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Funcom Quotes on Beta

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  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495

    Good to know!  Thanks for the quotes.

  • greymanngreymann Member Posts: 757

    Originally posted by TheGreyMan


     
    Originally posted by greymann


     
    Originally posted by TheGreyMan


     
    Originally posted by greymann

    Originally posted by ladyattis


    Thanks for the quotes. I might just order AoC, but I want to see how the idiot kids are going to swarm this game first. Now, I don't fear the client, I fear the community...Strange no?
    -- Brede



    Yes, be very afraid.

    Oh my name :p

     

     

    Where did you get the idea?  Just had this conversation with someone else.

     

    Waylander was nick named it in his final novel

    I believe we just had this conversation under your other account.  Same avatar and talking about waylander.

  • TheGreyManTheGreyMan Member Posts: 325
    Originally posted by greymann


     
    Originally posted by TheGreyMan


     
    Originally posted by greymann


     
    Originally posted by TheGreyMan


     
    Originally posted by greymann

    Originally posted by ladyattis


    Thanks for the quotes. I might just order AoC, but I want to see how the idiot kids are going to swarm this game first. Now, I don't fear the client, I fear the community...Strange no?
    -- Brede



    Yes, be very afraid.

    Oh my name :p

     

     

    Where did you get the idea?  Just had this conversation with someone else.

     

    Waylander was nick named it in his final novel

     

    I believe we just had this conversation under your other account.  Same avatar and talking about waylander.

    other account?

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  • HexxeityHexxeity Member Posts: 848

    I know for a FACT that the people at Artifact Entertainment used exactly the same lies just before the release of Horizons, and Sigil did the same with Vanguard.

    And under-funded studios will keep telling the same lies about their half-assed games for as long as their fanbois keep believing them.

  • chryseschryses Member UncommonPosts: 1,453

    Originally posted by ladyattis


    Thanks for the quotes. I might just order AoC, but I want to see how the idiot kids are going to swarm this game first. Now, I don't fear the client, I fear the community...Strange no?
    -- Brede
    LOL exactly how I feel.  I want to see what the community is like.  I keep playing TR because the EU community is pretty decent, chatty and helpful.  Once AoC settles down I guess people just fall into like minded guilds.  For the first time I may consider going RPG server so at least I can report a troll mouthing off about how they can see nipples...

    I can deal with bugs as long as the community is solid

     

  • skepticalskeptical Member Posts: 357

    You have to take everything comming from funcom with a grain of salt. Obviously they will put the best spin on everything. That's doesn't mean that what they are claiming isn't true to a certain extent. Like the whole debugger thing. Yeah I'm sure it has some effect, but if it wasn't there would it be that much different? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe it would be that significant. Obviously they have every interest in minimising the problems.

  • HorniakHorniak Member Posts: 77

    Originally posted by Hexxeity


    I know for a FACT that the people at Artifact Entertainment used exactly the same lies just before the release of Horizons, and Sigil did the same with Vanguard.
    And under-funded studios will keep telling the same lies about their half-assed games for as long as their fanbois keep believing them.

    And these haters just keep coming. Wait and see, you may be right, you may be wrong, but saying these things without anything to back it up is just lame. Only blizzard that got the real money nowdays, so when you say underfunded, you mean everyone except blizzard?

  • HexxeityHexxeity Member Posts: 848

    Originally posted by Horniak


     
    Originally posted by Hexxeity


    I know for a FACT that the people at Artifact Entertainment used exactly the same lies just before the release of Horizons, and Sigil did the same with Vanguard.
    And under-funded studios will keep telling the same lies about their half-assed games for as long as their fanbois keep believing them.

     

    And these haters just keep coming. Wait and see, you may be right, you may be wrong, but saying these things without anything to back it up is just lame. Only blizzard that got the real money nowdays, so when you say underfunded, you mean everyone except blizzard?

    "Without anything to back it up"?  I'd say two MMOGs that are widely regarded as abysmal failures would count as something to back my claims up.  Are you saying those companies did not make spurious claims about their games' performance?

    And no, Blizzard is not the only adequately funded game studio around.  Cryptic did just fine with CoH.  SOE is not underfunded (just very poorly directed).  There are many developers who are capable of making a good game.  Funcom just hasn't proven to be one of them.

    I'm not even a hater.  I don't know a thing about what AoC is really like.  I never claimed to.  I was just making the point that this line being spun by Funcom sounds very familiar and makes me very skeptical, regardless of ANY claims made by haters OR fanbois.

  • findaratofindarato Member Posts: 74

    Horizons never claimed to have an older build pushed to beta testers, nor did they promise anything.  They focused on crafting a city building, along with multi class/schooling .  That game failed because they forgot to put any PVE/PVP into the game, and the high end was empty, not just missing, it was there, but it was empty.

  • SiyahSiyah Member Posts: 131

     

    Originally posted by Sineath


    Is Funcom saying anything about why they used an older version for the Stress Beta?

    It really depends on what they want to test. For stress testing the hardware they can throw the last patch, the one before last or anything for that matter.... all they want to know is what is the optimum hardware requirement on their end and how should they solve load balancing based on the zones occupation at any given time.

     

    They would obviously not used a 3 months old client but anything they feel comfortable with, in the meantime their dev are effectively spending time testing and debugging the candidate build for release.

    Makes sense to me and not uncommon in large software development, gaming industry or elsewhere.

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  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316

    Seriously, how often have we seen that ?  Devs saying it's beta, live will not be that way and guess what happen ?  It's the same things when the game really launch and they come out with a new sets of excuses.  

    Anyway i hope what he's saying will happen, that the live game will deliver and all these problems are only due to the excess of players.   Only launch will tell, but don't expect miracles.   It's funny how games that go smoothly in beta, do well at launch (WOW, LOTR), will those having problems always seems to carry them.

  • HexxeityHexxeity Member Posts: 848

    Originally posted by findarato


    Horizons never claimed to have an older build pushed to beta testers, nor did they promise anything.  They focused on crafting a city building, along with multi class/schooling .  That game failed because they forgot to put any PVE/PVP into the game, and the high end was empty, not just missing, it was there, but it was empty.
    They did claim that their performance issues in beta were the fault of a debugger program.  Yet at launch, everyone found out just how terrible a state the game was in, from a tech perspective.

    Maybe your Horizons memory is fading, as you seem not to know that PvP was removed from the design YEARS before launch.  Furthermore, most people never made it to the "high end" to find out how empty it was.

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    back to reality folks, I seriously doubt that any employee for any game company would come out and say " hey our code sucks, and this is as good as it gets". Don't get me wrong I really wanted to like this game and I  like the games concept, but the stability for me just sucks and I am beginning to have serious doubts about the community.  I wish they had the same game play with Vanguards open world and stability, because I found Vanguard even in beta pretty damn stable, even if it's performance left something to be desired and the game play sucked swamp water.

    If everything clears up after launch there will be plenty of time for me to buy the game. It's not like they are just going to sell xxxxx number of boxes and if you are not there opening day you are shot out of luck or something. Sorry but I screwed up and bought Anarchy Online and Horizons and by the time Dark and Light and Vanguard came out I was way too jaded to toss 50 bucks into the crapper. For those who have to be there on release day, more power to you and thanks for paying for beta. I will see you if and when they get the mess straight.

    I miss DAoC

  • MitnalMitnal Member Posts: 99
    Originally posted by Hexxeity


     
    Originally posted by findarato


    Horizons never claimed to have an older build pushed to beta testers, nor did they promise anything.  They focused on crafting a city building, along with multi class/schooling .  That game failed because they forgot to put any PVE/PVP into the game, and the high end was empty, not just missing, it was there, but it was empty.
    They did claim that their performance issues in beta were the fault of a debugger program.  Yet at launch, everyone found out just how terrible a state the game was in, from a tech perspective.

     

    Maybe your Horizons memory is fading, as you seem not to know that PvP was removed from the design YEARS before launch.  Furthermore, most people never made it to the "high end" to find out how empty it was.

    dude just admit that ur not dealing with the same type of company here, take your sceptisism to another forum

  • tylerthedruitylerthedrui Member Posts: 304

    If they're testign the old build, then who is going to test the new build that is stable?

  • KRILE0NKRILE0N Member UncommonPosts: 299

    I got a fun idea!!!

    How about everyone grow the hell up and make decisions for themselves like mature adults? (Or is everyone 12yrs old? lawl bewbz!)

    How about everyone stop attacking and reviewing a BETA? (IT'S A BETA!)

    How about everyone stop acting like 50 dollars is the end of the world? (Get a better job you bum.)

    How about everyone stop trying to play the game on crappy computers? (Top end graphics card with P4 is not a high end computer.. do your research people.)

    How about everyone just chill the hell out until release? (That's to much to ask when your life is the computer, huh? Go outside.)

    How about everyone that is so skeptical wait for a free trial? (Isn't ranting fun!!!!)

    How about everyone understand that you need to stop acting as if AoC is going to make you /wrist? (You should see a doctor you emoboy you.)

    Also, for you paranoid folks. No your phone isn't tapped and there isn't a man in a black suit around every corner. That is you being a nut job and you should go to a doctor or hang your self. The fuzzy baby in a banana suit says to hang your self, but I wouldn't take his advise.

    I'm going to buy AoC. Why? BECAUSE I FKIN' CAN. Do I need reviews? Nope. Do I need hype? Nope. Do I need a good list of what the devs plan and a few in-game videos/screenshots? Yep. Do I have those? Yep. OK I'M GOOD.

    Stop basing YOUR purchases on OTHER peoples opinions.. What's the matter? Don't know how to spend your own cash? Give it to me.. I'll gladly do it for you.

  • YimmaransYimmarans Member Posts: 27

    Originally posted by Hexxeity 
    There are many developers who are capable of making a good game.  Funcom just hasn't proven to be one of them.


        Anarchy Online was a very innovative game.  It too had a rocky start (mainly terrible lag), but it turned out to be extremely fun after about a month of fixes.  However, the OB for AoC hasn't even been as bad as Anarchy Online's release client. 
  • CharisiCharisi Member Posts: 159

    Originally posted by _Kyle_


    I got a fun idea!!!
    How about everyone grow the hell up and make decisions for themselves like mature adults? (Or is everyone 12yrs old? lawl bewbz!)
    How about everyone stop attacking and reviewing a BETA? (IT'S A BETA!)
    How about everyone stop acting like 50 dollars is the end of the world? (Get a better job you bum.)
    How about everyone stop trying to play the game on crappy computers? (Top end graphics card with P4 is not a high end computer.. do your research people.)
    How about everyone just chill the hell out until release? (That's to much to ask when your life is the computer, huh? Go outside.)
    How about everyone that is so skeptical wait for a free trial? (Isn't ranting fun!!!!)
    How about everyone understand that you need to stop acting as if AoC is going to make you /wrist? (You should see a doctor you emoboy you.)
    Also, for you paranoid folks. No your phone isn't tapped and there isn't a man in a black suit around every corner. That is you being a nut job and you should go to a doctor or hang your self. The fuzzy baby in a banana suit says to hang your self, but I wouldn't take his advise.
    I'm going to buy AoC. Why? BECAUSE I FKIN' CAN. Do I need reviews? Nope. Do I need hype? Nope. Do I need a good list of what the devs plan and a few in-game videos/screenshots? Yep. Do I have those? Yep. OK I'M GOOD.
    Stop basing YOUR purchases on OTHER peoples opinions.. What's the matter? Don't know how to spend your own cash? Give it to me.. I'll gladly do it for you.

    12 year old bashing isn't allowed from someone with a Naruto avatar. Stop pretending to be a grown up.

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  • Death1942Death1942 Member UncommonPosts: 2,587

    no way a stress test is meant to test stress?  guess i learn something new everyday

     

    hope this gets rid of some of the crap threads on this forum

    MMO wish list:

    -Changeable worlds
    -Solid non level based game
    -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads

  • YimmaransYimmarans Member Posts: 27

    Originally posted by _Kyle_ 
    How about everyone stop trying to play the game on crappy computers? (Top end graphics card with P4 is not a high end computer.. do your research people.)

        Yeah, not too many people understand that their computer is essentially one big bottleneck.  It will only run as fast as your slowest piece of hardware.  So when people complain that their 8800 SLI can't handle the graphics, I just laugh.. my system isn't bleeding edge, but everything is within the last generation and AoC runs smoothly.. (Well, my RAM is bleeding edge, but that's about it)

  • tharkthark Member UncommonPosts: 1,188


    Originally posted by _Kyle_
    I got a fun idea!!!
    How about everyone grow the hell up and make decisions for themselves like mature adults? (Or is everyone 12yrs old? lawl bewbz!)
    How about everyone stop attacking and reviewing a BETA? (IT'S A BETA!)
    How about everyone stop acting like 50 dollars is the end of the world? (Get a better job you bum.)
    How about everyone stop trying to play the game on crappy computers? (Top end graphics card with P4 is not a high end computer.. do your research people.)
    How about everyone just chill the hell out until release? (That's to much to ask when your life is the computer, huh? Go outside.)
    How about everyone that is so skeptical wait for a free trial? (Isn't ranting fun!!!!image)
    How about everyone understand that you need to stop acting as if AoC is going to make you /wrist? (You should see a doctor you emoboy you.)
    Also, for you paranoid folks. No your phone isn't tapped and there isn't a man in a black suit around every corner. That is you being a nut job and you should go to a doctor or hang your self. The fuzzy baby in a banana suit says to hang your self, but I wouldn't take his advise.
    I'm going to buy AoC. Why? BECAUSE I FKIN' CAN. Do I need reviews? Nope. Do I need hype? Nope. Do I need a good list of what the devs plan and a few in-game videos/screenshots? Yep. Do I have those? Yep. OK I'M GOOD.
    Stop basing YOUR purchases on OTHER peoples opinions.. What's the matter? Don't know how to spend your own cash? Give it to me.. I'll gladly do it for you.

    I agree

    I'm signing most of this..Chill out..It's a game, like any other game..It has the same price as any other game you buy, or maybe thats the problem, people doesn't actually buy that many games nowadays, maybe they download all the hottest games of Pirate Bay for their "Free trials"...To bad you can't do this with MMO's !!

    You are not signing a contract with the devil if you buy it, you won't be forced to play it if you dislike it...You will get an INCLUDED MONTH with the purchase, and that should give you enough time to deiceide if this game is worth your credit card in the future or not..

    For me..Well I'll buy it, as I have bought any other MMO comming out over the years..If it turns out to be bad, well then it ends up in the shelf, with all the other games i purchased that was bad and good..

    But right now, I see nothing wrong with AoC, the small parts of it I actually have seen..Works fine..

    /Junker

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842

    All the doomsayers just think there is some magic game out there that can launch flawlessly. I have played or atleast tried 3/4ths the games out there at launch and I still haven't found one that even resembles being stable. This goes for LOTRO and DaoC and a few others that people still think had flawless launches. What i think people tend to forget is that the PC is not a console. Developers dont get the luxury of having to not worry about system requirements when building PC games. They can not make a PC game without a graphics adjust area. This probably isn't the place to go into this discussion so I will leave it be, i just think alot of the doomsayers are use to the console life of getting a game the runs stable out the box. Just think about this one, try being the coder who has to go through every line of code and figure out how to get it to work on more than 50,000+ configurations. Than ask yourself how easy it would have been to do it on one configuration and you get your answer. Beta's will always be unstable for the most, and great for some. I think we should be more critical about how Funcom decides to spend its time come launch. Until then all of it, and I even mean my blog beta review, is just speculation.

  • Binny45Binny45 Member UncommonPosts: 522

    Here's to wishing you all well on launch day!  I won't be there, but I'm pretty confident that Funcom will at least fix some of the problems.

    I'm not saying the game is gonna suck, but to those that do intend to play, don't get your hopes up too high.  It's a good game that needs more development time.  Just giving you a heads up.

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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221

    Originally posted by _Kyle_


    I got a fun idea!!!
    How about everyone grow the hell up and make decisions for themselves like mature adults? (Or is everyone 12yrs old? lawl bewbz!)
    How about everyone stop attacking and reviewing a BETA? (IT'S A BETA!)
    Its a beta that is not gonna be beta in a few weeks. If it has so many bugs as it does now, do you really believe that somehow miraculously FC had this messiah build hidden on their server that will be only be released on the day of the release? C'mon, be serious. You test the latest build that you have, it doesnt make sense to NOT test the latest build. So if this is the latest build, with so many bugs, then thats what you gonna get in a few days. Well, more or less of course, since some of the bugs would be fixed... i hope.

    How about everyone stop acting like 50 dollars is the end of the world? (Get a better job you bum.)
    You obviously dont work for your money. 50$ is not a lot, and I often dont mind loosing it if it is my choice. However, if someone LIED to me to get those 50$ i earned working a whole day then hell i would be pissed. An hey, get a better job? Would u be so kind and write me a check for 1000$? I mean cmon, its not that much. What? you cant afford it? Get a better job, you bum.




    How about everyone stop trying to play the game on crappy computers? (Top end graphics card with P4 is not a high end computer.. do your research people.)
    Uhm.. okey.. so 8800GTX with quad p4 is not high end PC? hmmm.... Where can I buy a hyper computer?

    How about everyone just chill the hell out until release? (That's to much to ask when your life is the computer, huh? Go outside.)

     
    If everyone would chill until the release then there would be no forums like these, games would be designed by a single or select few people FOR those select few computers. Because people discuss something, then maybe, just maybe that something will be changed for better because of that discussion. If you dont say there is a problem, that problem will be implemented into a final product. Do you want that?

    How about everyone that is so skeptical wait for a free trial? (Isn't ranting fun!!!!)
    Yes, all the doubter will do just that (myself included)

    How about everyone understand that you need to stop acting as if AoC is going to make you /wrist? (You should see a doctor you emoboy you.)
    Hm? What?

    Also, for you paranoid folks. No your phone isn't tapped and there isn't a man in a black suit around every corner. That is you being a nut job and you should go to a doctor or hang your self. The fuzzy baby in a banana suit says to hang your self, but I wouldn't take his advise.
    Thats crazy talk, everybody knows those men wear GREY suits.

    I'm going to buy AoC. Why? BECAUSE I FKIN' CAN. Do I need reviews? Nope. Do I need hype? Nope. Do I need a good list of what the devs plan and a few in-game videos/screenshots? Yep. Do I have those? Yep. OK I'M GOOD.
    Good for you. Why wont ya go buy AoC, or actually buy 10 copies of it. Also, while you are on a buying spree, I have 3 bags of garbage, im selling it cheap, real cheap. Would you buy it please? Because you can. Right?

    Stop basing YOUR purchases on OTHER peoples opinions.. What's the matter? Don't know how to spend your own cash? Give it to me.. I'll gladly do it for you.
    Hey. your the one with cash! Give ME your cash. If you dont trust someone named jimmyman99 on MMORPG.COM but you trust someone called LIONEX on forums.ageofconan.com or someone (you dont even know who) from Funcom who tells you the game is fine, then .. doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    Originally posted by Yimmarans


     
    Originally posted by Hexxeity 
    There are many developers who are capable of making a good game.  Funcom just hasn't proven to be one of them.


        Anarchy Online was a very innovative game.  It too had a rocky start (mainly terrible lag), but it turned out to be extremely fun after about a month of fixes.  However, the OB for AoC hasn't even been as bad as Anarchy Online's release client. 

     

    do your research it was more like 3 or 4 months after launch that AO was semi playable, and longer than that before I would have called it fixed.

    Oh and for the one that don't want to hear negative opinions then quit reading msg boards.

    Like I said earlier for those that want to finance the last few months of beta by being there on launch day I commend you. Save me a few mobs to kill  once a majority of the issues are solved.

     

    I miss DAoC

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