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They say AoC will de-throne WoW, but my specs so otherwise.
Majestico
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I keep hearing all the hype regarding AoC. To all intents and purposes it sounds like a really great game. I personallly would like to see a MMORPG that does not base everything on the combat, which nearly every MMO does. However, AoC with their innovative combat, would at least mean that I would not grow bored of it so quickly. I love the idea of actually having to have some skill to fight, rather than just press a button. It's one of the things I detest, combat in MMO's = pressing a button or two. Repeat. Over, and over, and over, and over... You know what I mean.
However, no matter how good AoC turns out to be, the reason I think it will do little to dent WoW's numbers is simply down to specs. My pc currently runs WoW like a dream, even in the most crowded of areas. Very rare that I get lag. That is not saying much though, as the famous quote goes, 'WoW will run on a toaster'. Now, I can get EQ2 to work, but I have to sacrifice a lot of the beauty of this gorgeous-looking game in doing so, and even then I get issues, and often crash. Vanguard; I am not sure if it was a problem with the beta-launch, but after I spent about 12 hours downloading the client, I got nothing, a black screen. So I doubt that works on my machine. Even Oblivion does not look that good on my pc.
So I am doubting that AoC will run on my current specs. Granted I am thinking of upgrading my cpu, which is the only stumbling block on my machine, well that and a newer graphics card. But I am also thinking of using that many to buy a next-gen console, as I see the glorious graphics on offer on some of those systems and I want them!
Simply put; will AoC require high-end pc's to run it properly? Even mid-to-high? If so, then I doubt it will get the numbers to touch WoW, at least not for a couple of years.
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I don't really have much to add, but for a reference point for average computer specs, I recommend taking a look at the Steam hardware survey results. Seems to be the best data point out there for what the average gaming computer looks like.
http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html
Try this site
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest
Hope it helps
No one said AoC will dethrone WoW... that's just dumb....
I'm running the game fine on Medium settings with an average computer. The game is enjoyable even if you can't have the highest graphics. Which is fine. Graphics aren't the reason I play games, art style is and gameplay.
Sure it won't do much damage to WoW. But that's fine. The pop culture doesn't always like the best. Music wise, tv wise, movie wise, beer taste, food.
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Who said aoc would dethrone wow ???? please i want to see who ever said this not funcom that for sure,
the way wow was made and set-up, it pleases all and every kind of player hell even my little brother has a lv70 .see my point , set aside most wow players dont know much about the other mmo's, the ones i have met you ask them what other mmo you have played and 80% of the time they will answer you this is my first.so this isnt about dethroning any other game aoc will have enough subs to be healthy trust me , and even you dont have a good computer well in a years you can play on console xbox360 , how much will a xbox be at that time 200$ ~~ about .
Am sure aoc will be able to play on alot of med , high computers at long as you dont have a toaster like you said . I have a buddy that plays wow on a really really old computer all setting to a min , but he cant raid but has fun leveling characters to 70 solo . beats me what fun in that , that just an exemple.
by the way AOC has a great storyline but alot of players dont read quests anyways , they just click through the quest quickly but you see aoc has it voice narrated even easier to get into the lore.
last thing you say you hate mmo's combat that ask to press buttons over and over , what else do you want beside that it's a computer game ?? i dont understand when people say this of course you ganna mash buttons , depends really how you are doing and when . in aoc you will have to have timing . i have played alot of mmo''s tell me which does not involve button mashing ? even eveonline need it .
I am currently writing my review of my experience with AoC. IN the end, I wager the specs needed to run the game smoothly could be AoC's fatal flaw.
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How can you dethrone something that isn't even king? There are Asian games that have way more subscribers world wide than WoW does
How can you dethrone something that isn't even king? There are Asian games that have way more subscribers world wide than WoW does
Lol, care to name one?
Another Vanguard?
How can you dethrone something that isn't even king? There are Asian games that have way more subscribers world wide than WoW does
What are you talking about? WoW has the highest subscriptions world wide EVER for ANY MMORPG. Don't you read the news?
AoC is all hype nothing else.
It wont even scratch WoW and we all know that.
No one is saying it's going to de-throne wow, thats a tottal myth, show me a bunch of posts claiming this?
AOC any game would be happy with a 500k userbase, and you can still be sucsesfull under that amount, wow is an anomaly not the standard, get over it.
How can you dethrone something that isn't even king? There are Asian games that have way more subscribers world wide than WoW does
What are you talking about? WoW has the highest subscriptions world wide EVER for ANY MMORPG. Don't you read the news?
He's probably talking about a couple of F2P item shop games ..........like they compare.
To be honest, anyone saying that any game will "dethrone" wow is taking you for a ride.
I'm sorry, but you have to take WoW out of the picture from now on. It is not what "gamers" think it is. It is a social phenomon. No game will really dethrone WoW any time soon. So it seems a bit unfair that AoC or any game be compared to WoW.
The question is, will AoC be able to garner a respectable amount of subscribers. Let's say 200k + Could eve be a bit less.
I see no reason that game companies should have to alter their vision of the game just to try to dethrone another game or to be honest, cater to some "mass" out there just because they can run it.
Good for Funcom for creating a game that they believe in. Bad for Funcom if they can't at least address some of the issues that some players are having. As long as your computer meets the minimum requirements then you should be able to run it. No matter what those requirements are.
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To be honest, anyone saying that any game will "dethrone" wow is taking you for a ride.
I'm sorry, but you have to take WoW out of the picture from now on. It is not what "gamers" think it is. It is a social phenomon. No game will really dethrone WoW any time soon. So it seems a bit unfair that AoC or any game be compared to WoW.
The question is, will AoC be able to garner a respectable amount of subscribers. Let's say 200k + Could eve be a bit less.
I see no reason that game companies should have to alter their vision of the game just to try to dethrone another game or to be honest, cater to some "mass" out there just because they can run it.
Good for Funcom for creating a game that they believe in. Bad for Funcom if they can't at least address some of the issues that some players are having. As long as your computer meets the minimum requirements then you should be able to run it. No matter what those requirements are.
I see what you mean, but whether we like it or not, triple A titles such as AoC and WAR will be compared to WoW. These companies are devoloping such expensive games so that they can get a slice of the pie, and like it or not, WoW owns most of that pie. I want to see this genre move forward, and so in doing so, it is important that any innovative game that offers something new succeeds. There is no way that these companies are making these games for a niche part of the MMO market. Perhaps smaller software houses would settle for innovation and a niche market of 100k subscribers. AoC and WAR are not. They are definitely wanting to take some of WoW's thunder. So if AoC is a fantastic game, with all these innovations, but they set the specs too high, then they risk marginalising their market. Which would be a shame, as until someone offers a serious rival to WoW, then MMO's will remain using the same formula.
I am sure they would be happy with 500k user base not happening lol they wont get that though not even close to that after 1-2 months they will be lucky if they have 100k userbase and I am being generous.Still a good sub number if they can have that they won't complain. One thing I don't get is ppl calling Aoc's combat innovative? how tell me? It's a button mash like most all mmogs are. I dont see ANY mmog even coming close to the sucess blizzard has had with WoW unless it's another mmog made by blizzard like diablo mmog or a new WoW but really they don't need another WoW if they would get faster on pushing out content WoW will still be huge 10 years from now.
Blizzard have proved what mmog players have been sayin for year top of the line OOO and Ahhh graphics don't mean much it's the game play that matters.
Who the hell kind of idiot is "they"? I have met very few proponents of the game that seriously believe that it will come close to dethroning WoW. It may or may not be of some help in its eventual decline, but not even Funcom itself believes or says that it will touch that kind of subscription numbers. Of course, assuming something doesn't get botched, Kain's pessimism is also more than a little unrealistic.
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I don't know about de-throning wow. It is my personal belief that whatever game de-thrones WoW will not be seen as a game that would do so.
To the OP, maybe you can buy a 360, I thought AoC was coming out on it. I could be wrong though.
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Well, just to state my opinion. I just tried AoC beta for a few days. The game seemed pretty well done for beta, of course plenty of bugs, but the reason i tried more then anything was to try the new combat system. For me was pretty easy to get used to after a few battles, gave it a good try for the few days. Didn't do much questing, didn't really care. Just from the combat system I have to say it might as well be just like any other MMO. It's just three directions to swing the weapon, wich, if you're paying attention does give you a good advantage, but really didn't change the game play from most MMOs. I haven't played WoW for many months now, but after trying that, I might just go back to WoW for some seriously good, and smooth game play action. The three directions of attack really didn't feel innovative at all, i might as well have played a spell caster as to not waste my skill slots.
I know of no one who says AoC will de-throne WoW, probably because I don't know anyone who would make such a ridiculous statement. But even though it probably won't come close to WoW's subscription base, I'm sure I'll like it more. I've never played WoW and have no interest in playing it. But I do plan to give AoC a try.
Well I for one will call anyone that says this game will run on an average computer a flat out prevaricator!
My main computer is decent, runs Oblivion fine ,is a dual core amd 5600, nvidia 7800 and 2mb of ram and AOC runs like molasses on it.
So yep the OP nailed it, AOC will be another niche game for those with high end machines that can actually play it.
I will be shocked if AOC reaches 200k milestone, just is not going to happen. It is Vanguard all over again.
Where is all that "hype" ?
All I get from AoC is one awful report after the other.
Or does "hype" translate to "advertisement" ? Yeah, then I'm sorry, but I dont care for advertisement much.
P.s.: And dont compare AoC with Vanguard. AoC is a heavy advertised IP game with little to offer even if it would run smoothly. Vanguard is an own IP, experimental in many respects, and while it still doesnt run perfectly smoothly today and player numbers are rather disappointing, its so much better from its feature list alone that its not funny.