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PvP going to be instanced? (beta players)

This game looks interesting.  I've only seen a few videos of it.

 

PvP is big for me.  Are they going to instance all the pvp like WoW/guild wars or is it going to be open?

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  • MaZtoRMaZtoR Member UncommonPosts: 24

    If you play on a pvp serrver you can pvp anywhere you want.

  • Player-XPlayer-X Member Posts: 83

    Heh I can't wait to see how the PvP servers work out, maybe like an advanced AC 1?

    I hope raiding will still be possible on these servers as I would like both open PvP and raids also.

  • MarkedOfKaneMarkedOfKane Member Posts: 43

    It was my vague understanding that on PvE servers the Borderlands would be a zoned open PvP space.  I mean I don't see why they would make the Borderlands instanced.

  • SaranthSaranth Member UncommonPosts: 269

    I am kind of curious as how the PVP wil work. On a PVP server can a 80 gank a 20? Will I get ganked standing at the auction house?
    Can I gank someone when they respawn? (not that I would, but could I?)

    What are the specific rules? ANd will the Rules on PVP-RP be a little more strict. I like PVP, don't get me wrong. I like the way AO did it. I also like the way SWG did it. I like Factional PVP the best.

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

    Lest just say griefing and ganking will be rampant on the FFA pvp servers, which will lead to them dying and having a very very low population.    FFA trully will destroy both the pvp servers in this game.

  • skepticalskeptical Member Posts: 357

    From what I understand even on a pvp server there will be non-pvp areas like cities ect. I think the raid content will be instanced as well so pvp servers will be able to do pve raids easily. On a pve server pvp will be through minigames and sieges. I'm sure a lvl 80 can kill a lvl 20 but i would expect they wouldn't get any "credit" for it.

  • Punk999Punk999 Member UncommonPosts: 882

    any 1 can kill any 1 even if hes 50 lvls below.

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  • MitnalMitnal Member Posts: 99

     

    Originally posted by Demz2


    Lest just say griefing and ganking will be rampant on the FFA pvp servers, which will lead to them dying and having a very very low population.    FFA trully will destroy both the pvp servers in this game.

    ahhh no.

     

     

    ffa PvP servers usually have the best communities ever because of the fact that everyone can kill everyone. there are more guild alliances and also better economies.

     

    go carebear somewhere else, if your not a veteran mmo player you should not be allowed to talk

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

    Originally posted by Mitnal


     
    Originally posted by Demz2


    Lest just say griefing and ganking will be rampant on the FFA pvp servers, which will lead to them dying and having a very very low population.    FFA trully will destroy both the pvp servers in this game.

    ahhh no.

     

     

    ffa PvP servers usually have the best communities ever because of the fact that everyone can kill everyone. there are more guild alliances and also better economies.

     

    go carebear somewhere else, if your not a veteran mmo player you should not be allowed to talk

     

    Hahahahaha, sorry what are you a vet of exactly?  Did you fight in some war or soemthing?  did you fight in any real war? 

    Lol sorry i forgot your so cool, your a vet, ahahah, get a bloody clue.

  • jayheld90jayheld90 Member UncommonPosts: 1,726

    as far as i know, pvp and pve have seperate levels, pvp only goes to level 20. pve goes to level 80. (i got this info from a podcast with jason stone, a dev.) also, they use seperate gear/equipment, for either pvp or pve.

  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,768

    It will be combination of both instanced and open world pvp.  In the border kingdoms anyone can attack anyone on pve servers.  On pvp servers, anyone can attack anywhere.  Also remember pvp levels are separate from regular character levels. 

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  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    Originally posted by Punk999


    any 1 can kill any 1 even if hes 50 lvls below.
    that may be true

     

    but according to this article

    pc.ign.com/articles/869/869313p1.html

    you only gain PVP experience if the kill is similar to your level

  • MitnalMitnal Member Posts: 99

     

    Originally posted by Demz2


     
    Originally posted by Mitnal


     
    Originally posted by Demz2


    Lest just say griefing and ganking will be rampant on the FFA pvp servers, which will lead to them dying and having a very very low population.    FFA trully will destroy both the pvp servers in this game.

    ahhh no.

     

     

    ffa PvP servers usually have the best communities ever because of the fact that everyone can kill everyone. there are more guild alliances and also better economies.

     

    go carebear somewhere else, if your not a veteran mmo player you should not be allowed to talk

     

     

    Hahahahaha, sorry what are you a vet of exactly?  Did you fight in some war or soemthing?  did you fight in any real war? 

    Lol sorry i forgot your so cool, your a vet, ahahah, get a bloody clue.

    actually i am a real vet of the iraqui war fella did a 1 year tour.  so you can stfu. While you were at home jerking off, i was in baghdad gettin shot at. Yes ppl in the military play video games guy, so YOU get a bloody clue

     

    when i mean mmo veteran i mean you have been playing mmos before the "WoW era", if you play DaoC you would know, there are plenty of older games that had some serious pvp servers that made it better as a whole

  • AmegashieAmegashie Member UncommonPosts: 289
    The DaoC ffa pvp servers are actually the perfect example for Demz2's claim.
  • MitnalMitnal Member Posts: 99
    Originally posted by Amegashie

    The DaoC ffa pvp servers are actually the perfect example for Demz2's claim.

    get out of town, Mordred was an amazing server, back when the game was still popular. Econ was good and ppl had to watch what they did or there were consequences, such as ganking. if you ganked the wrong ppl, that entire guild would grief your guild until you calmed down. Politics, thats what it rolls down to. Only little girls did not like that server.

  • Demz2Demz2 Member Posts: 435

    Originally posted by Mitnal

    Originally posted by Amegashie

    The DaoC ffa pvp servers are actually the perfect example for Demz2's claim.

    get out of town, Mordred was an amazing server, back when the game was still popular. Econ was good and ppl had to watch what they did or there were consequences, such as ganking. if you ganked the wrong ppl, that entire guild would grief your guild until you calmed down. Politics, thats what it rolls down to. Only little girls did not like that server.

    Are you being seriuos even when Daoc was popular the FFA server was the lowest pop server, even now years later it is still the server with the lowest population.

  • AramanuAramanu Member Posts: 157

    Smaller population = less idiots -> better community

    Larger population = More idiots -> Worse community

     

    There are exceptions out there though.

  • HamrtimeHamrtime Member Posts: 200


    Originally posted by Mitnal
     
    Originally posted by Demz2  
    Originally posted by Mitnal  
    Originally posted by Demz2 Lest just say griefing and ganking will be rampant on the FFA pvp servers, which will lead to them dying and having a very very low population.    FFA trully will destroy both the pvp servers in this game.
    ahhh no.
     
     
    ffa PvP servers usually have the best communities ever because of the fact that everyone can kill everyone. there are more guild alliances and also better economies.
     
    go carebear somewhere else, if your not a veteran mmo player you should not be allowed to talk


     
     
    Hahahahaha, sorry what are you a vet of exactly?  Did you fight in some war or soemthing?  did you fight in any real war? 
    Lol sorry i forgot your so cool, your a vet, ahahah, get a bloody clue.


    actually i am a real vet of the iraqui war fella did a 1 year tour.  so you can stfu. While you were at home jerking off, i was in baghdad gettin shot at. Yes ppl in the military play video games guy, so YOU get a bloody clue
     
    when i mean mmo veteran i mean you have been playing mmos before the "WoW era", if you play DaoC you would know, there are plenty of older games that had some serious pvp servers that made it better as a whole


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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    FFA PVP servers = people get in a guild ASAP due to fear of ganking, more groups and players working together. Which leads to a better community and a perception of your actions having consequences upon your game. PVE servers just don't encourage this enough in my opinion leaving atleast 50% of players playing thier solo game. Resulting in alot less social interaction and an "I'm alright Jack, keeps ya hands off of my stack" mentality.

    But that's just my opinion after having compared the two play styles.

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    CS Lewis

  • melmoth1melmoth1 Member Posts: 762

     Lol, I LOVE PVP - the threat of being ganked and ganking back in return. I need that edginess. If you know your Sigmund Freud you will know it's and Id thing, I NEED to pwn your ass.

    However, they should have guards in the major cities to keep some semblance of order and this would be in keeping with the Conan lore anyway. That won't stop me ganking your ass though

    The care-bears (hey, some of my best friends are care-bears) can go to PVE servers and live like hobbits in the shire with Mr Frodo so it's no big deal.

    They should call pvp the Crom Servers lol. Crom would approve of ganking, if you are not strong enough to endure then you deserve to get bottom spanked by the bad boys hoo-hah!

  • swainiacswainiac Member Posts: 120

    Great example of the PvP snobs in this thread - "If you don't want to play FFA PvP then your a little girl..." and this is why so many games fail these days.

    All the "old vets" claiming that a great game is based on PvP style and rules while the most subscribed to games on the market aren't set up this way.

    Argue all you want vetran elites - your era is dead. Just keep dreaming about Darkfall (that will never release) and keep your worthless opinions to yourself.

     

    As to the OP - there will be FFA servers and PvE servers. On both types the cities will not allow PvP - think Shatrath (not guards that get alerted) - no PvP in cities period (except for duels called drunken brawling).

    On PvE servers there will be mini games like battlegrounds and whole PvP zones (Borderlands) that PvP is capable in. There will not be factions - kill who you want to. I believe that you are unable to kill a guildmate or party mate as well.

    Hope that helps some. I'm off so that the 60 year old vet pvp masters can come and flame away.

    edited for spelling.

  • JackBauer24JackBauer24 Member Posts: 283

    Ok so with PvP servers your always on alert and you get into a guild and work together right?

     

    If thats so it seems more interesting to me, but what will tick me off in the game (still be fun) is if every time I get ganked by somebody, will I get looted? 

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by JackBauer24


    Ok so with PvP servers your always on alert and you get into a guild and work together right?
     
    If thats so it seems more interesting to me, but what will tick me off in the game (still be fun) is if every time I get ganked by somebody, will I get looted? 



    From what I've heard there will be partial looting but they aren't decided about full looting on PvP servers. However I find that once you're into a decent well organized guild that exacts revenge on griefers, then griefers tend to pass up pking you and waiting for the easy unguilded noob to wander by aimlessly. I should imagine that most basic gear that is necessary won't be lootable, but high end stuff will be susceptable but that's just a guess and my opinion. Also if you're traveling with friends there's saftey in numbers, which is how it should be in the world of Conan.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • MitnalMitnal Member Posts: 99
    Originally posted by Demz2


     
    Originally posted by Mitnal

    Originally posted by Amegashie

    The DaoC ffa pvp servers are actually the perfect example for Demz2's claim.

    get out of town, Mordred was an amazing server, back when the game was still popular. Econ was good and ppl had to watch what they did or there were consequences, such as ganking. if you ganked the wrong ppl, that entire guild would grief your guild until you calmed down. Politics, thats what it rolls down to. Only little girls did not like that server.

     

    Are you being seriuos even when Daoc was popular the FFA server was the lowest pop server, even now years later it is still the server with the lowest population.

    only because its a low pop does not mean it isnt a great server, get rid of the QQers and leaves only the strong willed, makes for a better server over all

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    there's supposedly NO pvp looting in place at the moment. FC wants to wait until after release and poll the playerbase on weather they want a loot system or not, and if so, what type.

     

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