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Necromancers are not what I expected
I rolled up a necro just to see how they are. The thing I immediately noticed is that the pets do not tank for you, but are more of a dps thing. Is this generally how it stays throughout the game, or do you start getting pets that can tank for you in pve?
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There's games where you can have pets tank for you?
Every time I've seen, or used, a "pet" it was for damage or some other misc buff/debuff type of effect.
Sure, there are games where pets tank for you.
WoW has the Warlock's Void Walker and the Hunter's pet tank's aswell.
DAoC has their pet classes.
Thats just a couple off the top of my head.
But I'm afraid I don't have an answer to the OP's question. Wish I could help. Sorry
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You must have not played many MMOs.
EQ1 necro pet tanked
EQ2 several pets that tank
SWG pet tanked
WoW - warlock pet tanks
D2 - Necro golem tanks
I don't know what games you've been playing but they sound like they suck.
EQ I & II also have pets that tank for you.. I would also like to know the answer to this question.. before I buy, cause I always play a Necro
Necros have 0 reasons to complain you guys have the most bad ass fatailty.
You must have not played many MMOs.
EQ1 necro pet tanked
EQ2 several pets that tank
SWG pet tanked
WoW - warlock pet tanks
D2 - Necro golem tanks
I don't know what games you've been playing but they sound like they suck.
I didn't recall pet's tanking in SWG; prenerf Rancors? I started about 6 months after launch.Diablo 2, ah...what a great game that was. I forgot about the Necromancer's Golem. Did they really tank? I played the Amazon and Sorcerer more then anything else.
Thought WoW was garbage and never played it above a lvl 17 character. Very polished though.
Never got into Everquest and EQ2 was cancled imediately after the first rewrite. I no longer do SOE games.
Maybe it's just been my playstyle, but I've always thought "pets" were for damage or some other buff type of effect.
OP, have you seen the character builder for AoC? I think there was mentioning of pets and their effects/purposes.
WoW, EQ, EQ2, FFXI, CoH/CoV, Lineage 2, SwG (before they went insane and did the NGE),
I agree with Sawtooth tho. Necro pets are almost worthless. They cant even hold aggro...even with their fury buff...and that buff is a long recharge
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
i wouldnt call that a bad ass fatality. Its fun. But not that great lol. Warriors have the best IMO
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You must have not played many MMOs.
EQ1 necro pet tanked
EQ2 several pets that tank
SWG pet tanked
WoW - warlock pet tanks
D2 - Necro golem tanks
I don't know what games you've been playing but they sound like they suck.
I didn't recall pet's tanking in SWG; prenerf Rancors? I started about 6 months after launch.Diablo 2, ah...what a great game that was. I forgot about the Necromancer's Golem. Did they really tank? I played the Amazon and Sorcerer more then anything else.
Thought WoW was garbage and never played it above a lvl 17 character. Very polished though.
Never got into Everquest and EQ2 was cancled imediately after the first rewrite. I no longer do SOE games.
Maybe it's just been my playstyle, but I've always thought "pets" were for damage or some other buff type of effect.
OP, have you seen the character builder for AoC? I think there was mentioning of pets and their effects/purposes.
Well I guess that would influence what you knew about pets if your play style was for DPS. I know in some games that they give classes with pets a choice between a dps buff pet and a tank pet. And I agree with you that both WoW and EQ2 are pure shit. However, AoC isn't looking any better but I don't want to get into that now.
OP, I don't know how chat works in game or anything but you might want to find some higher level players either Necros or people who know necros/played with high lvl necros and ask them your question.
At level20 so far and nope my pets don't tank at all. It's disappointing, but eh none of the other mage classes can tank or have a means of stopping the mobs.
They CAN tank ONLY with Frenzy casted.
What I don't get is there is 3 talents devoted to pet defenses. So it makes absolutely no sense. I guess for aoe purposes? I dunno.. they never have died from a mob in my experience.
Maybe later on we get a tanker type.
So far I have corrupter and mutilator, which both basically do the same thing except 1 procs a bleed and 1 procs an unholy DD when they attack. Both only cost 1 point each.
So no ezmode for pet classes so far. Good.
Do you want to play the game, or have your pets do all the work while you watch TV?
Whats really funny is Funcom has "the" best pet system (that im aware of) from their other MMO AO (Anarchy Online), their pet system is one of the best pet systems ive seen so far. So its funny to hear AoC's pet system isnt on par with what they have already created in the past.
PS.
Im not including OLD school SWG CH'ers and Bio-Engies that used to be my favorite pet system.
In pvp do you attack the pet or the caster? Caster if you have half a clue. So why wouldn't the npc's do the same?
I don't mind the pet system at all. Just took time to get used to.
I actually get to enjoy the pleasure of having a pet, but also not feeling like my pet is 100 times stronger then me. It made absolutely no sense in other games for me to be able to control a being stronger then my character himself. It's absurd.
This seams like more along the lines of D&D style. They're just supplemental damage. Not meant to tank. They can tank given the right skill, but not forever.
Plus we get an pretty badass aoe fear. Also if you go down Reanimation talents you get an aoe root/snare. So who knows. Just need to formulate new strategies.
Humans pound for pound are probably one of the weakest beings on the planet yet we tame bears,lions,elephants etc. so in that respect I don't see why it would so boggle your mind that beings of superior intellect would control those with more strength but that could be just me.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Sorry but this sounds like you are making assumptions about players I usually play classes that have pets and have never done it because I wanted to watch t.v etc. I've played a few mmo's and have found that the closest I can come to letting my pet do all the work for me is in wow maybe CoV but it's hard for me to say that as I only played that for a few weeks heck I play Lotro now and have found if I send my pet in against anything within 5 levels of me he can die and not do more than 100 points of damage if I don't enter into the combat myself.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
funny when i think necromancer i think of undead skeletons something similiar to diablo 2 where you have a mini skeleton army at your aid. I never associated necro with a pet tank
Matter of fact, if you send your pets in, the mobs make a beeline right for you.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
completely missed the picture there, my friend. There's no mode at all. For the most part the pets are there for looks. They do very little damage and very rarely get the mobs attention.Matter of fact, if you send your pets in, the mobs make a beeline right for you.
Notice my post about going for the caster.
As far as damage is concerned. I believe they should work more as a dot, not your main form of damage.
Edit: Although I think only npc's should be intelligent enough to go straight for the caster, not mobs. But, the system is set up so you can't just go around completing some of the harder content in the game solo.
as someone stated earlier, mages have nothing to help them tank so why complain?
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
If they don't want necro pet to tank, they should not have designed the class skill that way. Look at the necro spells. Their main source of damage comming from DOTs. It means that they can't kill the mob as quick as the mage can, so they either need someone to tank for them or they need kick ass crowd control.
They don't have good crowd control at all, if their pet can't tank, that's just horrible class design.
Virtually every Caster/Pet Class should have a pet that tanks.
There should always is a balance between the caster and the pet. The fragile caster should be responsible for the damage output, and the pet should be responsible for the damage intake (through high HP or effective taunt skills). When you create a pet class with a DPS caster and DPS pets, you sometimes run into problems and may dislike the outcome of the majority of your fights. However if you create that balance, rather than putting all of the weight on one side of the rowboat, things work out.
Perhaps it has something to do with lore, or the fact that AoC has a different combat system and all they wanted to introduce was pets that run in to whail on the enemy. No idea, but pet casters definately need tanking pets.
STOP WHINING!
Dunno how it gets way above 20, but at least UNTIL 20-something NO pets can tank in AoC. Working as intended.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
It's not really that hard to throw your "expectations" out the window and just...go with what's been given to you.
It is supposed a different game all by itself. RIGHT?
I've researched into the matter a bit, and as far as I could find out, the Necromancers do not get a pet able to tank at any point.
Someone described the Necromancer's pets as 'visual dots' which seems very true.
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