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I don't normally care enough to post here and, in fact, the sad state of the AoC forum here has completely turned me away but hopefully if some sane people are testing the waters and have stumbled upon this slop bucket of nastiness looking for guidance I can dissuade them from being turned away from Age of Conan.
I run barely above the minimum requirements for AoC and experience no problems. The game is fun but certainly not intended for players that want to max loot or for those who derive self esteem from success in a video game. The combat system is elegant and is only "button mashing" for those who are not inclined to learn the subtleties. The community can be annoying but so can people.
I am perplexed by the negativity and I am only thankful that it did not stop me from buying the game. To those who continue to post their vitriol, it is well within your rights to do so but perhaps your energies would be better spent promoting something you like rather than attacking something you don't.
All the best
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And I'd like to thank everyone who made sure that all the information about AoC was on these forums. Thanks to you more people aren't buying the game thinking things like crafting are in game. you've saved me and quite a few of my friends. keep up the good work and don't let this person make you think only positive opinions are good.
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
geez OP if your gonna make a commercial, write a more interesting one?
Sigh,
And this is why I wish casual gamers realized that the opinions expressed here in no way or form represent general opinion or the player base. I'm happy that people here are interested in the industry and the technology but so much of their personality needn't be vested in these games.
All the best
They think that Warhammer will magically be perfect and save the MMO world, and of course Warcraft will introduce new astounding features to satisfy them.
What are you new to the internet? To game forums? Probably don't even see the irony of being a pro-AoC extremist Vs. a Con-AoE extremist.
Every MMO that comes out has negative comments and positive.
You'll insult the Cons with "Troll", they will call you a fanboi. See how that works?
If you want to advertise the game as good, take it down a notch.
Lastly, coming into a forum to insult the people who use the forum ain't gonna win you any support.
Thanks, you just told us AoC is not an MMO. Or an RPG. I guess it's just a MOG. Which is all well and good, but people should wait for buddy keys or a trial first. And chew on this:
Maybe there's a reason why there's so much negativity? You can only go so much with making up stuff to slander the game's image. Are you saying that every "negative" (I have no doubt that if you read a review and saw one negative thing you'd pounce on it) thing is just full of hot air?
I've decided not to try AoC, not for a long time, longer than a few months. And it's because of how Funcom runs their game and how the game is sub-par (even if they're fixing up the boo boos with Band-aids every week).
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I myself am shocked at all the hatred of a product that has been out on the market a little over a month...from everything I understand MOST mmo's when launched have some issues that go with the territory. It is also well known that it takes more than a month to polish it and try to fix it . I think most people agree that an mmo is really "a true representation of what was suppose to be available at release" a good 4 to 8 months from the day of its release...perhaps longer.
Yes the game has issues, no it's not perfect and perhaps the dev team has applied time to things we think are inconsequential. Does that mean that they aren't still working on the things that need to be fixed...I doubt it.
It's a good game, still needs work, but will get it, and in 3 to 7 months we should have a much better idea of where this game is headed. I will continue to keep playing and see if funcom works this out as I am sure they will.
I didn't rush to the end of the game so I'm not worried about the endgame yet. There are no bugs making the game unbearable and in fact it's quite enjoyable at lvl 40.
Best of luck to all who try it, kudos to those holding back to see what people say (but take the mmo community with a grain of salt...luv em but they can be a bit whiney and negative...not all the time and there are some incredible people playing mmo's so I am not speaking about everyone one...), and hope you find what you are looking for to those who have moved on already.
Currently Playing: FFXIV:ARR
Looking Forward to: Wildstar
Thanks, you just told us AoC is not an MMO. Or an RPG. I guess it's just a MOG. Which is all well and good, but people should wait for buddy keys or a trial first. And chew on this:
Maybe there's a reason why there's so much negativity? You can only go so much with making up stuff to slander the game's image. Are you saying that every "negative" (I have no doubt that if you read a review and saw one negative thing you'd pounce on it) thing is just full of hot air?
I've decided not to try AoC, not for a long time, longer than a few months. And it's because of how Funcom runs their game and how the game is sub-par (even if they're fixing up the boo boos with Band-aids every week).
You know you have a very subtle way of trashing the game every single day.
How do you know the game is sub par if you don't even give it a chance? It's actually a fun game.
The very few AoC fans that even bother with these forums know very well there are the same group trashing the game every day. If you don't like it great. Don't play it, but why bother doing this day after day?
I'd seriously like to know.
What are you new to the internet? To game forums? Probably don't even see the irony of being a pro-AoC extremist Vs. a Con-AoE extremist.
Every MMO that comes out has negative comments and positive.
You'll insult the Cons with "Troll", they will call you a fanboi. See how that works?
If you want to advertise the game as good, take it down a notch.
Lastly, coming into a forum to insult the people who use the forum ain't gonna win you any support.
Couldn't of said it any better myself...
Participate in a few discussions here and earn yourself some credibility before you start originating threads like this one. People will just think you're a Funcom shill, and you'll do your cause more harm than good.
In fact, I think you you really are a shill. But you're so unconvincing I'm wondering if you are an anti. Working for SOE, etc..
Thanks, you just told us AoC is not an MMO. Or an RPG. I guess it's just a MOG. Which is all well and good, but people should wait for buddy keys or a trial first. And chew on this:
Maybe there's a reason why there's so much negativity? You can only go so much with making up stuff to slander the game's image. Are you saying that every "negative" (I have no doubt that if you read a review and saw one negative thing you'd pounce on it) thing is just full of hot air?
I've decided not to try AoC, not for a long time, longer than a few months. And it's because of how Funcom runs their game and how the game is sub-par (even if they're fixing up the boo boos with Band-aids every week).
You know you have a very subtle way of trashing the game every single day.
How do you know the game is sub par if you don't even give it a chance? It's actually a fun game.
The very few AoC fans that even bother with these forums know very well there are the same group trashing the game every day. If you don't like it great. Don't play it, but why bother doing this day after day?
I'd seriously like to know.
Because I'm bored, honestly, WAR and the other new MMOs take too long. Also, when I try it and see how polished it is then I will eat my own words don't worry . I tend to believe people who say negative things over positive things because if you like something your opinion is obviously going to be skewed. You could say the same for hating something 100% too but I think most people are just disgruntled subscribers who said they like it but it's not good enough right now.
There have been really good reviews with both sides of the fence though and I respect that, no matter if the reviewer says it's good overall or bad overall.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Perhaps I'm being misunderstood. I posted this so that people who come here, but do not actively participate in the community looking for information about the game would have yet another resource. I am not trying to persuade the people "on" this forum of anything, but there are many who come here and watch but do not post and it is to them that I was writing. I actually find most of the regular posters here a little scary, as with all the on-line debates I am uncertain that any actually have an opportunity to play any of these games. I am fairly indifferent to labels and to say I am a "shill" is ludicrous and places undue credit on my significance, if any.
I enjoy playing AoC and I want to see others enjoy playing the game. People are free to hate the game or to leave but I hope that those still unsure will not be unduly swayed by the much easier and more emotional negative comments.
I have been coming to this site for several years and much of what I've learned about mmorpgs is from here and I thank everyone that contributes to the forums, but I am unsure how a low post count reflects on the validity of my opinion. Again I am confused, however, by anger in responses when there is absolutely nothing worthwhile to get angry about.
All the best
Well, calling people misfits on these boards sure doesn't help your case. But I understand where you're coming from, people who watch but don't anything need both sides of the story.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Nay sayers probably AO vets. We love the game, hate the company, especially when that idiot co/founder/whatever Gaute Godager get a saying. From what I hear about AoC it suffers from the same shit AO had at launch, just at a smaller scale. So I'll wait some 8-12 months before even looking at it, getting a buddy/trial key then, and I'm probably not alone in that decision...and as a last note, it is possible to lauch an mmo relatively bugfree, just look at WoW's and LotR's launch. Hardly any bugs at launch, and the few they had where fixed quickly. Oh, AO got bugs dating back to launch by the way, sounds good for the future of AoC yes???
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Grammar nazi's. This one is for you.
no offense to the OP or anyone who enjoys this game, but the game is not finished. and when i say it's not finished, I don't mean the quests are unfinished, there isn't enough content or animations suck. no, when I say the game is unfinished I mean it's programming is horrible. if you are lucky enough to have a computer that doesn't get sick of aoc's horrible programming, good for you.
but the vast majority of people, are playing this game on 30 and below fps, people with super computers getting no more than 15 fps.
and don't tell me the human eye can only register 20 because it's bullcrap, even if it WERE true, you can still FEEL it because it's on a computer, and anything below 30 will lag your computer, which is why 30 is the MINIMUM on consoles, because you can't sell a game with shitty performance.
the negativity aoc gets is DESERVED. they shot their own foot, gamers didn't do it. so come in here and preach all you want about how great the game is.. because there are more people who are upset with conan than actually enjoy it.
people don't think WAR is going to be the end all be all game, they are hoping it will be.. and if it performs as crappy as aoc does, then it will get the same negativity, and it will also have the the same type of people who will defend every broken aspect about it..
Thanks, you just told us AoC is not an MMO. Or an RPG. I guess it's just a MOG. Which is all well and good, but people should wait for buddy keys or a trial first. And chew on this:
Maybe there's a reason why there's so much negativity? You can only go so much with making up stuff to slander the game's image. Are you saying that every "negative" (I have no doubt that if you read a review and saw one negative thing you'd pounce on it) thing is just full of hot air?
I've decided not to try AoC, not for a long time, longer than a few months. And it's because of how Funcom runs their game and how the game is sub-par (even if they're fixing up the boo boos with Band-aids every week).
You know you have a very subtle way of trashing the game every single day.
How do you know the game is sub par if you don't even give it a chance? It's actually a fun game.
The very few AoC fans that even bother with these forums know very well there are the same group trashing the game every day. If you don't like it great. Don't play it, but why bother doing this day after day?
I'd seriously like to know.
Because I'm bored, honestly, WAR and the other new MMOs take too long. Also, when I try it and see how polished it is then I will eat my own words don't worry . I tend to believe people who say negative things over positive things because if you like something your opinion is obviously going to be skewed. You could say the same for hating something 100% too but I think most people are just disgruntled subscribers who said they like it but it's not good enough right now.
There have been really good reviews with both sides of the fence though and I respect that, no matter if the reviewer says it's good overall or bad overall.
Well, from a casual gamer point of view, it's a really fun game. I'm not a person that can waste my life playing a game 12-18 hours a day and really don't see how people do that, and I know there is allot of people that do.
Honestly, how many people come to these forums to look for a game any way? Probably not as many as everyone thinks, and as soon as AoC is released to Xbox it won't matter any way because I can bet almost none of the console gamers read these forums.
may want to start working the Xbox forums too
Funny wat lvl ru mr OP? How many classes have u played?. O OK. I have 2 lvl 70s and numerus lvl 20s. Bloodspire Server. Yes i once defended this game and now i do not. I dont support a bunch of money hungry scammers. Yes Funcom are a bunch of scammers. Wanna no why. Cause everything they promised at lunch wasnt there. Plus so much broken BS. Sorry i dont pay to test out a car until it gets fixed and then buy it. I buy a product for it to work they way its supposed to.
Heres a post i made read it. Dont believe someone already put the link up to the forums. READ THEM.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2096906/thread/186809#2096906
Darkfalls so revolutionary it uninstalls itself.
So if people like me have been here at mmorpg.com for 4+ years and we like to express our opinion of the game, we are considered misfits (as per the title of this thread.) There is a huge difference between stating why you don't like a game, and simply bashing the game for no reason.
Whenever someone gives their honest opinion of the game and that opinion is negative, it's not his opinion anymore -somehow it is turned into him bashing the game and being a troll. And then said person is told "Well, if you don't like the game then leave, go back to WoW, etc."
If it is someone's opinion that the game is no where near ready, they have every right to post it. And the reason you're seeing more negative posts? It's pretty normal for any MMORPG, because most of the time the only ones who post about the game are the people who aren't having fun and playing.
I certainly did not intend to label everyone here a misfit. There is a small percentage of people here who present themselves ... umm ... in a manner not consistent with generally acceptable social discourse.
And to Truewarrior1, it is unfortunate that everything Funcom promised at lunch was not there. I believe they are Norwegian, however, and herring with sour cream is, i believe, a staple.
I may end up not enjoying this game down the road like so many others but i do believe it is worth what is being charged.
All the best
Do yourself a favour if you arer thinking about AoC. Wait until you get the chance at a free trial.
AoC is absolutely brilliant on the first 20 levels. Once you are past that you are past all the polish of the game. That's where the meat of the game and the meat of the complaints are. You should be able to get past level 20 in 7 days and see if you like the game or not. It would be a shame to waste $50 on the game if you find like I did it was a total shell. I feel immensely ripped off by Funcom and I would hope to spare some people of the same.
Waiting for the next thing
AOC fans make threads advising people not to listen to this forum - every week
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2088942#2088942
EQ2 fan sites
First of all, it is not just "this forum". I browse the official forums every now and then and I see the same exact thing there as well.
Second, there IS a great difference between Technical difficulties at launch AND false advertisement, my friend.
I passed by a local computer shop a few days ago, there was this giant Age of Conan banner advertising the game. it said "Blood, Violence, Bar fights! Come join Hyboria!" one of those three is not even in the game!
In addition some of the technical difficulties run deeper than just the surface and some of them are clear indication of oversight that should not be there in a professional product of this day and age. I'm talking about the female avatars suffering from slower (up to 33%) attack speed, the sieges being so horribly broken that you win by cheating, the huge gold/level speed exploits in the game right now, the crafting system being clearly untested and not working, the broken skills of so many classes... these are not technical difficulties, they are too widespread for that.
Plus Age of Conan was supposed to be the herald of the DX10 generation... but it launched without a dx10 client... so much for being a game designed for dx10 from the get go, eh?
To be fair, they are probably paying the price of trying to hard to get new things going, as we know, walking on known ground is much easier than pioneering, but still, this is not some garage amateur project, this is a AAA mmorpg and people expect a certain level of quality from these beasts nowadays.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Hehe, I think you hit a nerve there with the absence of the directX 10 support. This is part of the reason I cancelled my own subscription (really busy work schedule & summer time don't allow for even casual play). I'm one of those people that invest good money on top of the line PC hardware and expect that hardware to be utilised. In this respect, the only two games that are currently on par with today's graphics standards are EVE and LOTRO (please correct me if I forgot anything). It's no surprise that these two games combine top of the line graphics with top of the line gameplay.
Please don't bother trying to correct me in regards to gameplay and how much more important than graphics is. This logic is a false one (at least I believe it is). If AoC is a failure due to shallow gameplay despite the excellent graphics, any game that has subpar graphics and good gameplay is a failure in my book as well. It's all about the package of features. The more complete it is, the better the game it is. Certain aspects of course are more important, but cutting corners is generally a bad sign.
Besides, good gameplay is a given (or should be). Why play a non-fun game in the first place?
I really enjoy this game too and I think the biggest problem is not with the game, but with bad attitude by the players. This was the first mmorpg I have tried and the game is very good! But im thinking about stop playing just because I have never seen this amount of hate and negative attitude in a game community ever. I dont know if I want to be a part of this kind of "community".