Normally the shop i bought it dont take games back this case FREERECORD SHOP, but with knowlage of no timecard not shipped with it, they where friendly to take game back:).
They did not know about gamecard , posible of payment, headquaters did not inform them about this.
Nobody force me into practise like this, to buy a game and when i wanne play game i need to buy timecard.
Funcom mistake i win they lose.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
what happened to the 1 month free most mmorpg had when you buy? what a bastard company
Horrible horrible company... Oh wait, you retard, they do give you a month free... The activation code is on the back of the booklet. You can put pay by cash instead of credit card when you register with your activation code, thus you don't have to pay because you're getting the free month, then you just have to get a timecard before the end of the month.
The OP's "game+timecard" theory is incorrect. If you needed the game just for the install, you could just download the client. Then you would just need a timecard to activate. The point of having to buy the game, is because it comes with an activation code, which gives you 30 days free and creates your account if you didn't use a preorder code to make one already. Even then, your pre-order account won't work until you put in the activation code from the game you have to buy to play.
I bought game becouse my experience with the friendly game to buy, WoW i bought game and few weeks later when month was almost finish i bought a timecard far better policy of payment then funcom.
I have my reasons why i dont wanne give my bank info or dont have creditcard.
Game was for sale in shop i saw it and on box no info about must buy it with timecard or no play.
It just say internet needed and 1 month free i already knew you could play game with timecard but as i said before both major shops in holland have game, but NO TIMECARD.
So i bought game becouse i tought i could play it one month free and then buy timecard to play further on.
But no they force you, now they lost a customer good job funcom:).
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Well no wurry ive brought the game back:). Normally the shop i bought it dont take games back this case FREERECORD SHOP, but with knowlage of no timecard not shipped with it, they where friendly to take game back:). They did not know about gamecard , posible of payment, headquaters did not inform them about this. Nobody force me into practise like this, to buy a game and when i wanne play game i need to buy timecard. Funcom mistake i win they lose.
It's funny that the shop let you take it back considering the 30 day free activation code isn't under a seal, it's written openly on the back of the instruction booklet. So if you wanted, you could have put the code in to make an account, then returned the game after installing. Then you wouldn't have had to pay for the game or your first month.
I put activation code in i try all option on payment but none worked.
And logically ones dont work where bank info or credit needed, you dont have many option you can just click few options , payment with timecard need code BUT I DONT HAVE TIMECARD YET hehe shop dont sell them, so imposible to play game then, they just force you to buy game plus timecard.
But ive no problem anymore got my money back hehe.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Funcom takes Western union, Virtual check, a mailed check, Money order via postal services, paypoint, paysafecard and "many other local payment methods" according to their account page. That is more than I seen any one else do. But i agree that it's anoying, SOE does the same thing.
Who truely loses in this case Evasia.. is you. All over a simple concept that you need to follow a procedure for this type of game in just about ANY Mmorpg out there. This is an amazing game and that's not just blind faith. I love my experiences so far and havn't felt this great in a game since Everquest in 1999. When you stop being stubborn and go through the process like everyone else for this type of game, then you'll have the time of your life playing and guess what, you still get 30 days free.. If not, Crom laughs at your four winds, he laughs from his Mountain!
Well i had only 4 options and one them was gamecard, blizzard let you play anyway if you choose to implement on later date a gamecard , no other info needed from your bank or creditcard at that time, you bought game have 1 month free and if you wanne continuing you can give timecard info when game almost ended that first free month this is blizzards way:).
That is how it should be, not been force buying game with timecard.
If the shop would have said sir you can buy game but you need also timecard to play it and explain i prolly would have bought it anyway.
But in this case no info about this and shops also dunno about timecard and dont have it eather.
So who is making a mistake shops or funcom?
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Well no wurry ive brought the game back:). Normally the shop i bought it dont take games back this case FREERECORD SHOP, but with knowlage of no timecard not shipped with it, they where friendly to take game back:). They did not know about gamecard , posible of payment, headquaters did not inform them about this. Nobody force me into practise like this, to buy a game and when i wanne play game i need to buy timecard. Funcom mistake i win they lose.
It's funny that the shop let you take it back considering the 30 day free activation code isn't under a seal, it's written openly on the back of the instruction booklet. So if you wanted, you could have put the code in to make an account, then returned the game after installing. Then you wouldn't have had to pay for the game or your first month.
Well most here can insult me and say im under age or stupid or whatever, but even tho i dont like how funcom did this kind of deal i would never do that im to socially skilled enough for that and never do that, im not a crook.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Who truely loses in this case Evasia.. is you. All over a simple concept that you need to follow a procedure for this type of game in just about ANY Mmorpg out there. This is an amazing game and that's not just blind faith. I love my experiences so far and havn't felt this great in a game since Everquest in 1999. When you stop being stubborn and go through the process like everyone else for this type of game, then you'll have the time of your life playing and guess what, you still get 30 days free.. If not, Crom laughs at your four winds, he laughs from his Mountain!
Well thats my problem then if i lose, i have to live with that for rest of my life:P.
I realy hope you have great time with AoC i have nothing agains AoC as game.
I just did not like how they force me to buy timecard with game right at start, and shops thought also first month no card needed firt month free.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
You know, it's common knowledge for these type of games. You say you would have gotten it anyway if you'd known, well the back of the box states it, so get it. Also, whenever in doubt, 'Memory fades, but a good Google search never forgets..' Don't expect everything to be spelled out for you or you're going to feel indignant most your life. Sometimes a little research goes a long way, the facts are there from the company, that you didn't comphrehend what it means means you just have to make an effort to understand, not be outraged and throw a tantrum and leave for good. A bit foolish, no? Search your feelings, you know you wanted to play.. play.
You know, it's common knowledge for these type of games. You say you would have gotten it anyway if you'd known, well the back of the box states it, so get it. Also, whenever in doubt, 'Memory fades, but a good Google search never forgets..' Don't expect everything to be spelled out for you or you're going to feel indignant most your life. Sometimes a little research goes a long way, the facts are there from the company, that you didn't comphrehend what it means means you just have to make an effort to understand, not be outraged and throw a tantrum and leave for good. A bit foolish, no? Search your feelings, you know you wanted to play.. play.
Ok i explain slowly:P
As i stated before my experience with buying wow before launch and register, was you buy that game and fill in account info they ask payment you say timecard and do this on later date, and you can play for one month free by buying only gameat that moment dont have to have a timecard, you can follow?
Now with AoC box i knew you could play it with timecard and becouse my experience with timecard was from what ive learned with wow, i bought game also never tought i needed to buy timecard right away becouse both shops also did not have timecards yet.
So whos fault here?
I say funcom its very dumb to ship AT LAUNCH day game to shops but no timecards.
And not to mention im force to buy both at start other wise i cant play.
Nomatter how you wanne see this, i maybe cant play now but funcom always lose becouse its not customer friendly and very dumb not to inform shops about they they had no clue whatsoever.
Even tho most here are big fans of AoC and understandable you have to look at bigger picture here and see it objectively, business wise maybe not that smart ship only game without any info on timecards towards shops.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Biggest problem for me is their "we don't accept visa electron" policy. I entered my electron card details anyway and it didn't have a problem with it, so hey. Can forsee problems ahead though - just wondering why they don't accept a very popular and well used form of card - especially when most debit cards are made under electron. A paypal option should be introduced really to allow most cards to make payments, they'll suffer otherwise because alot of players won't have "german paypal" or w/e it is, or will want to send cash via post.
For you griefers out there heres a chance to exploit. Since what funcom did isnt entirely legal and wouldnt hold up in a court of law, go out to your local best buy walmart and buy the game, then return it on the ground that you cant play it because it wont let you. Now funcom will have to deal with the retailers. This is just pathetic they deserve to be shot. Shot like a criminal caught in the act, without any mercy.
I honestly have to wonder if half of you even read his post. Sure, it was hard to understand since it's obvious english is a second language for him. He's saying he can't play not because he doesn't want to dish out the moola for a time card, but because they're not being sold in shops anywhere near him. Honestly, I have no clue why people have to be so immature and rude because he doesn't want to play the game anymore after not being able to play. I know I'd take it back if I had to sit and stare at the box waiting for a shop to sell a gamecard so I could play.
Also, it sucks that a company would make you buy a gamecard just to play your free month, because if you don't like the game within the free month you've still given them the money to play (Assuming you spent the whole month trying the game out before making a decision, it'd be a whole month before you would take the card back and then they wouldn't take it back), unlike with a credit card where you can cancel the subscription before it ever starts.
I honestly have to wonder if half of you even read his post. Sure, it was hard to understand since it's obvious english is a second language for him. He's saying he can't play not because he doesn't want to dish out the moola for a time card, but because they're not being sold in shops anywhere near him. Honestly, I have no clue why people have to be so immature and rude because he doesn't want to play the game anymore after not being able to play. I know I'd take it back if I had to sit and stare at the box waiting for a shop to sell a gamecard so I could play. Also, it sucks that a company would make you buy a gamecard just to play your free month, because if you don't like the game within the free month you've still given them the money to play (Assuming you spent the whole month trying the game out before making a decision, it'd be a whole month before you would take the card back and then they wouldn't take it back), unlike with a credit card where you can cancel the subscription before it ever starts. Morale of the post: Stop being jerk offs.
No ones confusing anything, its simple, you buy the game you wont be able to play it unless you pay some more or sign up to pay some more. Thats wrong.
Yeah I said it, as alot of the responders to this thread have been thinking. Saying that WoW lets you play without putting in the info is wrong, as I played it from beta to well over 1 1/2 years and it asked for CC info and on friends accounts who used timecard it REQUIRED the timecard number.
This is standard policy and has been so in the industry for many years, as stated already it even says so on the back of the box. The OP also is scamming Funcom as the Code for the game is still active on his account he created, soon as you put it in and hit the next screen it is used up and no one else can ever use that Code again. If I knew who his account name was I would let Funcom know, because he is just lying to everyone here and is probably now playing the game without the cost of buying it and someone who comes into that store and buys that box he returned will pay the price. The store is a JOKE to let someone return ANY type of online game once it has been opened up. I have seen companies lose their distribution rights over instances like this which violate their contract agreements with the companies.
All I can say is just WOW, and people who agreed with the OP don't have a clue either.
I honestly have to wonder if half of you even read his post. Sure, it was hard to understand since it's obvious english is a second language for him. He's saying he can't play not because he doesn't want to dish out the moola for a time card, but because they're not being sold in shops anywhere near him. Honestly, I have no clue why people have to be so immature and rude because he doesn't want to play the game anymore after not being able to play. I know I'd take it back if I had to sit and stare at the box waiting for a shop to sell a gamecard so I could play. Also, it sucks that a company would make you buy a gamecard just to play your free month, because if you don't like the game within the free month you've still given them the money to play (Assuming you spent the whole month trying the game out before making a decision, it'd be a whole month before you would take the card back and then they wouldn't take it back), unlike with a credit card where you can cancel the subscription before it ever starts. Morale of the post: Stop being jerk offs.
No ones confusing anything, its simple, you buy the game you wont be able to play it unless you pay some more or sign up to pay some more. Thats wrong.
actually, that's completely false. there is the option to select "Pay By Cash"...selecting this option means you don't have to enter a damn thing....no CC or Debit card.
I honestly have to wonder if half of you even read his post. Sure, it was hard to understand since it's obvious english is a second language for him. He's saying he can't play not because he doesn't want to dish out the moola for a time card, but because they're not being sold in shops anywhere near him. Honestly, I have no clue why people have to be so immature and rude because he doesn't want to play the game anymore after not being able to play. I know I'd take it back if I had to sit and stare at the box waiting for a shop to sell a gamecard so I could play. Also, it sucks that a company would make you buy a gamecard just to play your free month, because if you don't like the game within the free month you've still given them the money to play (Assuming you spent the whole month trying the game out before making a decision, it'd be a whole month before you would take the card back and then they wouldn't take it back), unlike with a credit card where you can cancel the subscription before it ever starts. Morale of the post: Stop being jerk offs.
No ones confusing anything, its simple, you buy the game you wont be able to play it unless you pay some more or sign up to pay some more. Thats wrong.
His first post specifically stated that shops around him are not selling time cards at the moment, which means he can't play. How was I wrong?
Damn, that´s really weird Evasia, sorry to hear you won´t be able to play. But are you really sure you couldn´t use the "Pay by cash"-option? I have read about more than a few people that did this and it worked for them.
It´s truly surprising that you cannot buy Game Time Cards in the stores from where you buy the game I have seen more people complain about that.
AoC wont sell pre-paid cards, it was part of thier plan to keep it an "adult" game. Least that is what I have heard, been wrong before tho, nothing to see..move on.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
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Who doesn't have a debit or a credit card? Honestly. It's the 21st century.
People under the age of 18?
Well no wurry ive brought the game back:).
Normally the shop i bought it dont take games back this case FREERECORD SHOP, but with knowlage of no timecard not shipped with it, they where friendly to take game back:).
They did not know about gamecard , posible of payment, headquaters did not inform them about this.
Nobody force me into practise like this, to buy a game and when i wanne play game i need to buy timecard.
Funcom mistake i win they lose.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Horrible horrible company... Oh wait, you retard, they do give you a month free... The activation code is on the back of the booklet. You can put pay by cash instead of credit card when you register with your activation code, thus you don't have to pay because you're getting the free month, then you just have to get a timecard before the end of the month.
The OP's "game+timecard" theory is incorrect. If you needed the game just for the install, you could just download the client. Then you would just need a timecard to activate. The point of having to buy the game, is because it comes with an activation code, which gives you 30 days free and creates your account if you didn't use a preorder code to make one already. Even then, your pre-order account won't work until you put in the activation code from the game you have to buy to play.
I have bank lol and im over 28:P
I bought game becouse my experience with the friendly game to buy, WoW i bought game and few weeks later when month was almost finish i bought a timecard far better policy of payment then funcom.
I have my reasons why i dont wanne give my bank info or dont have creditcard.
Game was for sale in shop i saw it and on box no info about must buy it with timecard or no play.
It just say internet needed and 1 month free i already knew you could play game with timecard but as i said before both major shops in holland have game, but NO TIMECARD.
So i bought game becouse i tought i could play it one month free and then buy timecard to play further on.
But no they force you, now they lost a customer good job funcom:).
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
It's funny that the shop let you take it back considering the 30 day free activation code isn't under a seal, it's written openly on the back of the instruction booklet. So if you wanted, you could have put the code in to make an account, then returned the game after installing. Then you wouldn't have had to pay for the game or your first month.
I put activation code in i try all option on payment but none worked.
And logically ones dont work where bank info or credit needed, you dont have many option you can just click few options , payment with timecard need code BUT I DONT HAVE TIMECARD YET hehe shop dont sell them, so imposible to play game then, they just force you to buy game plus timecard.
But ive no problem anymore got my money back hehe.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
People under the age of 18?
Touche.
Seriously though, have your folks sign off on a checking account and use a debit card. If they refuse, burn their house down for being weird.
Funcom takes Western union, Virtual check, a mailed check, Money order via postal services, paypoint, paysafecard and "many other local payment methods" according to their account page. That is more than I seen any one else do. But i agree that it's anoying, SOE does the same thing.
Who truely loses in this case Evasia.. is you. All over a simple concept that you need to follow a procedure for this type of game in just about ANY Mmorpg out there. This is an amazing game and that's not just blind faith. I love my experiences so far and havn't felt this great in a game since Everquest in 1999. When you stop being stubborn and go through the process like everyone else for this type of game, then you'll have the time of your life playing and guess what, you still get 30 days free.. If not, Crom laughs at your four winds, he laughs from his Mountain!
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'Cry Havoc, and Let Loose the Dogs of WARRRRR!!!'
Well i had only 4 options and one them was gamecard, blizzard let you play anyway if you choose to implement on later date a gamecard , no other info needed from your bank or creditcard at that time, you bought game have 1 month free and if you wanne continuing you can give timecard info when game almost ended that first free month this is blizzards way:).
That is how it should be, not been force buying game with timecard.
If the shop would have said sir you can buy game but you need also timecard to play it and explain i prolly would have bought it anyway.
But in this case no info about this and shops also dunno about timecard and dont have it eather.
So who is making a mistake shops or funcom?
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
It's funny that the shop let you take it back considering the 30 day free activation code isn't under a seal, it's written openly on the back of the instruction booklet. So if you wanted, you could have put the code in to make an account, then returned the game after installing. Then you wouldn't have had to pay for the game or your first month.
Well most here can insult me and say im under age or stupid or whatever, but even tho i dont like how funcom did this kind of deal i would never do that im to socially skilled enough for that and never do that, im not a crook.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
I realy hope you have great time with AoC i have nothing agains AoC as game.
I just did not like how they force me to buy timecard with game right at start, and shops thought also first month no card needed firt month free.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
You know, it's common knowledge for these type of games. You say you would have gotten it anyway if you'd known, well the back of the box states it, so get it. Also, whenever in doubt, 'Memory fades, but a good Google search never forgets..' Don't expect everything to be spelled out for you or you're going to feel indignant most your life. Sometimes a little research goes a long way, the facts are there from the company, that you didn't comphrehend what it means means you just have to make an effort to understand, not be outraged and throw a tantrum and leave for good. A bit foolish, no? Search your feelings, you know you wanted to play.. play.
------------------------------
'Cry Havoc, and Let Loose the Dogs of WARRRRR!!!'
As i stated before my experience with buying wow before launch and register, was you buy that game and fill in account info they ask payment you say timecard and do this on later date, and you can play for one month free by buying only gameat that moment dont have to have a timecard, you can follow?
Now with AoC box i knew you could play it with timecard and becouse my experience with timecard was from what ive learned with wow, i bought game also never tought i needed to buy timecard right away becouse both shops also did not have timecards yet.
So whos fault here?
I say funcom its very dumb to ship AT LAUNCH day game to shops but no timecards.
And not to mention im force to buy both at start other wise i cant play.
Nomatter how you wanne see this, i maybe cant play now but funcom always lose becouse its not customer friendly and very dumb not to inform shops about they they had no clue whatsoever.
Even tho most here are big fans of AoC and understandable you have to look at bigger picture here and see it objectively, business wise maybe not that smart ship only game without any info on timecards towards shops.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
solution: when setting up game account, select "Pay By Cash".
Play your free 30 days.
At end of 30 days, pay with game card.
No CC or Debit card required.
Biggest problem for me is their "we don't accept visa electron" policy. I entered my electron card details anyway and it didn't have a problem with it, so hey. Can forsee problems ahead though - just wondering why they don't accept a very popular and well used form of card - especially when most debit cards are made under electron. A paypal option should be introduced really to allow most cards to make payments, they'll suffer otherwise because alot of players won't have "german paypal" or w/e it is, or will want to send cash via post.
For you griefers out there heres a chance to exploit. Since what funcom did isnt entirely legal and wouldnt hold up in a court of law, go out to your local best buy walmart and buy the game, then return it on the ground that you cant play it because it wont let you. Now funcom will have to deal with the retailers. This is just pathetic they deserve to be shot. Shot like a criminal caught in the act, without any mercy.
I honestly have to wonder if half of you even read his post. Sure, it was hard to understand since it's obvious english is a second language for him. He's saying he can't play not because he doesn't want to dish out the moola for a time card, but because they're not being sold in shops anywhere near him. Honestly, I have no clue why people have to be so immature and rude because he doesn't want to play the game anymore after not being able to play. I know I'd take it back if I had to sit and stare at the box waiting for a shop to sell a gamecard so I could play.
Also, it sucks that a company would make you buy a gamecard just to play your free month, because if you don't like the game within the free month you've still given them the money to play (Assuming you spent the whole month trying the game out before making a decision, it'd be a whole month before you would take the card back and then they wouldn't take it back), unlike with a credit card where you can cancel the subscription before it ever starts.
Morale of the post: Stop being jerk offs.
No ones confusing anything, its simple, you buy the game you wont be able to play it unless you pay some more or sign up to pay some more. Thats wrong.
What a bunch of idiots.......
Yeah I said it, as alot of the responders to this thread have been thinking. Saying that WoW lets you play without putting in the info is wrong, as I played it from beta to well over 1 1/2 years and it asked for CC info and on friends accounts who used timecard it REQUIRED the timecard number.
This is standard policy and has been so in the industry for many years, as stated already it even says so on the back of the box. The OP also is scamming Funcom as the Code for the game is still active on his account he created, soon as you put it in and hit the next screen it is used up and no one else can ever use that Code again. If I knew who his account name was I would let Funcom know, because he is just lying to everyone here and is probably now playing the game without the cost of buying it and someone who comes into that store and buys that box he returned will pay the price. The store is a JOKE to let someone return ANY type of online game once it has been opened up. I have seen companies lose their distribution rights over instances like this which violate their contract agreements with the companies.
All I can say is just WOW, and people who agreed with the OP don't have a clue either.
No ones confusing anything, its simple, you buy the game you wont be able to play it unless you pay some more or sign up to pay some more. Thats wrong.
actually, that's completely false. there is the option to select "Pay By Cash"...selecting this option means you don't have to enter a damn thing....no CC or Debit card.It's not that hard.
No ones confusing anything, its simple, you buy the game you wont be able to play it unless you pay some more or sign up to pay some more. Thats wrong.
His first post specifically stated that shops around him are not selling time cards at the moment, which means he can't play. How was I wrong?
Damn, that´s really weird Evasia, sorry to hear you won´t be able to play. But are you really sure you couldn´t use the "Pay by cash"-option? I have read about more than a few people that did this and it worked for them.
It´s truly surprising that you cannot buy Game Time Cards in the stores from where you buy the game I have seen more people complain about that.
AoC wont sell pre-paid cards, it was part of thier plan to keep it an "adult" game. Least that is what I have heard, been wrong before tho, nothing to see..move on.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.