Okay vets you all have 30 days of free gameplay because of the new publish! I know i'm going to get flamed, but as a 5 year vet returning i want you all to just try and give your 30 days a chance and come join all of us returning vets on kettemoor! make a new toon and get in touch with one of the many Novus/SoK members as soon as possible for one of the best SWG experiances i've ever had, and i'm confident you'll feel the same!
Erm, no, not all vets have 30 days free starting right now.
Because I participated in the last vet trial, which was in May.
So, no publish-related vet trial for me!
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Really? Can I play my Creature Handler / Ranger again?
No?
In that case, never mind.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II "People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
See, I myself wouldn't mind coming back as a subscriber, if 1) it was only $10 a month now & 2) it wasn't already dead. I get on there during 'vet days' and it's empty and boring. It's hard to even get into a PuG let alone find a working city and guild. Don't get me wrong, I'm another loyalist to pre-cu and just as bitter as the others, but I'm also an avid Star Wars fan.
That's okay thunderous, everyone has their own opinion. I was a beta tester for this game, and loved it since day 1. Yes NGE is not as good in any way shape or form as pre-cu was, i know. But the devs have implemented many things lately which are making this game worth while. You don't like SWG in its current state, i do. Just like you just said WOW and AOC are good crop games. I think WOW is the biggest excuse for a good mmorpg, and i bought AOC and unsub'd after a week. I think it was the biggest flop ever. It's just opinions, i too am a pre-cu vet. Many vet's are coming back to SWG it just depends on what you like. I've played ton's of MMO's and can never stay sub'd long enough to do anything because i try to compare them all to SWG and they, in my opinion, stink.
You said SOE brought some good to SWG recently; what good did they bring? I am not being sarcastic, I just really want to know. I don't do research on the game anymore, not since the last time I tried it earlier this year for a month.
I have a CL 90 Jedi, and a CL 80 pre-NGE toon I haven't touched yet. I don't want to play those again; I'd rather create a new character. One huge thing in my way is the boring leveling system. Long ago, we used to group up and kill things for xp, now we are soloing these insanely boring Legacy Quests. I've already done the legacy quests several times and will not do it again. So unless SOE has somehow changed the game to where leveling with others is better or they created an alternative way to leveling than Legacy quests, I won't return...not even for free.
Also, I won't return if they haven't fixed the Jedi issues players have been complaining about for years, such as a FRS system among several other things. Another thing bugging me is the economy. Try leveling pilot along with your ground levels. It isn't going to happen, because the ships and the parts are priced for those whove been playing for years and have millions of credits. The ability to wear whatever clothes you want as a Jedi through clothing attachments doesn't change anything when the cost for them is only affordable to those with millions. Also, I'm finally happy they added 5th gen sabers, so we can finally use whatever type of saber we want, but they still have special lightsaber crystals which make it unfriendly to players who'd rather use a different colored crystal. They introduced new cloaks, but failed to realize that everyone will have them, so everyone will still look the same still.
These are my gripes with the game...gripes that didn't exist pre-NGE. I don't care anymore if they want a class/level based MMORPG. I just care if the game is fun and is doing the Star Wars name justice. I watch the movies and read the books, then play SWG and think that SWG is terrible. SWG doesn't seam like Star Wars at all, other than the skin.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
you guys who still play it is what keeps SOE's hand feed with a little food money. Actually, informed opinion puts the game at around (75 thousand subscribers). That is not impressive (even sad) but it's enough to keep it going. Don't forget that the Station Pass can also float this game indeffinately. Just continue to love the game you love to play and don't look back. I love a positive attitude. You know what company you are dealing with, you seen what they are capable of doing I am of the opinion that they will never make that mistake again (not listing to us). Look at Vanguard and how they are doing everything the players vote for. Also, Smed outright apologized for the NGE (which if you think about it is amazing coming from a major corporation head). That being said pics are not going to prove anything stroke the e-peen all day but you and I know this is the internet, it can be searched, downloaded and copyright infringe on a daily bases. Getting a pic of SWG pre-CU is like going to get the mail you know something is going to be in there.
My name is the same. Are you joking? I have litterally hundreds of pre-cu pics. Not to mention plenty of people who have been in this board for over 5 years who know me here and knew me in game back in 2003. Here is a pic of my wife and I on the Bloodfin server back during pre-CU. We were in the Imperial guild VEA, which a friend of mine told me on the phone a couple months ago is still going 5 years strong. Anyone remember GeorgeW.Bush, the leader of VEA?
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Okay vets you all have 30 days of free gameplay because of the new publish! I know i'm going to get flamed, but as a 5 year vet returning i want you all to just try and give your 30 days a chance and come join all of us returning vets on kettemoor! make a new toon and get in touch with one of the many Novus/SoK members as soon as possible for one of the best SWG experiances i've ever had, and i'm confident you'll feel the same!
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
Favourite Game SWG - Sabanak, Retired Jedi, Bria
Playing: Nothing
Waiting for: SWG Pre-CU
Retired: SWG, CoX, Vanguard, MxO, Guildwars, Archlord, Auto Assault, EQ2, Final Fantasy XI, Lineage 2, Saga of Ryzom, DAOC, WoW, AOC, WAR
OK, I'm game. I just did a vet trial in May, but quit due to the ungodly amount of game crashes I had and the lack of players to group with. I see that I now have another vet trial available. A few questions first. My old character was a "smugglerish" charatcer with lots of wilderness survial skills, actually more like a ranger. I am now a smuggler on Starsider and yo be frank, it sucks. What class now most resembles the old ranger, spy? Also I enjoy Roleplaying, does this new group on Kettemoor roleplay? Finally, is this Novus/SoK you speak of a guild, player city, or what? I enjoyed SWG even during the CU, but the lack of players will not even really let me give it a fair shake.
Okay vets you all have 30 days of free gameplay because of the new publish! I know i'm going to get flamed, but as a 5 year vet returning i want you all to just try and give your 30 days a chance and come join all of us returning vets on kettemoor! make a new toon and get in touch with one of the many Novus/SoK members as soon as possible for one of the best SWG experiances i've ever had, and i'm confident you'll feel the same!
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
It seems they have a timer to determine if you're eligible for another free trial, based upon how long ago you had a free trial. I suspect that if you were logged in on "pending" status less than 90 days ago the current free trial is not intended for you.
However, come say September or so, if you were in on the previous free vet trial, you'll be eligible for another 30 or so days of free SWG. Because they need to pad those 'active accounts" numbers somehow.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
It's just opinions, i too am a pre-cu vet. Many vet's are coming back to SWG it just depends on what you like. I've played ton's of MMO's and can never stay sub'd long enough to do anything because i try to compare them all to SWG and they, in my opinion, stink.
I resemble that remark and in all honestly hosal has more maturity then half the adults on this board.
Like others many people have tried so many mmorpg's and come running back to swg (yes running..). Like others I await an mmorpg that can top SWG but as of yet nothing has compared to it so I enjoy the game warts and all and quite honestly even with all the changes I find no other game that can hold a candle to it for the type of open gameplay and fun in it.
When someone makes a game as good as that one people will notice it and follow until then this game is doing very well. If people take time to really think about this and look at the changes and revamps and really think about this. There is a large number of players who can easily for lack of a better way to put it admit (me included) that this game is still one of the best on the market if not the best. So IN SPITE of past bumps and turns in the road the game is doing well and is drawing customers back (again myself included). There has to be a reason why people who haven't played for years and may have logged in to try a few times in the past (that's me..) and not stayed are now staying. No its not "blind fanboism" its a population of gamers that enjoys this game for what it is now and not just laments about what happened and is long over.
Thank you,
Really all i'm trying to do is help the community of swg and let vet's know they can come back and trial. It doesn't hurt to see how swg is doing, and maybe you will enjoy it. That's all, thanks for everyones input. Negative, and Positive.
Originally posted by Nikoz78 Originally posted by HashBrick you guys who still play it is what keeps SOE's hand feed with a little food money. Actually, informed opinion puts the game at around (75 thousand subscribers). That is not impressive (even sad) but it's enough to keep it going. Don't forget that the Station Pass can also float this game indeffinately. Just continue to love the game you love to play and don't look back. I love a positive attitude. You know what company you are dealing with, you seen what they are capable of doing I am of the opinion that they will never make that mistake again (not listing to us). Look at Vanguard and how they are doing everything the players vote for. Also, Smed outright apologized for the NGE (which if you think about it is amazing coming from a major corporation head). That being said pics are not going to prove anything stroke the e-peen all day but you and I know this is the internet, it can be searched, downloaded and copyright infringe on a daily bases. Getting a pic of SWG pre-CU is like going to get the mail you know something is going to be in there. My name is the same. Are you joking? I have litterally hundreds of pre-cu pics. Not to mention plenty of people who have been in this board for over 5 years who know me here and knew me in game back in 2003. Here is a pic of my wife and I on the Bloodfin server back during pre-CU. We were in the Imperial guild VEA, which a friend of mine told me on the phone a couple months ago is still going 5 years strong. Anyone remember GeorgeW.Bush, the leader of VEA?
I wasn't talking about your pics I mean the others who post in response with pics, you never know, a screenshot of the account activation date would be more fitting if you wanted to prove most haven't played Pre-CU. There's no doubt in my mind you haven't, as I said different tastes for different people.
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
Why did all of our posts get deleted and Nikoz remained? He was flaming US...nice moderation here MMORPG.com, it reminds me of the SOE SWG boards for the past 3 years... Delete what you don't want to hear and ban those who don't say what you want them to say.
Okay vets you all have 30 days of free gameplay because of the new publish! I know i'm going to get flamed, but as a 5 year vet returning i want you all to just try and give your 30 days a chance and come join all of us returning vets on kettemoor! make a new toon and get in touch with one of the many Novus/SoK members as soon as possible for one of the best SWG experiances i've ever had, and i'm confident you'll feel the same!
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
It seems they have a timer to determine if you're eligible for another free trial, based upon how long ago you had a free trial. I suspect that if you were logged in on "pending" status less than 90 days ago the current free trial is not intended for you.
However, come say September or so, if you were in on the previous free vet trial, you'll be eligible for another 30 or so days of free SWG. Because they need to pad those 'active accounts" numbers somehow.
Either way, once I get back home from Toronto, I'm gonna go resub and join kettemoor. If there is indeed some vets to play with and good group of peeps to be with online it should make the game more fun. I have vanguard and eq2, but both of those games werent as much fun as swg was, obviously!
Who should I speak with when I get on kettemoor which prolly wont be until july 5?
Favourite Game SWG - Sabanak, Retired Jedi, Bria
Playing: Nothing
Waiting for: SWG Pre-CU
Retired: SWG, CoX, Vanguard, MxO, Guildwars, Archlord, Auto Assault, EQ2, Final Fantasy XI, Lineage 2, Saga of Ryzom, DAOC, WoW, AOC, WAR
Originally posted by Thunderous Why did all of our posts get deleted and Nikoz remained? He was flaming US...nice moderation here MMORPG.com, it reminds me of the SOE SWG boards for the past 3 years... Delete what you don't want to hear and ban those who don't say what you want them to say. Ridiculous.
What's this our about? Do you label yourself the poster child of SWG vets or what? Hate to break it to you but you are not. If it makes you feel more important in this world though more power to ya.
Maybe I had an epiphany I don't know but this hatred is madness, let the damn current subscribers play the game without lecturing them on a daily bases. It's over and done with cry to your massive collection of Star Wars memorabilia and just wait to see what Bioware pans out. Pretty sure by now it is a proven fact that NGE rage shaves years of your life, is it worth it?
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
Okay vets you all have 30 days of free gameplay because of the new publish! I know i'm going to get flamed, but as a 5 year vet returning i want you all to just try and give your 30 days a chance and come join all of us returning vets on kettemoor! make a new toon and get in touch with one of the many Novus/SoK members as soon as possible for one of the best SWG experiances i've ever had, and i'm confident you'll feel the same!
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
It seems they have a timer to determine if you're eligible for another free trial, based upon how long ago you had a free trial. I suspect that if you were logged in on "pending" status less than 90 days ago the current free trial is not intended for you.
However, come say September or so, if you were in on the previous free vet trial, you'll be eligible for another 30 or so days of free SWG. Because they need to pad those 'active accounts" numbers somehow.
Either way, once I get back home from Toronto, I'm gonna go resub and join kettemoor. If there is indeed some vets to play with and good group of peeps to be with online it should make the game more fun. I have vanguard and eq2, but both of those games werent as much fun as swg was, obviously!
Who should I speak with when I get on kettemoor which prolly wont be until july 5?
You can get in contact with me on Hosal Amaris, or any other character with the Novus guild tag. Which is pretty much anyone and everyone, all vets and or people that have left their server and started a new toon on kett!
Why did all of our posts get deleted and Nikoz remained? He was flaming US...nice moderation here MMORPG.com, it reminds me of the SOE SWG boards for the past 3 years... Delete what you don't want to hear and ban those who don't say what you want them to say.
Ridiculous.
What's this our about? Do you label yourself the poster child of SWG vets or what? Hate to break it to you but you are not. If it makes you feel more important in this world though more power to ya.
Maybe I had an epiphany I don't know but this hatred is madness, let the damn current subscribers play the game without lecturing them on a daily bases. It's over and done with cry to your massive collection of Star Wars memorabilia and just wait to see what Bioware pans out. Pretty sure by now it is a proven fact that NGE rage shaves years of your life, is it worth it?
Dude, did I metion YOU in my post? Nope, I did not. So why don't you take your little sarcasm and place it where someone will bother to care. If I didn't mention YOU, and YOUR post did not get deleted, then why interject your pointless rambling into my posts?
Once more, I did not mention YOU in particular, therefore it is reasonably deducted I did not include YOU or anything related to YOU in my post.
Why did all of our posts get deleted and Nikoz remained? He was flaming US...nice moderation here MMORPG.com, it reminds me of the SOE SWG boards for the past 3 years... Delete what you don't want to hear and ban those who don't say what you want them to say.
Ridiculous.
What's this our about? Do you label yourself the poster child of SWG vets or what? Hate to break it to you but you are not. If it makes you feel more important in this world though more power to ya.
Maybe I had an epiphany I don't know but this hatred is madness, let the damn current subscribers play the game without lecturing them on a daily bases. It's over and done with cry to your massive collection of Star Wars memorabilia and just wait to see what Bioware pans out. Pretty sure by now it is a proven fact that NGE rage shaves years of your life, is it worth it?
so your okay with people playing a game developed from STOLEN money ? I'll never be okay with what SOE did to SWG.
This game's survival is a threat to the entire industry. If SWG lives on, other devs might decide its okay to scrap a player's work. That would lead to a breakdown of the entire genre.
Why invest the time to play MMO's if they can change the game mechanics on a whim ?
sorry but it wasnt stolen money...the money you paid was for time following the payment....so at most you lost half of the month of November ....tops......
sorry but it wasnt stolen money...the money you paid was for time following the payment....so at most you lost half of the month of November ....tops......
not even close....
The NGE took 6+ months to develop in secret. Thats 6 months of paying devs with my subscription fees to make a new game behind our backs. My subscription fees are supposed to pay for fixing bugs and adding content for the game Im playing. Its not meant for the developer to use in any other way. This is why we pay a monthly fee folks.
The expansion was sold to us without informing us that in 2 weeks the game would be completely changed. For me, thats two copies $60 down the drain.
Finally, SOE wouldnt refund our money for prepaid accounts. I had 8 months left on two accounts for Star Wars Galaxies. SOE threw my game in the trash then expected me to be happy to have paid for a new product. We deserved a refund. I didnt buy a quasi-fps beta stage game.
200,000 players didnt just quit for no reason. They objected to the outright stealing and lying SOE did.
To quote Dylan Thomas, "we will not go gently into that good night"
The real question he is trying to outline is would all of the SWG Pre-CU/CU vets STILL subbed knowing that the NGE was being developed for 6 months?
As a SUBSCRIBING customer to an ongoing sandbox game in which you have houses, belongings, skills, and hundreds of hours of gametime, DESERVE to know that the game was secretly being changed in 6 months to the degree it would no longer be the same game?
Did the PAYING customers deserve to know that the game would not exist in November of 2005? I believe they did deserve to know, and there is a BIG reason they weren't told -- Subscription money.
It's that simple. SOE/LA used that money to code a new game instead of fix the existing game.
So it was a LOT more than half a month of subscription money they essentially stole from the customers.
SOE knew full well that if they told us about the NGE when they began coding it that most of us would quit that month, so they kept it a secret. Doesn't take much intelligence to figure that one out.
The real question he is trying to outline is would all of the SWG Pre-CU/CU vets STILL subbed knowing that the NGE was being developed for 6 months? As a SUBSCRIBING customer to an ongoing sandbox game in which you have houses, belongings, skills, and hundreds of hours of gametime, DESERVE to know that the game was secretly being changed in 6 months to the degree it would no longer be the same game? Did the PAYING customers deserve to know that the game would not exist in November of 2005? I believe they did deserve to know, and there is a BIG reason they weren't told -- Subscription money. It's that simple. SOE/LA used that money to code a new game instead of fix the existing game. So it was a LOT more than half a month of subscription money they essentially stole from the customers. SOE knew full well that if they told us about the NGE when they began coding it that most of us would quit that month, so they kept it a secret. Doesn't take much intelligence to figure that one out.
Bingo.
Had SOE told us "hey gang we've decided to revamp the entire game" we likely would have quit immediately. So instead SOE decided to lie to us for the 6 months+ the NGE was being worked on to keep us paying.
Whenever a jedi player would ask "hey when is FRS coming back ?" the reply wasnt "never" it was "soon" This clearly was done to keep taking our money.
If the 200,000 had prior warning and quit, SOE would have had to pay the NGE costs out of their own pockets. So Smedly decides why not lie and get the players to pay for the new game. And a couple of years later Smedly thinks a flimsy apology will make things all better lol ??? The only thing Smedly was sorry for was that his sleazly ploy didnt get the wow numbers he predicted. He certainly wasnt sorry for screwing over the players and stealing our money.
And make no mistake, SOE admitted publicly they knew the majority of players would quit over the NGE. Therefore keeping the NGE a secret was clearly an act of THEFT.
How can the current players justify playing this game ? Or a better question, why would you trust them not to do it again ???
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Works for me and I'm in England.
One of the most crowded servers is in fact a euro one chocked full of people from england.
Erm, no, not all vets have 30 days free starting right now.
Because I participated in the last vet trial, which was in May.
So, no publish-related vet trial for me!
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Really? Can I play my Creature Handler / Ranger again?
No?
In that case, never mind.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
See, I myself wouldn't mind coming back as a subscriber, if 1) it was only $10 a month now & 2) it wasn't already dead. I get on there during 'vet days' and it's empty and boring. It's hard to even get into a PuG let alone find a working city and guild. Don't get me wrong, I'm another loyalist to pre-cu and just as bitter as the others, but I'm also an avid Star Wars fan.
You said SOE brought some good to SWG recently; what good did they bring? I am not being sarcastic, I just really want to know. I don't do research on the game anymore, not since the last time I tried it earlier this year for a month.
I have a CL 90 Jedi, and a CL 80 pre-NGE toon I haven't touched yet. I don't want to play those again; I'd rather create a new character. One huge thing in my way is the boring leveling system. Long ago, we used to group up and kill things for xp, now we are soloing these insanely boring Legacy Quests. I've already done the legacy quests several times and will not do it again. So unless SOE has somehow changed the game to where leveling with others is better or they created an alternative way to leveling than Legacy quests, I won't return...not even for free.
Also, I won't return if they haven't fixed the Jedi issues players have been complaining about for years, such as a FRS system among several other things. Another thing bugging me is the economy. Try leveling pilot along with your ground levels. It isn't going to happen, because the ships and the parts are priced for those whove been playing for years and have millions of credits. The ability to wear whatever clothes you want as a Jedi through clothing attachments doesn't change anything when the cost for them is only affordable to those with millions. Also, I'm finally happy they added 5th gen sabers, so we can finally use whatever type of saber we want, but they still have special lightsaber crystals which make it unfriendly to players who'd rather use a different colored crystal. They introduced new cloaks, but failed to realize that everyone will have them, so everyone will still look the same still.
These are my gripes with the game...gripes that didn't exist pre-NGE. I don't care anymore if they want a class/level based MMORPG. I just care if the game is fun and is doing the Star Wars name justice. I watch the movies and read the books, then play SWG and think that SWG is terrible. SWG doesn't seam like Star Wars at all, other than the skin.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
Suvroc have you thought of giving Vanguard a try ?
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
Favourite Game
SWG - Sabanak, Retired Jedi, Bria
Playing: Nothing
Waiting for: SWG Pre-CU
Retired: SWG, CoX, Vanguard, MxO, Guildwars, Archlord, Auto Assault, EQ2, Final Fantasy XI,
Lineage 2, Saga of Ryzom, DAOC, WoW, AOC, WAR
OK, I'm game. I just did a vet trial in May, but quit due to the ungodly amount of game crashes I had and the lack of players to group with. I see that I now have another vet trial available. A few questions first. My old character was a "smugglerish" charatcer with lots of wilderness survial skills, actually more like a ranger. I am now a smuggler on Starsider and yo be frank, it sucks. What class now most resembles the old ranger, spy? Also I enjoy Roleplaying, does this new group on Kettemoor roleplay? Finally, is this Novus/SoK you speak of a guild, player city, or what? I enjoyed SWG even during the CU, but the lack of players will not even really let me give it a fair shake.
-Dailus (aka Cauldahan on SWG)
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
It seems they have a timer to determine if you're eligible for another free trial, based upon how long ago you had a free trial. I suspect that if you were logged in on "pending" status less than 90 days ago the current free trial is not intended for you.
However, come say September or so, if you were in on the previous free vet trial, you'll be eligible for another 30 or so days of free SWG. Because they need to pad those 'active accounts" numbers somehow.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
I resemble that remark and in all honestly hosal has more maturity then half the adults on this board.
Like others many people have tried so many mmorpg's and come running back to swg (yes running..). Like others I await an mmorpg that can top SWG but as of yet nothing has compared to it so I enjoy the game warts and all and quite honestly even with all the changes I find no other game that can hold a candle to it for the type of open gameplay and fun in it.
When someone makes a game as good as that one people will notice it and follow until then this game is doing very well. If people take time to really think about this and look at the changes and revamps and really think about this. There is a large number of players who can easily for lack of a better way to put it admit (me included) that this game is still one of the best on the market if not the best. So IN SPITE of past bumps and turns in the road the game is doing well and is drawing customers back (again myself included). There has to be a reason why people who haven't played for years and may have logged in to try a few times in the past (that's me..) and not stayed are now staying. No its not "blind fanboism" its a population of gamers that enjoys this game for what it is now and not just laments about what happened and is long over.
Thank you,
Really all i'm trying to do is help the community of swg and let vet's know they can come back and trial. It doesn't hurt to see how swg is doing, and maybe you will enjoy it. That's all, thanks for everyones input. Negative, and Positive.
I wasn't talking about your pics I mean the others who post in response with pics, you never know, a screenshot of the account activation date would be more fitting if you wanted to prove most haven't played Pre-CU. There's no doubt in my mind you haven't, as I said different tastes for different people.
Why did all of our posts get deleted and Nikoz remained? He was flaming US...nice moderation here MMORPG.com, it reminds me of the SOE SWG boards for the past 3 years... Delete what you don't want to hear and ban those who don't say what you want them to say.
Ridiculous.
Tecmo Bowl.
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
It seems they have a timer to determine if you're eligible for another free trial, based upon how long ago you had a free trial. I suspect that if you were logged in on "pending" status less than 90 days ago the current free trial is not intended for you.
However, come say September or so, if you were in on the previous free vet trial, you'll be eligible for another 30 or so days of free SWG. Because they need to pad those 'active accounts" numbers somehow.
Either way, once I get back home from Toronto, I'm gonna go resub and join kettemoor. If there is indeed some vets to play with and good group of peeps to be with online it should make the game more fun. I have vanguard and eq2, but both of those games werent as much fun as swg was, obviously!
Who should I speak with when I get on kettemoor which prolly wont be until july 5?
Favourite Game
SWG - Sabanak, Retired Jedi, Bria
Playing: Nothing
Waiting for: SWG Pre-CU
Retired: SWG, CoX, Vanguard, MxO, Guildwars, Archlord, Auto Assault, EQ2, Final Fantasy XI,
Lineage 2, Saga of Ryzom, DAOC, WoW, AOC, WAR
What's this our about? Do you label yourself the poster child of SWG vets or what? Hate to break it to you but you are not. If it makes you feel more important in this world though more power to ya.
Maybe I had an epiphany I don't know but this hatred is madness, let the damn current subscribers play the game without lecturing them on a daily bases. It's over and done with cry to your massive collection of Star Wars memorabilia and just wait to see what Bioware pans out. Pretty sure by now it is a proven fact that NGE rage shaves years of your life, is it worth it?
i take a look at my account and i see that Vanguard and EQ2 are activated with free trials. But not SWG. I am definitely a vet of SWG. Have they activated everyone that can play now or do i have to reactivate it myself?
It seems they have a timer to determine if you're eligible for another free trial, based upon how long ago you had a free trial. I suspect that if you were logged in on "pending" status less than 90 days ago the current free trial is not intended for you.
However, come say September or so, if you were in on the previous free vet trial, you'll be eligible for another 30 or so days of free SWG. Because they need to pad those 'active accounts" numbers somehow.
Either way, once I get back home from Toronto, I'm gonna go resub and join kettemoor. If there is indeed some vets to play with and good group of peeps to be with online it should make the game more fun. I have vanguard and eq2, but both of those games werent as much fun as swg was, obviously!
Who should I speak with when I get on kettemoor which prolly wont be until july 5?
You can get in contact with me on Hosal Amaris, or any other character with the Novus guild tag. Which is pretty much anyone and everyone, all vets and or people that have left their server and started a new toon on kett!
I had a two year sub in SWG, and i have never done a free trial and it says 15 days non recurring on my account.
Is that the free time i get? its not a month.
-Jive
Yeah, that means you have a 15 day free vet trial available. Be warned though, it is still overpriced...
What's this our about? Do you label yourself the poster child of SWG vets or what? Hate to break it to you but you are not. If it makes you feel more important in this world though more power to ya.
Maybe I had an epiphany I don't know but this hatred is madness, let the damn current subscribers play the game without lecturing them on a daily bases. It's over and done with cry to your massive collection of Star Wars memorabilia and just wait to see what Bioware pans out. Pretty sure by now it is a proven fact that NGE rage shaves years of your life, is it worth it?
Dude, did I metion YOU in my post? Nope, I did not. So why don't you take your little sarcasm and place it where someone will bother to care. If I didn't mention YOU, and YOUR post did not get deleted, then why interject your pointless rambling into my posts?
Once more, I did not mention YOU in particular, therefore it is reasonably deducted I did not include YOU or anything related to YOU in my post.
Tecmo Bowl.
What's this our about? Do you label yourself the poster child of SWG vets or what? Hate to break it to you but you are not. If it makes you feel more important in this world though more power to ya.
Maybe I had an epiphany I don't know but this hatred is madness, let the damn current subscribers play the game without lecturing them on a daily bases. It's over and done with cry to your massive collection of Star Wars memorabilia and just wait to see what Bioware pans out. Pretty sure by now it is a proven fact that NGE rage shaves years of your life, is it worth it?
so your okay with people playing a game developed from STOLEN money ? I'll never be okay with what SOE did to SWG.
This game's survival is a threat to the entire industry. If SWG lives on, other devs might decide its okay to scrap a player's work. That would lead to a breakdown of the entire genre.
Why invest the time to play MMO's if they can change the game mechanics on a whim ?
sorry but it wasnt stolen money...the money you paid was for time following the payment....so at most you lost half of the month of November ....tops......
not even close....
The NGE took 6+ months to develop in secret. Thats 6 months of paying devs with my subscription fees to make a new game behind our backs. My subscription fees are supposed to pay for fixing bugs and adding content for the game Im playing. Its not meant for the developer to use in any other way. This is why we pay a monthly fee folks.
The expansion was sold to us without informing us that in 2 weeks the game would be completely changed. For me, thats two copies $60 down the drain.
Finally, SOE wouldnt refund our money for prepaid accounts. I had 8 months left on two accounts for Star Wars Galaxies. SOE threw my game in the trash then expected me to be happy to have paid for a new product. We deserved a refund. I didnt buy a quasi-fps beta stage game.
200,000 players didnt just quit for no reason. They objected to the outright stealing and lying SOE did.
To quote Dylan Thomas, "we will not go gently into that good night"
so you paid 6 months and never logged in prior to the nge? no...you were playing the game during the 6 months which you paid the 15 bucks per a month?
The real question he is trying to outline is would all of the SWG Pre-CU/CU vets STILL subbed knowing that the NGE was being developed for 6 months?
As a SUBSCRIBING customer to an ongoing sandbox game in which you have houses, belongings, skills, and hundreds of hours of gametime, DESERVE to know that the game was secretly being changed in 6 months to the degree it would no longer be the same game?
Did the PAYING customers deserve to know that the game would not exist in November of 2005? I believe they did deserve to know, and there is a BIG reason they weren't told -- Subscription money.
It's that simple. SOE/LA used that money to code a new game instead of fix the existing game.
So it was a LOT more than half a month of subscription money they essentially stole from the customers.
SOE knew full well that if they told us about the NGE when they began coding it that most of us would quit that month, so they kept it a secret. Doesn't take much intelligence to figure that one out.
Tecmo Bowl.
Bingo.
Had SOE told us "hey gang we've decided to revamp the entire game" we likely would have quit immediately. So instead SOE decided to lie to us for the 6 months+ the NGE was being worked on to keep us paying.
Whenever a jedi player would ask "hey when is FRS coming back ?" the reply wasnt "never" it was "soon" This clearly was done to keep taking our money.
If the 200,000 had prior warning and quit, SOE would have had to pay the NGE costs out of their own pockets. So Smedly decides why not lie and get the players to pay for the new game. And a couple of years later Smedly thinks a flimsy apology will make things all better lol ??? The only thing Smedly was sorry for was that his sleazly ploy didnt get the wow numbers he predicted. He certainly wasnt sorry for screwing over the players and stealing our money.
And make no mistake, SOE admitted publicly they knew the majority of players would quit over the NGE. Therefore keeping the NGE a secret was clearly an act of THEFT.
How can the current players justify playing this game ? Or a better question, why would you trust them not to do it again ???