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Jesse Ventura, 9/11 reality check, FOX "news"

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  • RajaiRajai Member UncommonPosts: 331



    The Pournelle Chart, so much more helpful

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  • DailyBuzzDailyBuzz Member Posts: 2,306

    Ummm, the Bush administration has been a failure of epic proportions. Do you honestly believe they are clever enough to have pulled off the attacks and the cover-up this flawlessly? Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt their greed at all. I only doubt their competence to every degree.

  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200
    Originally posted by DailyBuzz


    Ummm, the Bush administration has been a failure of epic proportions. Do you honestly believe they are clever enough to have pulled off the attacks and the cover-up this flawlessly? Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt their greed at all. I only doubt their competence to every degree.

    Who said anything about the Bush administration? Wheres the evidence of that?  Regardless, don't forget that old saying: The dumber they think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them.  Meaning: Make them think you're too dumb to be a threat, and you can accomplish your objective before they even figure out what you are capable of.

  • DailyBuzzDailyBuzz Member Posts: 2,306
    Originally posted by Blomi


    Who said anything about the Bush administration? Wheres the evidence of that? 
    Who else would have benefited from the attack? I see no gains for anyone aside from Bush and his cronies. Where's the evidence to contradict anything other than hijacked planes targeting specific landmarks?
    Regardless, don't forget that old saying: The dumber they think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them.  Meaning: Make them think you're too dumb to be a threat, and you can accomplish your objective before they even figure out what you are capable of.
    If idiocy is their illusion, I'm buying it hook, line, and sinker.

     

  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128

    Originally posted by Blomi

    Originally posted by DailyBuzz


    Ummm, the Bush administration has been a failure of epic proportions. Do you honestly believe they are clever enough to have pulled off the attacks and the cover-up this flawlessly? Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt their greed at all. I only doubt their competence to every degree.

    Who said anything about the Bush administration? Wheres the evidence of that?  Regardless, don't forget that old saying: The dumber they think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them.  Meaning: Make them think you're too dumb to be a threat, and you can accomplish your objective before they even figure out what you are capable of.

    There are many... many better ways to get into Iraq than bombing their own people and pinning it on somebody completely different from who they want to target.

    There was an attack on America and they milked it for what they could. To pull something off like that and not have one person leak the whole thing seems incredibly unlikely.

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  • ThelastwaaghThelastwaagh Member Posts: 92

    There is no mystery over what happened on 9/11,  you conspiracy nut jobs need to just move on and find something else to bitch and moan about.  Seriously you’re just being pathetic.  There’s no possible way that the government could pull off a conspiracy as big as the one you allege occurred.   I'm not even going to try to argue with you about the specifics of what occurred because unlike you I know that I’m not qualified to do so. If you actually want to read some of the truth (<----look it’s your pet word) http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html here it is. If you prefer comedy then there's this one  http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job.html                               Below I’ve constructed a short list of some of the old classics which could help you choose the next big "conspiracy" (look I can put things in quotes too).

    Earth is really flat

    UFO captured crashed at Roswell /Area 51

    Moon landing fake

    Aliens built the pyramids.

    Freemasons IlluminatiJews control everything.

    Government invented and is purposely spreading aids.

    JFK Assassination Theories.

    Real AEMRO Coins minted.

    ID Card/Chip.

    Bohemian Grove, satanic/pagan/world control.

    Key loggers on ever computer. (why would they need this when they have programs that monitor traffic though ISP’s?).

    Cropcircles.

    And the new one that you guys should embrace…?

    Here it is it’s ….

    The Government is feeding the public crazy conspiracy theories and then clumsily denying them to create the illusion that there might be truth in them. The government  feeds the public these theories to suppress the real truth, The truth is that while the people in government weld enormous power and make great deals of money they are scared , scared of us! They are scared of the competition that we might pose if we ever managed to pull our flabby bodies out of our moms basements, stop running up the electric bill, and maybe get some education or a job.  This is why they continue to feed us these lies! 

     

    "Just as it's wrong to find complicated conspiracy where simple incompetence will explain everything, it's also wrong to presume evil motives where simple mental retardation may be the explanation."    ---David Wong

    -for the overmind.

  • De4th_M0nKeeDe4th_M0nKee Member Posts: 203

    This conspiracy bullshit is about big money, but not oil money. It's about all the books, videos, conventions and mock-up 3D maps for sale that PROVE that it wasn't planes...or if it was, there were bombs inside...or maybe it wasn't bombs, but the Government is to blame...I think. Whatever, just gimme the cash and get lost.

     

    Oh. I have pictures of the Grassy Knoll also...1/2 price.

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  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    Originally posted by DailyBuzz
    If idiocy is their illusion, I'm buying it hook, line, and sinker.

    "They misunderestimated me" - George W. Bush

     

  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128

     

    Originally posted by Blomi


    The stunning lack of intellect on display here continues to amaze me.  Just thought you should know.

     

     

    Originally posted by Blomi

    The questions still stand.  Deny them, make fun of them, create elaborate logical loops to discredit them in your own mind.  Whatever.  There they stand, still.

    Blomi, how about rather than simply mocking the several people who are giving you legitimate, sourced answers with no logical loops what so ever, you respond to them with your sources of information or questions.

     

    I think you should tell us these "questions that haven't been answered", or how the answers we have given such as the one citing research by structural engineers is some how denying your questions.

    You've made no solid claims. You've only given us crap such as "your all playing games in your heads", meanwhile we've given you solid evidence to counter every claim made on this post.

    If your going to argue - then argue, but what you doing right now is just insulting people which is a waste of all out time.

     

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  • goneglockingoneglockin Member UncommonPosts: 706

    If I had several billion dollars I could waste- I'd rebuild and refurnish one of the twin towers identically and then fly a plane into it via remote control... just to see all the stupid expressions on people's faces when it didn't collapse inside of a couple hours, into it's own footprint, or even collapse at all.

     

    Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.

  • DailyBuzzDailyBuzz Member Posts: 2,306

    Originally posted by Blomi


     
    Originally posted by DailyBuzz
    If idiocy is their illusion, I'm buying it hook, line, and sinker.

     

    "They misunderestimated me" - George W. Bush

     

    Is this statement designed to prove my point? Or, are you insinuating that this statement was a guise to delude society as to his true superior intellect? If the latter is the case, your conspiracy theory disposition has become pathological.
  • admriker4admriker4 Member Posts: 1,070

    Originally posted by Blomi


    The stunning lack of intellect on display here continues to amaze me.  Just thought you should know.
    dont waste your time here Blomi. People like the ones here are never going to believe our goverment is capable of murdering its own citizens. They dont know about the Gulf of Tonkin incident. They dont know about Operation Northwood.

    And like the one poster said, he doesnt care.

    Its like trying to convince a Bipolar person that they need their meds while theyre in a manic state.

    These people arent just misinformed, theyre blinded by infotainment. Just forget them, theyre a lost cause.

    Rest assured though that there are people well aware of who really runs this planet and how they continue to use False Flag operations to manipulate the masses with fear.

    oh and to the person who made the sarcastic post about them using planes to divert us while they blew the buildings up....actually it wasnt a diversion. Its called The Shock Doctrine. It was used with the JFK murder and it was used on 9-11.

    this video if you have the courage and patience to watch explains why your mind isnt open to so-called conspiracy theories

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kieyjfZDUIc

  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939

    Are people that believe these conspiracy theories (even in the face of experts refuting the information) suffering from a mental illness or is it just plain stupidity? 

    It must be some type of illness making them incapable of living a normal life.  I don't understand this unhealthy obsession with such obvious fantasy. 

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  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695

    Originally posted by Blomi


    The stunning lack of intellect on display here continues to amaze me.  Just thought you should know.
    We all just bow down to your superior intellect.  I'm so glad you decided to grace us with your time and effort into such wonderfully insightful posts.

     

    However, since your writing and investigative journalism skills are most obviously beyond us mere mortals, I suggest the next field of study be Physics, Math, and Engineering.  It might help with some more insight for the rest of us to respond to your posts concerning something you claim defies physics.  I know the equations are difficult for most, but you won't have any trouble with the real math behind Newton's Laws will you?

  • RajaiRajai Member UncommonPosts: 331

    Oh, no I'd just rather believe the government tells me the truth every day

    Because you know they are politicians.



    If there was no clear motive, no war in Iraq, no billions of taxpayer dollars wasted, no no-bid contracts, we went in-killed Saddam- and appointed a new dictator, left and instead of funding a war position soldiers in our cities, airports, borders, shipyards etc..

    I'd drop it.

    But however wacky a conspiracy theory is there's always this one that seems more than plausible under given evidence.



    About 3000 people died on september 11th in the twin towers and the pentagon.. the media had a field day, we felt invaded and of course every american's instinct was fight back.. 3000 people isn't a lot compared to the amount that die every day of hunger and in the midst of everyone's patriotic feelings the president was able to declare a war and congress voted heavily for war



    the problem with all of this is all of the terrorists were known, france gave us the information in January... we might not have known when or with what they were going to attack but we knew it was going to involve planes.. in june pilots lost the privledge to carry handguns, in september they were allowed to buy airplane tickets..

    so 4 guys with boxcutters and very poor flight training/experience took over a 747 loaded with people and piloted it into a building slightly wider than itself going over 500 miles per hour..



    So how do you know these people weren't trained and briefed by the CIA and their families didn't recieve american taxpayer money? it's not like our government couldn't find willing and able people willing to kill in the name of allah if they really wanted to..



    and for the minimal cost a war that's going to cost us over a trillion dollars...

    Read into Project Northwoods, it's really REALLY similar.. i linked it a few pages back...

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