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I'd honestly love for someone to tell me why EXTROADINARILY negative threads like "WoW >Aoc", "WAR > AoC", "Aoc = GW", or even "AoC = needs a language filter and nudity turned off for everyone" and no one really flaming the OP, and is generally accepted.
However, when someone trys to defend AoC from these fanbois and children they are looked upon and immature and fools? Yet the afformentioned threads completely setting fire to AoC are based upon zero and assumed information that is completely false are considered truthful and holy??
Where have all the intelectually respondant people gone in the gaming world? Has everyone absolutely lost their mind or has WoW created a mentality that creates hateful and negative individuals? I'm not really trying to flame WoW whatsoever (would make me a hypocrit), however....it just seems so difficult to think otherwise considering the first day AoC open beta started there were literally 29 WoW > AoC threads up with over 600 WoW fans attacking people who even like the conan genre.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
You are far too emotionally attached to this company. A terribly unwise decision, as they are not equally attached to you.
I couldn't care about the company, the fact the IP itself is being attacked by parent's and children alike are what are frustrating me and angering me beyond most logical standards. Take a game or genre you cherish the most, and then watch children making ignorant and biased statements about it trying to ruin it.Then come back and tell me if wisdom truly matters to you at that moment sir
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I have...you act like you are the only one that experiences these things. Fact is, they are games...and I really don't care who says what about it. You ever played D&D? The tabletop...not the MMO. If you wanna REALLY see something which, not only gets bashed, but gets you downright shut down in most social circles...look at THAT.
The IP isn't being attacked at all...in fact, a lot of REALLY big fans of Conan are attacking the game because it failed to deliver on the 'hook' it was promised to. There are no bar fights....PvP is almost excluded to endgame, and the gear system is going to favor raiding. People wanted to dive into the Conan world and be enveloped...and instead are getting fed a game full of loaded zoning coupled with the PROMISE of endgame content that will force them right back into the WoW raiding chain.
To put it bluntly, Funcom promised a holy grail, and merely delivered 'another' MMO....amongst a sea of million others which operate very much the same way. Yeah, people are pissed about it. I'm not even sure why you are shocked. LoTR didn't get this kind of flak because they didn't suggest that their game would be REVOLUTIONARY. Funcom did, and its gonna bite them in the arse come release day.
AoC community is FAIL due to immature losers like yourself. Get over yourself already because you sir are fail.
Word , this is a deja vu community of Vanguard, The game is perfect , your computer sucks... lol
Irony is the post made that AoC will "kill" Vanguard.
Hey, here is your/their own crowd of blatent bashers.
I am going to continue with my preorder on AoC but I can't stop smiling everytime I see another full page of new post bashing AoC. To sad I was not around this forum when the VG beta was.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.
This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self. Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.
Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?
Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".
I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".
If you love the god damn thing so much go play it and stop trying to woe others into your mind. You are either posting in between crashes or can't play it solid enough or you wouldn't be here.
That being said most players judge an MMO on the first 10 levels this gives them an idea on the battle system and how it will pan out.
If you hate AoC's battle system well then you can figure that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you hate the quest setup you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you hate how your machine runs it you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you don't like the UI you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
Obviously there is a reason why people are pulling away from the game, good for you and your guild their buddy glad you think you have some sort of superiority over everyone else cause your "guild" loves it. Stop being a damn fanboi and just accept that fact that any game can be judged the first couple hours, period.
Actually im in the middle of my IST291 college class atm.-People who judge a game on the first 10 levels shouldn't be playing anything other than WoW.
-I don't hate the quest setup, it's actually really well done for being in the unpolished old client state that it's in. (Release client is atleast 3 builds ahead of open beta). People who hate the quest system are generally WAR fans, I won't bash them because atleast WAR didn't ripoff WoW like the reverse happened.
-My $600ish dollar machine runs AoC really well on HIGH tab settings. I enjoy myself playing at the moment, but leveling 8 toons 1-13 is getting tedious until saturday (WOOT!). People who are bashing because their comp blows and is more ancient than a 1970 pickup truck have no room to complain in the first place....go buy an xbox.
-Haven't seen a single person bashing the UI at the moment.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Because you are just as bad as the haters.
Let everyone have their own opinion for the game, if they like it or hate it that's their choice. Telling everyone what you think is just further telling us why you like or want to give it a chance.
I'm still on the fence neither like it or hate, but it fell short of so many expectations and has nothing next gen about it.
If a MMO doesn't capture my attention in the 1st few minutes, I won't bother with the next few. I know if a game is for me pretty quickly. It doesn't need to "grow" on me. I'm not some bored teenager with loads of time on my hands. If a game isn't top notch, I don't bother anymore. I've seen it all and done it all. Anything average isn't worth my time.
I'm sure other working, married adults with kids, who been around for a while have a similar attitude.
AoC community is FAIL due to immature losers like yourself. Get over yourself already because you sir are fail.
Word , this is a deja vu community of Vanguard, The game is perfect , your computer sucks... lol
Irony is the post made that AoC will "kill" Vanguard.
Hey, here is your/their own crowd of blatent bashers.
I am going to continue with my preorder on AoC but I can't stop smiling everytime I see another full page of new post bashing AoC. To sad I was not around this forum when the VG beta was.
AoC is nothing compared to Vanguard, everyone can agree NO game can come close to that much failure in one year.You just shot yourself in the foot with that statement.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
I seem to be reading a lot of posts by people who didn't really enjoy the 1-20 experience, many seem under the impression the whole game is like the starting area and if they call it a tutorial it surely is one hell of a long one.
I feel giving my opinion to you is difficult since you are so uptight and god forbid anyone that disagrees with you
You just need to understand there are going to be many people who love what they see in Aoc and many who are going to dislike it, and if you are so confident in Funcom and Aoc, why even get so upset when people post their opinions or likes and dislikes?.
I played from 1-13 and I did enjoy it, I felt the tutorial was a bit long though. But anyway just try and relax a little, people will always have their opinions and with your post even more so :P
Regards
Manaia
A game should hook you the FIRST TIME YOU PLAY IT. If it doesn't, then do something else.
Been avoiding GTA4 till a few nights ago. Literally 30 seconds into the game my brain clicked.
This didn't happen with conan, instead I kept hearing "eq clone, lotr clone, etc. clone".
It looks cool, has a neat mechanic, but other than that, your standard MMO world.
WoW = Styled
AOC = Machine placed on top of a Styled story.
PLAY WURM ONLINE!! www.wurmonline.com
You just shot yourself in the foot with that statement.
Vanguard wasn't the first game to fail on a large scale, and it won't be the last. I doubt anyone can agree on anything regardless. There IS one thing Vanguard had that AoC won't......accessibility. Yeah, it took a heavier rig to run....but not near as heavy as THIS game will take. So, while Vanguard DID fail...it at least got more initial fishes than what AoC probably will. What this means is that, unless this game rocks beyond all measure for EVERYONE playing it, its gonna bomb even harder as it will have less users capable of playing.
This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.
This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self. Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.
Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?
Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".
I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".
If you love the god damn thing so much go play it and stop trying to woe others into your mind. You are either posting in between crashes or can't play it solid enough or you wouldn't be here.
That being said most players judge an MMO on the first 10 levels this gives them an idea on the battle system and how it will pan out.
If you hate AoC's battle system well then you can figure that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you hate the quest setup you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you hate how your machine runs it you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you don't like the UI you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
Obviously there is a reason why people are pulling away from the game, good for you and your guild their buddy glad you think you have some sort of superiority over everyone else cause your "guild" loves it. Stop being a damn fanboi and just accept that fact that any game can be judged the first couple hours, period.
Actually im in the middle of my IST291 college class atm.
-People who judge a game on the first 10 levels shouldn't be playing anything other than WoW.
-I don't hate the quest setup, it's actually really well done for being in the unpolished old client state that it's in. (Release client is atleast 3 builds ahead of open beta). People who hate the quest system are generally WAR fans, I won't bash them because atleast WAR didn't ripoff WoW like the reverse happened.
-My $600ish dollar machine runs AoC really well on HIGH tab settings. I enjoy myself playing at the moment, but leveling 8 toons 1-13 is getting tedious until saturday (WOOT!). People who are bashing because their comp blows and is more ancient than a 1970 pickup truck have no room to complain in the first place....go buy an xbox.
-Haven't seen a single person bashing the UI at the moment.
YOU are just further proving my point.
It's YOU YOU YOU, it's what YOU think.
because the premise of your argument is based off of something imaginary which we have not esperienced. Our experiences are reflective of a moment in gaming time which we can objectively call "facts" in our own beleifs, having the full experience from levels 1-13. Unfortunately this also present us with a conundrum, we are being influenced by what Funcom wants us to experience, and this is yet unknown to the general masses on how further experiences may alter our game's reality.
The fact is, people's experience in the tutorial portion of the game are the said person's hard facts. We have experienced this for ourselves. Funcom, by their own admittance, also states that this tutorial region known as Tortage will give you an ample experience of what the game will be like, and gives you a "taste" of the gaming itself. While i have not been captivated by this region, it does give you insight into the game play, mechanics and stability of said game.
So for me, yes, this was factual, and i can only imagine how the game progresses past level 13, but based on Funcom's excerpts from an interview performed here on mmorpg.com, one can stipulate that this is how gameplay will continue from here on in. SO if I do not enjoy the gameplay now, what, hypothetically, will change in the near future to alter my gaming experience once i fore go the lvl 13 experience?
My truth is based on my reality, as all truths are conceived from perceived, tested, or applied observations. Truths do not apparate from thin air, or an imaginary future.
That answer suffice the non-immature post you were seeking?
If the anti-AOC opinions/posts mad you this mad, and you truly are this happy with the game, and have NO DOUBTS that it will be the best thing ever... then stay out fo the dang forums. A flame for or against is still a frame my friend. I think we have a 15 year old who is taking to much to hear the idea that this is an "adult" game. I was a huge supporter of this game and tried ot get into the beta at every chance. I tried to sell my friends on it. But guess what, they aren't buying. And posts like this won't help bring new people or garner interest in the game. as someone said, let us know which server you're on so we can stay off it. Not to do you any favors, but for our own sanity and enjoyment.
And if it really takes only a couple hours to max to 20 and get all oyu can out of the area, then how can oyu possibly know that the remaining 1000 hours they wnat you to put into it will be worth it? Wait... stop trying to ask for common sense and thought from a flamer... dang, i always fall for it!
LOL OP you are pure comedy.
Not only is your post FAIL but Funcom not realising that to keep customers you have to catch peoples interest in the first 20 levels.
What planet do you live on where people will put up with the first 20 LEVELS of a game being total crap!??
Dream on.
Funcom = FAIL
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Ah youth so filled with hope. As I am probably twice your age and have been gaming since the 8088, I have some wisdom to pass along. Here is some information you should have researched before posting.
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http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/feature/1915
-From there, I asked Tharaldsen if there was any financial incentive at all in distributing the beta through Fileplanet and while, as stated above, he told us that the Conan beta was a needed expense to get feedback on the game, he did outline the benefits to choosing Fileplanet beyond their reliable download speed and prior relationship:
“We are just a few weeks away from launch, and when moving into the final push beta stage it’s important for any MMO to ensure a final push attention as well. In my experience most all MMOs these days use the last few weeks for a more marketing orientated beta process, and Fileplanet seems to be the #1 gaming site in that regards."
2 In the past the beta system -- in which thousands of gamers are given the opportunity to test games before release -- has been seen as an act of goodwill between developers and the pre-release fanbase of their games. As these are the players most likely to spread an MMOs virtues via word of mouth, open beta testing has always given developers the sort of grassroots hype that no amount of marketing cash can buy
3 "We burned out some quantity of our beta-testers when the game wasn't yet fun. As we've begun to sell the game, the people who hadn't participated in the beta became our fast early-adopters. And the people who did participate in the beta, we've had to go back to and say 'look, look, we promise: we know it wasn't fun two months ago, but we fixed all that. Really, come try it again.' We've had to go out and develop free programs to invite those people back for free before they go buy it. So the beta process, which we used to think of as a QA process, is really a marketing process." Richard Garriott
As you can see, current MMO companies use the last few weeks to market the product. Funcom included.
Another point, there are many things you can determine even from a early Beta. The one that disappoints me is the constant zoning and lenghty loading screens. Another is the constant button mashing combat system. Are you telling me these design decisions are going to change in the next 2 weeks? And as others have said, Beta expeiences generally mirror release.
Good luck with MMOs after a few disappointments you will learn how to pick up on the signs of a MMO that is not ready for release.
I am pretty sure all those "intelectually respondant" people left this forum long ago after reading posts by people like you. You sir are a fanboi, plain and simple. You seem to constantly complain bout the WoW and WAR fanbois, but really you are no better than them. Sure, we are all sick of those people coming into this forum and the AoC community forums and blasting on about how "AoC sux" and "WoW/WAR is the best thing ever!", but we are also sick of fanbois like you who give the community a bad name. So please, if you like the game fine, go play it, enjoy, live it, have sex with it, whatever, just leave your fanbois rants at the door and leave the forums open for intelligent discussion.
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AoC community is FAIL due to immature losers like yourself. Get over yourself already because you sir are fail.
"you sir are fail"? What are you living in the 1800's? lolYou're all acting like a bunch of kids squabbling over something as pointless as a video game. Who gives a damn. You either like it or you don't.
QFT
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
From the closed beta folk, tortage is much more fleshed out then the rest of the game. More voice acting, more quests, more polish. From closed I read that there is a lack of content past 20. I also read that the combat doesn't ever open up to something much more then we have. I only say this as many people are using "the part you have seen is the worst part everything gets better", to the same sad reality in all games is WYSIWYG, there isn't an amazing game change right after where open beta ends. Then there is Siege, sounds great, no one has ever seen it outside of FC, is it even close to being done?
If you hate the game, don't play it.
Very simple.
Where's the love guys? We are all MMORPGers here, more or less. Save the fighting to the PvP. No point on trying to feed your opinion to someone else, since you will lose either way.
Please post the link where you "read" this information.