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Stop comparing this to WOW get your facts straight
zelpher
Member Posts: 53
This game is being based off Dark Age of Camelot !!!! It is not a wow clone.......there is no such thing as a wow clone
. If anyone keeps up with mmos you would know that blizzard was once in talks to make this game for Games workshop and pulled out !!! They decided to make a mmo based of warcraft lore which is based on games workshops early pen and paper/minatures games. Now that Mythic is making it they are using their own system which is a exact copy of Daoc wiht some polish. Graphics don't make or break a game look at grand theft auto graphics sucked but gameplay was awesome. Tired of people saying everything is a wow clone, read up and get some facts then post plz!!!!!!! In any matter don't call any mmo wow clone unless the company that made it has no proir mmo under their belt, and the game looks like they rip the graphics straight from the wow cds
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Warhammer Online is using an improved engine similar to that used to create Dark Age of Camelot, but the game itself is in no way based off of Dark Age of Camelot. The only similarities lie within the successful concepts taken from Mythic's DAoC and implemented into Mythic's Warhammer Online.
STOP WHINING!
Uh thats what i said...they had a roman based game before warhammer..then dropped it to make warhammer. They are using the base concepts form Daoc... But most people say they stole teh pvp and all that from wow...AND raiding was invented in EQ wow fanbois along wiht DKP which means Dragon kill Points!! Now who stole from who?
You just need to send the following link to anyone who uses that tired arugment that WAR is a WoW clone:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10/
And point out this comic is 2 years old, so their argument is even more lame because it's so old.
Stop posting these threads! There's only like x billion of them and they all cause the same troll filled chaos! Talk about the Game, this isn't talking about the game. Its defending it from people we could careless if they play or not.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I was refering to you saying "This game is being based off Dark Age of Camelot"
I guess I just took what you said literally, rather than what you were trying to get across.
STOP WHINING!
Why shouldn't players compare one game to another? If we can't compare, how are we gonna say if it's good or not?
And I couldn't care less what the game is based on, Chuck Norris could have had the original idea for all I care, - it looks like WoW, and that's enough WoW-clone for me.
Um... do you see the irony here?
You are bitching about this game not being a WOW clone but are 'proud' of it being a DAoC clone?
Ummm.. WTF?
And yes, there are things such as WoW clones... look at SWG for an example of what tried to emulate the wow formula.. and that's not the only game.
So, if you are happy with a shinier, more polished DAoC clone.. um.. more power to ya... but most of us are looking for a game with at least some innovation and new gameplay...not the same bullshit over and over and over again.
If you want DAoC, then go and play DAoC. We don't need a remake.
kthanxbye.
im not a fan of warhammer, but i do remember ia interview with the lead designer of the wery first Warcraft strategi game, and he was talking about getting a feel and look like the one in Warhammer. so if anyone is copying anything its warcraft.. as usual.
/PS dont ask me to find that link, its probably out there but the amounth of search hits u need to go through is just mindblowing atm.
Look at the big picture. WOW is like finding an inmense valley full of diamons, they are making 1 million of euros per month. Remember what Paul said in that conference, they (Blizzard) sent their ships to unknown lands and came back with riches.
That's what EA Mythic wants, period. So the best bet is to make the new WOW. Making the new DAoC is not. Of course they are inspired by their previous game, but the light to know what makes the masses play a game is WOW, and they surely are following it, in my oppinion.
"Warcraft" sounds way cooler than "Warhammer", much better name, much!
The relevancy that Warcraft copied Warhammer to me as a consumer that has no ties to either IP is exactly nill.
All I care about as a consumer is whether the new game does not already resemble something I was already playing. That one copied the other in some long lost past in some other genre is of no value to me. All that matters to me is whether MMO B resembles MMO A.
If so that's MMO B's loss, not MMO A, for doing again what I already know even though regardless of whether they may have been the first to actually use it somewhere else.
(This argument is disconnected from whether or not they actually have any similarities or not between the two right now)
It may be somewhat diffrent, and it may have taken aspects from DaoC..The fact still remains that it's very close in looks of World of Warcraft and in gamelplay style(RvR) from DaoC..
The other day I read a Swedish gaming mag(Level), they had an article "comparing WoW VS Warhammer" with text and pictures side by side..This article was very long. It was hard to tell the diffrence between these 2 games sometimes...And even if they didnt mentioned them as "clones" thay said that "these 2 games where extremly close in looks and gameplay"..They also testplayed the game...
So..If even the proffesional gaming reporters "almost" calls it a WoW clone, so why can't we do it aswell..?
Well just some thoughts..
here we go....yet again.......LOL
WAR in no way resembles WOW.
Stupid trolls Go back under your bridge or your grandma's basement..........
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
Players that only look at graphics and then say ' Meh this is a <insert ip> clone' are not to be taken seriously.
It really depends on what your definition of a clone is. Not to paint myself into a corner but the graphics ARE the same, the UI IS the same, the new spell and abillities you receive are in the same format, the pvp is REALLY close.
However, non of the above turns me off to the game or makes me angry in anyway. People will flock to the game even if down the road the beta leaks are abound with "this is the same as wow" threads. MMO's have shelf lifes and WoW's is winding down (far from over but its lossing its appeal for many). I guess my point is it doesn't matter, the IP and the shiney box will bring the crowd eager for a new game not a new format or genre. I didn't get bored of WoW because of the gameplay or mechanics. I think its a great, polished game. I quit because you can only do the same thing so many times. WAR will bring the crowds there is no doubt about that. What it looks like doesn't even factor in to this players decision and i'm sure i'm not alone.
LoL Zelph, I feel your pain. Sadly wow brought in far too many new MMO comers that need some serious mmo history checks. For example, I heard a comment the other day that rocked my world, " WoW is the first mmo to ever establish a battleground!". If anything WAR resembles so many great things that DAOC had and more. If you compare how the game runs animation wise and the overall feel of the game it just seems more like DAOC than anything. Still screenshots, sure, they may look like wow a bit in graphic terms, but overall gameplay and feel of the game will lean heavy to DAOC.
This is kind of like Cherry Vanilla Dr Pepper, Cherry being WoW.. Vanilla being Daoc.. Dr Pepper being Warhammer.. Its Warhammer, with a taste of Cherry.. and a hint of Daoc.. Also don't even kid yourself that this is a DAOC remake.. "a hint of Daoc" nothing more.. nothing less.. Proof of that lies in what the game looked like 12 months ago (before the complaints about pvp)
Call of Duty 4 and Rainbow 6, Vegas 2 looked very similiar yet I loved CoD4 and played Vegas 2 for about an hour and never turned it back on again. Mass Effect and Gears of War looked similiar and I loved both games for totally different reasons.
Yes, I can see how people think War and Wow look similiar, but if they dont bother to do any research on War dont waste your breath trying to enlighten them. Imo, Wow has one of the worst players communities in an MMo. Selfish, spoiled, immature, elitiest, to name a few. So if the vast majority of these players think its a wow clone and wont play, I personally dont mind. I hope that the War community is close to what DAoC was.
They have streets named after the WOw community, "One Way" and "Dead End"
Frankly I just want something new and WaR is one I will play when it comes out. Maybe its a clone maybe its not but who cares. If you do not like it do not play it.
New proof that WAR is not WoW
www.youtube.com/watch
It Doesn't matter what people think it matters that WAR is sticking true to the IP with the graphics you go back 25 years and you will see that they have the same graphics for Greenskins and the same graphics for humans
IT IS HOW WAR LOOKS GET OVER IT WoW is really a Warhammer clone off of its graphics thats pretty much been stated by both blizzard and Mythic as well as Games workshop yopu think it will be a clone ...give it up the features are there to be seen WoW doesnt have them WotLk comes who know all i know is i wont care because i will have WAR...
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It is fair to say that if you played WoW this game will be very familiar to you. It will feel like Deja Vu. This is coming from the folks in media that have had a hands on preview. It is a very smart business move on Mythics part, IMO, because people like what is familiar to them. It looks like WoW only darker! It plays like WoW too! Brilliant!
So suck it up and take it like a man - the game is similar to WoW anyone who has played both has said so. Sure, the reason why you fight and group is different and Mythic is to be applauded for it, but at the end of the day the game smacks of WoW.
For me, there are things about this game i like but there are things too similar to WoW for my comfort. Some of the features I don't like about WoW are in this game too. Booooo!
I don't understand why you folks just can't accept the truth - it plays like World of Warcraft. Do you honestly think that Mythic has never heard of WoW and that they don't want what WoW has? Of course they have and of course they do! And how do you relieve your competitor of his consumer? By doing what he has done - better! and that is the question you should ask yourself. Not is Warhammer online similair to WoW but, is it better than WoW?
Then vote with your wallet.
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hello all new to this game WAR never posted about games i just waited for the release and check it out my self but this game here looks awsome
i am a WOW player and to me WAR doesnt look the same looks fresh i dont care about how it looks.. what i need is a good gameplay PVP,quests,etc and the most inportant thing to me is community the ppl we all going to play with
but yes i am tired of playing with the ppl on WOW i am an euro player (holland sorry about my spelling or typonese) annyway i am an euro player even left the euro game "2years of grinding" and bought the US version "1 year grinding" still its the same "eliteplayers" lol the thing is i think wow is dieing so i waited for Aoc bought the game but wth no freeroam i meen loading screens everywhere even when you go in a building "inn" lmao that game is 24gigs installed lol 24gigs of loading yeah lol fighing system is awsome but that's the only thing that is great so now i am waiting for WAR and it looks like that game is going to be my next home haha
I don't care who cloned whom.... What matters is, whose the BETTER one.
Really if a clone ends up being the better, aka Warcraft, then that's just it, they came out first with the mmorpg and they had the fame with the RTS games with it , the characters in those were very popular and in their own way A LOT "cooler" than Warhammer's.
Also people borrow stuff from each other, i mean just look at JRR Tolkien, he gathered a lot of old nordic myths together and other sagas and made LOTR.... Blizzard got their inspiration from Warhammer and thus created their super hit Warcraft universe.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
It's not a WOW clone, but it will be the closest thing to a WOW2:
BG with steroids, rip-off of WOW crafting system, WOW improved graphics (yes it's WAR's graphics, but the fact is that WOW put them first in an MMO, so that's what is in milions of players minds).
Only, it will be less of an open world, without fishing, underwater content and diving. Not that WOW had much underwater content, but it had some. So in this sense it looks like it is stressing the Them Park part of WOW... something that seemed impossible, WOW looking so much like a Theme Park back then, but MMO companies are very good at braking new grounds
Regarding DAoC... I think DAoC veterans are up to a big disappointment.