actually Vanguard does have alot more content the AOC. alot more working content on top of that. most of the content for AOC is borked in one form or another, or not even in game yet. just cause AOC has 80 levels and Vanguard 50 does not mean more content. just more grinding for aoc.
Oh really? Vanguard was so content starved when it came out that you had to travel across the world just to find enough quests(and even then you didn't have enough and had to repeat the repeatable ones), while in this game you have so many quests that it's nearly impossible to do them all before outleveling them. Remember the missive grinds? I do. Unless SoE added 400% more quests, there is no way in hell Vanguard has more content. If by content you mean empty structures and stretches of land without anything, then sure it has more content.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Oh really? Vanguard was so content starved when it came out that you had to travel across the world just to find enough quests(and even then you didn't have enough and had to repeat the repeatable ones), while in this game you have so many quests that it's nearly impossible to do them all before outleveling them. Remember the missive grinds? I do. Unless SoE added 400% more quests, there is no way in hell Vanguard has more content. If by content you mean empty structures and stretches of land without anything, then sure it has more content.
I ran out of quests in 10 days playing AOC. I didn't run out of quests in Vanguard in 10 days. And the crafting in Vanguard was much deeper and actual worked, and I sold a ton of stuff. The crafting in AOC is broken and useless.
I don't have to have played the game to come to a negative conclusion, or understand how bad the game is IMO!
I think I have found a new Tagline...
"I don't have to have played the game to come to a negative conclusion, or understand how bad the game is IMO! "
LOL if that doesn't sum up the entire Conan-haters Club I don't know what could.
A Classic is born.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
I know I love buying things that people have said are bad, just to play them realize they are terrible and want to kick myself in the nuts for waisting the money.
I bought the game. Played it and after a week realised i wasted the money. Those 50$ could have been used for much better things....like - lighting a fire !
was in the beta
And then, canceled my preorder. Tried it, played it. the only thing i'm going to buy : the music, on ITunes. Music is really GREAT.
In six months this game is going to be perfect? Well by then you ll have WAR, WOTLK, possibly AION, TCOS. I ll take my chances and not buy it:) WAR is where i ll be and i m sure alot will be there as well.
" I won't play this game, I heard its bad." Yeah, I heard someone saw Elvis Presley walking in memphis 2 weeks ago... if you never try, then you never know, play the game before you judge, what other alternative do you have? lord of the rings online? world of warcraft? no thanks..
dont get fooled and throw away your cash ever just to judge it yourself.
thats how companies make money from hype and not from quality and thats why the MMO standards get lower and lower.
LoTR ? yes its better then AOC
WoW? yes its better then AOC
Everquest2? yes its better then AOC
hell even Vanguard now is better then AOC.
... You can't be serious? .... You are...
How much are they paying you?
I've learned to really ignore posts on these forums and read reviews on more popular game sites that are based on CONSUMER ratings. Seriously, look at WoW's rating: It's lower than FFXI's. That should tell anybody that the majority of people that post/rate are being paid by the companies, although that argument could be applied to AoC's current top rating at 8.6 (which is dropping).
I am personally enjoying the game, but I won't write a review until I've hit 80 and experienced most of it's content. My honest opinion is that the game trumps most of the other MMO's IF AND ONLY IF you have the computer to run it adequately. Comparing Vanguard and AoC, however, is nothing short of nonsense given that AoC has MUCH MORE content than Vanguard does now after all of SOE's contributions.
AoC has more content than Vanguard??? Who the hell is paying you to say that?? I now know why open beta wasn't allowed to go past level 13. I got to level 40 in release, decided to do some crafting to let some friends catch up. AoC crafting is one of the biggest jokes I have seen in all the mmo's I have played and I've played almost everyone on the market. I made no attempt to go past level 40 because of all the negative post about no content past level 50. Sure, eventually it will have this content.. but I wouldn't buy it now.
If they get the buddy system up before my sub runs out, I will gladly give up as many keys as I can.. but unless you just have $50 to blow I would recommend waiting.
I am playing AoC along with a few other friends ... we all love it! I played WoW for as long as I could. I am also still in WAR Beta.... as I was on AoC beta I prefer AoC!!! Bugs? well, even DAoC, EQ2, WoW, plus all MMORPGs still has'em
AoC will improve as the others have... 1 day at a time.
play what you have fun in... I will & am
See this is what makes the world interesting:) You re in WAR beta as am i. You like AOC better then WAR as i like WAR way better then AOC. Different strokes for different folks. This whole AOC is better, no WAR is better is funny. If i like WAR way better doesn t make it better for you. Oh well such is life i guess.
In six months this game is going to be perfect? Well by then you ll have WAR, WOTLK, possibly AION, TCOS. I ll take my chances and not buy it:) WAR is where i ll be and i m sure alot will be there as well.
Wow it will be great to play a pvp wow like war , enjoy the great graphics lol
So many Good mmorpgs coming out lately...even free ones like NeoSteam, sorry going off topic, alright. Age of Conan is pretty sweet, ive tried it but I must say: The Graphics are to good to run on some peoples computers, so not much people probably playing...
In six months this game is going to be perfect? Well by then you ll have WAR, WOTLK, possibly AION, TCOS. I ll take my chances and not buy it:) WAR is where i ll be and i m sure alot will be there as well.
Wow it will be great to play a pvp wow like war , enjoy the great graphics lol
I see graphics are what matters to you. Silly thing to say like WOW it s not even close i can t think of where to start. RVR and WOW pvp lol no comparison. Try the beta first and come back and tell me that Don t tell me you are in beta because if you are , you wouldn t make such a claim.
I am playing AoC along with a few other friends ... we all love it! I played WoW for as long as I could. I am also still in WAR Beta.... as I was on AoC beta I prefer AoC!!! Bugs? well, even DAoC, EQ2, WoW, plus all MMORPGs still has'em
AoC will improve as the others have... 1 day at a time.
play what you have fun in... I will & am
See this is what makes the world interesting:) You re in WAR beta as am i. You like AOC better then WAR as i like WAR way better then AOC. Different strokes for different folks. This whole AOC is better, no WAR is better is funny. If i like WAR way better doesn t make it better for you. Oh well such is life i guess.
Wow, ok...it seems I am the only person not in the War Beta around...been playing the tabletop version for years and I'm still patiently waiting for a spot that might never come...I really hope I can grab a spot before release and test out the game
AoC has more content than Vanguard??? Who the hell is paying you to say that?? I now know why open beta wasn't allowed to go past level 13. I got to level 40 in release, decided to do some crafting to let some friends catch up. AoC crafting is one of the biggest jokes I have seen in all the mmo's I have played and I've played almost everyone on the market. I made no attempt to go past level 40 because of all the negative post about no content past level 50. Sure, eventually it will have this content.. but I wouldn't buy it now. If they get the buddy system up before my sub runs out, I will gladly give up as many keys as I can.. but unless you just have $50 to blow I would recommend waiting.
I wish somebody were paying me to say that. There are more quests in Tortage+Tesso than the other starting areas in VG combined (i.e. Dahknarg + Veskal's). I haven't tried crafting in AoC yet and probably won't, because I generally hate it (in WoW, VG, EQ2 etc.). Are you seriously saying that VG crafting is better? That was one of the hugest grindfests in any game to date, although the items did have some use... not to mention that it was a watered down version of EQ2's.
I couldn't get past 30 in VG, because the quests ran dry, so I really don't understand how you can rag on AoC..
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
AoC has more content than Vanguard??? Who the hell is paying you to say that?? I now know why open beta wasn't allowed to go past level 13. I got to level 40 in release, decided to do some crafting to let some friends catch up. AoC crafting is one of the biggest jokes I have seen in all the mmo's I have played and I've played almost everyone on the market. I made no attempt to go past level 40 because of all the negative post about no content past level 50. Sure, eventually it will have this content.. but I wouldn't buy it now. If they get the buddy system up before my sub runs out, I will gladly give up as many keys as I can.. but unless you just have $50 to blow I would recommend waiting.
I wish somebody were paying me to say that. There are more quests in Tortage+Tesso than the other starting areas in VG combined (i.e. Dahknarg + Veskal's). I haven't tried crafting in AoC yet and probably won't, because I generally hate it (in WoW, VG, EQ2 etc.). Are you seriously saying that VG crafting is better? That was one of the hugest grindfests in any game to date, although the items did have some use... not to mention that it was a watered down version of EQ2's.
I couldn't get past 30 in VG, because the quests ran dry, so I really don't understand how you can rag on AoC..
Hehe... I would have to ask you the same question.. must be just something about the two games that make us have different opinions. Everything you described about VG is exactly what I found wrong with AoC and I feel exact opposite about VG. It definately had problems from the beginning, but I found myself overwhelmed with so many quest. Leveling is so fast in AoC and I was running out of quest at my level around 40 that I went back to do quest that were already grey to me just to have something to do. As for crafting... VG has one of the best IMO. EQ2 was just too much. Crafted items in AoC have no purpose.. you can find much better from drops. I'm sure they will make it somewhat better, but harvesting is just plain idiotic unless you like standing in line to harvest. Each node only produces at max 10 resources and a slow respawn rate. Very few nodes are in the areas where you quest. Just give it a try, you'll see what I mean. I do have all the nodes tagged in Poitan if you want the xml file so you don't have to find them all.
Well whoopty-friggen-do if the game plays good to you! that has nothing to do with my decision not to play. Nor does it prevent me from discussing the game in a negative way! Just as you have the right to discuss it in a positive way! I don't have to have played the game to come to a negative conclusion, or understand how bad the game is IMO! Thats just dumb to waste money knowing its all for naught. The way I see it, the negatives outweigh the postives a thousand-fold regardless of if the people enjoying it are here posting or not!
I totally agree.
I've been reading forums about AOC to help me decide if I should buy it or not. What I have concluded is that it would be best to wait, because there is so much more cons to the game than pros. Many things wrong with it are gamebreakers for me, and I can't see why I would buy it.
I don't understand how some people think that a game must be played to know if you will actually enjoy it or not. This is a ridiculous stance and you people are the reason MMO's suck at release. "How do you know if you don't try it?" Because I'm not a fool, goodday.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Ururun
Originally posted by Khrymson
Well whoopty-friggen-do if the game plays good to you! that has nothing to do with my decision not to play. Nor does it prevent me from discussing the game in a negative way! Just as you have the right to discuss it in a positive way! I don't have to have played the game to come to a negative conclusion, or understand how bad the game is IMO! Thats just dumb to waste money knowing its all for naught. The way I see it, the negatives outweigh the postives a thousand-fold regardless of if the people enjoying it are here posting or not!
I totally agree.
I've been reading forums about AOC to help me decide if I should buy it or not. What I have concluded is that it would be best to wait, because there is so much more cons to the game than pros. Many things wrong with it are gamebreakers for me, and I can't see why I would buy it.
I don't understand how some people think that a game must be played to know if you will actually enjoy it or not. This is a ridiculous stance and you people are the reason MMO's suck at release. "How do you know if you don't try it?" Because I'm not a fool, goodday.
There is nothing wrong with forumulating opinion beforehand. I do the same, but such decisions are made easier from those who have actually played the game when weighing things up. unlike mis-informed chinese whisper posts that Khrymson likes to make.
i like to take opinions from players who have a little mileage behind them in game time.
Well whoopty-friggen-do if the game plays good to you! that has nothing to do with my decision not to play. Nor does it prevent me from discussing the game in a negative way! Just as you have the right to discuss it in a positive way! I don't have to have played the game to come to a negative conclusion, or understand how bad the game is IMO! Thats just dumb to waste money knowing its all for naught. The way I see it, the negatives outweigh the postives a thousand-fold regardless of if the people enjoying it are here posting or not!
I totally agree.
I've been reading forums about AOC to help me decide if I should buy it or not. What I have concluded is that it would be best to wait, because there is so much more cons to the game than pros. Many things wrong with it are gamebreakers for me, and I can't see why I would buy it.
I don't understand how some people think that a game must be played to know if you will actually enjoy it or not. This is a ridiculous stance and you people are the reason MMO's suck at release. "How do you know if you don't try it?" Because I'm not a fool, goodday.
There is nothing wrong with forumulating opinion beforehand. I do the same, but such decisions are made easier from those who have actually played the game when weighing things up. unlike mis-informed chinese whisper posts that Khrymson likes to make.
i like to take opinions from players who have a little mileage behind them in game time.
I cherry picked the opinions that seemed the most logical and from people who "supposedly" played the game, and I came to my decision that way. If I had a chance to try the game out without spending $50 than I would.
Well I just took over my friends account which still has some time on it, so I plan on giving it a fair shot. Just finished installing it (after threatening to destroy the first disc because it kept erroring when installing the Intro file (which he said to just click ignore and it will finish installing, which it did) so now I am just patching.
I figured what the hell, not like I'm paying for it nor am I playing anything currently. It will give me something to do when the kid is sleeping.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Personally I would say that the best thing that AoC did was the pre-order headstart. Having access to the game fully for 10 days for all of 5 bucks, not having to buy the box or pay a sub or anything was perfect. I was able to get in game and in those 10 days level up to 50 or 51 and see what the game had to offer.
Having seen how few quests there are post 40, how small the zones actually are (they feel larger for a while due to the constant back and forth, but in reality they are not all that big overall), and the absolutely abysmal crafting and resource system I was able to decide that AoC just is not the game for me.....with only $5 cost to myself.
Somehow I doubt devs down the line will offer a similar option as I am sure they'd have liked that extra 50 bucks from me.....one can only hope though.
got to be some thing wrong most people i know have stoped playing aoc some have even gone back to silkroad of all games . my xfire was full of people playing now i hardly see any one . the fact is people are loseing intrest in this game very quick . are at least t waiting few months befor coming back on again
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actually Vanguard does have alot more content the AOC. alot more working content on top of that. most of the content for AOC is borked in one form or another, or not even in game yet. just cause AOC has 80 levels and Vanguard 50 does not mean more content. just more grinding for aoc.
Oh really? Vanguard was so content starved when it came out that you had to travel across the world just to find enough quests(and even then you didn't have enough and had to repeat the repeatable ones), while in this game you have so many quests that it's nearly impossible to do them all before outleveling them. Remember the missive grinds? I do. Unless SoE added 400% more quests, there is no way in hell Vanguard has more content. If by content you mean empty structures and stretches of land without anything, then sure it has more content.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
"I don't have to have played the game to come to a negative conclusion, or understand how bad the game is IMO! "
LOL if that doesn't sum up the entire Conan-haters Club I don't know what could.
A Classic is born.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
I know I love buying things that people have said are bad, just to play them realize they are terrible and want to kick myself in the nuts for waisting the money.
Bought it, Installed it, Played it, Uninstalled it, Gave it away.
Heres my judgment: Some may like it, others may not. As for me, I hated it.
was in the beta
And then, canceled my preorder. Tried it, played it. the only thing i'm going to buy : the music, on ITunes. Music is really GREAT.
Well buy it and play it , this is a great game and funcom is going to make it even better.
In six months this is going to be perfect.
Oh yes u can always go back and spend countless hours in the arena or farming karahzan , yeah that would be lot's of fun (what a waste of time)
I bet half the hater population on these forums and they are a lot , are currently playing the game whining or spamming the ooc channel with wow chat.
In six months this game is going to be perfect? Well by then you ll have WAR, WOTLK, possibly AION, TCOS. I ll take my chances and not buy it:) WAR is where i ll be and i m sure alot will be there as well.
dont get fooled and throw away your cash ever just to judge it yourself.
thats how companies make money from hype and not from quality and thats why the MMO standards get lower and lower.
LoTR ? yes its better then AOC
WoW? yes its better then AOC
Everquest2? yes its better then AOC
hell even Vanguard now is better then AOC.
... You can't be serious? .... You are...
How much are they paying you?
I've learned to really ignore posts on these forums and read reviews on more popular game sites that are based on CONSUMER ratings. Seriously, look at WoW's rating: It's lower than FFXI's. That should tell anybody that the majority of people that post/rate are being paid by the companies, although that argument could be applied to AoC's current top rating at 8.6 (which is dropping).
I am personally enjoying the game, but I won't write a review until I've hit 80 and experienced most of it's content. My honest opinion is that the game trumps most of the other MMO's IF AND ONLY IF you have the computer to run it adequately. Comparing Vanguard and AoC, however, is nothing short of nonsense given that AoC has MUCH MORE content than Vanguard does now after all of SOE's contributions.
AoC has more content than Vanguard??? Who the hell is paying you to say that?? I now know why open beta wasn't allowed to go past level 13. I got to level 40 in release, decided to do some crafting to let some friends catch up. AoC crafting is one of the biggest jokes I have seen in all the mmo's I have played and I've played almost everyone on the market. I made no attempt to go past level 40 because of all the negative post about no content past level 50. Sure, eventually it will have this content.. but I wouldn't buy it now.
If they get the buddy system up before my sub runs out, I will gladly give up as many keys as I can.. but unless you just have $50 to blow I would recommend waiting.
I am playing AoC along with a few other friends ... we all love it!
I played WoW for as long as I could.
I am also still in WAR Beta.... as I was on AoC beta
I prefer AoC!!!
Bugs? well, even DAoC, EQ2, WoW, plus all MMORPGs still has'em
AoC will improve as the others have... 1 day at a time.
play what you have fun in... I will & am
Bick
See this is what makes the world interesting:) You re in WAR beta as am i. You like AOC better then WAR as i like WAR way better then AOC. Different strokes for different folks. This whole AOC is better, no WAR is better is funny. If i like WAR way better doesn t make it better for you. Oh well such is life i guess.
Wow it will be great to play a pvp wow like war , enjoy the great graphics lol
So many Good mmorpgs coming out lately...even free ones like NeoSteam, sorry going off topic, alright. Age of Conan is pretty sweet, ive tried it but I must say: The Graphics are to good to run on some peoples computers, so not much people probably playing...
Neosteam.com
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Wow it will be great to play a pvp wow like war , enjoy the great graphics lol
I see graphics are what matters to you. Silly thing to say like WOW it s not even close i can t think of where to start. RVR and WOW pvp lol no comparison. Try the beta first and come back and tell me that
Don t tell me you are in beta because if you are , you wouldn t make such a claim.
See this is what makes the world interesting:) You re in WAR beta as am i. You like AOC better then WAR as i like WAR way better then AOC. Different strokes for different folks. This whole AOC is better, no WAR is better is funny. If i like WAR way better doesn t make it better for you. Oh well such is life i guess.
Wow, ok...it seems I am the only person not in the War Beta around...been playing the tabletop version for years and I'm still patiently waiting for a spot that might never come...I really hope I can grab a spot before release and test out the game
I wish somebody were paying me to say that. There are more quests in Tortage+Tesso than the other starting areas in VG combined (i.e. Dahknarg + Veskal's). I haven't tried crafting in AoC yet and probably won't, because I generally hate it (in WoW, VG, EQ2 etc.). Are you seriously saying that VG crafting is better? That was one of the hugest grindfests in any game to date, although the items did have some use... not to mention that it was a watered down version of EQ2's.
I couldn't get past 30 in VG, because the quests ran dry, so I really don't understand how you can rag on AoC..
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Most important of all - stick with it, i did the same mistakes in the years before.
I wish somebody were paying me to say that. There are more quests in Tortage+Tesso than the other starting areas in VG combined (i.e. Dahknarg + Veskal's). I haven't tried crafting in AoC yet and probably won't, because I generally hate it (in WoW, VG, EQ2 etc.). Are you seriously saying that VG crafting is better? That was one of the hugest grindfests in any game to date, although the items did have some use... not to mention that it was a watered down version of EQ2's.
I couldn't get past 30 in VG, because the quests ran dry, so I really don't understand how you can rag on AoC..
Hehe... I would have to ask you the same question.. must be just something about the two games that make us have different opinions. Everything you described about VG is exactly what I found wrong with AoC and I feel exact opposite about VG. It definately had problems from the beginning, but I found myself overwhelmed with so many quest. Leveling is so fast in AoC and I was running out of quest at my level around 40 that I went back to do quest that were already grey to me just to have something to do. As for crafting... VG has one of the best IMO. EQ2 was just too much. Crafted items in AoC have no purpose.. you can find much better from drops. I'm sure they will make it somewhat better, but harvesting is just plain idiotic unless you like standing in line to harvest. Each node only produces at max 10 resources and a slow respawn rate. Very few nodes are in the areas where you quest. Just give it a try, you'll see what I mean. I do have all the nodes tagged in Poitan if you want the xml file so you don't have to find them all.
I totally agree.
I've been reading forums about AOC to help me decide if I should buy it or not. What I have concluded is that it would be best to wait, because there is so much more cons to the game than pros. Many things wrong with it are gamebreakers for me, and I can't see why I would buy it.
I don't understand how some people think that a game must be played to know if you will actually enjoy it or not. This is a ridiculous stance and you people are the reason MMO's suck at release. "How do you know if you don't try it?" Because I'm not a fool, goodday.
I totally agree.
I've been reading forums about AOC to help me decide if I should buy it or not. What I have concluded is that it would be best to wait, because there is so much more cons to the game than pros. Many things wrong with it are gamebreakers for me, and I can't see why I would buy it.
I don't understand how some people think that a game must be played to know if you will actually enjoy it or not. This is a ridiculous stance and you people are the reason MMO's suck at release. "How do you know if you don't try it?" Because I'm not a fool, goodday.
There is nothing wrong with forumulating opinion beforehand. I do the same, but such decisions are made easier from those who have actually played the game when weighing things up. unlike mis-informed chinese whisper posts that Khrymson likes to make.
i like to take opinions from players who have a little mileage behind them in game time.
I totally agree.
I've been reading forums about AOC to help me decide if I should buy it or not. What I have concluded is that it would be best to wait, because there is so much more cons to the game than pros. Many things wrong with it are gamebreakers for me, and I can't see why I would buy it.
I don't understand how some people think that a game must be played to know if you will actually enjoy it or not. This is a ridiculous stance and you people are the reason MMO's suck at release. "How do you know if you don't try it?" Because I'm not a fool, goodday.
There is nothing wrong with forumulating opinion beforehand. I do the same, but such decisions are made easier from those who have actually played the game when weighing things up. unlike mis-informed chinese whisper posts that Khrymson likes to make.
i like to take opinions from players who have a little mileage behind them in game time.
I cherry picked the opinions that seemed the most logical and from people who "supposedly" played the game, and I came to my decision that way. If I had a chance to try the game out without spending $50 than I would.
Well I just took over my friends account which still has some time on it, so I plan on giving it a fair shot. Just finished installing it (after threatening to destroy the first disc because it kept erroring when installing the Intro file (which he said to just click ignore and it will finish installing, which it did) so now I am just patching.
I figured what the hell, not like I'm paying for it nor am I playing anything currently. It will give me something to do when the kid is sleeping.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Personally I would say that the best thing that AoC did was the pre-order headstart. Having access to the game fully for 10 days for all of 5 bucks, not having to buy the box or pay a sub or anything was perfect. I was able to get in game and in those 10 days level up to 50 or 51 and see what the game had to offer.
Having seen how few quests there are post 40, how small the zones actually are (they feel larger for a while due to the constant back and forth, but in reality they are not all that big overall), and the absolutely abysmal crafting and resource system I was able to decide that AoC just is not the game for me.....with only $5 cost to myself.
Somehow I doubt devs down the line will offer a similar option as I am sure they'd have liked that extra 50 bucks from me.....one can only hope though.
got to be some thing wrong most people i know have stoped playing aoc some have even gone back to silkroad of all games . my xfire was full of people playing now i hardly see any one . the fact is people are loseing intrest in this game very quick . are at least t waiting few months befor coming back on again