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Age of Gank
Lobotomist
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For people that didnt play in PVP mayhem OB.
Here is what happened: AOC just became new definition for word GANK
People are ganked moment they exit the city door. There is a minute where you can not move because the game is HD file swapping. Than you are sent to respawn point , where another gank squad is waiting.
Now if you manage to escape spawn point death lock. You go into the world.
You try to talk with quest givers. It locks you into dialogue animation. The place is gank camped - dead !
You try to do a quest. Fight a mob...there is camping ranger waiting that your health and stamina falls. Gank!
Coupled with FPS problems , stalling and precaching of shaders. That some people had , and others didnt (and took advantage of)
Now add to this a fact that any high level can come and kill low levels, anytime....
AOC really elevated word gank to whole new hights!
Now...here is the problem
We all love PVP
But AOC gives you two server rule sets:
1. FFA PVP - That as we seen in OB is PERFECT for gankers. Actually it looks like it was carefully constructed to give every possible advantage to griefing and ganking.
2. No PVP at all - Only in one area + pvp minigames
Basically
AOC caters either to: Gankers or to Carebears 
What about people that want meaningful PVP ?
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This was a 1-2 day "FFA PvP Close of Beta Event". This was designed to be a Gank Fest. The release will not be the same.
I don't think the main game is going to be like that. What they did was make everyone a enemy to each other. Wouldn't it be the different races against each other. Not 100% positive on that but I hope it is like that or I am not going to play on the PvP servers.
If we protest more maybe funcom will do something about it.. and I seriously think they will... man I almost said Blizzard instead of funcom.
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I like the idea of opening the PvP rules up to ganking. It forces the players to police themselves.
Agreed!
I Could not even go out and do one quest without beign ganked over and over agian. I was soo stoked on being lvl 20 to see what the game was really like, but i could not even play cuz of the ganking. Well i guess i will Jus have to wait till it goes live to play on an PvE server
More guild Vs guild mate, no race Vs race here.
I guess I will be playing on the PvP server also.Hope we will be able to get more adult gamers to join us for the guild at AGE.
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Zoning, griefing and graveyard camping will be a problem on a levelbased game. There are some quests that has limited resouces and there it's easier to kill the other guy than wait for respawn
Thus roll PvE or be prepared to level in a group or (at a later stage) being escorted by a 80.
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All server types will have PvP, if you want meaningfull PvP (whatever that means) then the normal ruleset would probably be the way to go. I'll be on the RP-PvP server myself, as you can't RP in Conan without being able to chop off your enemies head whenever you please. Also for me there is no meaning to PvP if you can only do it over there and all the smack talkers hide 24/7 in safe zones.
So it's either one way or the other, you can't have both. If you don't like being ganked then find some friends to back you up, it isn't a solo game in FFA PvP servers.
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@ The OP, you seem to be complaining about something you dont like. If you dont like FFA PvP, thats perfectly fine.
You dont have to play on an FFA PvP server, there are PvE and PvP servers, roll on the PvE. I don't know why you would even bring this up when there are specifically different server rulesets for you to roll on.
Unless, however, you are a CAREBARE and wish for the PvP server rules to be even more lax than they are when there is NO need to change them. People who wish for that style of PvP, can roll on those servers. People who want consensual objective pvp can role on the PvE server.
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The quest dialog lock is bad for FFA server. It's easy kill. You can just hide near the quest NPC and waiting for the next prey. It's like a sport.
Want to kill someone, simple? just hide and follow him, the moment he talk to the NPC, open fire. Better yet, know the quest, choose to camp those with long dialogs, multiple pages of choices. Heheh, he will be so dead before getting out of the quest screen.
However it would be perfect for baiting people right? He attacks you whilst your in the quest screen, then three of your buddies appear at your side and mash him with clubs
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
The douche bag of the day award goes to you my friend. you smell so fresh like a fresh summers eve. But back on topic I was hoping for meaningful PVP myself as well not just a bunch of skilless griefers and campers. It's so hard to kill someone while they are loading into a resurrection point (insert sarcasam anywhere). please, give me a break. all you players with no skills to fight one on one need to go back to WOW. whats even the fun in it? I'm a 190lb guy and it would be like me beating up a ten year old while he's waking up.
"For a wounded man shall say to his assailant, 'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.' Such is the rule of honour..."
Oh please.
So you disregard one group ("carebears") and elevate yourself (?) above them but complain that ganking is not "meaningful" pvp.
Some would say that it "is" meaningful as it makes sure you surround yourself with allies and are always prepared. Some would also say that if you don't like full on FFA pvp the you are a bit carebear, no? That that is the REAL pvp.
And meaningful? I've yet to see a person define that to my satisfaction, as what has meaning to one person might be off the mark for another.
Listen, I'm sorry that you don't like the Conan ruleset but it seems that it just takes one extreme or another. Perhaps players can then pick and find something that they find meaningful themselves.
edit: so here's a good example. I walk into a bar (hmmm seems like the start of a joke?) and suddenly someone starts hitting me with arrows. Now, at this time I'm not familiar with my new lvl 20 character so I run out to better learn what I'm about. Then I go in and that person is not to be seen. Another guy comes in, we start talking and suddnely someone uncloaks next to him and surprise attacks him.
Well, I'm not about to let that happen so I attack his attacker. The attacker goes down.
Teamwork. and with someone who I don't really know.
Now this is not to say that I'm going to be signing on to the whole FFA server thing as I already play one FFA game. That is enough for me.
But it doesn't make it any less meaningful and could be exciting. I really bet it will. However, it isn't for everyone sure. But it shouldn't lessen the people who want it.
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You obviously know nothing about ganking. Heheh. Only gank innocent people. Learn to observe. Bait is different from innocent people running around doing quest. Plus, gankers usually have a lot more patient. If you have buddies? so what, he will wait until your buddy leave and gank you again. Have all the time in the world just to make your life miserable.
What would Conan say to the whelps who are ganked? "Crom answers no one, Dog!"
Ah, now that they have crafted a truly barbaric simulation that brings out the beast in us all, the first crys of the weak are heard at the hands of the strong. Did you get your money's worth yet?
Remember, MMO's get lonely for the alpha types who run off company with their antics. Funcom will realize this behavior hits their bottom line. It will be nerfed.
Crom will answer with the nerf bat.
the real game is not like this there is no pvp in major citys where you get your quests
I think people that enjoy Ganking are just people craving for attention
...cute
But back to the point
When i say meaningful PVP
i mean: You need
FULL LOOTING , EXPERIENCE LOSS
Without this, what is stopping griefer from griefing? He fears nothing case he has nothing to loose.
And there is no way he can be punished... Why should he ever stop? You can bring 100 people looking for him. He will die few times , so what ? He gains triple from taking gank opportunities and easy kills.
POINTLESS....
You want real PVP ? Than make it real...
Agree with you, but I also agree that with the way the pvp is atm im sorry but I have no fun in spawn killing or being spawn killed not being able to move around without that happening as well. I think I understand now why other games have have had so many troubles with pvp free for alls. Luckily though as you stated there will be other options than just the current, rp pvp and pve servers so should be enough to make anyone happy.
bars are the same way, gank at the door while your spawing in. no thanks AOC if this is the way it is going to be.
it doesnt take an extremely smart dev to simply have a solution to this problem by now, if it isnt here (and it wasnt in the pvp beta(it wasnt), then it likely wont be in the finished game until a patch or two hit.
i can imagine the pvp servers (grin), and the rp pvp servers (lol those are supposed to be heavily regulated? riiiiight, i can see it now, gankamania).
cant wait to see the game in 5 months, should be sweet.
can you smell that?!!...............there is nothing quite like it.....................the smell of troll in the morning............i love that smell.
Oh heaven forbid you're on an FFA server and you're being killed by other players at inconvenient times, either join a PVE server or harden up.
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