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I'm so sick of hearing the negative backlash of this game from the people who are "trolling" the game. Why am I getting sick? Because every single complaint (except for bugs which comes with the territory) has little to no merit since the chances of the greatest MMO to grace the PC (WoW) has those same exact issues.
Let's look at an example:
Many people complain about the quests going from point A to point B and killing X. What MMO does NOT do that??? ALL OF THEM DO!! What do you expect? A SP experience in an MMO designed to last for years?? Wake up! You can't fault AoC for doing what is commonly accepted in the MMO community for questing.
Another example, talking about how the voice-acting (which was superb on the noob island) goes away and you only have expressions and have to read the text. Again, what MMO has voice throughout the ENTIRE game?? NOT happening!! Sound is expensive and therefore people should be thankful that they at least got 20 levels of it!
Downplaying the combat. This is simply absurd. The combat in AoC is LEAGUES ahead of any other MMO. Show me another MMO that has at least over 5 different attack animations for the same class same weapon!! Good Luck! Would you rather hit the auto-attack and watch the one-two swing animations you get from every OTHER MMO out there?? LOL!
What saddens me is that people will hop back onto whatever MMO they were playing and continue to tolerate the same things they were complaining about AoC about!! Very hypocritical!
Go back to your other weak MMOs and leave the AoC community alone. We will be very happy with people who like the game. Even if it's just 50k subscribers!!
-M
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Well, I don't really care about trolling it's nothing new, I do find it amusing people complain about the voice acting gone after 20 thing..
The game is already THIRTY-TWO GB.
Funcom blocked the AoC forums from the public. Post there.
Exactly.
EXACTLY!
Hey OP, you hate us troller so bad, why are posting here on MMORPG.com instead of the official forums? Why bother posting here. If I hated trolls as bad as you do, OP, I damn well wouldn't go where they are free to speak their mind about the game. I'd go where Funcom bans people, like maybe the official forums. This leads me to believe you are trolling the trolls or you have issues with the game as much as the trolls do and are just afraid to admit what the trolls are not afraid to admit.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
So? Sony did this as well shortly after SWG went live. Why shouldn't they? That way they can pay attention to REAL issues that REAL PAYING customers are having. Not reading all the pointless troll posts of ppl who hate the game yet they don't even play it but have so much bad to say about it.
Ah, there are doom-n-gloomers on every forum for every game.
They are like the insects beneath your feet. Irritating but ignorable.
I am having fun in AoC. Had fun in WoW and EQII and SWG and VG and EVE and so on. But, I think this game is better than those. But, that's me.
To each their own.
(say that 5 times fast! lol)
Look, lemmings.
Best game ever?
Ignore the trolls tbh,if you noticed it's probably the same 3 kids making different accounts to bash AoC (look at the post count).They are those kids who get bullied at school soo they dropped out and try to act all high and mighty on teh interwebz!
And I just love to laugh at all the idiots saying AoC has auto attack but with more buttons ... get a clue again,auto attack = char automaticly attacks the target with it's default attack without your intervention.
Best game ever?
Maybe not best ever but it was great for its time 15 years ago..... *sigh* how the time goes by....
(say that 5 times fast! lol)
LOL, are you kidding me? 5x? I almost lost myself the first time.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Actually, I am tired of the mindless, viral-posting, fanboize. Folks that seem to have no concept of what makes a good MMORPG vs. a pile of refuse.
They are no better than the mindless, hate-posting, trollboize.
They are the flip-sides of the same coin.
While it might be more tedious, it actually feels like you're making an impact when you slice through someone's stance.
I think it adds a bit of basic flavor to melee, which in MMOs is almost always completely automated.
I agree and disagree, but not against you, with you. I agree that after awhile I get tired of always having to si there and hit 6 different buttons in every fight, although it should be available. Developers could also have an auto attack that randomly choses the moves for you. At anytime you could go back when you're ready to take control again with a click of a mouse. But then, you could always use a bot to fight for you.
In the end though, I am more with Jackdupp. Though it can be a hassle (when tired or sick, etc...), it does feels more real. It gives you a better sense of the danger and allows you to engage enemies more on your own terms. If you're like me, it plays a huge part in roleplaying and immersion.
A tiny mind is a tidy mind...
Trusting anyone about an opinion based subject that can't come without bias on a forum is a pretty dumb idea to begin with. You've got people who hold their own opinion as fact, and declare people who feel differently are somehow factually wrong, and you have the people that jump on one side or the other of a no-win argument between two groups of people that barely knew that they were talking about to begin with.
If you want to state your opinion on the game, positive or negative, you're going to have to learn to be content with the fact that the most you can speak on is your perspective. The people that can't do the are the trolls fighting endlessly with people who jump on the other side just to needlessly argue back about something that can't even get anywhere through debate. Put simply, don't feed the trolls, and don't fall in line with anyone's opinion just because it rings true with your own.
EXACTLY!
Hey OP, you hate us troller so bad, why are posting here on MMORPG.com instead of the official forums? Why bother posting here. If I hated trolls as bad as you do, OP, I damn well wouldn't go where they are free to speak their mind about the game. I'd go where Funcom bans people, like maybe the official forums. This leads me to believe you are trolling the trolls or you have issues with the game as much as the trolls do and are just afraid to admit what the trolls are not afraid to admit.
Please dude.. I've tried all the MMOs that people are either excited about or hate. Most of them are the same. I chose AoC for a specific reason and I got what I wanted. Sorry you didn't get what you wanted.. but feel free to go back to the other MMOs that don't give you what you want either..
Blacksword
If reading posts that talks negatively about the you are currently playing upsets you, I would suggest not reading them
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I have complaints about the game and are not the ones you mention.....I'm no troll.
There is a lot to like - and some real quirky things about it that make it fun to play given you have the right approach to it.
It's not an MMO in my opinion. To compare it to game out there today, it's more Guild Wars than anything. From a single player's perspective the game is pretty darn impressive. From a group play it's possibly the worst attempt at an MMO like experience I've seen.
The amount of things you can't do - look at full mana/health/stamina bars of your group mates, sort friends list separate from guild list, inspect other players, use auction houses or banks, invite group mates and expect them to find you (based on the stupid instancing systems that doesn't auto group group members), or how about see where your group mates are on the map...nope, not in AOC.
I mean Tabula Rasa uses a similar system for controlling population in cetain areas but even that half baked game allows groups to stay together when spawning to a new area.
AOC screams at decible levels unheard before -- I WAS MADE FOR CONSOLES!!! And thats not all bad, like I said there is a lot to like about the game.
But the small maps, lack of a seamless world instanced hell and piss poor group play make this a dud in my book. As a combatant the game is super fun. My favorite thing about MMOs is the exploration, and AOC is not designed for that.
So? Sony did this as well shortly after SWG went live. Why shouldn't they? That way they can pay attention to REAL issues that REAL PAYING customers are having. Not reading all the pointless troll posts of ppl who hate the game yet they don't even play it but have so much bad to say about it.
yeah and SWG got a LOT of shit for it too. Its bad practice blocking forums from non paying future customers
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Okay... so I haven't posted on here in about a week because these constant arguments are driving me crazy.
I understand that some people will not like AOC. It is only natural that a game appeal to some people and not to others. What I don't understand is why so many people apparently feel compelled to come to these forums only to bash the game...
You don't like AOC... we get the friggin' picture. Why don't you go back to whatever game you are currently playing and continue to do the same exact things you have been doing for however long you've been playing. What point is there in your continued rantings when you know that not everyone shares your opinions? Do us all a great favor and leave already!
I think you are off base. Over 80% of the gameplay in MMOs come from combat. If you want to be lazy and just watch the stats tally up your kill, by all means, go back to the auto-attack. I like more involved combat because it's something that will take the most time in an MMO. Yes, you do have to manually swing your blade, yes, you can block and it actually be effective, yes, you can watch fatalities to get that extra boost of realism, and yes, there are way more animations to see than the conventional MMO. I'm glad that I can back up or go forward and get an advantage. It takes more than just rolling a random number generator to get a kill in. Perhaps that's why I feel like a bad-ass even fighting mobs that are several levels above me. You won't even THINK about doing that in WoW or any other MMO for that matter.
"What point is there in your continued rantings when you know that not everyone shares your opinions? "
Hmm. Not sure who you are referring to, hope its not me. Free speech man, we all have a right to that - and you're not forced to listen either.
but to your question - what is our point? Well mine is simply not to bash the game, as I said there is a lot I like about it. And there is even more I don't like.
So my purpose in pointing out what I don't like is in the hopes they (the developers) change some of this...and with proper and justly professional communication hopefully swoon some others my way and gain a concensus that there are things that need changing.
Examing my post above, if AOC had better group play the game would be a far better experience. I've offered some things I think the game should do that it doesn't, like allow groups to stay together when they move to a new instanced area. I know it's a NOVEL concept that has only been in games for 10 years, but here's hoping the good folks at AOC can get a clue and join the fun....
do you not think AOC should allow groups to see each others health/stamina/mana bars? should I not be able to see my group mates on the map? and I certainly should not be able to tell what instance I am in so I can tell my buddy who just logged on which one to join (shift F9 is not a feature)....??? do you not think these are GAPING flaws in an MMO that are inexcusable?