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DX10 vs DX9
Paincake
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Do I have a reason to finally take my dusted Vista cd from the closet, so I can take advantage of DX10?
I'm not looking for miniscule graphical differences... that is honestly the least I care about. But I am definitely interested in perfomance. If the perfomance is increased over XP I will install it back on my HDD.
Can anyone confirm this?
Q6600
2GB
3850
Thanks in Advance!
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I have great performance through Vista with High Settings. Unfortunately, DX10 hasn't been enabled yet, so if you were to upgrade for that reason alone, I would wait.
Has anyone heard when they are planning on activating DX10? I thought that was one of their big selling points...
The game already looks incredible just on DX9. I can't wait until they let us use DX10.
If dx10 isnt enabled then how am I running the game in dx10 according to my video settings. I don't understant why people assume DX10 isn't enabled. Just because you can't do dx10.1 because they don't support sm 4.0 yet, there is DX 10.0 withtout sm 4.0.
Not saying I might not be wrong but I do have it set to dx10 and sm 3.0 in my video options, I would think if that wasn't working it would revert to dx9.
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Performance decreases with vista, and also with dx10, differences between dx9 and dx10 are minimum, microsoft only wanted to trick some people into buying vista.
Maybe in one year from now it's worth to buy...
Go windows xp, dont feed even more microsoft, cause they dont give a damn about windows users.
Yeah I fell for the Vista Dx10 trap because I didn't research it enough. Now I am only getting to use 2.7 gb of the 4gb of ram my system has unless I pay a chunk of cash and upgrade to Vista 64-bit. Not saying I don't like the look and interface of Vista because I actually like it better than XP but it is a system hog.
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Agreed.
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DirectX 10 has some HUGE potential and should make the game look even better than it does now.
I don't know where you guys got your information, but DX10 should look a LOT better than DX9 once they get it in game. Check out this video:
www.youtube.com/watch
Or this one:
www.youtube.com/watch
The difference looks pretty huge to me...
Yeah I fell for the Vista Dx10 trap because I didn't research it enough. Now I am only getting to use 2.7 gb of the 4gb of ram my system has unless I pay a chunk of cash and upgrade to Vista 64-bit. Not saying I don't like the look and interface of Vista because I actually like it better than XP but it is a system hog.
So u went from XP64bit to Vista32bit ?
How am I not playing in DX10.0 when I have it enabled and am playing the game? I understand DX10.1 not being supported becuase it requires sm 4.0 which is not available in the shader options.
In reply to Mahje: I don't honestly know if I was running XP 32=bit or 64-bit. I only had 2 gigs of ram on my other rig. I very well might have been running 32-bit, which correct me if I'm wrong won't recognize 4gb of ram either.
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Horsepoop. That video wasn't a review, it was a paid advertisement. I've been 3d gaming since Orchid cards came out. I've been hearing the same bull from Directx fanboys since 1995. You don't upgrade before the stuff has been released for close to a year. Only people who are willing to pay for the experience of beta testing should upgrade ahead of time. Period.
Well, I think DX10 is partly enabled.
I am running with the following:
Vista 64-bit Home Premium
Intel C2D e8400 @3.6GHz on Abit IP35P
4 x 2GB RAM (8GB) DDR2 Ocz Repear HPC CL4
Club 3D 9800 Gx2 1MB
I am running this on DX10. 1680x1050 every setting is maxed and bloom is on. I get 35-80 FPS, probably higher at some point, but really haven't checked it all the time.
I get the DX10 lighting effects from tree canopies etc. And someone said that DX10 works in AoC apart from Shader 4.0.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Exactly how I am running it, and what I have been trying to get across in this thread. Dx10.0 yes, Dx10.1 with sm 4.0 no.
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I tried dx10 on conan and it definitely adds some better visuals to the game, but either way this game looks amazing and Im running it one a crappy laptop graphics card cant imagine what it might look like on a good one.
There hasn't ever been an official word as far as I know about DX10 enabled at launch or not by Funcom.
I can also select DX10 both ingame and in the settingsfile. *shrugs*.
Although, I have to say, I can't see much of a difference, except for the water, and maybe that is just wannabe imagination.
LOTRO and dx10 e.g. is barely a difference imho. HGL though, is a difference in terms of fog, particles, etc.
And no, vista isn't crap. It's just a common opinion of microsoft haters sp they don't have to switch from what they like and are used to (don't get me wrong, I don't care for MS either). When XP came, everybody was "aaargh, it's just money making, such a crap, stick to w2k..... sounds familiar, doesn't it.....)
using vista 64 with 4gb, runs smooth. the only disadvantage is, that you can not get 64bit codecs *shrugs*, I can live with that though.
Slick move by Funcom leaving the options selectable I might add. The placebo effect fooled a majority of the players and the now minor backlash is easily lost in the shuffle.
Slick move by Funcom leaving the options selectable I might add. The placebo effect fooled a majority of the players and the now minor backlash is easily lost in the shuffle.
How long ago was this statement made by funcom, because I am in the EA and untill the very day of EA launch DX10 was not selectable ingame at all in the video options it was patched in. I am not even saying it matters as the game looks amazing anyway.
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I play Crysis on Very High on XP.
www.gamespot.com/features/6182140/index.html
With better perfomance.
Yeah I fell for the Vista Dx10 trap because I didn't research it enough. Now I am only getting to use 2.7 gb of the 4gb of ram my system has unless I pay a chunk of cash and upgrade to Vista 64-bit. Not saying I don't like the look and interface of Vista because I actually like it better than XP but it is a system hog.
Performace decreases? Whatever. If you have enough RAM to run Vista, do it. These XP fanbois are as bad as the WoW fanbois. Vista runs fine, it is NOT Windows ME with new cloths, yada yada yada.
"Don't feed Microsoft?" "They don't give a damn about Windows users?" You mean don't purcahse great products from a fantastic company that has singlehandedly brought more technological power to more people in the world than any company in human history? Oooh Kay... I am certain that is an unemotional, non-antiestablishment concept. I am certain that the people of Microsoft (of which I am part because I own stock in our company) I am certain that we get together and fill out our Proxy cards to make certain that the people that don't care the most about our customers stays in the leadership roll.
Anyhow, enough with the Gabiru anti-freemarket troll...
Lazarus - I would go ahead and get Vista 64-Bit. Use all your RAM and have the option (egads that word that the socialists hate so much) to play in DX10 if you want to. I just purchased Vista 64 Premium through NewEgg last week for about $120. It is hardly a large investment. And my personal review - Vista64 for the win Woot!
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Nobody is assuming anything. It's in the settings, but it doesn't do anything yet.
This is from funcom a couple days ago:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/179830
DX10 is NOT enabled yet in AoC - use RivaTuner while running the game tells you the game is using DX9 even when DX10 is selected - it just reverts back to DX9.
DX10 is a huge improvment over DX9 and you'll gain perfomance on a machine that handle the Vista requirments - XP is fine for those running 3-4 year old computers - but Vista and future Windows 7 will be the way to go for all games.
Slick move by Funcom leaving the options selectable I might add. The placebo effect fooled a majority of the players and the now minor backlash is easily lost in the shuffle.
How long ago was this statement made by funcom, because I am in the EA and untill the very day of EA launch DX10 was not selectable ingame at all in the video options it was patched in. I am not even saying it matters as the game looks amazing anyway.
Nothing was selectable for changing until the launch. Not your controls, or graphics options. So using the 'wasn't selectable before and is now' is not a valid arguement. I'm running DX9 and see all the things others are saying they are seeing w/ DX10.
The bottom line is this - Microsoft owns the market. There is no way to rebute this fact. MS owns it, operates it, and quite frankly, without it, you wouldn't be playing games in the first place. Sure, you can play games on Mac - but then Mac would own your gaming priviledges, and you would be in the same boat.
That being said, there will come a time when you will have to upgrade to Winsdows Vista, and you will be forced to play on DX10 cards. Which is fine - that's how it has worked in the past, that's how it works now, and that's how it will always work. The point is, that for now, you still have an option as a consumer and to make a great cost effective decision.
DX9 is still alive, and it still works, and it still looks great. Even better, you can have great performance and great quality for the same amount of money you would spend on a PS3 or XBOX 360 (your alternatives for good gaming.) In a couple of years, this may not be true. Probably by this time next year, or halfway though 2010, you will surely see the difference that DX10 can offer, and will be happy to finally upgrade.
As for myself, I am choosing to wait. There just isn't a substantial reason for me to make that dive into DX10 at this time. And to further that - unless you have the money to spare.... there really isn't a reason for anyone to do it.
FYI: Crytek's next project is going to be in OpenGL with regard to their render engine.
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Nobody is assuming anything. It's in the settings, but it doesn't do anything yet.
This is from funcom a couple days ago:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/179830
Again, very slick move by Funcom allowing the dx10 option to be selectable even though it does nothing. Look how many people they fooled already. Most people in-game are still claiming they see the dx10 effects and calling people who says otherwise "haters" and "noobs".
For the record.
1)
For most of the beta time dx10 was enabled in AoC (At least thats is funcom's position). However, Funcom disabled the ability to use Dx10, because honestly it was lagging people far to bad. (Some bad code some where or something, who knows i don't).
They turned it off late in the beta.
2)
Windows XP out preforms windows Vista when it comes to games. (In FPS) .
DX 10 LOWERS your FPS over dx9.
DX10 does look better than dx9, however, to what degree is individually disputed. Personally atm for modern graphic engines dx10 doesn't do anything for me.
3)
Funcom will support dx10 , so no massive worries here.
4)
This thread and others like it show how sad many of mmo'ers and forum goers are. Often misinformed, yet ready to testify incorrectly.
Because i can click a dx10 button that means i have it...
Because i built a NEW Computer with vista and it was faster than my older one with XP means Vista is faster ...
Because Funcom said that their combat would be revolutionary ... Oh darn we already know this ones not true.
I mean I don't know what the issue is, are people just to lazy to look up the reality of an situation? Are people to bias to look for the true? What is it that keeps us as humans in the dark, its almost like we purposefully seek to avoid the truth, because knowing the truth would cause us to what THINK ?
Sorry for the rant but this stuff always does get me thinking.
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