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Please help this n00b find a perfect MMORPG
Ratty
Member Posts: 3
Hi, fellow roleplayers. I need help with a quest of tremendous importance. Namely, I'm quite new to MMO(RP)Gs. In fact, I'm so new I have yet to purchase my first. I was hoping the generous and knowledgeable folk on this forum might provide me with insight needed to make a perfect purchase. To make things easier for you, I will list some features and characteristics I'm looking for in my game.
1) A mature, courteous community, where people are outgoing, English-speaking and older than 14 years. English may not be my native tongue, but I nonetheless find the l337 m0r0nsp33k (prevalent on most online game servers) simply atrocious.
2) ROLE PLAYING! Nothing kills my immersion and gaming experience like power gaming, dull experience grinding and morons who can't write a coherent sentence, but have the audacity to make snide remarks about my "n00b 1t4mZ LOL!!!11". Mind you, I'm not expecting to find an MMORPG where all 10,000 players have a PhD in role playing - a good, isolated RP community or a decently populated RP shard are acceptable. MUDs, however, are not.
3) Not too laggy. Namely, most of the time I'm stuck with a 64k ISDN connection (this is Croatia, so gimme a break) with DSL/cable still in foreseeable future, so I'm looking for a game that will run at least halfway decent on my crappy connection. I don't mind an occasional slowdown (after a few months of Diablo II, you develop natural resistance to it), but I don't want my gameplay to look like Anna Nicole Smith racing a three-legged turtle (if you've seen Anna Nicole Smith lately, you know what I mean).
That about covers it - I provided specifications, and all you need to do is provide a few titles. Now get to it!
Catch a man a fish, and you can sell it to him. Teach a man how to fish, and you ruin a wonderful business opportunity. -- Karl Marx
Catch a man a fish, and you can sell it to him. Teach a man how to fish, and you ruin a wonderful business opportunity. -- Karl Marx
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The game your looking for doesnt quite exist yet. Although http://www.realmserver.com/ may suit your style.
EQ2 Qeynos Guild- http://eq2imperium.proboards15.com/index.cgi
You didnt specify what kind of world do you like, scifi/fantasy or something different.
There are quite much games out there that fits that.. The roleplaying is the most difficult one.
EVE Online: can be played with not-so-good connection, has mature community and does have some roleplaying elements in it.
DAOC: doesnt have roleplaying, can easily have inmature people playing.
Thats all that I have played..
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Roleplaying is near dead in almost any major MMO's. Even on the roleplay servers it seems nonexistant.
1. I think you'l find alot of immature brats in just about any game. For the most part, the DAoC community is somewhat nice especially in guilds.
2. City of Heroes can be roleplayed fairly easily. Also SWG perhaps. Has alot of "fluff".
3. Most games have european versions(the large ones anyways)so shouldnt be to big a problem. I think you should be a bit more specific though, like theme, atmosphere, gfx etc..
The only solution is to play on an RP-enforced Ultima Online freeshard. You can check out a list at http://www.gamesites200.com and find a shard that suits you, but beware of The Abyss, for it is dull. You need to buy the game, or perhaps there is a download of The Second Age from their website, I'm not sure.
The graphics aren't too advanced, so if you want fancy 3D you'll have to go elsewhere (allthough Iris makes it slightly 3D).
Oh, and WHAT is wrong with being fourteen!?
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Im not actaully against RPing i just find it gay to RP in the way mmorpgs are built today.
EQ2 Qeynos Guild- http://eq2imperium.proboards15.com/index.cgi
nooblet, you think that roleplaying is stupid in these days because "all there really is to do in these games is power level , craft , pvp basically"? So what do you suggest there should be? And why cant you tolerate RP in these kind of games?
I agree that MMORPG's should be designed roleplaying in mind. I hate powergaming and level grinding. But I think all games arent just that. And in the future - I believe- there will be more content in MMORPG's, like in Mourning.
"Roleplaying is just gay." Huh?
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EQ: Quantis Erudite 60pal-Bristlebane
DAoC: Vrix Kobold 50skald-Percival
L2: Jorrad DE 25 Palus Knight-Kain
CoH: Funeral 23drk/drk Def-Infinity
AC2: Thex 40 Lug Sage-Thistledown
FFXI: Wrython Elv 55brd/nin-Carbuncle
SWG: Astaroth Twi CH/Pistol
Other: AC1, AO, SB, EVE, RoE, PS, FL..
---And I still haven't found what I'm looking for---
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
There is no perfect mmog. True role playing involves small groups usually in real life. Or within small communities within the game which makes them hard to find. Most supposed Role players talk big about role playing etc but most never stick to their own code of ethics regarding what role playing is and most don't really understand what it is or really how to role play effectively. Just saying "Hail!" is not role playing. Most games don't incorporate a world that is easy to role play in.
Only within our imaginations are things limitless in which we can role play eternally.
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Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
I think you might like DAOC; it was my first MMORPG and I enjoyed (still do) ut immensly!
Like some people already pointed out there is no perfect mmorpg and there never will be.
Hmm, I've heard some bad things about EVE Online. It becomes your job away from work, so I hear.
Unfortunately, "roleplay" is something created by the community, not by the devs. Many games are perfectly set up for roleplay. All you need for good roleplay is good world interactivity and good Lore. UO, EQ, DAoC, SW:G, etc... have that. People just don't really take advantage of it. Because as long as there are guy like nooblet who think it's "gay" they will set out to ruin the community roleplay. I think it's "gay" not to roleplay. Seeing nothing in a game beyond camp/kill/craft is shallow and boring! You're very easily amused if this is all it takes to entertain you. Maybe you feel embarrassed by taking on a role that's not yours, and playing it, but I think it shows great flexibility in character, creativity, and imagination. Maybe it's all the TV kids watch these days (I'm only 22 ironically) but it seems like alot of them have had the imagination baked right out of them.
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EVE has time based skills advancement system, so you dont actually have to even play the game to advance
I know roleplay comes from the community. But what devs can make is to make the world to support roleplaying and to make it easy as possible. I think it matters a lot how the game is built, and if we take some of these days MMORPG's as example, they dont actually have much to support roleplaying. Everyone just runs around powerleveling.. And that is/can be games fault. I played DAOC for 6 months, and cant really agree that they would have any interactivity with the world.They do have lore but not much events.
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And you should know that we are trying to find MMORPG that is the best for this guy, not perfect in everything and for everybody.
These kind of comments doesnt help lot IMO. Why did you even bother to say it when he knows it..
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EVE has time based skills advancement system, so you dont actually have to even play the game to advance
advance in skills you mean :P .. which is true .. while you go away on hoilday you can set skills up so you dont waste any time. luckily eve is a game where playing the game actualy builds player experience which is the key to success. your skills are a tool set for you to use. if you dont play the game you wont know how to use the tools. this goes for the equipment and ships as well. all the best gear and skills in the game wont do you much good in Eve, a less equiped, but more experienced player will run circles around you before they kill you, or outplay you in some non combat activity.
in terms of roleplay, i dont usualy think of Eve as being a big roleplay game, but as the developers have created a truly open world, it is more or less up to you what you do, where you do it, and whith whom. so in this sense roleplay is important, as you need to chose what avenue your character will follow, unlike many games that tell you what you are and what you do.
Catch a man a fish, and you can sell it to him. Teach a man how to fish, and you ruin a wonderful business opportunity. -- Karl Marx
Catch a man a fish, and you can sell it to him. Teach a man how to fish, and you ruin a wonderful business opportunity. -- Karl Marx
I haven't seen any MMORPG yet which was heavy on role-playing. Star Wars Galaxies has a little bit more of that than other games, because it has jobs like cook or hairdresser which don't appeal to the powergamer l33t type. But even there people would make an entertainer and just leave him on auto-macro, without doing any role-playing.
If you are new to MMORPG, City of Heroes is a good game, being MMORPG-lite. It has more fun per minute, and less downtime. It is missing things like tradeskills, or an inventory, but unless you are used to having those, you probably won't even mind.
UO was the best RP MMOG, until kiddies started playing it
There is still some loyal UO players who like RP, but most of UO population are 1337s
You guys really want to know why roleplaying is limited? because computers and servers can not support roleplaying in an effective fashion. Seriously, think I'm wrong, let's discuss it a minute.
First, to have a truly great roleplaying game there needs to be reasons for your existance. In otehr words you have to have a place and purpose in the world. Second there needs to be entralling quests which go along with your purpose in life. It could be going after the magical sword that will save your race, kingdom, world,etc... Or it could be to defeat a sinister monster, or to defeat an evil empire.
Many games have this to an extent but often in the MMORG games that content is kind of weak.
Here is what holds many RPG games back right now. Everyone wants to be a Jedi but nobody wants a world full of Jedis. Possibly in the futre, the game makers will have to take a page from America's Army where you are always the U.S. Army and the foe is always terrorists. In otherwords even though you are a Jedi and maybe everyone in your guild is a Jedi but you won't see anyone else as a Jedi. They will apear to be something else. Follow my drift?
Anyway, the content is weak because nobody wants to be the saloon keeper, nobody wants to be the blacksmith. Noody wants to be the lowly dockworker. Nobody wants to be the bum in the alley. Nobody wants to be the servant in the Lord's mansion. So these will have to be AI NPCs.
One of these days, we'll have games that truly support a rich content with these things and then some time after that, we will have star trek style holodecks that offer the ultimate role playing experience you could imagine.
ANyway, like I said, my point is that in reality there are few heros yet in a game we all strive to be one and what we are left with an unrealistic immersion killing scenario where every other character you meet is so incredibley rich, powerful, handsome, skilled, etc... In short too many chiefs, not enough indians.
You are seriously a douche. I now know what type of gamer you are. You are the P.O.S with an elitist attitute that does nothing but grind and grief in PvP games, aren't you?
Shut the hell up. That is all I can say. Many people enjoy role playing. Infact, you are playing what is entitled an "MMORPG." What does that mean? Shut up and let me tell you. Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. Notice the bolded word. Role playing is part of the goddamn genre. Most games don't enforce it. This is the main reason I am playing Everquest II over Guild Wars. Guild Wars is going to have a bunch of assholes running around doing what they do best (annoying the piss out of you). However, I see there are many Everquest II people actually interested in role playing. I can't wait to start role playing.
Now, I believe you said that "all there really is to do in these games is power level , craft , pvp basically." I believe you pulled this statement out of your ass. You can do all that, plus role play! All you need to do is act like your character and, boom, there is another element to the game play. Grinding is boring? Go role play. Playing games like Lineage II, Dark Age of Camelot, City of Heroes, Star Wars Galaxies, and most other games out now is what is killing role playing. Most players in these games are children with superiority complexes and all they do is level and talk like, "wtf dont steel my fukin kill."
Shut up nooblet. Quit talking out of your ass.
Hey, problem solved. It is called Everquest II, my man. All those jobs you mentioned, such as the homeless (not really a job, but ok), the saloon keeper, etc (except for blacksmith... that is you... well, and some NPCs too) are NPCs with AI. Listen to this, sometimes you will be walking down the street in Freeport. Now, you are minding your own buisness and going to get some potions or perhaps a new sword. Let's say that before this, you were slaying orcs. Someone in town might run up to you and (using a real voice) they will ask you for help with a troublesome orc. Or maybe they will ask you to help with a bar fight. Who knows? All we know is that those days of "Go to X and collect X amount of items from X monster" are over.
Need more detail, here is a tidbit from what the quest to become a bard involves. Keep in mind, this is only a first class change quest.
Enjoy.