This game is over simplified and made for Xbox360. Auto-targeting, AOE only heal spells, simple boss encounters, no durability, ZONES because xbox can only handle so much, quests tell you exactly where to go, etc. I can keep listing and listing but you guys will never see it. It's really not fun beta testing an xbox360 game. Plus can't you see why there's lack of content? They're going to release chunks of the game for xbox live points, and we'll probably have to buy content booster packs like EQ2 or whatever. Get over it people. Make your choice now before you get too deep.
Auto targeting? hmm mine system seems to work the same as most mmo's tab or f8 to cycle targets only this game is less linear in the fact that you dont even need to target, like real life lol...example, on my destiny quest i was fighting a pirate and a guard walked by and i hit him with a sweep of my sword and he killed me .
And yes i agree that the quests are spoon fed much like wow etc but as for simple boss encounters,, try going after them before you outlevel them. i always fight above my weight and it makes things much more difficult and interesting.
But lol whats this about needing to buy booster packs etc or use xbox points! i play on a pc mate so that wont count for me and if i have to buy expansions..then great! i love mmos that expand, hell i brought 14 for Everquest. bring em on.
In fairness this game excels till about Level 50 when suddenly all the quest dry up and its a grindfest. And lets be honest here they are still whackamole 0/10 quests nothing really visionary. This game was marketed for the casual player and unless casual means happy to spend 2 hours a day for 2 months grinding some Cannibal Cave then I think Funcom are very much mistaken.
Ehhh. Another stupid soul.
You have enough quests in Eiglophian mountains for leveling after 50.
And where is that Cannibal cave? Yes you have there four quests and nothing more. You have few better spots for grinding if you want and you don't know anything other to do.
I just hit 41 and am having a blast. I've grouped plenty in my trek so far, and done a handful of the dungeons, all of which were fricking awesome. AoC has outdoor and indoor dungeons to avoid that damned repetative feel of, o look, another cave. They also have put some of the group content out in the middle of the zones, which I enjoyed as well. I don't see the problem with quest grinding. Would you rather not have quests at all? Also, PvP will have siege battles and minigames, not just ganking, perhaps you'd be happier on a PvE server. Also, PvE has (will have) not sure, around 10 end game dungeons with tiered gear.
I don't see what's missing. And for playing with friends, you can change instances to your friends, and communicate accross instances, you just can't see everyone. I would HATE this game without the instances, I already spend enough time spawn camping.
You don't see what's missing because you've probably only played WoW. You're right, nothing is missing in the sense that it feeds you the same boring bullshit WoW does.
I'd rather have quests that were not forced upon me to level. ATM in WoW and AoC the quickest way to level is through doing the quests, so I'm basically forced to do them if I want to be the best.
Secondly, I want quests that aren't so lame and redundant as the ones that we have seen WoW spin off and is now becoming a trend as you see that AoC has the same type and most MMOs coming out will likely copy.
I want a quest that has meaning, and takes actual effort and is hard and challenging. If you had played any of the real MMOs that first came out you'd know what I was talking about.
I LOVE PVP!!! I, however, hate PvP that is instanced. Mini-games, instanced Siege PvP...FUCKING LAME!
PvP is supposed to happen in the game world, not in a damn instance like some damn ride that you wait in line until it's your turn to take part in.
Actually I started MMOs with EQ, played it heavily, I've also played VG for a bit, not enough players around for me. Played LoTRO, had some issue that froze me up, tech support and I couldn't find a solution, but I loved the game when I could play. I also played SWG when it first came out, but didn't care for it. I've also played AC, UO, Tabula Rasa, CoH/CoV, DDO, basically any commercial MMO, I've tried it.
I don't mind doing quests to level and AoC does put more effort into their quests than most games I've seen. A lot of the quests don't take very long at all and give good rewards. There have also been some interesting quests, such as in Tartantia Noble district you are sent to investigate a murder, after all 3 suspects turn out to be not guilty, the quest log simply tells you to "find a pattern in insanity". So I go running around near the crime scene for a while and realize one of the walls is breakable, I break the wall and find a pile of bodies and a deranged killer. I thought this was a nice twist on things.
As far as hard and challenging, the quests are getting harder and I'm finding things a lot easier and more enjoyable to do as a group. I haven't run into anything truely epic yet, but one of the group quests in Conall's valley took my party and I around 10 times to clear. I don't expect anything truely epic until later in game. If you like world PvP, they have PvP servers...
Basically you haven't shown anything wrong with the game, just that it doesn't fit your play style, which is fine, go play something else.
I just hit 41 and am having a blast. I've grouped plenty in my trek so far, and done a handful of the dungeons, all of which were fricking awesome. AoC has outdoor and indoor dungeons to avoid that damned repetative feel of, o look, another cave. They also have put some of the group content out in the middle of the zones, which I enjoyed as well. I don't see the problem with quest grinding. Would you rather not have quests at all? Also, PvP will have siege battles and minigames, not just ganking, perhaps you'd be happier on a PvE server. Also, PvE has (will have) not sure, around 10 end game dungeons with tiered gear.
I don't see what's missing. And for playing with friends, you can change instances to your friends, and communicate accross instances, you just can't see everyone. I would HATE this game without the instances, I already spend enough time spawn camping.
This post is so funny )
It WILL have this and it will have that ...
You know Alfa and Beta is over !
"I don't see what's missing" part to conclude such a post is just hilariuos.
In my last 4 sessions of Conan (2 hours playing time, because I get a rash after that...) I have had the chance to do just ONE PvP minigame. In all other cases a waiting time of more than 1.5 hours resulted in 0 games°
And you know what? My normal FPS in solo was 40, in the city/zones it was 25 to 30 and when battling it out with 6 or 7 players at once I had 2 to 3(!!!!) FPS in a PRELOADED minigame !.
This game surprises me more each day.
The only thing I said about "will have" was the end game instances, and that's only because I don't know and I don't want to post falsehoods.
Did you ever think people are trying to level instead of doing PvP minigames?
For your FPS, I don't know what to tell you.
Like I told the last guy. If you can't show something actually wrong with the game other than you don't like it, go play something else.
the game is full of bugs, but apart, AOC is awesome.
you dont like it?? well...
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
You saying the game is not awesome is just your opinion but many thousands who are playing the game beg to differ.
In PvP games you have some sort of PvP system or PvP objectives besides ganking.Well I agree here and that is why I never play on a pvp server but there are pvp mini-games you can participate in to gain pvp points, experience to get pvp gear.If you don't like ganking then people can play on a pve server. You also can build guild cities which is actually kinda cool. Tell me, what is so good about this game? No auto attacking ( you actually have to perform the combos in order to make it work unlike previous mmo games where you hit a button and it does everything for you), graphics are really nice, group play is really fun, Destiny quests (you actually get good items as a reward unlike other mmo games), we don't have cartoony characters in AOC that jump around and spam nonsense all day, dungeon quests are challenging and give good rewards, this is not a gear based game, yes the gear had some nice stats on hit but its more about learning to use your skills properly. People who praise AoC on these boards have low level chars. The game is only a week old so many will have low-mid level characters. Those who exploited/cheated the game were shown the door. Those who spend 24/7 on the pc are an exception which I can't even phathom how that is even possible but unortunately it happens. I'm not a fanboi of Funcom or AOC because this is my first experience playing a Funcom made game. Though I can tell you that Funcom took what was out there and made it 100x better than what has been given to people prior to AOC. The game does have some flaws but really, not even a week old so people complaining about what doesn't work properly at the moment is pointless.
pvp minigames are fun from time to time, but thats not what i understand as meaningfull pvp. meaningfull pvp is a pvp where all your actions have consequences, not just a shooter like minigame integrated into a mmo. a sytem like in eve where you get negative standings with the lawkeepers when you kill other player without reason. that would open up options to live as a outlaw (with troubles getting into cities) or bountyhunter, add some meaningfull death penalties and some looting of players you killed then you get a meaningfull pvp system but i guess then most of those selfcalled pvpers won't play on these servers.
no autoattack: k you won't automatically hit in between the combos but other than that most of the combat is still using the combos (for which you now need to click 4-5 buttons in endgame). the only real advantage of the combat system is the different hit directions and directional blocking, thats the point that i like about the system the problem is that combos like they are in game now destroy most of the tactics. when you have to perform allways the same hit series for combos which in some cases also includes hits in all directions like barbarians wreck armor combo then there is not so much difference in which direction the shields are before you start the combo. another thing that makes tactics rather meaningless is the very limited AI of the mobs. Once you played the game for a bit you can predict very good what a mob will do with its shields, and then you find a sequence and could macro it and it will work on most mobs.
As i posted in theory the combat system is good, but they destroy parts of the tactical things again with combos and the bad ai.
finally i also agree with the posters here that those that highly praise aoc have not played any of the pre WoW mmos (and can probably not understand the fun you could have in the dungeon groups in these games, today in the instances its more like a sightseeing tour), and most of them probably are still in the more poslished part of the game mostly 1-30. 30-40 shows a allready the first rough edges apearing under the slowly disapearing polish.
the game is full of bugs, but apart, AOC is awesome.
you dont like it?? well...
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
Skamper you need to stop acting like an idiot and get it through your head that the game was just released to the general public and all mmorpgs (maybe mmos in general) have issues during their launch. Are you new to this genre?
In fairness this game excels till about Level 50 when suddenly all the quest dry up and its a grindfest. And lets be honest here they are still whackamole 0/10 quests nothing really visionary. This game was marketed for the casual player and unless casual means happy to spend 2 hours a day for 2 months grinding some Cannibal Cave then I think Funcom are very much mistaken.
My apologies, had originally posted this response with some bad math. My bad for posting half asleep. (yes so bad i have gone back to edit it to save face )
Still if the 250 hours to reach lvl 80 is true then that would make AoC more casual then say WoW?
Tell me, what is so good about this game? AoC is pure quest grinder! Nothing more. There is no content besides quests and pretty graphics. This is not a PvP or a PvE game. It's a quest grinding game. In PvP games you have some sort of PvP system or PvP objectives besides ganking. In PvE games you have dungeons that are somewhat important.
People who praise AoC on these boards have low level chars. They like to label others who critique this game as trolls. I guarantee. Most of them will be gone after lvl 40-50. If you ask them what is so awesome about it, you will not get any good answer besides graphics.
I've been waiting for a year to play any decent MMO. And right now I don't even want to log in to play AoC. Because I know all I'll be doing is grinding quests.
Maybe you should be playing Lineage 2 or any of the gazillion Korean mmorpgs. I think this is where you will find your pot of gold.
For me, playing AoC in the current state is like watching the first Conan-Movie put together by youtube-bits. ... some scenes are missing, the cutter paisted false scenes together, sometimes the audio track is missing or with wrong language, some times you see scenes from other movies, sometimes the screen is upside down, sometimes it looks like VHS, sometimes like HD-DVD... and the last three minutes are missing.
BUT: The experience is still more entertaining then watching Teletubbies (-> WoW) There are countless sequels of Teletubbies, great and flawless designed for the Teletubbie-audience...
finally i also agree with the posters here that those that highly praise aoc have not played any of the pre WoW mmos (and can probably not understand the fun you could have in the dungeon groups in these games, today in the instances its more like a sightseeing tour), and most of them probably are still in the more poslished part of the game mostly 1-30. 30-40 shows a allready the first rough edges apearing under the slowly disapearing polish.
I did ... I am 40 years old and I play MMOs for a long time ... tbh ... these games while they were great at the times ... suck ... time goes on and thankfully many good game designers out there weeded out the problems these early games had. I am pretty happy about instancing and the possibility this technique has ... from solving technical problems up to the story telling and immersion aspects.
I remember Brad McQuaids posts regarding how to avoid kill stealing of mobs in Vanguard and "Meaningful travel". I was curious how they wanted to solve these problems -- and know what? -- They didnt!
the game is full of bugs, but apart, AOC is awesome.
you dont like it?? well...
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
Skamper you need to stop acting like an idiot and get it through your head that the game was just released to the general public and all mmorpgs (maybe mmos in general) have issues during their launch. Are you new to this genre?
Actually you need to get it through your head this game was released majorily unfinished, and with false promises. Not a single part of my post, except for customer service and -maybe- guild cities, relates in anyway to the release factor of an mmorpg. They have had 5 years to develop content, and they dropped the ball. This game was hyped with directx 10 features and where are they? You must be just another forum troll.
And as for the "genre" part: NexusTK, Ultima Online, Dark Ages (not camelot), EVE, World of Warcraft, Everquest 1/2, Age of Conan, Planetside, Lineage1/2, Shadowbane, and random free ones. Never heard of some of those? Well you probably haven't seeing as you haven't been around as long as I have.
finally i also agree with the posters here that those that highly praise aoc have not played any of the pre WoW mmos (and can probably not understand the fun you could have in the dungeon groups in these games, today in the instances its more like a sightseeing tour), and most of them probably are still in the more poslished part of the game mostly 1-30. 30-40 shows a allready the first rough edges apearing under the slowly disapearing polish.
I would like to point out that you are wrong on this point and I don't really believe that I'm just an exception to the rule. UO happened a decade ago, when I had four times the amount of free time and far less things to do with it. The old recipes don't work because the old crowd has changed and can't keep up with them.
Tell me, what is so good about this game? - Well, there's a few things I can think of.
AoC is pure quest grinder! Nothing more. - Some folks like quest grinders vs mob grinders
There is no content besides quests and pretty graphics. - I've heard theres crafting, and city building, and PVP, mounted combat and sieges maybe one day. Looking forward to them.
This is not a PvP or a PvE game. It's a quest grinding game. - Well, on the PVP server I've gotten into some fun fights, but I'll grant you, its not designed around the PVP (see WAR) it is designed around the storyline and the quests. (You haven't really noticed the storyline, I can tell)
In PvP games you have some sort of PvP system or PvP objectives besides ganking. - Well, again, I'd say see WAR, but there's supposed to be blood money rewards and stuff, but maybe thats not fully implemented. In the meantime, I gank.
In PvE games you have dungeons that are somewhat important. - Where? AOC's dungeons seem pretty typical so far, and being level 18, I certainly haven't been on any raids.
People who praise AoC on these boards have low level chars. - Not really true, I've seen some folks in their 40's and 50's do it.
They like to label others who critique this game as trolls. - Well, yeah, thats a known phenomenon on these forums, and people who praise the game are all 'fanbois', everyone knows that.
I guarantee. Most of them will be gone after lvl 40-50. - Maybe so, maybe not, we'll have to wait and see won't we.
If you ask them what is so awesome about it, you will not get any good answer besides graphics. - You haven't read some of the other posts in these forums then, because I've seen all sorts of info about what folks like about the game. Maybe you don't like it, but they do.
I've been waiting for a year to play any decent MMO. And right now I don't even want to log in to play AoC. But you haven't offfered any information on what you feel a decent game would consist of? I suspect you want a sandbox type game, if so, quit looking at obvious quest grinders and wait for Darkfall to come out.
Because I know all I'll be doing is grinding quests. - Well, duh, you think? That's the model set by WOW, and picked up on by LotRO and AOC. (probably a host of others). It might not be your style of game, and you'll have to find your fun elsewhere.
Who the hell are you, and why should I care? Congrats! You are a victim of Trollstar!
Tell me, what is so good about this game? The combat is fun, i woud not call it awesome but just fun, for me fun does not have to be ALL AWESOME aslong i do enjoy myself. AoC is pure quest grinder! Nothing more. I understand if you are new to this genre then yeah you might percieve a MMORPG as if it's all grind. Else experiance would have thought you not to judge a game that soon There is no content besides quests and pretty graphics. Yes i know the new gen of players only are able ot totaly depend on game feature's, it's a shame really within this genre to see this happening, also a shame that people simply refuse to understand that it's their playstyle. Else if someone does not like a game i see no reason for such a person to make a topic about it, unless he or she is new to this genre. This is not a PvP or a PvE game. It's a quest grinding game. Again something that i feel only a newb to this genre might say. In PvP games you have some sort of PvP system or PvP objectives besides ganking. Sorry no comment not playing the pvp side in this genre In PvE games you have dungeons that are somewhat important. Importance is how players could persieve things
People who praise AoC on these boards have low level chars. Probebly the more mmorpg players who have lower lvl's as far i see it the newb grinds his ass of to hit max lvl in no time, the experiance'd mmorpg player takes his/her time to enjoy many aspect of this genre They like to label others who critique this game as trolls. I don't critic you as being a troll, you just seem somewhat slightly unexperiance'd with this genre...... I guarantee. Most of them will be gone after lvl 40-50. the rush grinder will indeed leave due to them being burned out by their own playstyle, happens with about every mmorpg ever made If you ask them what is so awesome about it, you will not get any good answer besides graphics. Again i don't know this AWESOME you keep saying, i feel the game is decent and is growing as like with each and every mmorpg ever created, to expect a perfect game means you either never ever played gamesi n this genre or you simply refuse to actualy remember what happend with every other mmorpg ever created.
I've been waiting for a year to play any decent MMO. And right now I don't even want to log in to play AoC. Because I know all I'll be doing is grinding quests. Try changing your playstyle, might help might not. Overall AoC isn't every ones cup of tea, just like every other mmorpg ever created there will be people that don't like it. Sometimes i really think that people need to get out more often or actualy build on experiance within this genre. This additude i see from OP shows me either the person has played WOW only (nothing wrong with that) but it would explain why someone would make a topic like this.
the game is full of bugs, but apart, AOC is awesome.
you dont like it?? well...
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
So, when you want to see boobs you click in your website? ...hmm, you can see it in real life too, you know ...
Ok Skamper the lonely internet boob collector... lets talk about AoC
Yes, the story mode similar to Guild Wars is very very good.... you know, Guild Wars is a very successful game, between critic and players...
The art and music of Age of Conan is amazing and it is exacly what every Hyboria fan would expect.
The game play and classes are very well done, a mix between GuildWars and Everquest2 for me... unbalance is present in every mmo
Grouping in AoC is dynamic and very exciting
The lore
The best aspect is, the RPG part in Conan is very strong, if you dont like it, well, it is just your opinion, I dont like a lot of games, but Im not silly enough to think if I dont like the game is bad.
In fairness this game excels till about Level 50 when suddenly all the quest dry up and its a grindfest. And lets be honest here they are still whackamole 0/10 quests nothing really visionary. This game was marketed for the casual player and unless casual means happy to spend 2 hours a day for 2 months grinding some Cannibal Cave then I think Funcom are very much mistaken.
didn't play the game at all did you?
It takes 250 hours roughly to hit lvl 80. (That would be 2.5 hours a day x 10 days) Several players did it in the first week on my server. So your insistance that one must grind 2 hours day for 2 months is well..
Please come back with you have some facts rather then i heard this from poster X .
I hate to do this to you, but, 2.5 x 10 = 25, not 250
It would take around 100 days at 2.5 hours a day, if it indeed does average to 250 hours to hit 80. I'm at 41 with around 32 hours played.
the game is full of bugs, but apart, AOC is awesome.
you dont like it?? well...
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
So, when you want to see boobs you click in your website? ...hmm, you can see it in real life too, you know ...
Ok Skamper the lonely internet boob collector... lets talk about AoC
Yes, the story mode similar to Guild Wars is very very good.... you know, Guild Wars is a very successful game, between critic and players...
The art and music of Age of Conan is amazing and it is exacly what every Hyboria fan would expect.
The game play and classes are very well done, a mix between GuildWars and Everquest2 for me... unbalance is present in every mmo
Grouping in AoC is dynamic and very exciting
The lore
The best aspect is, the RPG part in Conan is very strong, if you dont like it, well, it is just your opinion, I dont like a lot of games, but Im not silly enough to think if I dont like the game is bad.
Nice try at attempting to insult me over the internet. Doesn't really work.
Guild wars is a free to play game where you purchase the box/account. There's the difference.
Let's see if the art and music is good, then maybe Funcom should've made a movie. My gosh!
Ya the class are well done? My level 40 guardian is basically invincible to all melee attacks? That's well done? Mage archetypes do practically no damage, whereas the tempest of set does massive?
Grouping is dynamic how? Every single group I've been in everyone just rushes in and unload all their spells, and a random person dies.
Lore is present in practically every single MMORPG. I'm assuming what you mean is how involved do you feel with the world around you? Okay so here's the story I'm feeling so far (im level 40). You're a slave, you crash on tortage. You do some quests on tortage and level up. Strom is this mean guy doing shit to the tortagians whatever. You level up even more and kill strom. Then what? Who's the bad guy after that? What the fuck are you even doing? Why are you doing it. If you're going to make the story for the players you need to at least make them feel involved, and have an overarching goal for them, while achieving minor goals.
I just hit 41 and am having a blast. I've grouped plenty in my trek so far, and done a handful of the dungeons, all of which were fricking awesome. AoC has outdoor and indoor dungeons to avoid that damned repetative feel of, o look, another cave. They also have put some of the group content out in the middle of the zones, which I enjoyed as well. I don't see the problem with quest grinding. Would you rather not have quests at all? Also, PvP will have siege battles and minigames, not just ganking, perhaps you'd be happier on a PvE server. Also, PvE has (will have) not sure, around 10 end game dungeons with tiered gear.
I don't see what's missing. And for playing with friends, you can change instances to your friends, and communicate accross instances, you just can't see everyone. I would HATE this game without the instances, I already spend enough time spawn camping.
This post is so funny )
It WILL have this and it will have that ...
You know Alfa and Beta is over !
"I don't see what's missing" part to conclude such a post is just hilariuos.
In my last 4 sessions of Conan (2 hours playing time, because I get a rash after that...) I have had the chance to do just ONE PvP minigame. In all other cases a waiting time of more than 1.5 hours resulted in 0 games°
And you know what? My normal FPS in solo was 40, in the city/zones it was 25 to 30 and when battling it out with 6 or 7 players at once I had 2 to 3(!!!!) FPS in a PRELOADED minigame !.
This game surprises me more each day.
Zorndorf
You realized you almost never get a reply? All things you say about AoC are just your experience.
See, you love World of Warcraft, right?
I never liked WoW classes, lore and art, for me it was always easier to get into games like Everquest 2, Vanguard and Guild Wars, the RPG and universe part of WoW it too Walt Disney for me... do I hate WoW? NO
See, because I really like Cronenberg´s movies, should I hate Star Wars ? No, and I dont...
My point is, you probably dont like the games I mentioned as you dont like AoC... but well, I just cant have fun playing a paladin or a hunter ( too cliche for me ) in a very very colorful world like WoW universe... soo
AoC, Everquest 2 and all games you hate are the kind of games people like me want to see... music , art, lore and gameplay from AoC for me is much more immersive than the pseudo seamless world from WoW.
You should have fun with the things you like and just forget the things that doesnt harm you, even if you dont like these things..like AoC...
What do you do now you say! easy play the game for what it is...a roleplay game not a follow this line game. Its all how you decide to play the game friend. i am a Ranger and i play the game as one. i have lost most of my memory in the shipwreck and feel lost in this strange world. i dont understand how i got here and how to get back but all i do know is that this is a dangerous world and i need to kill to survive, i need to raise money to feed and clothe myself. hopefully i will meet friends long my path and maybe one day find a purpose on this god forsaken world. Imagination is the key to playing these games. lets face it its that bad it kept you playing for 40+ levels
I just hit 41 and am having a blast. I've grouped plenty in my trek so far, and done a handful of the dungeons, all of which were fricking awesome. AoC has outdoor and indoor dungeons to avoid that damned repetative feel of, o look, another cave. They also have put some of the group content out in the middle of the zones, which I enjoyed as well. I don't see the problem with quest grinding. Would you rather not have quests at all? Also, PvP will have siege battles and minigames, not just ganking, perhaps you'd be happier on a PvE server. Also, PvE has (will have) not sure, around 10 end game dungeons with tiered gear.
I don't see what's missing. And for playing with friends, you can change instances to your friends, and communicate accross instances, you just can't see everyone. I would HATE this game without the instances, I already spend enough time spawn camping.
This post is so funny )
It WILL have this and it will have that ...
You know Alfa and Beta is over !
"I don't see what's missing" part to conclude such a post is just hilariuos.
In my last 4 sessions of Conan (2 hours playing time, because I get a rash after that...) I have had the chance to do just ONE PvP minigame. In all other cases a waiting time of more than 1.5 hours resulted in 0 games°
And you know what? My normal FPS in solo was 40, in the city/zones it was 25 to 30 and when battling it out with 6 or 7 players at once I had 2 to 3(!!!!) FPS in a PRELOADED minigame !.
This game surprises me more each day.
Zorndorf
You realized you almost never get a reply? All things you say about AoC are just your experience.
See, you love World of Warcraft, right?
I never liked WoW classes, lore and art, for me it was always easier to get into games like Everquest 2, Vanguard and Guild Wars, the RPG and universe part of WoW it too Walt Disney for me... do I hate WoW? NO
See, because I really like Cronenberg´s movies, should I hate Star Wars ? No, and I dont...
My point is, you probably dont like the games I mentioned as you dont like AoC... but well, I just cant have fun playing a paladin or a hunter ( too cliche for me ) in a very very colorful world like WoW universe... soo
AoC, Everquest 2 and all games you hate are the kind of games people like me want to see... music , art, lore and gameplay from AoC for me is much more immersive than the pseudo seamless world from WoW.
You should have fun with the things you like and just forget the things that doesnt harm you, even if you dont like these things..like AoC...
...
Umbral....
That would require thoughtfulness, consideration of others points of view and a general respect for the individuality of everyone posting on these boards.
Sadly, such qualities are of a very low supply in the Forums. The posters actually bothering to point out that they are only stating an opinion of theirs are totally outnumbered by the overzealous fanatics who believe their version of the truth is the only one and god forbid you think differently, because then you are invariably a 1) fanboi or 2) hater.
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I will keep posting this until people realize it:
This game is over simplified and made for Xbox360. Auto-targeting, AOE only heal spells, simple boss encounters, no durability, ZONES because xbox can only handle so much, quests tell you exactly where to go, etc. I can keep listing and listing but you guys will never see it. It's really not fun beta testing an xbox360 game. Plus can't you see why there's lack of content? They're going to release chunks of the game for xbox live points, and we'll probably have to buy content booster packs like EQ2 or whatever. Get over it people. Make your choice now before you get too deep.
Auto targeting? hmm mine system seems to work the same as most mmo's tab or f8 to cycle targets only this game is less linear in the fact that you dont even need to target, like real life lol...example, on my destiny quest i was fighting a pirate and a guard walked by and i hit him with a sweep of my sword and he killed me
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And yes i agree that the quests are spoon fed much like wow etc but as for simple boss encounters,, try going after them before you outlevel them. i always fight above my weight and it makes things much more difficult and interesting.
But lol whats this about needing to buy booster packs etc or use xbox points! i play on a pc mate so that wont count for me
and if i have to buy expansions..then great! i love mmos that expand, hell i brought 14 for Everquest. bring em on.
Ehhh. Another stupid soul.
You have enough quests in Eiglophian mountains for leveling after 50.
And where is that Cannibal cave? Yes you have there four quests and nothing more. You have few better spots for grinding if you want and you don't know anything other to do.
You don't see what's missing because you've probably only played WoW. You're right, nothing is missing in the sense that it feeds you the same boring bullshit WoW does.
I'd rather have quests that were not forced upon me to level. ATM in WoW and AoC the quickest way to level is through doing the quests, so I'm basically forced to do them if I want to be the best.
Secondly, I want quests that aren't so lame and redundant as the ones that we have seen WoW spin off and is now becoming a trend as you see that AoC has the same type and most MMOs coming out will likely copy.
I want a quest that has meaning, and takes actual effort and is hard and challenging. If you had played any of the real MMOs that first came out you'd know what I was talking about.
I LOVE PVP!!! I, however, hate PvP that is instanced. Mini-games, instanced Siege PvP...FUCKING LAME!
PvP is supposed to happen in the game world, not in a damn instance like some damn ride that you wait in line until it's your turn to take part in.
Actually I started MMOs with EQ, played it heavily, I've also played VG for a bit, not enough players around for me. Played LoTRO, had some issue that froze me up, tech support and I couldn't find a solution, but I loved the game when I could play. I also played SWG when it first came out, but didn't care for it. I've also played AC, UO, Tabula Rasa, CoH/CoV, DDO, basically any commercial MMO, I've tried it.I don't mind doing quests to level and AoC does put more effort into their quests than most games I've seen. A lot of the quests don't take very long at all and give good rewards. There have also been some interesting quests, such as in Tartantia Noble district you are sent to investigate a murder, after all 3 suspects turn out to be not guilty, the quest log simply tells you to "find a pattern in insanity". So I go running around near the crime scene for a while and realize one of the walls is breakable, I break the wall and find a pile of bodies and a deranged killer. I thought this was a nice twist on things.
As far as hard and challenging, the quests are getting harder and I'm finding things a lot easier and more enjoyable to do as a group. I haven't run into anything truely epic yet, but one of the group quests in Conall's valley took my party and I around 10 times to clear. I don't expect anything truely epic until later in game. If you like world PvP, they have PvP servers...
Basically you haven't shown anything wrong with the game, just that it doesn't fit your play style, which is fine, go play something else.
It WILL have this and it will have that ...
You know Alfa and Beta is over !
"I don't see what's missing" part to conclude such a post is just hilariuos.
In my last 4 sessions of Conan (2 hours playing time, because I get a rash after that...) I have had the chance to do just ONE PvP minigame. In all other cases a waiting time of more than 1.5 hours resulted in 0 games°
And you know what? My normal FPS in solo was 40, in the city/zones it was 25 to 30 and when battling it out with 6 or 7 players at once I had 2 to 3(!!!!) FPS in a PRELOADED minigame !.
This game surprises me more each day.
The only thing I said about "will have" was the end game instances, and that's only because I don't know and I don't want to post falsehoods.Did you ever think people are trying to level instead of doing PvP minigames?
For your FPS, I don't know what to tell you.
Like I told the last guy. If you can't show something actually wrong with the game other than you don't like it, go play something else.
the game is full of bugs, but apart, AOC is awesome.
you dont like it?? well...
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
no autoattack: k you won't automatically hit in between the combos but other than that most of the combat is still using the combos (for which you now need to click 4-5 buttons in endgame). the only real advantage of the combat system is the different hit directions and directional blocking, thats the point that i like about the system the problem is that combos like they are in game now destroy most of the tactics. when you have to perform allways the same hit series for combos which in some cases also includes hits in all directions like barbarians wreck armor combo then there is not so much difference in which direction the shields are before you start the combo. another thing that makes tactics rather meaningless is the very limited AI of the mobs. Once you played the game for a bit you can predict very good what a mob will do with its shields, and then you find a sequence and could macro it and it will work on most mobs.
As i posted in theory the combat system is good, but they destroy parts of the tactical things again with combos and the bad ai.
finally i also agree with the posters here that those that highly praise aoc have not played any of the pre WoW mmos (and can probably not understand the fun you could have in the dungeon groups in these games, today in the instances its more like a sightseeing tour), and most of them probably are still in the more poslished part of the game mostly 1-30. 30-40 shows a allready the first rough edges apearing under the slowly disapearing polish.
But I agree ... AoC is an awesome game
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
Skamper you need to stop acting like an idiot and get it through your head that the game was just released to the general public and all mmorpgs (maybe mmos in general) have issues during their launch. Are you new to this genre?
My apologies, had originally posted this response with some bad math. My bad for posting half asleep. (yes so bad i have gone back to edit it to save face
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Still if the 250 hours to reach lvl 80 is true then that would make AoC more casual then say WoW?
Maybe you should be playing Lineage 2 or any of the gazillion Korean mmorpgs. I think this is where you will find your pot of gold.
Well, is AoC awesome?
For me, playing AoC in the current state is like watching the first Conan-Movie put together by youtube-bits. ... some scenes are missing, the cutter paisted false scenes together, sometimes the audio track is missing or with wrong language, some times you see scenes from other movies, sometimes the screen is upside down, sometimes it looks like VHS, sometimes like HD-DVD... and the last three minutes are missing.
BUT: The experience is still more entertaining then watching Teletubbies (-> WoW) There are countless sequels of Teletubbies, great and flawless designed for the Teletubbie-audience...
...but it's still "Eh-Oh!"
I remember Brad McQuaids posts regarding how to avoid kill stealing of mobs in Vanguard and "Meaningful travel". I was curious how they wanted to solve these problems -- and know what? -- They didnt!
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
Skamper you need to stop acting like an idiot and get it through your head that the game was just released to the general public and all mmorpgs (maybe mmos in general) have issues during their launch. Are you new to this genre?
Actually you need to get it through your head this game was released majorily unfinished, and with false promises. Not a single part of my post, except for customer service and -maybe- guild cities, relates in anyway to the release factor of an mmorpg. They have had 5 years to develop content, and they dropped the ball. This game was hyped with directx 10 features and where are they? You must be just another forum troll.
And as for the "genre" part: NexusTK, Ultima Online, Dark Ages (not camelot), EVE, World of Warcraft, Everquest 1/2, Age of Conan, Planetside, Lineage1/2, Shadowbane, and random free ones. Never heard of some of those? Well you probably haven't seeing as you haven't been around as long as I have.
I would like to point out that you are wrong on this point and I don't really believe that I'm just an exception to the rule. UO happened a decade ago, when I had four times the amount of free time and far less things to do with it. The old recipes don't work because the old crowd has changed and can't keep up with them.
Who the hell are you, and why should I care?
Congrats! You are a victim of Trollstar!
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
So, when you want to see boobs you click in your website? ...hmm, you can see it in real life too, you know ...
Ok Skamper the lonely internet boob collector... lets talk about AoC
Yes, the story mode similar to Guild Wars is very very good.... you know, Guild Wars is a very successful game, between critic and players...
The art and music of Age of Conan is amazing and it is exacly what every Hyboria fan would expect.
The game play and classes are very well done, a mix between GuildWars and Everquest2 for me... unbalance is present in every mmo
Grouping in AoC is dynamic and very exciting
The lore
The best aspect is, the RPG part in Conan is very strong, if you dont like it, well, it is just your opinion, I dont like a lot of games, but Im not silly enough to think if I dont like the game is bad.
didn't play the game at all did you?It takes 250 hours roughly to hit lvl 80. (That would be 2.5 hours a day x 10 days) Several players did it in the first week on my server. So your insistance that one must grind 2 hours day for 2 months is well..
Please come back with you have some facts rather then i heard this from poster X .
I hate to do this to you, but, 2.5 x 10 = 25, not 250
It would take around 100 days at 2.5 hours a day, if it indeed does average to 250 hours to hit 80. I'm at 41 with around 32 hours played.
Tell me what's awesome. Is it useless guild cities? Is it extremely repetitive quests? Is it lack of a PVP system? Is it the zoning/instances created for xbox360? Is it the lack of content? Is it the amazing dx10 graphics? Is it the single player/guild wars style story line? Is it the customer support? Is it the class unbalances? Or how about this, is it the over simplified gameplay mechanics aimed to look cool for young teens*?
*this game is clearly aimed for the fun xbox360 crowd. If I wanted to see boobs, I'd click to my website.
So, when you want to see boobs you click in your website? ...hmm, you can see it in real life too, you know ...
Ok Skamper the lonely internet boob collector... lets talk about AoC
Yes, the story mode similar to Guild Wars is very very good.... you know, Guild Wars is a very successful game, between critic and players...
The art and music of Age of Conan is amazing and it is exacly what every Hyboria fan would expect.
The game play and classes are very well done, a mix between GuildWars and Everquest2 for me... unbalance is present in every mmo
Grouping in AoC is dynamic and very exciting
The lore
The best aspect is, the RPG part in Conan is very strong, if you dont like it, well, it is just your opinion, I dont like a lot of games, but Im not silly enough to think if I dont like the game is bad.
Nice try at attempting to insult me over the internet. Doesn't really work.Guild wars is a free to play game where you purchase the box/account. There's the difference.
Let's see if the art and music is good, then maybe Funcom should've made a movie. My gosh!
Ya the class are well done? My level 40 guardian is basically invincible to all melee attacks? That's well done? Mage archetypes do practically no damage, whereas the tempest of set does massive?
Grouping is dynamic how? Every single group I've been in everyone just rushes in and unload all their spells, and a random person dies.
Lore is present in practically every single MMORPG. I'm assuming what you mean is how involved do you feel with the world around you? Okay so here's the story I'm feeling so far (im level 40). You're a slave, you crash on tortage. You do some quests on tortage and level up. Strom is this mean guy doing shit to the tortagians whatever. You level up even more and kill strom. Then what? Who's the bad guy after that? What the fuck are you even doing? Why are you doing it. If you're going to make the story for the players you need to at least make them feel involved, and have an overarching goal for them, while achieving minor goals.
It WILL have this and it will have that ...
You know Alfa and Beta is over !
"I don't see what's missing" part to conclude such a post is just hilariuos.
In my last 4 sessions of Conan (2 hours playing time, because I get a rash after that...) I have had the chance to do just ONE PvP minigame. In all other cases a waiting time of more than 1.5 hours resulted in 0 games°
And you know what? My normal FPS in solo was 40, in the city/zones it was 25 to 30 and when battling it out with 6 or 7 players at once I had 2 to 3(!!!!) FPS in a PRELOADED minigame !.
This game surprises me more each day.
Zorndorf
You realized you almost never get a reply? All things you say about AoC are just your experience.
See, you love World of Warcraft, right?
I never liked WoW classes, lore and art, for me it was always easier to get into games like Everquest 2, Vanguard and Guild Wars, the RPG and universe part of WoW it too Walt Disney for me... do I hate WoW? NO
See, because I really like Cronenberg´s movies, should I hate Star Wars ? No, and I dont...
My point is, you probably dont like the games I mentioned as you dont like AoC... but well, I just cant have fun playing a paladin or a hunter ( too cliche for me ) in a very very colorful world like WoW universe... soo
AoC, Everquest 2 and all games you hate are the kind of games people like me want to see... music , art, lore and gameplay from AoC for me is much more immersive than the pseudo seamless world from WoW.
You should have fun with the things you like and just forget the things that doesnt harm you, even if you dont like these things..like AoC...
...
What do you do now you say! easy play the game for what it is...a roleplay game not a follow this line game. Its all how you decide to play the game friend. i am a Ranger and i play the game as one. i have lost most of my memory in the shipwreck and feel lost in this strange world. i dont understand how i got here and how to get back but all i do know is that this is a dangerous world and i need to kill to survive, i need to raise money to feed and clothe myself. hopefully i will meet friends long my path and maybe one day find a purpose on this god forsaken world. Imagination is the key to playing these games. lets face it its that bad it kept you playing for 40+ levels
It WILL have this and it will have that ...
You know Alfa and Beta is over !
"I don't see what's missing" part to conclude such a post is just hilariuos.
In my last 4 sessions of Conan (2 hours playing time, because I get a rash after that...) I have had the chance to do just ONE PvP minigame. In all other cases a waiting time of more than 1.5 hours resulted in 0 games°
And you know what? My normal FPS in solo was 40, in the city/zones it was 25 to 30 and when battling it out with 6 or 7 players at once I had 2 to 3(!!!!) FPS in a PRELOADED minigame !.
This game surprises me more each day.
Zorndorf
You realized you almost never get a reply? All things you say about AoC are just your experience.
See, you love World of Warcraft, right?
I never liked WoW classes, lore and art, for me it was always easier to get into games like Everquest 2, Vanguard and Guild Wars, the RPG and universe part of WoW it too Walt Disney for me... do I hate WoW? NO
See, because I really like Cronenberg´s movies, should I hate Star Wars ? No, and I dont...
My point is, you probably dont like the games I mentioned as you dont like AoC... but well, I just cant have fun playing a paladin or a hunter ( too cliche for me ) in a very very colorful world like WoW universe... soo
AoC, Everquest 2 and all games you hate are the kind of games people like me want to see... music , art, lore and gameplay from AoC for me is much more immersive than the pseudo seamless world from WoW.
You should have fun with the things you like and just forget the things that doesnt harm you, even if you dont like these things..like AoC...
...
Umbral....That would require thoughtfulness, consideration of others points of view and a general respect for the individuality of everyone posting on these boards.
Sadly, such qualities are of a very low supply in the Forums. The posters actually bothering to point out that they are only stating an opinion of theirs are totally outnumbered by the overzealous fanatics who believe their version of the truth is the only one and god forbid you think differently, because then you are invariably a 1) fanboi or 2) hater.
*shrugs* That's these forums in a nutshell.
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