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How many players in Tabula Rasa
Kalles
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As far as MMORPG's go, few producers provide exact numbers. There are exceptions in the case of very successful games, i.e. Any game producers with over a million subscribers like to brag about it. But games that aren't doing so well, like TR, won't be publishing their ever-shrinking population numbers because it might scare off new potential players who don't want to invest time and money in a dying game.
^^ true... but i hoped that someone know that... I am also new/potential player
I only play the pegassus server and it it always pretty full. Lots of people running around. As for the other servers I have no idea, only what i see on the server load screen .( normally on med. load)
I play on all the servers and I see people all around the maps, one thing was needed though is a better way to get into groups, and they finaly got that going in test server now so that's cool.
I would geuss about 100,000 subs. and going on the up swing, sinve the low swing has gone past now it seems.
According to MMOGChart.com TR is lucky to claim even 75k subs. Frankly, I've never found MMOGChart.com to be that far off the mark. I have no idea why people here give that guy so much shit. He doesn't pull his numbers out of thin air.
It's important to keep in mind that TR has done so poorly, both in terms of boxes sold and active subscriptions, that NCSoft didn't even bother to mention the product once in their last fiscal report to shareholders.
I'd have to agree with MMOGCharts too. The guy is very smart, taking different sales numbers, and word-of-mouth popularity combined with actual company statements and gets a very close estimate of subs. TR was last done around March 08, at 75k subs. I'd say it's going down moderately, but surely (probably around 50-60k subs).
If they got LFG and PUG-forming sorted out, I'd be back there like a shot.
Like CoX, TR doesn't have much going for it apart from the combat, but, like CoX, the combat is really, really good, and particularly good fun in groups. But I think the devs had some bizarre idea that all grouping would be Guild based, and I think they really missed a trick early on not making TR as PUG-friendly as CoX.
TR is an ideal PUGging combat MMO.
If they got LFG and PUG-forming sorted out, I'd be back there like a shot.
Like CoX, TR doesn't have much going for it apart from the combat, but, like CoX, the combat is really, really good, and particularly good fun in groups. But I think the devs had some bizarre idea that all grouping would be Guild based, and I think they really missed a trick early on not making TR as PUG-friendly as CoX.
TR is an ideal PUGging combat MMO.
Guru, I agree. I finally purchased the game, and I am having a great deal of fun with it, but I came back to the game with 3 others, so we always have a group. Id hate to try it solo.
A good PUG system like CoH would actually make this game immensely more enjoyable. I know there is some changes to the LFG system in Deployment 10 coming out soon.
Yeah this game is weird, although you can solo most of it, I wouldn't play alone, I always play with a friend or PUG.
You're asking the fanbios what the populations are?
Try this, take the average estimate they all provide for you, then divide that by 10. That is most likely the ACTUAL population of Tabula Rasa. I played the game 4 months ago and it was dead and dying at a fast pace.
I would be shocked if it had 50K subs even then.
So he should expect someone who hasnt played in 4 months to have an accurate idea?
NCSoft publishes its sub numbers every quarter.
Here is the report.
financial reports for the Q1 performance of NCSoft
The problem with TR appears that it is so low and weak in sales, they didn't bother to list the sub numbers. Its sales are pathetic.
Umm...hmm...Tabula Rasa's population...it had a population? It even got to last this long? Jeez NCsoft just dosen't want to end this game. Hell, Guildwars makes more money then TR does in subs
It's hard to say what NC's long term plans for TR will be but it's pretty certain based on some of the interviews over the last 6 months, NC Korea has chalked this one up as a failure / disappointment.
One thing is for sure, NC isn't afraid to consolidate servers or shut a game down. They are raw business in Korea. To be honest, I'm surprised ol' spaceman Rich and his brother still have jobs.
49.99 retail price?...its a big no no....
i only payed that for Aoc...and...i dont play it...
so...dunno....maybe they should lower that price if they want more players
you can find it for under $10 online and under $20 at most stores
maybe in ur country happyland...
but here they dont sell games in stores...no...i dont live in soviet russia...but is worst....
so...send me the link to a web that sell it online for less than 10 dolars and ill let u touch my sister boob
maybe...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310065505699&category=139973&refid=store
http://www.amazon.com/NCsoft-FG-XP-TR1ST-030-Richard-Garriotts-Tabula/dp/B000SAV6RS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1216173717&sr=8-1
is it digital buy?
i mean...i dont want a store that send stuff to my home...because the cost of transport is like 60 dolars...so i end up paying more...
I have heard of people buying the game off of Ebay and the seller giving you the code by email . Then you can just download the game from the TR website. I have never done it but i have heard of people doing that.
Dunno i play at the EU server and its have always been on medium when i logged in, i always see players and had never found it hard to find groups. I have no clue aboute the other servers though. When ppl here say is dying or dead they havent logged in. The general chat is always talking so no its not low pop , its not high its just medium.
And ppl that not play, its not helping that your spreading false statment that its dead. Im not going to lie and say its high pop and you shouldent say its low when its infact medium.
If I add in the people who yap in chat on a daily basis along with others that I ocassionaly see running around who don't contribute to the crapchatfest [it gets pretty vulgar sometimes] - I'd say there are about 80-100 unique subscribers on Orion server....
Back when I played Tabula Rasa the server populations were ALWAYS low. This was when people were first starting to abandon the game.
Then one day when I tried to log in I had to download a patch. It was a very small patch, must have taken me less than a minute to download and install if I recall correctly. After downloading that patch when I got to the server screen suddenly all the server populations were medium for the first time in weeks!
Did Tabula Rasa suddenly get double the number of players overnight? Or did that patch I downloaded that day simply reduce the number of people required to be online to qualify as "medium" server population? I wouldn't be suprised if the Devs have had to lower the bar several times to maintain their supposedly "medium" population...
As for the general chat, it was always pretty active when I played. But from what I recall the discussions which took place in general chat were the punch line of every Tabula Rasa joke ever told. Most people used the general chat to argue about penis size, make racist remarks or just spam random non-sense. I remember one night when myself and another member of my guild were so bored out of our minds (because there was NOTHING to do in Tabula Rasa) that we just sat and watched the general chat spam for hours. Some other guild called "Black people do work" was trolling the chat for something like 3+ hours that night. They got banned eventually, but they were all trial accounts anyway so they probably didn't care. That was also the same night a lot of people discovered they didn't get the black armor dye that NCsoft had promised to people who helped out on the test server, so there was a lot of spamming going on about that too. One troll managed to start a huge debate about if wearing black armor made you an emo or not just by saying "Black=EMO!" over and over...
I think the evidence speaks for itself. The links people posted in this thread to MMOG charts and the NCsoft quarterly report pretty much say it all. I perticularly liked the "Earnings Hihglights" section where they had a bunch of pie charts. One chart showed Tabula Rasa with only 2% of the total pie! This was compared to Guild Wars with 12%, City of Heroes with 7% and almost the enitre rest of the pie consumed by Lineage and Lineage II. The only part of the pie smaller than Tabula Rasa was "other" with 1%. I'm not even sure what "other" would be in this case. Maybe their free games like Exteel and Dungeon Runners? If thats true, then Tabula Rasa is only 1% better than games which don't even earn any money!
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Back when I played Tabula Rasa the server populations were ALWAYS low. This was when people were first starting to abandon the game.
Then one day when I tried to log in I had to download a patch. It was a very small patch, must have taken me less than a minute to download and install if I recall correctly. After downloading that patch when I got to the server screen suddenly all the server populations were medium for the first time in weeks!
Did Tabula Rasa suddenly get double the number of players overnight? Or did that patch I downloaded that day simply reduce the number of people required to be online to qualify as "medium" server population? I wouldn't be suprised if the Devs have had to lower the bar several times to maintain their supposedly "medium" population...
As for the general chat, it was always pretty active when I played. But from what I recall the discussions which took place in general chat were the punch line of every Tabula Rasa joke ever told. Most people used the general chat to argue about penis size, make racist remarks or just spam random non-sense. I remember one night when myself and another member of my guild were so bored out of our minds (because there was NOTHING to do in Tabula Rasa) that we just sat and watched the general chat spam for hours. Some other guild called "Black people do work" was trolling the chat for something like 3+ hours that night. They got banned eventually, but they were all trial accounts anyway so they probably didn't care. That was also the same night a lot of people discovered they didn't get the black armor dye that NCsoft had promised to people who helped out on the test server, so there was a lot of spamming going on about that too. One troll managed to start a huge debate about if wearing black armor made you an emo or not just by saying "Black=EMO!" over and over...
I think the evidence speaks for itself. The links people posted in this thread to MMOG charts and the NCsoft quarterly report pretty much say it all. I perticularly liked the "Earnings Hihglights" section where they had a bunch of pie charts. One chart showed Tabula Rasa with only 2% of the total pie! This was compared to Guild Wars with 12%, City of Heroes with 7% and almost the enitre rest of the pie consumed by Lineage and Lineage II. The only part of the pie smaller than Tabula Rasa was "other" with 1%. I'm not even sure what "other" would be in this case. Maybe their free games like Exteel and Dungeon Runners? If thats true, then Tabula Rasa is only 1% better than games which don't even earn any money!
While I see where you come from with this, I don't think Destination's devs needed to create a "patch" to change the server load readout, this could have easily been done server side.To put it bluntly I reject the conspiracy theory
Annual earnings? quaterly?Profit?Revenue?Revenue per account?Revenue from projection?Net earnings?Gross income?1% of nothing?1% of the biggest mmo publisher?
Please don't stare at pies, just eat them!
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/51312
"The November release of Richard Garriott's Tabula Rasa (PC) recorded $5.4 million in sales, representing only 6% of total earnings for the calendar year."
This article is not even clear picking up facts here and there and gluing them together.Total sales of what?Retail box?To distirbutors?End point sales projections?Including monthly payments?Time cards?
Unless you're a market analyst with data in hand, the only thing we could do is pick up "Internet" blogs, post and news from confirmed/unconfirmed sources, tidbits or translated lines from website that don't even need to validate the information at hand, and then make our forum headline or quote and bash or praise a product that doesn't even get us earnings nor appreciation...
I don't have any numbers to go by . All I have, and all i need is the fact i see lots of people running around and have never had a single problem finding a team. So i dont have an exact number , but what ever the number is it is enough for me