Oh yea, Starflight! That was fun! One of my old favorites was Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back on the AtariST. Like someone who posted earlier, I also still have my Atari 2600 in the closet, still works too, I still dig it out every now and then when I need to dish out some pain on my friends in a good game of Warlords....:)
<----- LOL I just noticed my join date vs. my posts... heheheh... feel like a lurker...
Woot!
Just think, at this rate by 2012 you will have 14* posts!
*7 posts as of this message, just incase he somehow hits 15 in the next few hours/days
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Anyone remember Starflight for PC? I remember that game it was a blast to play, played the heck out of the original wizardry as well (played on a Tandy 1000 ex )
I still have the floppies for both Starflight 1 and Starflight 2, complete with code wheels.
Starflight was awesome, 2, eh... it was ok...
Hrm... wonder if they have an emulated version somehwere...
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Guys, old school players are those that have been playing MMO's for years, not just since the start of WoW lol, at least get that right. We are talking people that were there at the start of the original Uo, EQ, DAoC etc. before WoW was even a twinkle in Blizzards eye.
qft. i dont know if im a oldschool gamer or not., but i used to think d2 was like an mmo. but my first real mmo was shadowbane. so i guess i could be considered old school? but i have been playing games since colecovision and atari. so in theory i guess that makes me really old school.
Originally posted by baff Originally posted by HashBrick
Originally posted by baff
To the guy who thinks WoW isn't Hardcore...... What an absolute cool dude, I want his babies.
Fixed it for you , I know what you ment . Hardcore chess games! Can you jump up and kick someone in the face? Nope, not hardcore then is it. Throwing tantrums doesn't make you hard. It just makes you a sore loser.
My point was there is nothing hardcore about two people sitting on a chair playing a board game, with that reasoning anything could be hardcore. Think I'll go make some hardcore eggs and drink some hardcore OJ while reading my hardcore gamer magazine and itching my balls all hardcore like.
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
Sorry I just didnt like MUD's, I more into the "Bards tale" and Ultima (not online). Speaking of old games do any of you recall playing D & D on intelavison. I would play that game till like 6 in the morning . I also had some strange device that was like a cartredge for me Atari 2600 but it had a wire coming out of the cartredge that went to a tape player. I had 2 games on tape for my 2600. I also got into all the old school D & D games like champions of Krin. Ahhh some good games for the time.
Hardcore chess games! Can you jump up and kick someone in the face? Nope, not hardcore then is it.
Throwing tantrums doesn't make you hard. It just makes you a sore loser.
My point was there is nothing hardcore about two people sitting on a chair playing a board game, with that reasoning anything could be hardcore. Think I'll go make some hardcore eggs and drink some hardcore OJ while reading my hardcore gamer magazine and itching my balls all hardcore like.
That is one of the funniest things I have read on this forum. I actually laughed out loud.
“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”
OP it is great to see people being exclusive and not inclusive in their thinking.
“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”
How about the big step up you made when you got that Atari or Commadore 64 with the tape cassette software...screaming across the internet at between 14-28k baud.
Umm, dude, when the Atari system and the Commodore 64 was out there was no such thing as the Internet. We ran bulletin board systems using dial up connections from our homes. We hade multiple phone lines and pass thrus to route calls into our networked dining rooms, writing the front end of our BBSs from scratch, writing MUDs from scratch. The Internet was well after the beginnings of MMOs. Oh and 28k baud? Back then it was 300, 1200, 2400 baud. (Notice the lack of k). I would have killed to run my BBS off of a 14.4k or 28.8 modem, much less 56k. ANSI FTW
I fireball pk'd my girlfriend in the kitchen yesterday :[ Her eyebrows are still recovering..
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Originally posted by afropuff420 I fireball pk'd my girlfriend in the kitchen yesterday :[ Her eyebrows are still recovering..
Ouch someone's in the dog house.
@MMOman101 - Glad I could brighten your day with a little humor, I'm on a give back spree.
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
I think that most of the gamers you are referring to, are pathological liars. They claim to have done something or experienced something.... when in reality all they did was read up on old material.
MM I'm sure that some may be but just checking the join dates on this site may at least give you a clue
Don't even think that for a minute. Just because someone has been playing for forever does not mean they have been a member fo this forum all that time.
I've not only played on the Commodore 64, played on BBS's and been a long time EQ1 player. I've also done the play-by-mail games that some of the BBS games were based off of, yet I've only been on this forum a short time.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin
How about the big step up you made when you got that Atari or Commadore 64 with the tape cassette software...screaming across the internet at between 14-28k baud.
Umm, dude, when the Atari system and the Commodore 64 was out there was no such thing as the Internet. We ran bulletin board systems using dial up connections from our homes. We hade multiple phone lines and pass thrus to route calls into our networked dining rooms, writing the front end of our BBSs from scratch, writing MUDs from scratch. The Internet was well after the beginnings of MMOs. Oh and 28k baud? Back then it was 300, 1200, 2400 baud. (Notice the lack of k). I would have killed to run my BBS off of a 14.4k or 28.8 modem, much less 56k. ANSI FTW
There was no 14.4k or 28.8k (notice kilobytes?) in the 80s. In 1985, IIRC, it was <300 baud (the modems then were uber too, some of the nice ones had a LED printout of connection speeds and if the handshake was accepted or not. Tech relative spent over $200 for his). I couldn't afford online access even with the 286, but looked over the shoulder of my tech relative (who's been a system/network builder since 1985), and it was a very sparse experience, more so than usenet before the 100000001 spammers.
There's many kids here trying to pass as Old Skool, when all the internet was to the masses pre-GeNIE (not AOL guys, GeNIE) was BBSes. You hoped to connect to a local one, because like with my tech relative if you didn't, your phone bill will be $300/mon. All because a typical bitmap image (JPEG wasn't even created yet, let alone GIFs) took 45 minutes to download -- and what was mostly traded then was car pics, believe it or not. ASCII art was the norm to compensate, and many a porn shot created that way!
He was one of the original AOL subscribers even (having the luxury of having his first name as a nick). Today, he's has zero time to play games or even be online (which I can say many of the tech heads can attest too -- 12hr work days precludes it). I only really came online after 1998, when it became affordable both parts wise to build an internet computer, and the graphical browser helped surf the wilderness that was once keyboarded BBSes. But I remember the heady days of 80s computing, where maybe, just maybe 1 in 10 even cared to be bothered with it (none of my friends even had a computer, for example, until the same late 1990s -- cars/music/movies were more important).
I guess it depends on which sort of School we're talking about: MMO's and their ancestors, computer games, or video games in general.
The first MMO I played was EQ1 not long after the Velious expansion came out, so I was hardly part of the original MMO crowd. But if you're talking its ancestors: MU*s (MUDs, MUSHes, and the like), then I started with those in 1994, playing Midnight Sun MUD and then AmberMUSH. In fact, I was late to the MMO table *because* I was still playing a MUSH (Elendor) when they started to become popular.
For computer games: I remember Oregon Trail when it came out on the Apple II+, and before that, playing some horrible games on C-64, Vic-20, and before that on a P.E.T. at school.
Video games... heh. I played the TV tennis/hockey/whatever game on my next-door neighbor's TV, complete with paddles and switches that changed the game from "tennis" to "hockey". I played Space Invaders, and a bit later Asteriods, Sea Wolf, Warzone, Galaxian, etc. I just happened to be born at the right time to start at the beginning when I was myself just starting.
So, yeah, I consider myself as old-school as you can get. I consider myself part of a certain crowd of people, not as somehow individually special because I happened to be born at the right time. I've watched things evolve from the beginning, right at the dawn of the personal computer.
No, I don't think that people nowadays, who are relatively new to gaming, can really relate to what things were like back then. It was a different era, and eventually the same will be said about the way things are now, too. That's how life is. I don't think of it as exculsionary, but rather just part of life, and not something to get upset about.
Seriously. Gamers who've played since WoW but think they know everything there is to know about the industry. Act like they've played all the games that have ever came out because they logged in once 8 years after the game went gold. You weren't there when it came out; therefore, please STFU about game mechanics you've never experienced. Housing is NOT a hardcore only activity. Raiding is NOT a hardcore only activity. Crafting as a profession is NOT a hardcore activity. Developers are making multiplayer versions of single player games and calling them MMOs because that's what the new gamers want; NOT because it's what is casual friendly. If you weren't there to play within at least the first six months of a game, just STFU, sit back, and let the old schoolers discuss old school sh**. Don't talk like you've played it when it was prime. Cause we all know you didn't.
See thats why i liked to play lineage 2 from the start , open pvp is win in theese situation when you have some smartass , then find him in the game and shut him up
but yea players like that give me a headache, pathological liars , sigh. i started my self back in the early days of gaming so i feel you on that subject.
Specially when it came to SWG and CU / NGE and people arrived to the game and they think their "all that" i mean come on you dont know shit kiddo you werent here.
I guess it depends on which sort of School we're talking about: MMO's and their ancestors, computer games, or video games in general. The first MMO I played was EQ1 not long after the Velious expansion came out, so I was hardly part of the original MMO crowd. But if you're talking its ancestors: MU*s (MUDs, MUSHes, and the like), then I started with those in 1994, playing Midnight Sun MUD and then AmberMUSH. In fact, I was late to the MMO table *because* I was still playing a MUSH (Elendor) when they started to become popular. For computer games: I remember Oregon Trail when it came out on the Apple II+, and before that, playing some horrible games on C-64, Vic-20, and before that on a P.E.T. at school. Video games... heh. I played the TV tennis/hockey/whatever game on my next-door neighbor's TV, complete with paddles and switches that changed the game from "tennis" to "hockey". I played Space Invaders, and a bit later Asteriods, Sea Wolf, Warzone, Galaxian, etc. I just happened to be born at the right time to start at the beginning when I was myself just starting. So, yeah, I consider myself as old-school as you can get. I consider myself part of a certain crowd of people, not as somehow individually special because I happened to be born at the right time. I've watched things evolve from the beginning, right at the dawn of the personal computer. No, I don't think that people nowadays, who are relatively new to gaming, can really relate to what things were like back then. It was a different era, and eventually the same will be said about the way things are now, too. That's how life is. I don't think of it as exculsionary, but rather just part of life, and not something to get upset about.
Well lets put it in another view, remember when WoW launched , it had a bunch of fps gamers roll over and start playing MMO games as their primary , thoose are some of the people that think they are the bomb diggity and know everything about MMO's , see thoose FPS gamers can go back to the hole they came from that they crawled out of in 05
I like FPS games well enough, but I don't see where someone who excells in them somehow knows jack about MMOs. I agree that they're just talking out of their hind portions. Many people want to sound the "been there and done that" horn even when they're mostly clueless. I suppose the guys you're talking about are like that.
I like FPS games well enough, but I don't see where someone who excells in them somehow knows jack about MMOs. I agree that they're just talking out of their hind portions. Many people want to sound the "been there and done that" horn even when they're mostly clueless. I suppose the guys you're talking about are like that.
Yea thats some of them , and some of them played in the Nihilum EU wow guild , i know a couple of them were "pro" cs gamers before this and all they had in mind 24/7 was CS practice and now they think their the master of all trades in MMO's , right okay.
That kinda arrogance i despise, but again thats what you can expect from such people.
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Fixed it for you
, I know what you ment 
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Hardcore chess games! Can you jump up and kick someone in the face? Nope, not hardcore then is it.
Throwing tantrums doesn't make you hard. It just makes you a sore loser.
Anyone remember Starflight for PC?
I remember that game it was a blast to play, played the heck out of the original wizardry as well (played on a Tandy 1000 ex )
Oh yea, Starflight! That was fun! One of my old favorites was Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back on the AtariST. Like someone who posted earlier, I also still have my Atari 2600 in the closet, still works too, I still dig it out every now and then when I need to dish out some pain on my friends in a good game of Warlords....:)
<----- LOL I just noticed my join date vs. my posts... heheheh... feel like a lurker...
Just think, at this rate by 2012 you will have 14* posts!
*7 posts as of this message, just incase he somehow hits 15 in the next few hours/days
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Starflight was awesome, 2, eh... it was ok...
Hrm... wonder if they have an emulated version somehwere...
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
qft. i dont know if im a oldschool gamer or not., but i used to think d2 was like an mmo. but my first real mmo was shadowbane. so i guess i could be considered old school? but i have been playing games since colecovision and atari. so in theory i guess that makes me really old school.
Old school is playing Akalabeth when it came out. Every one else is a newb!
Enjoy.. Noobs
Yours in Akalabeth Plasma,
Star*Dagger
Fixed it for you
Hardcore chess games! Can you jump up and kick someone in the face? Nope, not hardcore then is it.
Throwing tantrums doesn't make you hard. It just makes you a sore loser.
My point was there is nothing hardcore about two people sitting on a chair playing a board game, with that reasoning anything could be hardcore. Think I'll go make some hardcore eggs and drink some hardcore OJ while reading my hardcore gamer magazine and itching my balls all hardcore like.
Sorry I just didnt like MUD's, I more into the "Bards tale" and Ultima (not online). Speaking of old games do any of you recall playing D & D on intelavison. I would play that game till like 6 in the morning . I also had some strange device that was like a cartredge for me Atari 2600 but it had a wire coming out of the cartredge that went to a tape player. I had 2 games on tape for my 2600. I also got into all the old school D & D games like champions of Krin. Ahhh some good games for the time.
Fixed it for you
Hardcore chess games! Can you jump up and kick someone in the face? Nope, not hardcore then is it.
Throwing tantrums doesn't make you hard. It just makes you a sore loser.
My point was there is nothing hardcore about two people sitting on a chair playing a board game, with that reasoning anything could be hardcore. Think I'll go make some hardcore eggs and drink some hardcore OJ while reading my hardcore gamer magazine and itching my balls all hardcore like.
That is one of the funniest things I have read on this forum. I actually laughed out loud.
--John Ruskin
OP it is great to see people being exclusive and not inclusive in their thinking.
--John Ruskin
I fireball pk'd my girlfriend in the kitchen yesterday :[ Her eyebrows are still recovering..
Umm, dude, when the Atari system and the Commodore 64 was out there was no such thing as the Internet. We ran bulletin board systems using dial up connections from our homes. We hade multiple phone lines and pass thrus to route calls into our networked dining rooms, writing the front end of our BBSs from scratch, writing MUDs from scratch. The Internet was well after the beginnings of MMOs. Oh and 28k baud? Back then it was 300, 1200, 2400 baud. (Notice the lack of k). I would have killed to run my BBS off of a 14.4k or 28.8 modem, much less 56k. ANSI FTW
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Ouch someone's in the dog house.
@MMOman101 - Glad I could brighten your day with a little humor, I'm on a give back spree.
MM I'm sure that some may be but just checking the join dates on this site may at least give you a clue
Don't even think that for a minute. Just because someone has been playing for forever does not mean they have been a member fo this forum all that time.
I've not only played on the Commodore 64, played on BBS's and been a long time EQ1 player. I've also done the play-by-mail games that some of the BBS games were based off of, yet I've only been on this forum a short time.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
i played that AD&D mmorpg game on AOL2.0, when it cost $2 an hour or something.. how old school is that?
Umm, dude, when the Atari system and the Commodore 64 was out there was no such thing as the Internet. We ran bulletin board systems using dial up connections from our homes. We hade multiple phone lines and pass thrus to route calls into our networked dining rooms, writing the front end of our BBSs from scratch, writing MUDs from scratch. The Internet was well after the beginnings of MMOs. Oh and 28k baud? Back then it was 300, 1200, 2400 baud. (Notice the lack of k). I would have killed to run my BBS off of a 14.4k or 28.8 modem, much less 56k. ANSI FTW
There was no 14.4k or 28.8k (notice kilobytes?) in the 80s. In 1985, IIRC, it was <300 baud (the modems then were uber too, some of the nice ones had a LED printout of connection speeds and if the handshake was accepted or not. Tech relative spent over $200 for his). I couldn't afford online access even with the 286, but looked over the shoulder of my tech relative (who's been a system/network builder since 1985), and it was a very sparse experience, more so than usenet before the 100000001 spammers.
There's many kids here trying to pass as Old Skool, when all the internet was to the masses pre-GeNIE (not AOL guys, GeNIE) was BBSes. You hoped to connect to a local one, because like with my tech relative if you didn't, your phone bill will be $300/mon. All because a typical bitmap image (JPEG wasn't even created yet, let alone GIFs) took 45 minutes to download -- and what was mostly traded then was car pics, believe it or not. ASCII art was the norm to compensate, and many a porn shot created that way!
He was one of the original AOL subscribers even (having the luxury of having his first name as a nick). Today, he's has zero time to play games or even be online (which I can say many of the tech heads can attest too -- 12hr work days precludes it). I only really came online after 1998, when it became affordable both parts wise to build an internet computer, and the graphical browser helped surf the wilderness that was once keyboarded BBSes. But I remember the heady days of 80s computing, where maybe, just maybe 1 in 10 even cared to be bothered with it (none of my friends even had a computer, for example, until the same late 1990s -- cars/music/movies were more important).
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I guess it depends on which sort of School we're talking about: MMO's and their ancestors, computer games, or video games in general.
The first MMO I played was EQ1 not long after the Velious expansion came out, so I was hardly part of the original MMO crowd. But if you're talking its ancestors: MU*s (MUDs, MUSHes, and the like), then I started with those in 1994, playing Midnight Sun MUD and then AmberMUSH. In fact, I was late to the MMO table *because* I was still playing a MUSH (Elendor) when they started to become popular.
For computer games: I remember Oregon Trail when it came out on the Apple II+, and before that, playing some horrible games on C-64, Vic-20, and before that on a P.E.T. at school.
Video games... heh. I played the TV tennis/hockey/whatever game on my next-door neighbor's TV, complete with paddles and switches that changed the game from "tennis" to "hockey". I played Space Invaders, and a bit later Asteriods, Sea Wolf, Warzone, Galaxian, etc. I just happened to be born at the right time to start at the beginning when I was myself just starting.
So, yeah, I consider myself as old-school as you can get. I consider myself part of a certain crowd of people, not as somehow individually special because I happened to be born at the right time. I've watched things evolve from the beginning, right at the dawn of the personal computer.
No, I don't think that people nowadays, who are relatively new to gaming, can really relate to what things were like back then. It was a different era, and eventually the same will be said about the way things are now, too. That's how life is. I don't think of it as exculsionary, but rather just part of life, and not something to get upset about.
See thats why i liked to play lineage 2 from the start , open pvp is win in theese situation when you have some smartass , then find him in the game and shut him up
but yea players like that give me a headache, pathological liars , sigh. i started my self back in the early days of gaming so i feel you on that subject.
Specially when it came to SWG and CU / NGE and people arrived to the game and they think their "all that" i mean come on you dont know shit kiddo you werent here.
List of SOE lies
Well lets put it in another view, remember when WoW launched , it had a bunch of fps gamers roll over and start playing MMO games as their primary , thoose are some of the people that think they are the bomb diggity and know everything about MMO's , see thoose FPS gamers can go back to the hole they came from that they crawled out of in 05
List of SOE lies
I like FPS games well enough, but I don't see where someone who excells in them somehow knows jack about MMOs. I agree that they're just talking out of their hind portions. Many people want to sound the "been there and done that" horn even when they're mostly clueless. I suppose the guys you're talking about are like that.
Yea thats some of them , and some of them played in the Nihilum EU wow guild , i know a couple of them were "pro" cs gamers before this and all they had in mind 24/7 was CS practice and now they think their the master of all trades in MMO's , right okay.
That kinda arrogance i despise, but again thats what you can expect from such people.
List of SOE lies
