will exists for a lot longer than 10 years. There has yet to be a war that we have lost, except possible the Vietnam War. Even that, we did not lose, but rather withdrew our troops and let the Vietnamese brawl themselves.
Well, in my young American life... I think that we will exists for a lot longer than 10 years. There has yet to be a war that we have lost, except possible the Vietnam War. Even that, we did not lose, but rather withdrew our troops and let the Vietnamese brawl themselves.
Ones loses a military conflict when one is unable to fulfill its goals. Which was the case in the Vietnam war.
Well, in my young American life... I think that we will exists for a lot longer than 10 years. There has yet to be a war that we have lost, except possible the Vietnam War. Even that, we did not lose, but rather withdrew our troops and let the Vietnamese brawl themselves.
Ones loses a military conflict when one is unable to fulfill its goals. Which was the case in the Vietnam war.
That could be argued that we did or did not accomplish our task in Vietnam. Although the communists did come out victorious, our goals were changed during the war. We wanted to get out of there as soon as possible, so our goal then was to train the south Vietnamese to fight for themselves. We accomplished that, but they still got their asses kicked hard.
I can't believe no one remembers the Carter years and the 70s in general. It wasn't that long ago! We arn't even close to those days. There was real depresion in those days. Double digit interest rates. Iran hostage crisis and Carters bumbleing of that. Giving up Panama canal. Double digit inflation, and on and on. The only thing Carter did right is sign off on the cruise missile. Now depresion is my mmo game is delayed again. I bet the future didn't look too good during the WW1 and WW2 either.
Now we have a hostile media that constantly attacks the current administration and the world media just loves it.
The US economy was stagnant under Carter, mostly due to the oil crisis. It wasn’t until the early 80’s under Reagan that the economy really went south. 81-83 were the worst years economically since the great depression, and the middle class suffered badly through the 80’s. Currently economics and politics are very much 80’s lite.
very little does a pres deal with things he has started. Most likely what happend under Regan started with Carter, it was like pushig a ball down a hill, it wont stop till it hits bottom and it didnt hit bottom till Regan.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
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this is a very stupid thread ...... if the US did fail, the rest of the world would be in the shitter, as far as the economy goes. China would lose over half their exports, if the USA did break down and get destroyed there would be a big depression.
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The United States is slated for destruction in 2010. Thats when the SPP will be fully implemented. And it wont be any war that brings the USA down but rather its very own political leaders.
These political leaders wont act to stop massive waves of illegal immigrants into US territory because they know its pointless with the impending merger between the US, Canada and Mexico.
The merger between the United States, Canada, and Mexico has been underway since the NAFTA treaty but has recently accelerated with the illegal SPP treaty of 2005 I say illegal because any treaty must be approved by the US Congress but this one wasnt. Bush calls it an "agreement" and therefore doesnt need approval.
Just recently Canada and the United States agreed to share troops in the event of a crisis. It will be much easier for canadian troops to shoot a US citizen for failing to go along with Marshall Law than for a US soldier to do so.
Mexican truck drivers are now free to enter US soil to deliver goods. And with the coming NAFTA Superhighway, mexican trucks will have free reign inside the USA.
The US economy and Dollar are being purposely destroyed from within. Recessions dont just happen folks, they are scientifically designed by the Federal Reserve and its elite banking families.
Using the age old tactic of heglian principles, the elite are causing the crisis and will naturally offer you the solution. This "solution" will be a new currency called the Amero followed by a new nation called The North American Union.
And for those that think this wont happen, I refer you to the European Union.
Nobody should be surprised by this act. After all, the politicians we elect tend to all be members of the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), a body that supports world govt. What did you think would happen when you elect people who are members of the CFR ? And dont think things will change in the coming election...all the remaining candidates are CFR members. The election is a fraud and this country will soon end thanks to the ignorance of its citizens and the political leaders/traitors.
And dont think the elite arent prepared for those cowboys that plan on resisting. Right now Haliburton's baby company (KBR) is building concentration / internment camps in the United States in preparation for Marshall Law. Last year alone Congress allocated 385 million dollars for these camps to be constructed.
The govt is even working with local clergy in a program designed by FEMA to get people to submit to Marshall Law by using Romans 13. They have already used this tactic in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
The United States is slated for destruction in 2010. Thats when the SPP will be fully implemented. And it wont be any war that brings the USA down but rather its very own political leaders. http://youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo These political leaders wont act to stop massive waves of illegal immigrants into US territory because they know its pointless with the impending merger between the US, Canada and Mexico. The merger between the United States, Canada, and Mexico has been underway since the NAFTA treaty but has recently accelerated with the illegal SPP treaty of 2005 I say illegal because any treaty must be approved by the US Congress but this one wasnt. Bush calls it an "agreement" and therefore doesnt need approval. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50618 Just recently Canada and the United States agreed to share troops in the event of a crisis. It will be much easier for canadian troops to shoot a US citizen for failing to go along with Marshall Law than for a US soldier to do so. http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=327869 Mexican truck drivers are now free to enter US soil to deliver goods. And with the coming NAFTA Superhighway, mexican trucks will have free reign inside the USA. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20625369/ The US economy and Dollar are being purposely destroyed from within. Recessions dont just happen folks, they are scientifically designed by the Federal Reserve and its elite banking families. http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Federal_Reserve_McFadden.htm Using the age old tactic of heglian principles, the elite are causing the crisis and will naturally offer you the solution. This "solution" will be a new currency called the Amero followed by a new nation called The North American Union. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb970219.htm And for those that think this wont happen, I refer you to the European Union. Nobody should be surprised by this act. After all, the politicians we elect tend to all be members of the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), a body that supports world govt. What did you think would happen when you elect people who are members of the CFR ? And dont think things will change in the coming election...all the remaining candidates are CFR members. The election is a fraud and this country will soon end thanks to the ignorance of its citizens and the political leaders/traitors. And dont think the elite arent prepared for those cowboys that plan on resisting. Right now Haliburton's baby company (KBR) is building concentration / internment camps in the United States in preparation for Marshall Law. Last year alone Congress allocated 385 million dollars for these camps to be constructed. http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/why-is-halliburton-building-internment-camps The govt is even working with local clergy in a program designed by FEMA to get people to submit to Marshall Law by using Romans 13. They have already used this tactic in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qgQ4FtdHm14&feature=related Its time to wake up folks. http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html#chapter3
As I agree with some of your info....i think if we asked the elite banking family of Bear Stearns if they tried to make their stock go from 171 a share to 2. Doubt it. The economy is a cyclical beast which, try as they might, the fed can manipulate some aspects of it, they can only postpone the inevitable recession.
The only other thing I question is this.... If the government really did have plans on raining in all the "cowboys", I think they would have banned, outlawed, and collected all of our guns by now. Heh lets see the Canadian army try to enforce martial law in my community.
As this premise may come to be at some point, I assure you it is farther out than 10 years.
The United States is slated for destruction in 2010. Thats when the SPP will be fully implemented. And it wont be any war that brings the USA down but rather its very own political leaders. http://youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo These political leaders wont act to stop massive waves of illegal immigrants into US territory because they know its pointless with the impending merger between the US, Canada and Mexico. The merger between the United States, Canada, and Mexico has been underway since the NAFTA treaty but has recently accelerated with the illegal SPP treaty of 2005 I say illegal because any treaty must be approved by the US Congress but this one wasnt. Bush calls it an "agreement" and therefore doesnt need approval. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50618 Just recently Canada and the United States agreed to share troops in the event of a crisis. It will be much easier for canadian troops to shoot a US citizen for failing to go along with Marshall Law than for a US soldier to do so. http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=327869 Mexican truck drivers are now free to enter US soil to deliver goods. And with the coming NAFTA Superhighway, mexican trucks will have free reign inside the USA. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20625369/ The US economy and Dollar are being purposely destroyed from within. Recessions dont just happen folks, they are scientifically designed by the Federal Reserve and its elite banking families. http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Federal_Reserve_McFadden.htm Using the age old tactic of heglian principles, the elite are causing the crisis and will naturally offer you the solution. This "solution" will be a new currency called the Amero followed by a new nation called The North American Union. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb970219.htm And for those that think this wont happen, I refer you to the European Union. Nobody should be surprised by this act. After all, the politicians we elect tend to all be members of the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), a body that supports world govt. What did you think would happen when you elect people who are members of the CFR ? And dont think things will change in the coming election...all the remaining candidates are CFR members. The election is a fraud and this country will soon end thanks to the ignorance of its citizens and the political leaders/traitors. And dont think the elite arent prepared for those cowboys that plan on resisting. Right now Haliburton's baby company (KBR) is building concentration / internment camps in the United States in preparation for Marshall Law. Last year alone Congress allocated 385 million dollars for these camps to be constructed. http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/why-is-halliburton-building-internment-camps The govt is even working with local clergy in a program designed by FEMA to get people to submit to Marshall Law by using Romans 13. They have already used this tactic in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. http://youtube.com/watch?v=qgQ4FtdHm14&feature=related Its time to wake up folks. http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html#chapter3
As I agree with some of your info....i think if we asked the elite banking family of Bear Stearns if they tried to make their stock go from 171 a share to 2. Doubt it. The economy is a cyclical beast which, try as they might, the fed can manipulate some aspects of it, they can only postpone the inevitable recession.
The only other thing I question is this.... If the government really did have plans on raining in all the "cowboys", I think they would have banned, outlawed, and collected all of our guns by now. Heh lets see the Canadian army try to enforce martial law in my community.
As this premise may come to be at some point, I assure you it is farther out than 10 years.
JP Morgan ended up buying Bear Stearns for about 10 cents on the dollar. This is what these elite banking families do. This was no accident but rather by design.
Oh and the US Supreme Court just announced theyre taking a case that will review the Second Amendment. It wont surprise me one bit if they interpret the 2nd amendment to mean something other than allowing citizens gun ownership. Its the first time in history that the Supreme court will rule on the meaning of this amendment
Not that it really matters anyway. The coming merger with Mexico and Canada will mean a new Consitution. We will have no rights guaranteed under this new document and the govt will have the right to strip any rights given at any time.
Under our current Constitution, the people are BORN with certain inalienable rights. The govt cant grant us these rights because we are born with them. And the govt cant take them away.
However under the proposed NAU Constitution, its the govt that will grant the people its rights and its the govt that can take them away.
Watch this video, at the 1 min 50 sec mark pay particular attention to what he says about our rights...
who the heck are you?! when did these ideas become yours? werent you born into america not too long ago... werent you then a new life... did some weirdo with patriotic views burn them onto your mind? that idea you stated isnt america... it is something else.... maybe human rights or something your patriotism makes me sick "house the idea of america" freaking disgusting..... righteous would be something to tout.... not your disgusting pervesion of human rights and american way anyway... that idea you were touting is righteous.... not american. ....sick to my stomache with country lovers and lovers of country... or people who pretend not to love a country but tout some idea as an idea of a country... bleh.... ...sorry, brede, I just got emotional : P and couldn't even make a solid point out of it.... sigh..... i need more vocabulary
America isn't a place, rather it's an idea. An idea that one owns one's self, one's labor and time as property. That no other may seek any portion of it as their property without trade. Yet, today, that idea is out of fashion, it is considered old and tired, and some even claim it's impractical. But ideas like these don't really die, they simply find new minds to inhabit. For me it is sad to say that those that claim to be Americans don't house the idea of America anymore. And to me, they are the ones who are dead, not the idea. -- Brede .....................................end qoute
American isn't a place, rather it's an idea. Why are there so many ppl care abt the existance of American
America is a country full of hard working people, some people view america as lazy but we have some of the longest work schedules in the world, fewest vacations.. and whatnot
The reason our country is in a financial crisis is because a lot of people are very greedy and looking out for #1
namely the big corporations, they want to maximize their profits and minimize their work force
so their shareholders can have a better return and their CEOs can drive their ferraris
so theres a 10% tax cut for imports, they'll fire their american workforce and hire chinese labor for a tiny fraction of the cost
all the while people are buying fewer american made goods, companies are having to outsource everything to keep prices competitive
if you go to the store you'll see everything's made in china or somewhere else, mexico
and they can charge much less for that product.. because it costs them so much less to produce it
I'm from Michigan, we don't have to be told our state is in a financial crisis, it's nearly impossible to get work here- people who were tradesmen plumbers, union, used to make 50 dollars an hour are unable to find work..
having to accept a job at lowes for 9.50 an hour.. because contractors hire illegal aliens to do the same job(shoddily) for 5 dollars an hour..
our automotive manfacturers minimized their work force in a short period of time to try and keep up with other countries, they outsourced a lot of their labor and production which resulted in 67000 automotive jobs lost, thats however many jobs that need to be replaced... so we have an overabundance of unemployed people looking for work, an overabundance of people on unemployment, jobs are impossible to find..
and I'm sure its like this in other areas of the nation as well
Gas is up to $3.40 a gallon where i live may be more or less for you but some of us have to travel more than 20 miles to work every day and that's a little bite out of our paychecks whereas the oil companies are enjoying record profits
i know very little about the economics involved in the housing slump so
people took out mortgages based on an adjustable rate which was very much a scam
in my humble opinion as these homeowners would end up paying for the rest of their lives
a lot of people were defaulting and banks were losing money as housing prices plummeted
i guess i foresaw this years ago when it seemed like housing prices couldnt go up anymore
they will have nothing to do but fall.. because it's really a buyer's market not a seller's market as it was advertised oh so many times on tv
people just realized hell I'm not paying 3/4 of a million dollars for this crack house in the middle of Phoenix I'll move somewhere else and get a nice house for 250,000 dollars
and the so called "Demand" as it seemed was weakened
what we need is ..
a president who isn't a crook(see Barack Obama)
weakening of NAFTA, weakening trade with China
imposing an extra 10% tariff for outsourcing labor and importing goods
and giving a 15% tax break to companies who hire legal american citizens
imposing HARSH penalties like loss of business license to companies who repeatedly hire undocumented workers
end this pointless war and instead use the billions of dollars to invest in research for solar/hydro/geothermal/hydrogen energy
install a few hundred square miles of grids of solar power in the mojave/sonoran desert
limit our use of fossil fuels to planes, military vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks, police cruisers and trucking companies
i ran out of thought on this topic so I'll leave it as that
I hear things are pretty bad in Michigan now as well. Look to blame Lansing, GM and Ford for that fine mess you are in. In microecon, we reviewed efficiency numbers from all of the automakers, and it is rather shameful how ineffiecient and poorly ran our automotive sectors have been here in the US, especially Ford. We are now only beginning to catch up to Japan and the US automakers got what they deserve It is too bad Michigan is where it is at today, but that is what happens when you build your state's economy around a product that is inferior in every way to imported goods.
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America is dead......It died long ago. The orginal idea has been overwritten so as our
laws and our freedoms, they're tweaked but not to everyone's benefit.
Frodus, I hope (for the sake of the world) that you're right. But if you look at history as a whole, the default position is China at the top. The western worlds power is a recent phenomenon.
I should have explained my self better...but this is what mean its just a matter of time.
TONGREN, China — Protests spread from Tibet into three neighboring provinces Sunday as Tibetans defied a Chinese government crackdown, while the Dalai Lama decried what he called the "cultural genocide" taking place in his homeland.
Demonstrations widened to Tibetan communities in Sichuan, Qinghai and Gansu provinces, forcing authorities to mobilize security forces across a broad expanse of western China.
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In Tongren, riot police sent to prevent protests set off tensions when they took up positions outside a monastery. Dozens of monks, defying a directive not to gather in groups, marched to a hill where they set off fireworks and burned incense in what one monk said was a protest, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene.
In a sign that authorities were preparing for trouble, AP and other foreign journalists were ordered out of the Tibetan parts of Gansu and Qinghai provinces by police who told them it was for their "safety."
Meanwhile, police in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, searched buildings as a Monday deadline loomed for people who took part in a violent anti-Chinese uprising last week to surrender or face severe punishment.
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The green house effect is dangerous, more dangerous is the bio-fuel BS
Honestly I dont know but i can tell u this America is on the same path as South Africa one of these days u will sit with a communist government and everything will go to shit . Just look at your police , fire and medical departments are all socialised at the moment. America is following the same route with gun laws as South Africa Guess what violent crime is gonna triple 6 months after inception of the law. I think in ten years there will be one world order (Reighn of the anti-christ) . U all bitch and moan about how many soldiers died in Iraq war wake up people , in South africa more people die of violent crime every year than in the whole iraq war .
if im not mistaken bio-fuel is a user friendly.
America is just going through some hard times. We will pull out, just like we did in the past. Doom and gloom is all I hear from most of you. We just have to hang tight and do the best we can.
BTW....We dont need a president like Obama. He will ruin us. No experience, plus he is a closet bigot. Check out his 20 year Pastor, that is his mentor, baptized him and married him. Obama is a good orator, nothing else. He should just go away.
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Bio fuels have their merits... But not many. They're not sufficient to replace fossil fuels and all they do is take up precious agricultural soil (which is becoming rarer by the day).
We don't need that bio fuel crap. There are many other ways to get rid of fossil fuels.
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The US economy was stagnant under Carter, mostly due to the oil crisis. It wasn’t until the early 80’s under Reagan that the economy really went south. 81-83 were the worst years economically since the great depression, and the middle class suffered badly through the 80’s. Currently economics and politics are very much 80’s lite.
Well, in my young American life... I think that we will exists for a lot longer than 10 years. There has yet to be a war that we have lost, except possible the Vietnam War. Even that, we did not lose, but rather withdrew our troops and let the Vietnamese brawl themselves.
Ones loses a military conflict when one is unable to fulfill its goals. Which was the case in the Vietnam war.
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Ones loses a military conflict when one is unable to fulfill its goals. Which was the case in the Vietnam war.
That could be argued that we did or did not accomplish our task in Vietnam. Although the communists did come out victorious, our goals were changed during the war. We wanted to get out of there as soon as possible, so our goal then was to train the south Vietnamese to fight for themselves. We accomplished that, but they still got their asses kicked hard.
The US economy was stagnant under Carter, mostly due to the oil crisis. It wasn’t until the early 80’s under Reagan that the economy really went south. 81-83 were the worst years economically since the great depression, and the middle class suffered badly through the 80’s. Currently economics and politics are very much 80’s lite.
very little does a pres deal with things he has started. Most likely what happend under Regan started with Carter, it was like pushig a ball down a hill, it wont stop till it hits bottom and it didnt hit bottom till Regan.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
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this is a very stupid thread ...... if the US did fail, the rest of the world would be in the shitter, as far as the economy goes. China would lose over half their exports, if the USA did break down and get destroyed there would be a big depression.
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The United States is slated for destruction in 2010. Thats when the SPP will be fully implemented. And it wont be any war that brings the USA down but rather its very own political leaders.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
These political leaders wont act to stop massive waves of illegal immigrants into US territory because they know its pointless with the impending merger between the US, Canada and Mexico.
The merger between the United States, Canada, and Mexico has been underway since the NAFTA treaty but has recently accelerated with the illegal SPP treaty of 2005 I say illegal because any treaty must be approved by the US Congress but this one wasnt. Bush calls it an "agreement" and therefore doesnt need approval.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50618
Just recently Canada and the United States agreed to share troops in the event of a crisis. It will be much easier for canadian troops to shoot a US citizen for failing to go along with Marshall Law than for a US soldier to do so.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=327869
Mexican truck drivers are now free to enter US soil to deliver goods. And with the coming NAFTA Superhighway, mexican trucks will have free reign inside the USA.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20625369/
The US economy and Dollar are being purposely destroyed from within. Recessions dont just happen folks, they are scientifically designed by the Federal Reserve and its elite banking families.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Federal_Reserve_McFadden.htm
Using the age old tactic of heglian principles, the elite are causing the crisis and will naturally offer you the solution. This "solution" will be a new currency called the Amero followed by a new nation called The North American Union.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb970219.htm
And for those that think this wont happen, I refer you to the European Union.
Nobody should be surprised by this act. After all, the politicians we elect tend to all be members of the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), a body that supports world govt. What did you think would happen when you elect people who are members of the CFR ? And dont think things will change in the coming election...all the remaining candidates are CFR members. The election is a fraud and this country will soon end thanks to the ignorance of its citizens and the political leaders/traitors.
And dont think the elite arent prepared for those cowboys that plan on resisting. Right now Haliburton's baby company (KBR) is building concentration / internment camps in the United States in preparation for Marshall Law. Last year alone Congress allocated 385 million dollars for these camps to be constructed.
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/why-is-halliburton-building-internment-camps
The govt is even working with local clergy in a program designed by FEMA to get people to submit to Marshall Law by using Romans 13. They have already used this tactic in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qgQ4FtdHm14&feature=related
Its time to wake up folks.
http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html#chapter3
The only other thing I question is this.... If the government really did have plans on raining in all the "cowboys", I think they would have banned, outlawed, and collected all of our guns by now. Heh lets see the Canadian army try to enforce martial law in my community.
As this premise may come to be at some point, I assure you it is farther out than 10 years.
As I agree with some of your info....i think if we asked the elite banking family of Bear Stearns if they tried to make their stock go from 171 a share to 2. Doubt it. The economy is a cyclical beast which, try as they might, the fed can manipulate some aspects of it, they can only postpone the inevitable recession.The only other thing I question is this.... If the government really did have plans on raining in all the "cowboys", I think they would have banned, outlawed, and collected all of our guns by now. Heh lets see the Canadian army try to enforce martial law in my community.
As this premise may come to be at some point, I assure you it is farther out than 10 years.
JP Morgan ended up buying Bear Stearns for about 10 cents on the dollar. This is what these elite banking families do. This was no accident but rather by design.
Oh and the US Supreme Court just announced theyre taking a case that will review the Second Amendment. It wont surprise me one bit if they interpret the 2nd amendment to mean something other than allowing citizens gun ownership. Its the first time in history that the Supreme court will rule on the meaning of this amendment
Not that it really matters anyway. The coming merger with Mexico and Canada will mean a new Consitution. We will have no rights guaranteed under this new document and the govt will have the right to strip any rights given at any time.
Under our current Constitution, the people are BORN with certain inalienable rights. The govt cant grant us these rights because we are born with them. And the govt cant take them away.
However under the proposed NAU Constitution, its the govt that will grant the people its rights and its the govt that can take them away.
Watch this video, at the 1 min 50 sec mark pay particular attention to what he says about our rights...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6M5GK9Na8KU
Just ask europeans how much freedom they have left now under the European Union.
American isn't a place, rather it's an idea. Why are there so many ppl care abt the existance of American
I hear things are pretty bad in Michigan now as well. Look to blame Lansing, GM and Ford for that fine mess you are in. In microecon, we reviewed efficiency numbers from all of the automakers, and it is rather shameful how ineffiecient and poorly ran our automotive sectors have been here in the US, especially Ford. We are now only beginning to catch up to Japan and the US automakers got what they deserve It is too bad Michigan is where it is at today, but that is what happens when you build your state's economy around a product that is inferior in every way to imported goods.