What do you get from it? The pleasure of ganking someone that is still suffering rez sickness? What skill is in that?? You try to justify you existance by saying it's a PVP server...if they dont like it go to a PvE server. Aye...it is a PvP server but that doesnt justify ganking...actually I pitty people like gankers that have nothing better to do than to grief people. ..it's sad really O.o
Don't blame the gankers. Blame the system that allows ganking as easy as it is in Age of Conan.
I have never been a ganker or will i ever be a ganker and i don't agree with gankers, but just because i don't agree with them, does not mean they don't have the right to do it. It's their play style and who am i to tell them what to do and what not to do.
It is up to the designers of a game to decide if ganking is allowed or not, if it is easily accomplished or not. WoW for example allows you to avoid ganking to a certain extent due to the ghost form. AoC does not provide this, so gankers will have an easy time.
To be honest with you i would have expected more from AoC when it comes to PvP. The whole license screams PvP (in particular world PvP). Instead it appears that PvP was added almost as an after thought with some meager mini games and a watered down siege system (which is reportedly not in the game yet even though it was promised). Bugs on the PvP servers mean that group and guild members can kill each other, which thanks to splash damage makes group PvP a bit of a nightmare.
So all in all i'd say the design of the whole PvP experience in AoC is lacking and some people are using it to have some fun. Why blame them?
No sympathy here; repeated spawn campers are losers. Sure its no big deal to f*k someone around a few times; but it sounds like you were camping his spawn for a long time. So it sounds like you got what you deserved.
If you actually read it you will see they are spawncamping them because he was spawn camping on of theirs first.
In addition, it doesnt matter. Funcom needs to change their ruleset for PvP because right now its absolutely horrible.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I've had quite a few of my friends send petitions complaining about being spawn camped and the GM's ALWAYS reply with a generic response that they are not doing anything that is against the rules and its an issue that a solution for is being looked into.
Theres currently a 500 petition queue on Wildsoul, do you guys really think a GM would take time out to discuss and "lol" with players reporting spawn camping when its probably reported hundreds of times each day and there are plenty more important petitions to deal with?
Just don't let it get to you. I've been spawn camped but after the 2nd or 3rd death u can just sprint and typically get away or atleast kite them from the spawn, die, then run another direction from spawn and be fine. Avoid that area for 30 min and gain some lvls, head back and that jackass will probably still be the same lvl and lack of skill that you can take them on your own terms. I'm not saying its right, but you gatta pick your fights and not LET yourself be repeatedly camped. If you can't adapt then PVE servers really might be the best place til the issue is taken care of more effectively.
Fake, completely fake. I've had quite a few of my friends send petitions complaining about being spawn camped and the GM's ALWAYS reply with a generic response that they are not doing anything that is against the rules and its an issue that a solution for is being looked into. Theres currently a 500 petition queue on Wildsoul, do you guys really think a GM would take time out to discuss and "lol" with players reporting spawn camping when its probably reported hundreds of times each day and there are plenty more important petitions to deal with?
its not fake. It was confirmed on the funcom server. Nice try tho!
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
What do you get from it? The pleasure of ganking someone that is still suffering rez sickness? What skill is in that?? You try to justify you existance by saying it's a PVP server...if they dont like it go to a PvE server. Aye...it is a PvP server but that doesnt justify ganking...actually I pitty people like gankers that have nothing better to do than to grief people. ..it's sad really O.o I used to admin a BF1942/DC/FH server. We had full FFA with Friendly fire turned off (you could kill your own mates). We used to have people like this come onto the and spawn camp, team kill and just grief in general. They would recieve 1 warning, if they continued they were banned. NO, In case you're wondering...we always had a full server and our clan competed in the Forgoten Hope challenges. There is a difference between the realism of FFA PvP and someone that just ganks because they can.
DC was the best game ever!
With 1942/DC there are different servers with different rules, much like AoC where you choose what server you want, PvP or PvE. Complaining you're getting ganked on a PvP server is like complaining you're getting spawn killed on a DC server where their rules clearly state that spawn killing is allowed.
Unless there are rules that clearly state that spawn camping isn't allowed in AoC, then that GM should have no right banning (or threatening to ban) people. Yes, it's pathetic to gank a lowbie over and over, but the player has the choice of what server they choose. It's like complaining that your Cheesecake has cheese in it.
That GM acted like a kid with power (like a CSS admin ), how does one "take the game too far"? That makes no sense! Regardless of what you think of camping, this GM doesn't deserve the job he's got as it sounds like he hasn't got a clue about the rules... and not to mention he failed to tell the other players about any kind of rules, again, "taking the game too far" doesn't explain anything.
I read that over about 3 times to make sure on everything and you sir handled that conversation with the GM very poorly. If I was that GM, I would have done a bit more than what he did. Your obviously a ganking noob that is pissed he didnt get away with something, so you feel you need to tell the world why you have tears in your eyes.
Its a shame that people QQ to GM's like this. If you dont like the PvP on these types of servers, then leave and go to a PvE. Nough said. There are ways to get around spawn killing, Ive been in that situation many times. Plus is a big shame that GM's are now threatening to ban people that are spawn killing, they are essentially - ignoring their own rulesets for the game.
When you enter a PvP server - you agree to get ganked and to possibly get spawn camped. Deal with it. Eventually, at one point, youre going to be the one spawn killing. Thats the trade off.
So this is AoC's idea of PVP? Threats of bans from a GM (with bad grammar) for killing players?
hmm...
Is this for real???
Its NEVER players that ruin PvP in ANY game, its poor game mechanics, poor punishment systems. This is whats happening in AoC at the moment. AoC PvP were put in as a "cool" feature, not the main thing. Very poor alignement system in AoC, poor punishment being an asshole.
Hillarious that a GM have to come in and try fixing what Funcom should have fixed in the first place.
I am sorry, but if someone spawn camps you, there nothing but assholes. If this is what people call PvP in a MMO, then head over to my favorite FPS CD4 and I will show you what true spawn camping is all about. Spawn campers are assholes.. period.. You want to spawn camp? Get ready for the consequence.
Although i agree with you it s in the game. If you can do it people will, it s up to Funcom to change this. We ll see if they do.
It needs to be up to the PLAYERS to DEAL JUDGEMENT. If the players can't do and Funcom has to, then the game is seriously flawed. They wanted PvP? They got it. The good and bad side.
So true, maybe they ll add a rule where if you gank people repeatedly they ll turn you into a goat? Oo
As i see it this should have been sorted out BEFORE game went live. Thers alot of if:s, what of:s, maybe they will and on and on. Alignement system if basic in any PvP game. But then again AoC isnt a true PvP game, never was.
I would ban you just for being so arogant. That GM had a lot of patience with you... 2 players like you less in the game, the better.
Problem is, the players did nothing wrong. Age of Conan have a bad design. Poor alignement system. The asshats dont get punished for being asshats. Its Funcoms fault from start, not the players nor the poor frustrated GM.
Everyone who is whining about spawncamping and how wrong the campers actions are is a pansy. What is the big deal about people spawn camping someone? Oh it is so rude and mean and blah blah blah. Who cares? If you're playing on a PvP server, expect to get ganked and killed often. The easiest way to deal with it is either kill them or stop letting them kill you whether that means going to a different area or just stepping away from your pc for a while. I know, god forbid you step away from the game. If you can't handle getting killed by other people then A PVP SERVER IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR YOU.
Everyone who is whining about spawncamping and how wrong the campers actions are is a pansy. What is the big deal about people spawn camping someone? Oh it is so rude and mean and blah blah blah. Who cares? If you're playing on a PvP server, expect to get ganked and killed often. The easiest way to deal with it is either kill them or stop letting them kill you whether that means going to a different area or just stepping away from your pc for a while. I know, god forbid you step away from the game. If you can't handle getting killed by other people then A PVP SERVER IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR YOU.
ROFL. So you is calling killing defenseless players PvP?? Welcome to Darkfall when it releases and please give me your ingame name so i can teach you something about PvP, lamer.
Everyone who is whining about spawncamping and how wrong the campers actions are is a pansy. What is the big deal about people spawn camping someone? Oh it is so rude and mean and blah blah blah. Who cares? If you're playing on a PvP server, expect to get ganked and killed often. The easiest way to deal with it is either kill them or stop letting them kill you whether that means going to a different area or just stepping away from your pc for a while. I know, god forbid you step away from the game. If you can't handle getting killed by other people then A PVP SERVER IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR YOU.
ROFL. So you is calling killing defenseless players PvP?? Welcome to Darkfall when it releases and please give me your ingame name so i teach you something about PvP, lamer.
We may not be alive to see Darkfall release, just on the aside
I remember all the players that got banned in AO for "not beeing nice" as funcom put it. Ended up deleting a whole guild with millions of credits.
And I still haven't seen another games forum which is so heavily "moderated", or maybe I should say censored.
I rarely ever post anything on any forum, through the years i had like a couple posts on the trade forums in AO and that's it. But it still really stunk to see most of the good critisism against fc just got deleted, and as they do now, if you talk about it you get that nice "no questioning me, the almighty god!" attitude/post.
Oh well, guess there will be no pvp servers afterall then. Just more banning of "not nice" people I would presume.
Funfun!
Would also like to point out that I don't camp people at all, have 23 kills to my name at lvl 41 atm, and not a single one of them was white or even 2 times (atleast not in row).
I remember watching a development video that was a major letdown because all they did was prattle on and on about PvP and how awesomesauce it was going to be. And this is what they come up with? GMs with second grade level grammar skills threatening bans for spawn camping on a PvP server.
Hilarious.
(And more than a bit gratifying for beta players who knew better than to ride this ship out of port while still full of gaping holes)
So this is AoC's idea of PVP? Threats of bans from a GM (with bad grammar) for killing players?
hmm...
Seems like the Report may have been griefing, If people are spawn camping another player for 30 mins to an hour... thats kinda lame.
True yes it's a PvP server... Anf that rule set is somewhat unfair and abit tiresome after a while, especialy if your running solo and/or in a small guild.
I Think the GM was just trying to get the guys to back off a bit, as we do not see all the details in those screenies.
Either way, Game CO's need to make a design element to help reduce these problems, Yeah it's easy to say tuff it's a PvP server, but then again I hardly think it's fair if lets say 3-5 lvl 30's are ganking one lvl 20ish player.
easy solution is to add immunitiy for a minute or 2 for fresh zoning. Have a lvl CAP for PVP, can only attack others that are in a +/- 3 range of your charachter. Or even a different PvP server rule set server with those implamented.
Either Way if a GM is asking players to back off on a PvP server... they musta been ganken that dude for a long time
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This is what happens when you merge the worse PvP ruleset together with an MMO that allows partial nudity.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Don't blame the gankers. Blame the system that allows ganking as easy as it is in Age of Conan.
I have never been a ganker or will i ever be a ganker and i don't agree with gankers, but just because i don't agree with them, does not mean they don't have the right to do it. It's their play style and who am i to tell them what to do and what not to do.
It is up to the designers of a game to decide if ganking is allowed or not, if it is easily accomplished or not. WoW for example allows you to avoid ganking to a certain extent due to the ghost form. AoC does not provide this, so gankers will have an easy time.
To be honest with you i would have expected more from AoC when it comes to PvP. The whole license screams PvP (in particular world PvP). Instead it appears that PvP was added almost as an after thought with some meager mini games and a watered down siege system (which is reportedly not in the game yet even though it was promised). Bugs on the PvP servers mean that group and guild members can kill each other, which thanks to splash damage makes group PvP a bit of a nightmare.
So all in all i'd say the design of the whole PvP experience in AoC is lacking and some people are using it to have some fun. Why blame them?
In addition, it doesnt matter. Funcom needs to change their ruleset for PvP because right now its absolutely horrible.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
lol leave spawn campers alone they go beatup in school now it's payback time
Fake, completely fake.
I've had quite a few of my friends send petitions complaining about being spawn camped and the GM's ALWAYS reply with a generic response that they are not doing anything that is against the rules and its an issue that a solution for is being looked into.
Theres currently a 500 petition queue on Wildsoul, do you guys really think a GM would take time out to discuss and "lol" with players reporting spawn camping when its probably reported hundreds of times each day and there are plenty more important petitions to deal with?
Thank you
Have a good day
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LOL.
Just don't let it get to you. I've been spawn camped but after the 2nd or 3rd death u can just sprint and typically get away or atleast kite them from the spawn, die, then run another direction from spawn and be fine. Avoid that area for 30 min and gain some lvls, head back and that jackass will probably still be the same lvl and lack of skill that you can take them on your own terms. I'm not saying its right, but you gatta pick your fights and not LET yourself be repeatedly camped. If you can't adapt then PVE servers really might be the best place til the issue is taken care of more effectively.
its not fake. It was confirmed on the funcom server. Nice try tho!
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
The GM's son was prob. playing, if not rest assured that the GM got kicked.
DC was the best game ever!
With 1942/DC there are different servers with different rules, much like AoC where you choose what server you want, PvP or PvE. Complaining you're getting ganked on a PvP server is like complaining you're getting spawn killed on a DC server where their rules clearly state that spawn killing is allowed.
Unless there are rules that clearly state that spawn camping isn't allowed in AoC, then that GM should have no right banning (or threatening to ban) people. Yes, it's pathetic to gank a lowbie over and over, but the player has the choice of what server they choose. It's like complaining that your Cheesecake has cheese in it.
That GM acted like a kid with power (like a CSS admin
), how does one "take the game too far"? That makes no sense! Regardless of what you think of camping, this GM doesn't deserve the job he's got as it sounds like he hasn't got a clue about the rules... and not to mention he failed to tell the other players about any kind of rules, again, "taking the game too far" doesn't explain anything.
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All i see is alot of QQ
It is a pvp server if im not mistaken. Ive been ganked inall the pvp games i have ever played, man up and do something asbout it
I read that over about 3 times to make sure on everything and you sir handled that conversation with the GM very poorly. If I was that GM, I would have done a bit more than what he did. Your obviously a ganking noob that is pissed he didnt get away with something, so you feel you need to tell the world why you have tears in your eyes.
Its a shame that people QQ to GM's like this. If you dont like the PvP on these types of servers, then leave and go to a PvE. Nough said. There are ways to get around spawn killing, Ive been in that situation many times. Plus is a big shame that GM's are now threatening to ban people that are spawn killing, they are essentially - ignoring their own rulesets for the game.
When you enter a PvP server - you agree to get ganked and to possibly get spawn camped. Deal with it. Eventually, at one point, youre going to be the one spawn killing. Thats the trade off.
Is this for real???
Its NEVER players that ruin PvP in ANY game, its poor game mechanics, poor punishment systems. This is whats happening in AoC at the moment. AoC PvP were put in as a "cool" feature, not the main thing. Very poor alignement system in AoC, poor punishment being an asshole.
Hillarious that a GM have to come in and try fixing what Funcom should have fixed in the first place.
Although i agree with you it s in the game. If you can do it people will, it s up to Funcom to change this. We ll see if they do.
It needs to be up to the PLAYERS to DEAL JUDGEMENT. If the players can't do and Funcom has to, then the game is seriously flawed. They wanted PvP? They got it. The good and bad side.
So true, maybe they ll add a rule where if you gank people repeatedly they ll turn you into a goat? Oo
As i see it this should have been sorted out BEFORE game went live. Thers alot of if:s, what of:s, maybe they will and on and on. Alignement system if basic in any PvP game. But then again AoC isnt a true PvP game, never was.
Problem is, the players did nothing wrong. Age of Conan have a bad design. Poor alignement system. The asshats dont get punished for being asshats. Its Funcoms fault from start, not the players nor the poor frustrated GM.
Everyone who is whining about spawncamping and how wrong the campers actions are is a pansy. What is the big deal about people spawn camping someone? Oh it is so rude and mean and blah blah blah. Who cares? If you're playing on a PvP server, expect to get ganked and killed often. The easiest way to deal with it is either kill them or stop letting them kill you whether that means going to a different area or just stepping away from your pc for a while. I know, god forbid you step away from the game. If you can't handle getting killed by other people then A PVP SERVER IS OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR YOU.
ROFL. So you is calling killing defenseless players PvP?? Welcome to Darkfall when it releases and please give me your ingame name so i can teach you something about PvP, lamer.
ROFL. So you is calling killing defenseless players PvP?? Welcome to Darkfall when it releases and please give me your ingame name so i teach you something about PvP, lamer.
We may not be alive to see Darkfall release, just on the aside
Was waiting for something like this..
I remember all the players that got banned in AO for "not beeing nice" as funcom put it. Ended up deleting a whole guild with millions of credits.
And I still haven't seen another games forum which is so heavily "moderated", or maybe I should say censored.
I rarely ever post anything on any forum, through the years i had like a couple posts on the trade forums in AO and that's it. But it still really stunk to see most of the good critisism against fc just got deleted, and as they do now, if you talk about it you get that nice "no questioning me, the almighty god!" attitude/post.
Oh well, guess there will be no pvp servers afterall then. Just more banning of "not nice" people I would presume.
Funfun!
Would also like to point out that I don't camp people at all, have 23 kills to my name at lvl 41 atm, and not a single one of them was white or even 2 times (atleast not in row).
it's releasing this year.
If AOC PvP consist of doing nothing, but spawn and zoneline camping, then yes it is a big joke. That has nothing to do with a GM waving a banstick.
This is absolutely hilarious.
I remember watching a development video that was a major letdown because all they did was prattle on and on about PvP and how awesomesauce it was going to be. And this is what they come up with? GMs with second grade level grammar skills threatening bans for spawn camping on a PvP server.
Hilarious.
(And more than a bit gratifying for beta players who knew better than to ride this ship out of port while still full of gaping holes)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
that made me laugh sooooo hard!
"please dont kill the other guys too many times..."
hahahahhahaha
True yes it's a PvP server... Anf that rule set is somewhat unfair and abit tiresome after a while, especialy if your running solo and/or in a small guild.
I Think the GM was just trying to get the guys to back off a bit, as we do not see all the details in those screenies.
Either way, Game CO's need to make a design element to help reduce these problems, Yeah it's easy to say tuff it's a PvP server, but then again I hardly think it's fair if lets say 3-5 lvl 30's are ganking one lvl 20ish player.
easy solution is to add immunitiy for a minute or 2 for fresh zoning. Have a lvl CAP for PVP, can only attack others that are in a +/- 3 range of your charachter. Or even a different PvP server rule set server with those implamented.
Either Way if a GM is asking players to back off on a PvP server... they musta been ganken that dude for a long time